I'm also finding this phone not very suited to simple arcade gaming. A joystick is mandatory. You normally use your two thumbs for left & right,(e.g. 4 & 6 key) so which finger you press the fire button (5 key)?.

I gather in other forums this model is "most complained about" by critical owners
Here's my list of complaints and possible bugs. These are entirely from my own observation, NOT copied from other discussion.

1. No joystick and not suited to the simplest of arcade games. Perhaps priorty to cellphone functionality than entertainment.
2. M2 card used in other SE phone can be unrecognized and asked to format. Cannot be the card..it works flawlessly in the K810i and card reader. Format with card reader and then put back in phone, again it'll be unrecognized.
3. No time & date stamp in camera settings.
4. Camera flash can accidently covered by fingers, resulting in dark pictures. Best to hold the phone with only finger and thumb on both sides whilst taking picture, ALWAYS AWARE that finger MUST be away from the flash light in front.
5. Keybad buttons and D-pad Ring seem clicky and harder to press, even harder than Logitech mouse. A joystick is more suitable. The Navigation ring is a STUPID implementation. A Joystick would have been God sent.
6. Keyboard seems to sit on a hollow layer, can see it being depressed when numerical keys are pressed.
7. USB cable to SEUS update for this phone can be problematic. The USB Flash drivers may not be automatically detected and installed, file transfer mode is invoked instead and SEUS will not proceed. Not as straightforward as lower model SE phones. Some detection flaw here. (have not tried in Vista yet, but in XP, the problem is apparent)
8. The File Manager utility is moved into Organizer category. It should be on the main menu. The PlayNow should NOT be on the main menu.
9. Still no extended keypad lock options, such as time.
10. Keypad lock should not be one of the sensor buttons, should be a hardware button.
11. Video files have evidence of lip-synch problems during playback.

This post has been edited by bsl555: Apr 19 2008, 11:43 PM

It's a personal favor on how the phone works and just that it doesn't suit others the way it does to many others. Well, everything can be fixed with the firmware probbie and just like vista, it's gonna win loads of people in the end =3 *cheers*

may i noe how u guys check the firmware?

Menu -> Settings -> Update service -> Software version

Menu/General/UpdateService/Software Version late

urs is AP? mind to tell what version inside ur phone?

This post has been edited by iRonTech: Apr 19 2008, 07:36 PM

What cant play games?

Crap.

I said not suited, not can't play. I repeat, its more for phone functionality. Can't have everything but its natural to expect a lot for this kind of money.

Damn,i'll miss playing games on phone.

Now i only realise that this phone's button is not suitable for games.

I'm no gamer nor a fan of any games, but I know a joystick is best for responsive maneuvering with only the thumb. The somewhat hard to press and clicky D-ring is a blatant disadvantage even in the simplest of arcade games as I've found out. I need 3 hands to go through Round 1. How to play?...excellent question!

Anyway, I'm going to pass it off to my son in due course..I'm getting very dissillusioned with this model!, but what else to change ah?..The truth is there's no other phone with similar features at the same price point. I should have listened to a phone freako friend!..he already told me twice..DON'T bother buying this phone!

This post has been edited by bsl555: Apr 19 2008, 11:14 PM

but the main problem is joystick tends to wear out quite fast, especially if game alot. that's why new SE phones are joystick-less.

the only problem so far with K850i is the touch sensor buttons. one of my friend's one was faulty even though the phone is barely 1 month old.

This post has been edited by teikwing: Apr 19 2008, 11:17 PM

Eh?.. so many K series current and past are with joysticks..K800 and k810 are still current aren't they?..and its actually quite good I'd say. 3 members of my family are now SE phone owners, which include those two mentioned. Anyway, as long as its bug free, user friendly and can last up to 3 years trouble free, I'm quite happy. Compared to my previous Nok 6600, THAT WAS PAIN in A*s by comparison.

i dun think k810 n k800 is consider new coz been in the market for quite a time... for new 1, i think k660 is consider new...

yeah, that was the old batch. take a look at K850i, G900, G700, C902 etc. all are joystick-less. there are just numerous complaints of faulty joystick on K800i. anyway, as long as its long-lasting its good enough. like what you said.

There exist a list of phones from launch to cease production dates. Until those models mentioned have officially ceased production on the proposed dates, they're technically still current models.
Point is, I wish this K850i had a joystick. Life would be more bearable.

any infos on the Manual Settings on the camera driver? thx!


anyway k850i-AP SET-RM1150-LUMINOUS GREEN AND VELVET BLUE

No mods, no user defined settings. Only those offered in the settings menu. No user defined ISO settings if you're asking. It can be 20mpixels and yet it'll still be compromised in comparison to a real digicam.

Congrats to you and for actually buying 2 sets

What did your friend say about this phone?Is it that bad?

If not,i have to get n73 which i heard is even worse.

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Added on April 20, 2008, 10:24 amYeah,the joystick suxs.My brother's phone joystick start having problem after he use it for 6 months.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 20 2008, 10:24 AM

Never thought K850 got so many problems. Generally, I don't like the keys either.

Uhh, what problems?