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post Apr 13 2008, 08:44 PM, updated 17y ago

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Cisco CCNA, Do you think you can get certified easily? Many students or working adults can get certified easily by only in one week!!! Just study the Pass4sure. Exam is easy to pass if you memorized all.

Did you all agree? If you get certified in this way, will you proud of it?

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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 13 2008, 08:44 PM)
Cisco CCNA, Do you think you can get certified easily? Many students or working adults can get certified easily by only in one week!!! Just study the Pass4sure. Exam is easy to pass if you memorized all.

Did you all agree? If you get certified in this way, will you proud of it?
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If i not mistaken, this certificate is just like an basic skill certified from CISCO only. Easy or not i'm still don't know yet because i haven't study before. But for sure if you own this certificate is better than own nothing. whistling.gif Correct me if i'm wrong!
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 13 2008, 08:44 PM)
Cisco CCNA, Do you think you can get certified easily? Many students or working adults can get certified easily by only in one week!!! Just study the Pass4sure. Exam is easy to pass if you memorized all.

Did you all agree? If you get certified in this way, will you proud of it?
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Agree. Not that diff to pass it. You want to give a try ? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 09:07 PM

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referring to the topic, yes - i do think, and i think most will agree with me; that CCNA is a rather easy test to score should one study it using pass4sure.

i'm a ccna holder. got it late last year.

and no, i didn't use pass4sure. altho it sickens me to know that there's a lot of people who uses pass4sure, i also do realize that 100 USD is alot of money for some.

just make sure you can back ur CCNA cert with the real thing afterwards. The cert is just a ticket anyway. It's ur exp that counts.
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post Apr 13 2008, 09:26 PM

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Yes, the experienced that make the different. It just a ticket only ma. If you are in the following situation:

Situation:

Person A (CCNA certified with Pass4Sure) --------------------- Person B (CCNA certified with hardwork) cool.gif

Both been offered with the same salary (RM2000) in a particular company, if you are Person B, what will you feel? and both you are about to work together for a project.

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post Apr 14 2008, 12:36 AM

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i'll just do my job and show the boss that i really know what um doing e.g - explain to the boss in detail what got done. boss will see u r more competent, later u'll get a raise/promotion.

exp will speak for itself.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:03 AM

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well.. CCNA has been pretty common certification nowadays...

and it pretty much a must have for every Network Engineer working on IP Based Networks.

It depends on the individual... Pass 4 sure or Prometric - Cisco Exam Centre..

I myself sat for the exam twice before i could pass.

As long as u know the basics and ur role.. it doesnt matter whether u got it via pass 4 sure..

However due to this mass production of CCNA Certs... the value has now been detoriated terribly... and a person with CCNA is no longer considered Special..

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post Apr 15 2008, 10:43 AM

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true..but they do give extra allowance to those who hold the cert. at least THAT can cover ur CCNA exam fee. hahaa smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 05:21 PM

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Depends on Companies and organizations...

nowadays ... helpdesk position just to do ping ...traceroute.. also post in the job requirement need CCNA...
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post Apr 15 2008, 05:51 PM

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in my opinion, better go for local system integrator if you really want to be in networking field.

get exposed in various implementations, get to know various types of devices from different vendors. later can do freelance.

now that..is really putting ur CCNA to gud use.
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post Apr 15 2008, 06:52 PM

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I personally think that CCNA is not an easy exam, unless you make it all the way via pass4sure.
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post Apr 15 2008, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(sunnysitsit @ Apr 15 2008, 06:52 PM)
I personally think that CCNA is not an easy exam, unless you make it all the way via pass4sure.
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The latest CCNA 640-802 module is more challenging, it include the wireless technology and network securities
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The have a new syllabus for CCNA now i think.

Failed mine twice before passing a third time. sad.gif

At least putting it to good use working for a vendor. Thinking of getting something else other that Cisco certs now , maybe F5 , either GTM or LTM since i'm doing both mostly now.

At least can get 700 allowance quarterly hohoho.

No need to get so riled up about braindumps , the working world will separate the genuine article from the rest.
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post Apr 15 2008, 08:28 PM

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Hmm what is pass4sure ?

I saw there's a lot of sample there. Is it some kinda like random question from real CCNA paper test ?

How true that we can 100% pass for that ? unsure.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:13 PM

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as the name implies..pass4sure.

ur gonna "pass4sure" lah.
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(ikanez @ Apr 15 2008, 10:43 AM)
true..but they do give extra allowance to those who hold the cert. at least THAT can cover ur CCNA exam fee. hahaa smile.gif
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Yes,i it is true. i went for an interview, i have Rm200 more than the basic!!! Rm200 give only u really can answer the interview question on networking. If not, "habuk" pu tak de. They din even see ur CCNA certified cert.!!!


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QUOTE(howeijie @ Apr 15 2008, 07:31 PM)
The latest CCNA 640-802 module is more challenging, it include the wireless technology and network securities
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I am old syllabus student. For me, i am engineering background. Where wireless is like kacang putih. If you not, you really have to spend more time on it. The basic wireless is easy, if you come to the analytical part, you will !@#@@#....haha


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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 15 2008, 08:28 PM)
Hmm what is pass4sure ?

I saw there's a lot of sample there. Is it some kinda like random question from real CCNA paper test ?

How true that we can 100% pass for that ? unsure.gif
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Yes!! Just search in Internet for the name Pass4Sure with free download. You will pass it. Hahaha.


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QUOTE(MoneyChaser @ Apr 15 2008, 09:03 AM)
well.. CCNA has been pretty common certification nowadays...

and it pretty much a must have for every Network Engineer working on IP Based  Networks.

It depends on the individual... Pass 4 sure or Prometric - Cisco Exam Centre..

I myself sat for the exam twice before i could pass.

As long as u know the basics and ur role.. it doesnt matter whether u got it via pass 4 sure..

However due to this mass production of CCNA Certs... the value has now been detoriated terribly... and a person with CCNA is no longer considered Special..
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YES. 5 more years later. CCNA is not a special cert anymore!!! EVERYBODY can have it!!! Then the time is up to the employee to choose the right candidate for the job.

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:17 AM

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Hmm how much is the full version ?

I think nothing such as pass for sure lol ... at least u need to put ur afford to study n memorize it.

Is it some kind of real question and answer for CCNA ?
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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 16 2008, 11:17 AM)
Hmm how much is the full version ?

I think nothing such as pass for sure lol ... at least u need to put ur afford to study n memorize it.

Is it some kind of real question and answer for CCNA ?
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YES, of course it is. If you want the PAss4Sure soft copy, I can send you. But is is old syllabus, for new syllabus, always visit Sadikov forum for more info, Sadikov, subforums >> CISCO SYSTEMS.

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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 16 2008, 11:17 AM)
Hmm how much is the full version ?

I think nothing such as pass for sure lol ... at least u need to put ur afford to study n memorize it.

Is it some kind of real question and answer for CCNA ?
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study and memorize it ? isn't that the old way of studying..

shouldn't it be more like.. study and understand it..
so no matter how they twist the questions, you will at least be able to solve it.
apart from that, it might help you in your work..

guess malaysian education made all of us into memorizing freaks.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Apr 16 2008, 01:13 PM)
study and memorize it ? isn't that the old way of studying..

shouldn't it be more like.. study and understand it..
so no matter how they twist the questions, you will at least be able to solve it.
apart from that, it might help you in your work..

guess malaysian education made all of us into memorizing freaks.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 14 2008, 01:26 AM)
Yes, the experienced that make the different. It just a ticket only ma. If you are in the following situation:

Situation:

Person A (CCNA certified with Pass4Sure) --------------------- Person B (CCNA certified with hardwork) cool.gif

Both been offered with the same salary (RM2000) in a particular company, if you are Person B, what will you feel? and both you are about to work together for a project.
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Doesn't matter. If you're really in the same company with another person whereas you're the Person B .. You'll pretty soon see the big difference between you and Person A. Like it or not, a Pass4Sure person will definitely be at a disadvantage. You can't lie on your knowledge. Everyday's work and tasks will be testing you on what you know.

Anyway, CCNA ? .. That's too basic nowadays. It's not really that hard to pass on that exam. Those ends with "P" are the ones that is really challenging.










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QUOTE(Biscuit @ Apr 16 2008, 03:35 PM)
Doesn't matter. If you're really in the same company with another person whereas you're the Person B .. You'll pretty soon see the big difference between you and Person A. Like it or not, a Pass4Sure person will definitely be at a disadvantage. You can't lie on your knowledge. Everyday's work and tasks will be testing you on what you know.

Anyway, CCNA ? .. That's too basic nowadays. It's not really that hard to pass on that exam. Those ends with "P" are the ones that is really challenging.
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Thumbs up...

But some arguments.. well a pass4sure person.. if intelligent..smart.. political person.. can outdo person A..
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Here's what going on in my company. We have around 10 CCNA holders but none of them knows how to configure a darn thing. To make things worse, I'm sure that some of them hasn't touch a Cisco device before. On the other hand, there's another another fella without CCNA certificate and every single Cisco project implementation is handled by him.

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Here's what going on in my company. We have around 10 CCNA holders but none of them knows how to configure a darn thing. To make things worse, I'm sure that some of them hasn't touch a Cisco device before. On the other hand, there's another another fella without CCNA certificate and every single Cisco project implementation is handled by him.


then the salary of those 10 "ccna" holders should really go to the other guys la. what for wana hire ccna guy if can't do any work.
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QUOTE(pkh @ Apr 16 2008, 06:05 PM)
Here's what going on in my company. We have around 10 CCNA holders but none of them knows how to configure a darn thing. To make things worse, I'm sure that some of them hasn't touch a Cisco device before.  On the other hand, there's another another fella without CCNA certificate and every single Cisco project implementation is handled by him.
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yes!! many outsider CCNA certified is lack of practical skill on the real router and switches. Coz they all study onli pass4sure. They hv to learn from the very low.

But for local academy like UM, MMU, TARC. They do have on skill training every semester deal with the router and switches.

MMU is the 3th Cisco Networking Skills Competition Overall Champions. They skillful enough to work in the industry.


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How Much Is Pass4Sure Copy ?


Maybe we all can share to buy one, then all get 100% score biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sentro2020 @ Apr 16 2008, 09:57 PM)
How Much Is Pass4Sure Copy ?
Maybe we all can share to buy one, then all get 100% score biggrin.gif
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It is FREE to download.
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 17 2008, 11:42 AM)
It is FREE to download.
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PM me da link pls, thanks
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QUOTE(adrianocy @ Apr 17 2008, 11:48 AM)
PM me da link pls, thanks
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The what we used is for old syllabus (version 3.0). I believe it not really help for the exam now. I believe now the CCNA is in version 4.0. Meaning the Pass4sure for the new syllabus maybe out or may not. Please follow the Sadikov Forum >> Cisco, to track the NEW Pass4sure v3.1.

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QUOTE(pkh @ Apr 16 2008, 06:05 PM)
Here's what going on in my company. We have around 10 CCNA holders but none of them knows how to configure a darn thing. To make things worse, I'm sure that some of them hasn't touch a Cisco device before.  On the other hand, there's another another fella without CCNA certificate and every single Cisco project implementation is handled by him.
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This is the IMPACT of MASS PRODUCTION of CCNA and PASS 4 SURE..

So much so... CCNA nowadays doesnt add any value....

this is where experience and On Job Training makes the difference...


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QUOTE(MoneyChaser @ Apr 17 2008, 03:04 PM)
This is the IMPACT of MASS PRODUCTION of CCNA and PASS 4 SURE..

So much so... CCNA nowadays doesnt add any value....

this is where experience and On Job Training makes the difference...
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Yes. I 100% agreed. So, the employer must make sure they are choosing the right person. Nowadays, many "fake" certified people in the market.
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Can pm me the link for free download ?

I only managed to find the free trial, meaning the full version have to pay ? unsure.gif


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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 18 2008, 09:25 AM)
Can pm me the link for free download ?

I only managed to find the free trial, meaning the full version have to pay ? unsure.gif
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Yea i have been there for some time ago d biggrin.gif

Anyway, i tried semsim and look thru the tutorial and sample question, heck its damn hard lol. If i take real CCNA, sure failed cry.gif

Those node thing, binary, host count and those maths thingie rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 18 2008, 11:33 PM)
Yea i have been there for some time ago d biggrin.gif

Anyway, i tried semsim and look thru the tutorial and sample question, heck its damn hard lol. If i take real CCNA, sure failed cry.gif

Those node thing, binary, host count and those maths thingie rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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You from which university or you are a working adult?
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Im working adult here smile.gif

I finally found the pass4sure download from the forum ...

May i know if take CCNA exam, is it online test or i have to go for a certain place ? Can refer to some note or binary calculator ?

I not really confident that pass4sure can guarantee pass lolz, cos i dont have much advance knowledge although my interest would major in networking sweat.gif




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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 19 2008, 01:31 PM)
Im working adult here smile.gif

I finally found the pass4sure download from the forum ...

May i know if take CCNA exam, is it online test or i have to go for a certain place ? Can refer to some note or binary calculator ?

I not really confident that pass4sure can guarantee pass lolz, cos i dont have much advance knowledge although my interest would major in networking sweat.gif
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???????????????????????????????????????????????? Your major is networking, you duno binary number? OMG

Yes during the exam is Online Test in one room in a registered center. You are not allow to bring any calculator, all is in handwritten calculation on white paper. This include all the binary calculation for subnetting.

Just try you best, this can make you pass easily. But honestly la, you must have the experience in in the Cisco Real Device, then you only dare to apply job. If no experience in Real, dont go apply job, you sure will not pass the probation period.

My friend with only pass4sure study for one week, then get the cert and now working in petronas. Don't know he can pass his probation period ma, i think mayb kena sack oredi. Because he never experience real device. Go there tipu said I got CCNA, CCNA, certified, certified, i very "Chun"! But actually is no "ko-li" one.


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Pass4sure or testking would be better ?

If I am not mistaken CCNA exam consist 1000 question right ? how much question do Pass4sure contain ?
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1000 marks. not ques.

the question are less than 100. i think it was around 50 ques during my time.

to pass u have get 800 marks above..or something like tht. have to check my cert to see what the real passing mark is.


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QUOTE(ikanez @ Apr 19 2008, 10:19 PM)
1000 marks. not ques.

the question are less than  100. i think it was around 50 ques during my time.

to pass u have get 800 marks above..or something like tht. have to check my cert to see what the real passing mark is.
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The latest CCNA 640-802 need at least 825/1000 in order to pass and get certified.
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QUOTE(lgs @ Apr 19 2008, 06:47 PM)
Pass4sure or testking would be better ?

If I am not mistaken CCNA exam consist 1000 question right ? how much question do Pass4sure contain ?
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50+ questions only. Marks is 1000 points.

I heard UM student in CCNA competition is very good, and they manage to beat the MMU student for the 2008 Skill based competition. Bravo UM!! rclxms.gif

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no ler..the overall is MMU champion ler...UM just get 3rd for the open category and 1st for the degree category...
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 19 2008, 06:14 PM)
???????????????????????????????????????????????? Your major is networking, you duno binary number? OMG

Yes during the exam is Online Test in one room in a registered center.  You are not allow to bring any calculator, all is in handwritten calculation on white paper. This include all the binary calculation for subnetting.

Just try you best, this can make you pass easily. But honestly la, you must have the experience in in the Cisco Real Device, then you only dare to apply job. If no experience in Real, dont go apply job, you sure will not pass the probation period.

My friend with only pass4sure study for one week, then get the cert and now working in petronas. Don't know he can pass his probation period ma, i think mayb kena sack oredi. Because he never experience real device. Go there tipu said I got CCNA, CCNA, certified, certified, i very "Chun"! But actually is no "ko-li" one.
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I wish to have real experience for cisco device too. But how do i get those experience if i dont apply the job lol. Experience comes from job sweat.gif
Unless consider luck if company willing to take network engineer without experience on cisco device laugh.gif


Where do i sit for CCNA test in Malaysia and how much it cost ?


Does pass4sure consist of all question from CCNA or just random ? what we need do in pass4sure is basically MEMORIZE lol rclxms.gif


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my advice for those who wanna get exp on cisco devices is go work for system integrator. be it local or foreign based (local is easier to get into la).

IMO, being in SI really gives you an all rounded view in networking, coz you build the system from ground up. and not really dependent on any one brand. you have cisco, huawei, 3com, aruba and lots more. plus you also get to learn server side too.

the pay of coz la cant compare to working as network support for MNC..but the exp is priceless and you can even go freelance later.
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QUOTE(Hybz @ Apr 20 2008, 10:42 AM)
I wish to have real experience for cisco device too. But how do i get those experience if i dont apply the job lol. Experience comes from job sweat.gif
Unless consider luck if company willing to take network engineer without experience on cisco device laugh.gif
Where do i sit for CCNA test in Malaysia and how much it cost ?
Does pass4sure consist of all question from CCNA or just random ? what we need do in pass4sure is basically MEMORIZE lol rclxms.gif
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Like most of the university, MMU, UM, they do have a local regional academy, where you pay to learn the actual device. Outsider also can pay and join the academy.

Test Center, visit Link >> Click on Locate Test Center >> Search your area.

Cost = Depends on the center. Standard price i think is USD100. IF you join academy, you do have discount.

For old syllabus, yes the question is exactly same as Pass4sure but it is in Random.


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QUOTE(ikanez @ Apr 20 2008, 12:13 PM)
my advice for those who wanna get exp on cisco devices is go work for system integrator. be it local or foreign based (local is easier to get into la).

IMO, being in SI really gives you an all rounded view in networking, coz you build the system from ground up. and not really dependent on any one brand. you have cisco, huawei, 3com, aruba and lots more. plus you also get to learn server side too.

the pay of coz la cant compare to working as network support for MNC..but the exp is priceless and you can even go freelance later.
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What you said is true. Sokong!

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xiao fang ...

u got yr ccna ? where u took oh ? maybe can share share ...

i study for 2 month using pass4sure, but still feel dono anythiz
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 20 2008, 12:49 PM)
Like most of the university, MMU, UM, they do have a local regional academy, where you pay to learn the actual device. Outsider also can pay and join the academy.

Test Center, visit Link >> Click on Locate Test Center >> Search your area.

Cost = Depends on the center. Standard price i think is USD100. IF you join academy, you do have discount.

For old syllabus, yes the question is exactly same as Pass4sure but it is in Random.


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What you said is true. Sokong!
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Cisco certificate have to renew every 3 years? What about MCSE then?

I heard CCNP cert. much better to have at least.
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Cisco is 3 years renewal ... I planning to take CCSP, CCIE Security ... who wanna join ?
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yes i want to take CCSP, any self-study material to share? Hard to find net also.
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The what we used is for old syllabus (version 3.0). I believe it not really help for the exam now. I believe now the CCNA is in version 4.0. Meaning the Pass4sure for the new syllabus maybe out or may not. Please follow the Sadikov Forum >> Cisco, to track the NEW Pass4sure v3.1.
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Xing Fang,

You've just contributed another 10% to the networking industry by ensuring more people passes with pass4sure. Don't give them the link. At least if they study testking, it would've been a better way to learn compared to pass4sure. Some people are just born to be losers which is why they would only study the pass4sure and ignore the basic principles of understanding the course.
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Xing Fang,

You've just contributed another 10% to the networking industry by ensuring more people passes with pass4sure. Don't give them the link. At least if they study testking, it would've been a better way to learn compared to pass4sure. Some people are just born to be losers which is why they would only study the pass4sure and ignore the basic principles of understanding the course.
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Can i know how many total question and paper for ccna test ? Is it all objective question ?

I have very basic networking skills ... how long do i need study estimately ?


of cos im not 101% depending on memorize from p4s, but also need to study and understand the theory ...

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Can i know how many total question and paper for ccna test ? Is it all objective question ?

I have very basic networking skills ... how long do i need study estimately ?
of cos im not 101% depending on memorize from p4s, but also need to study and understand the theory ...
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About CCNA -> hXXp://www.cisco.com.ru/web/learning/le3/current_exams/640-802.html
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lab practise ?

How does the exam actually ? Is it all objective ?


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lab practise ?

How does the exam actually ? Is it all objective ?
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In MMU, the CCNA course is about 2 years. Not like some university is only 2 weeks!!! Then get certified with only Pass4Sure. That why MMU always the Cisco competition champions!

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Lab simulation is what lai de ?
as long as no write essay like subjective question in SPM , then ok lorhz
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Lab simulation is what lai de ?
as long as no write essay like subjective question in SPM , then ok lorhz
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 23 2008, 06:27 PM)
In MMU, the CCNA course is about 2 years. Not like some university is only 2 weeks!!! Then get certified with only Pass4Sure. That why MMU always the Cisco competition champions!
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I study in UM, my faculty also provide full time training course on CCNA for 2 semester,
then basic CCNP course ( network design and network management ) for another 2 semester,
so total is 2 years of duration learning CISCO networking. smile.gif


Those 2 weeks CCNA course is sponsor by MOHE under 3P Prestariang Systems Sdn Bhd to produce bunch of "fake" CCNA holder. Even those student from non-IT background also can pass. shakehead.gif

That is why now day hard to differentiate who is real CCNA , who is fake CCNA.
But once goes to hands on practice or troubleshooting Cisco Router and Switches, the winner is out there !!!
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 PM)
Lab simulation is for the beginner to "play" one, cheap training if compare to actual device.
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A 1760 series Router already cost Rm 2k-3k, another 2900 series Switch already cost Rm 4k-5k.

It is very expensive if wanna do self study and practice on CCNA 640-802.

The current Packet Tracer 4.1 is good enough to practice CCNA 640-802.

Other like Router Sim or those open source simulator are good enough for practise
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rclxms.gif for UM


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QUOTE(howeijie @ Apr 23 2008, 11:57 PM)
I study in UM,  my faculty also provide full time training course on CCNA for  2 semester,
then basic CCNP course ( network design and network management ) for another 2 semester,
so total is 2 years of duration learning CISCO networking.  smile.gif
Those 2 weeks CCNA course is sponsor by MOHE under  3P Prestariang Systems Sdn Bhd to produce bunch of "fake" CCNA holder. Even those student from non-IT background also can pass.  shakehead.gif

That is why now day hard to differentiate who is real CCNA , who is fake CCNA.
But once goes to hands on practice or troubleshooting Cisco Router and Switches, the winner is out there !!!
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That why the company like 3P really ahhh!$$%^$^%$&...............

I yesterday asking a UM frenz about her CCNA, and she even cannot remember the name of the Cisco course she taking? errmmm...........CNNA...CCCA...CAAA..... or cppp a? Correct a? cry.gif

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Lab simulation is for the beginner to "play" one, cheap training if compare to actual device.
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Does that mean ccna got 2 paper ?

1st is objective circle n choose corect choice. how many Q ?

2nd is simulation . is that mean we go to networking lab and do some sort presentation like cabling to the teacher ?



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Did anybody obtain the CCNP oredi? With onli Pass4sure? Just want to know who out there get........
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ Apr 23 2008, 06:27 PM)
In MMU, the CCNA course is about 2 years. Not like some university is only 2 weeks!!! Then get certified with only Pass4Sure. That why MMU always the Cisco competition champions!
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Cisco Competition Champions? What is that about and who are the participants? I would like to challenge MMU student on this. biggrin.gif
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Heard from Sadikhov there are giving 2nd shot for CCNA paper. ISsit true ?
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Cisco Competition Champions? What is that about and who are the participants? I would like to challenge MMU student on this. biggrin.gif
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Malaysia Cisco Networking Skills Competition (MCNSC)
Open Category = Outsider and Private + Local University may enter.
Degree Category = Only Private + Local University may enter
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Link>> MMU Cisco Academy Achievement (多煤体大学-思科区域学院)

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I got CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP ... few years ago
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Wahh! you damn pro!! How about ur job now? Wat you working in?
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not pro lah ... if I show you all my certs ... you will "Fang" ... now my job nothing to do with Cisco ...
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Fang? What you trying to tell? With Cisco things a? in where ma? Datacraft? DGB? ... or..........
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I now self study on the CCNP BSCI, any material to share?
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no oh ... I done my CCNP few years ago ... now thinking to take CCSP and CCIE Security
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How you do ur hand-ons on the CCNP's lab?
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bought 2nd-hand Cisco routers/switches and setup at home
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OOO, u brought in Lowyat 2nd hand shop?

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I just saw from cbt nugget thats we can't take ccna if we dont have existing ccna.

Must take ICND1(CCENT), wait 3 years then take ICND2(CCNA), then only i'll get my CCNA ... sweat.gif

Is that true ? Thats very time consuming lol ...

anyone can clarify this ?
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I just saw from cbt nugget thats we can't take ccna if we dont have existing ccna.

Must take ICND1(CCENT), wait 3 years then take ICND2(CCNA), then only i'll get my CCNA ... sweat.gif

Is that true ? Thats very time consuming lol ...

anyone can clarify this ?
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What you read is old syllabus structure, it have been phase-out. Follow the new structure. For any cases, no need to wait, if you are ready, just go for the exam in the exam center. Just to clarify the new name for new syllabus is CCNA Exploration

New syllabus:

CCNA Exploration (Contains: CCNA 1 to CCNA 4 = "INCD1 + INCD2") >> Link

CCNA Discovery (Just a preparation course for CCNA - Ignored this cert if you are able to absorb the syallbus in CCNA Exploration) >> Link
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OOO, u brought in Lowyat 2nd hand shop?
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So do i still need to sit for 2 exam ? Meaning CCENT and CCNA ...

If can straight go for CCNA, my target is by this year im gonna grab the cert laugh.gif
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why so troublesome to take CCNA now ... just an entry level only
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why so troublesome to take CCNA now ... just an entry level only
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then what else should i take lol ...

for cisco n networking, i think ccna is the most basic
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then what else should i take lol ...

for cisco n networking, i think ccna is the most basic
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Just take the CCNA 1st, other thigns belakang kira. thumbup.gif
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Hmm, I got my CCNA cert back in mid-2006. Wasnt that hard la actually. I graduated in 2005 with a degree in programming, so my knowledge in networking was near to none. But then I got a book which is easy to comprehend so that makes things alot easier. Overall, I think its the choice of book that you choose to read that make a difference. For my case I was using a book from sybex. I've read the CiscoPress book and I felt the sybex was better. And no I didnt use P4S for ccna.

About current CCNA syllabus structure, I got no idea. But from what I heard, its been broken into 2 smaller components, and there's a new cert thats even lower than CCNA, CCENT laugh.gif Havent take any cisco exams after I've got my ccvp mid last year. CCIE is definitely my next target in the next few years to come. But there's so many fields to specialize in and I havent a clue which is the best path. Furthermore the lab exam fees are kinda steep. Gotta save some money before I can even dream of the exam blush.gif
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Hmm, I got my CCNA cert back in mid-2006. Wasnt that hard la actually. I graduated in 2005 with a degree in programming, so my knowledge in networking was near to none. But then I got a book which is easy to comprehend so that makes things alot easier. Overall, I think its the choice of book that you choose to read that make a difference. For my case I was using a book from sybex. I've read the CiscoPress book and I felt the sybex was better. And no I didnt use P4S for ccna.

About current CCNA syllabus structure, I got no idea. But from what I heard, its been broken into 2 smaller components, and there's a new cert thats even lower than CCNA, CCENT laugh.gif Havent take any cisco exams after I've got my ccvp mid last year. CCIE is definitely my next target in the next few years to come. But there's so many fields to specialize in and I havent a clue which is the best path. Furthermore the lab exam fees are kinda steep. Gotta save some money before I can even dream of the exam blush.gif
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恭喜你!!
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So how's your progress? Whats the most recent exam you've taken? Or are you an IE already? blush.gif
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So how's your progress? Whats the most recent exam you've taken? Or are you an IE already? blush.gif
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I have both CCNA and CCNP. Will think for CCIE once Malaysia has the test center. Don't want to travel to HK or China for exam.
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y?
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at least not so soon ... the installation base here still not large as compare to Asian countries ... China within 2-3 years already eligible to setup CCIE lab exams


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at least not so soon ... the installation base here still not large as compare to Asian countries ... China within 2-3 years already eligible to setup CCIE lab exams
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anyone know how much market rate for CCNA, CCNP, CCIE cert holder ???
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CCNA i think is extra few hundreds than your basic salary. It just the diff. CCNP i not sure.


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CCNA i think is extra few hundreds than your basic salary. It just the diff. CCNP i not sure.
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So, for my case, i have RM200 extra than the basic.

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How about CCNA cert holder w/o experience? How much can get? I heard from my fren that currently can demand nearly 3k? Is it true?
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How about CCNA cert holder w/o experience? How much can get? I heard from my fren that currently can demand nearly 3k? Is it true?
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i dunno, but i heard got company willing to pay RM4K for fresh grad with CCNA for shift job. Not sure abt the details, but i guess its rare, and do take note, its night shfft job.
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i dunno, but i heard got company willing to pay RM4K for fresh grad with CCNA for shift job. Not sure abt the details, but i guess its rare, and do take note, its night shfft job.
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bored with networking stuffs ... then change something else ... there are so many IT profession ie. compliance, audit, security, project management, business continuity, programming, etc smile.gif
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I'm from programming field and now bored with programming. Looking into networking site. going to take CCNA very soon.

If else a company can offer more then 3k for a CCNA cert holder with networking experience, it will be a good opertunity. 4k for fresh grad? Awesome offer... If i got it, i would rather join the next day...

Night shift is not a big deal since single.. Haha...
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Yes, only shift get 4k, fresh lower 1.2k, higher 2.2k.


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I'm from programming field and now bored with programming. Looking into networking site. going to take CCNA very soon.

If else a company can offer more then 3k for a CCNA cert holder with networking experience, it will be a good opertunity. 4k for fresh grad? Awesome offer... If i got it, i would rather join the next day...

Night shift is not a big deal since single.. Haha...
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Yes, only shift get 4k, fresh lower 1.2k, higher 2.2k.


Added on May 8, 2008, 7:00 pmmany ppl now CCNA oredi, so CCNA is just kacang putih.

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I worked night shift before ... working 4 nights ... off 4 days ... damn relax

now night shift offers 4k ... damn good lah ... any company or just some ... which company anyway
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QUOTE(clngu @ May 8 2008, 07:07 PM)
I worked night shift before ... working 4 nights ... off 4 days ... damn relax

now night shift offers 4k ... damn good lah ... any company or just some ... which company anyway
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Work shift u say nice a? What can u learn from there? So far i know is Emerio.
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Work shift u say nice a? What can u learn from there? So far i know is Emerio.
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haha ... learn very minimal ... at night most of time nothing to do ... so just sleep, watch movie, eat, listen music, etc ... after a while ... I cabut loh laugh.gif
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It depends,but i think CCNA is more technical exam question,you only can memorize for taking MCSD certificate,hehhehehehe sorry if i am wrong
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It depends,but i think CCNA is more technical exam question,you only can memorize for taking MCSD certificate,hehhehehehe sorry if i am wrong
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MCSD ... no idea ... I know when I took MCAD many years ago ... i was one of the 5,000 candidates worldwide received chartered status ... damn happy at that time smile.gif
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btw, ccna hard to get ? err.. am working in networking line.. and now thinking of getting a ccna cert.. but the course fee damn high.. so just wondering if taking the exam without course.. can i pass a ?hmm

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CCNA easy ... lot of theoretical questions ... the simulation portion also not tough ... if study well ... sure pass smile.gif
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does ccna useful or contribute anythin if i work in data centre operation engineer ?
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data centre ... then you need data centre certification ... there is one training centre at mid valley conducting the course ... smile.gif
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QUOTE(FirezZ @ May 9 2008, 02:59 AM)
btw, ccna hard to get ? err.. am working in networking line.. and now thinking of getting  a ccna cert.. but the course fee damn high.. so just wondering if taking the exam without course.. can i pass a ?hmm
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CCNA seems eas to get.. The course fees isn't that high... A institute offers 3k for 7 weeks class plus exams and books.. The exam alone is just RM 580.. If u already hv experience in networking, just take the exam, but make sure u know about the newest cisco products...
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does ccna useful or contribute anythin if i work in data centre operation engineer ?
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For basic lor. rclxms.gif
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For basic lor.  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(roy_zu @ May 9 2008, 11:13 AM)
CCNA seems eas to get.. The course fees isn't that high... A institute offers 3k for 7 weeks class plus exams and books.. The exam alone is just RM 580.. If u already hv experience in networking, just take the exam, but make sure u know about the newest cisco products...
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do u have any sample of the exam paper??? just want to look at it and if it easy , i want to take it

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hmm i thought all the sample are on pass4sure ? tongue.gif
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do u have any sample of the exam paper??? just want to look at it and if it easy , i want to take it
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I just entrolled in CCNA class... Once i get the sample question paper, i'll PM you... By the way, u can have a look at pass4sure for sample questions... But, don't take it as a bible to pass CCNA... It's worth to take CCNA if u think u can understand networking, rather then dump all the questions in ur head... PM me if u wan to know more about CCNA class... My course is starting at 25th May...
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Hye guys..

I am interested to be CCNA certified.

Is it possible 4 me to sit for the exam w/o goin to the class? (the class is so expensive la sad.gif )


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u may but CISCO so hard man. if in classroom anything u dun un u may refer your lect and u can hadns-on router configuration.
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wondering how is the average pay for ccna, ccnp. says experience in two different group 1-2 yrs or 3-5 years
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QUOTE(zaim_sji @ May 14 2008, 11:20 AM)
Hye guys..

I am interested to be CCNA certified.

Is it possible 4 me to sit for the exam w/o goin to the class? (the class is so expensive la  sad.gif )
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haha, no go class/lab means will not do. You then get the cert, will you proud of it? But sure is proud la, get certified. But if go to the real device/hand-ons, you will definitely no idea on what you are doing.

Many people trying to get the cert first then only learn the hand-on during work. But my frenz do tell me, many people with so called CCNA, CCNP, CCSP, but suck in hand-ons, many cannot even past the probation period of work. Feel shame.

Actually with the real classroom/lab of CCNA, you already in the 1 year early in the industry if compare to those without cert. I done my classroom/lab CCNA for nearly one and half year. Not use to get a "fake" Cisco cert. Your superior will know what you able to do or not able to do.

Anyway, my lecturer always told me, the fees is not so important, just enroll and go for the class, expensive never mind! It is for your own good in the future.


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wondering how is the average pay for ccna, ccnp. says experience in two different group 1-2 yrs or 3-5 years
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The pay have been cut down or even is NULL, just because nowadays many fake CCNA cert. Like me, i apply for the previous job, it do have extra RM300 for basic, just because i got CCNA cert.

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haha, no go class/lab means will not do. You then get the cert, will you proud of it? But sure is proud la, get certified. But if go to the real device/hand-ons, you will definitely no idea on what you are doing.

Many people trying to get the cert first then only learn the hand-on during work. But my frenz do tell me, many people with so called CCNA, CCNP, CCSP, but suck in hand-ons, many cannot even past the probation period of work. Feel shame.

Actually with the real classroom/lab of CCNA, you already in the 1 year early in the industry if compare to those without cert. I done my classroom/lab CCNA for nearly one and half year. Not use to get a "fake" Cisco cert. Your superior will know what you able to do or not able to do.

Anyway, my lecturer always told me, the fees is not so important, just enroll and go for the class, expensive never mind! It is for your own good in the future.


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The pay have been cut down or even is NULL, just because nowadays many fake CCNA cert. Like me, i apply for the previous job, it do have extra RM300 for basic, just because i got CCNA cert.
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Thanks for the reply bro..

Where do u enroll for the CCNA and CCNP before?
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 14 2008, 11:56 AM)
haha, no go class/lab means will not do. You then get the cert, will you proud of it? But sure is proud la, get certified. But if go to the real device/hand-ons, you will definitely no idea on what you are doing.

Many people trying to get the cert first then only learn the hand-on during work. But my frenz do tell me, many people with so called CCNA, CCNP, CCSP, but suck in hand-ons, many cannot even past the probation period of work. Feel shame.

Actually with the real classroom/lab of CCNA, you already in the 1 year early in the industry if compare to those without cert. I done my classroom/lab CCNA for nearly one and half year. Not use to get a "fake" Cisco cert. Your superior will know what you able to do or not able to do.

Anyway, my lecturer always told me, the fees is not so important, just enroll and go for the class, expensive never mind! It is for your own good in the future.


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The pay have been cut down or even is NULL, just because nowadays many fake CCNA cert. Like me, i apply for the previous job, it do have extra RM300 for basic, just because i got CCNA cert.
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I also took 1year to learn CCNA module in UM. Then this year learn some basic of CCNP.

Total of 2years experience in CISCO stuff, include theory, hands on experience, and skills.


But due to so many "fake" CCNA outside, we go out find job the cert become entry requirement already.

But if the boss are Cisco background fella, then the "fake" CCNA will be detected.
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QUOTE(zaim_sji @ May 14 2008, 11:59 AM)
Thanks for the reply bro..

Where do u enroll for the CCNA and CCNP before?
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My university' Regional Cisco Networking Academy, so we are student, the fees for the course and exam fee is cheap. I advice this cert must take during study, so it will easily to absorb.

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I also took 1year to learn CCNA module in UM.  Then this year learn some basic of CCNP. 

Total of 2years experience in CISCO stuff,  include theory, hands on experience, and skills.
But due to so many "fake" CCNA outside, we go out find job the cert become entry requirement already.

But if the boss are Cisco background fella, then the "fake" CCNA will be detected.
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Correct!!!

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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 14 2008, 12:10 PM)
My university' Regional Cisco Networking Academy, so we are student, the fees for the course and exam fee is cheap. I advice this cert must take during study, so it will easily to absorb.

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Correct!!!
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But i think our Cisco Networking Academy modules cover more knowledge and information compare with you take the course at those training center.

We learn how to crimp the cable, learn how to configure router n switches. We learn design the network and manage the network.


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But i think our Cisco Networking Academy modules cover more knowledge and information compare with you take the course at those training center.

We learn how to crimp the cable,  learn how to configure router n switches. We learn design the network and manage the network.
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yes! Cisco Networking Academy in University always the best to learn. Training center expensive and cannot learn things! Bluff people money!!

Bravo mmu! bravo um!

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Is CCSP in demand nowadays? Every job advertisment that I see (network related) only ask for CCNA or CCNP. I've yet to see an employer that asks for CCSP.

So, my question is: Is CCSP recognised in the industry? Is it in demand? Is it valuable? Will taking CCSP be rewarding later in one's career (Security related)?
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Hmm how if we really study based online, but also based on p4s ...

in same time we learn n understand also by using simulator software

does that really help too ? unsure.gif
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Is CCSP in demand nowadays? Every job advertisment that I see (network related) only ask for CCNA or CCNP. I've yet to see an employer that asks for CCSP.

So, my question is: Is CCSP recognised in the industry? Is it in demand? Is it valuable? Will taking CCSP be rewarding later in one's career (Security related)?
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Yes, valuable.


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Hmm how if we really study based online, but also based on p4s ...

in same time we learn n understand also by using simulator software

does that really help too ? unsure.gif
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How u think employers can detect fake CCNA cert holders and the one who really put effort to study?

And what's the different in studying at MMU or UM then in some cicso reconized training centers? If u can tell, studying for a long term(1 year) is more valuable, then i would say, it's not hong long u r studying but how fast u get things understand....
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QUOTE(roy_zu @ May 14 2008, 03:40 PM)
How u think employers can detect fake CCNA cert holders and the one who really put effort to study?

And what's the different in studying at MMU or UM then in some cicso reconized training centers? If u can tell, studying for a long term(1 year) is more valuable, then i would say, it's not hong long u r studying but how fast u get things understand....
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We are talking among the undergraduate in the university and not the working adults.

Cheers la man~~ You are so serious. rclxms.gif Like bosong like that.
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yeah. in that case, i tink i will be taking it soon tongue.gif
but don tink i will go for the classs.. too expensive ba..
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pm me when anyone going for the class or exam ya biggrin.gif
get more infor.. then sure pass gua.. tongue.gif

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read testking lah haha.and download visualcert software.
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read testking lah haha.and download visualcert software.
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yeah. in that case, i tink i will be taking it soon tongue.gif
but don tink i will go for the classs.. too expensive ba..
hmm
pm me when anyone going for the class or exam ya biggrin.gif
get more infor.. then sure pass gua.. tongue.gif
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I think, it's better for u to go for classes.. If not, u wouldn't experience in latest cisco routers... How u gonna study ur own? TestKing or Pass4Sure is it? Not worth for a company to hire pass4sure CCNA holder... Haha... I'm going for classes.. PM me for more info...


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We are talking among the undergraduate in the university and not the working adults.

Cheers la man~~ You are so serious.  rclxms.gif Like bosong like that.
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Sorry fren.. I'm not serious though.. Maybe i misunderstood the topic discussed... Anyway, cheers...

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how much actually gonna cost me if i taking CCNA tests including classes?
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ May 15 2008, 12:15 PM)
how much actually gonna cost me if i taking CCNA tests including classes?
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Classes cost RM 2999 for 7 sundays, by a CCIE holder.. Exam is RM 580.... Classes held at Kuchai Lama Entrepurners Park.. For contact details, PM me... Classes starting on May 25th... All the latest facilities available...

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even u go for classes doesnt mean u know all rite ?after get cert get job with lower salary then after 2 yrs hands-on cabut lor.
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QUOTE(ubsacc2004 @ May 15 2008, 12:18 PM)
even u go for classes doesnt mean u know all rite ?after get cert get job with lower salary then after 2 yrs hands-on cabut lor.
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But someone who going for classes and learning new technology from cisco, surely far better then a testking CCNA holders... No one knows 100% in networking site... So can't tell, someone who going for classes should know all....
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QUOTE(roy_zu @ May 15 2008, 12:17 PM)
Classes cost RM 2999 for 7 sundays, by a CCIE holder.. Exam is RM 580.... Classes held at Kuchai Lama Entrepurners Park.. For contact details, PM me... Classes starting on May 25th... All the latest facilities available...
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it is a little pricy..but u get 2 experience the real thngy instead of only watching books rite? do u thnk its a gud idea 2 take CCNA if need 2 change field, means frm non-IT field 2 IT field.. interested in networking thngy.. sweat.gif enter wrong job liao last time.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ May 15 2008, 12:24 PM)
it is a little pricy..but u get 2 experience the real thngy instead of only watching books rite? do u thnk its a gud idea 2 take CCNA if need 2 change field, means frm non-IT field 2 IT field.. interested in networking thngy.. sweat.gif  enter wrong job liao last time.. doh.gif
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It's consider reasonable price then other institutes... Plus u can experience real things... R u from non-IT background? CCNA cert is mostly for IT graduates... But if u know about what is IP address and how to find ur own IP using Command prompt, shouldn't be a problem taking CCNA... In the 7 week class, u will be more network knowledgeable then a pure IT graduate.. Trust me..
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i'm not actually know where i belong.. i know PC, i can buka my pc n put it back.. my house is wireless networked, with 2~3pcs..port forwarding/IP detect/ez network prob shouldn't be a prob 2 me.. my office router network/pc prob also find me.. but i only studied pc back in high school..
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i dont encourage go training center for ccna classes. just spend ur money on sybex ccna study guide by todd lamle, build a hub and spoke topology using dynamips, then u r good to go.
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from non-IT to IT field ... all depend individual capabilities

I had a friend from electrical engineering who knows nothing about Cisco networking ... attended the class ... quit after few classes cause the trainer sucks ... self-study CCNA and passed the exam ... found an IT job and continue self-study+hands-on ... later joined a new company and passed CCNP exam ... now in MNC... as Cisco expert ... not sure whether achieve CCIE status
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QUOTE(clngu @ May 15 2008, 12:40 PM)
from non-IT to IT field ... all depend individual capabilities

I had a friend from electrical engineering who knows nothing about Cisco networking ... attended the class ... quit after few classes cause the trainer sucks ... self-study CCNA and passed the exam ... found an IT job and continue self-study+hands-on ... later joined a new company and passed CCNP exam ... now in MNC... as Cisco expert ... not sure whether achieve CCIE status
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It's true all depends on individual capabilities.. For me, i'll only concentrate if i attend classes and listen to trainer... For others maybe they can self-study... Once know the basic level, i think self-studying should be a problem.. But starting from stracth, self-studying not recommended...


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QUOTE(ben_ang @ May 15 2008, 12:35 PM)
i'm not actually know where i belong.. i know PC, i can buka my pc n put it back.. my house is wireless networked, with 2~3pcs..port forwarding/IP detect/ez network prob shouldn't be a prob 2 me.. my office router network/pc prob also find me.. but i only studied pc back in high school..
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Shouldn't be a problem... I'm sure u will manage to learn things very fast... If u worried about spending money on classes, then go for self-study.. But as a beginner like me, i recommend attend classes... Someone who as experience before can self-study.. Not all... We should know our own capabilities before listening to others... Some might said, going for classes waste of money.. maybe for them coz they r expert.. Not all... So i think, for people who know things, don't discourage others who going to start from the beginning...

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QUOTE(sunnysitsit @ May 15 2008, 12:39 PM)
i dont encourage go training center for ccna classes. just spend ur money on sybex ccna study guide by todd lamle, build a hub and spoke topology using dynamips, then u r good to go.
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bro is this the book u were referring to (please go to the link below)?

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-...&AREA=05&LANG=E
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QUOTE(zaim_sji @ May 15 2008, 04:18 PM)
bro is this the book u were referring to (please go to the link below)?

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-...&AREA=05&LANG=E
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I have the book u mention above. Original and still new never use before.

Anyone interested can PM me, i offer cheap price to let go. ( Few units available )


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QUOTE(zaim_sji @ May 15 2008, 04:18 PM)
bro is this the book u were referring to (please go to the link below)?

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-...&AREA=05&LANG=E
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Soft copy available in torrent site, just go and search, download for free.
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 15 2008, 07:19 PM)
Soft copy available in torrent site, just go and search, download for free.
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Hard copy easy to reference.

For self study, it is recommend using hard copy of the book.
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QUOTE(howeijie @ May 15 2008, 08:18 PM)
Hard copy easy to reference.

For self study, it is recommend using hard copy of the book.
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I have the book u mention above. Original and still new never use before.

Anyone interested can PM me, i offer cheap price to let go. ( Few units available )


Y u have so many book that u never use, then u say u recommend for using hardcover? U buy so many hardcover for what reason? Lol


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bro is this the book u were referring to (please go to the link below)?

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-...&AREA=05&LANG=E
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Later i PM u the copy la, if i able to find.

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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 16 2008, 01:05 AM)
Y u have so many book that u never use, then u say u recommend for using hardcover? U buy so many hardcover for what reason? Lol


Added on May 16, 2008, 1:06 am

Later i PM u the copy la, if i able to find.
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It is belong to my friends, they bought it for the course but the tutor didn use it. So i say never use before.


Is it i offense you since i sell ORIGINAL hard copy book to other people but not using those so-called torrent site ebook ?? doh.gif doh.gif


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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 16 2008, 01:05 AM)
Y u have so many book that u never use, then u say u recommend for using hardcover? U buy so many hardcover for what reason? Lol


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Later i PM u the copy la, if i able to find.
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QUOTE(zaim_sji @ May 15 2008, 04:18 PM)
bro is this the book u were referring to (please go to the link below)?

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-...&AREA=05&LANG=E
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Is CCSP in demand nowadays? Every job advertisment that I see (network related) only ask for CCNA or CCNP. I've yet to see an employer that asks for CCSP.

So, my question is: Is CCSP recognised in the industry? Is it in demand? Is it valuable? Will taking CCSP be rewarding later in one's career (Security related)?
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Is CCSP in demand nowadays? Every job advertisment that I see (network related) only ask for CCNA or CCNP. I've yet to see an employer that asks for CCSP.

So, my question is: Is CCSP recognised in the industry? Is it in demand? Is it valuable? Will taking CCSP be rewarding later in one's career (Security related)?
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Cisco Certified Security Professional is definitely demanded in the market ... cause too many social engineering and cybercrime nowadays

just CCSP is not enough ... add CISM,CISSP, CEH, CHFI, SCSECA, etc smile.gif
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Cisco Certified Security Professional is definitely demanded in the market ... cause too many social engineering and cybercrime nowadays

just CCSP is not enough ... add CISM,CISSP, CEH, CHFI, SCSECA, etc  smile.gif
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QUOTE(athlon64 @ May 16 2008, 03:40 AM)
Dont be so cheap skate lah,  self study already can save a lot of money, now still recommend other people using pirated copy of ebook.    sweat.gif  shakehead.gif
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Brother, is download not purchase.


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QUOTE(howeijie @ May 16 2008, 03:29 AM)
It is belong to my friends, they bought it for the course but the tutor didn use it. So i say never use before. 
Is it i offense you since i sell ORIGINAL hard copy book to other people but not using those so-called torrent site ebook ??  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Y so hard to buy ori? Just download a free one la. Your frenz also kena cons coz tell also been cons to buy an ori, but never use it. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 16 2008, 12:41 PM)
Brother, is download not purchase.


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Y so hard to buy ori? Just download a free one la. Your frenz also kena cons coz tell also been cons to buy an ori, but never use it.  rclxms.gif
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Why not u ask the Popular Bookshop, MPH Book store, The Border, KinoKuniya to close down their shop in Malaysia since a lot of books have ebook version ????? smile.gif

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Cisco Certified Security Professional is definitely demanded in the market ... cause too many social engineering and cybercrime nowadays

just CCSP is not enough ... add CISM,CISSP, CEH, CHFI, SCSECA, etc  smile.gif
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I'm a Security Technology major and will be graduating end of Oct. What do you think is the most suitable certification that I should take? I'll be taking my CCNA by end of next month.
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I'm a Security Technology major and will be graduating end of Oct. What do you think is the most suitable certification that I should take? I'll be taking my CCNA by end of next month.
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Why not u ask the Popular Bookshop, MPH Book store, The Border, KinoKuniya to close down their shop in Malaysia since a lot of books have ebook version ?????  smile.gif

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get a hard copy is better!

i saw the book sold in kinokuniya
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Then you all also think like tat a, hmmmm. Then just buy the hard copy lor. But i believe the books sell in klcc is old syllabus.

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The Cisco Press hardcover books for the new syllabus is out already but not yet available in most local bookstores.

About the security certification, got so many certifications, so which one to choose? For a beginner like me, I wanna take something that would enable me to learn progressively and not all in one go.
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The Cisco Press hardcover books for the new syllabus is out already but not yet available in most local bookstores.

About the security certification, got so many certifications, so which one to choose? For a beginner like me, I wanna take something that would enable me to learn progressively and not all in one go.
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so what should i do? just wait for the new syllabus or should i buy the current syllabus book?

is there a lot of changes in the new syllabus?
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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 19 2008, 12:50 AM)
Then you all also think like tat a, hmmmm. Then just buy the hard copy lor. But i believe the books sell in klcc is old syllabus.
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Latest syllabus is CCNA 640-802. The book shown in the Kinokuniya website is latest frm SYBEX but not from CISCO press, publish in August 2007. 6th edition. Please go and check it out before posting comment here. icon_idea.gif


Old syllabus is CCNA 640-801, Sybex 5th edition.


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QUOTE(NicholasG5 @ May 19 2008, 03:05 AM)
The Cisco Press hardcover books for the new syllabus is out already but not yet available in most local bookstores.

About the security certification, got so many certifications, so which one to choose? For a beginner like me, I wanna take something that would enable me to learn progressively and not all in one go.
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SYBEX already have the latest syllabus CCNA 640-802, already sell in book store

but CISCO Press latest syllabus not yet sell in Malaysia.

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Nice one. By doing so, you've just helped creating more and more braindump cisco networkers. Thank you so so so so much notworthy.gifrclxms.gif
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Nice one. By doing so, you've just helped creating more and more braindump cisco networkers. Thank you so so so so much notworthy.gifrclxms.gif
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Got a? Not a big deal also, they can have more reference and self study ma. Actually a good way..... rclxms.gif
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Can I know what is called "dump" for the CCNA learning materials in Sadikhov ? unsure.gif
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Can I know what is called "dump" for the  CCNA learning materials in Sadikhov ? unsure.gif
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"Dump" means the old syllabus materials, being phase out, but still % relevant to the new syllabus.

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[FREE Download] Sadikhov Cisco Shares: CCNA, Great Stuff for the Preparation of CCNA

http://www.sadikhov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=110500

Download the latest CCNA Press Book materials, new syllabus materials, Test King, Pass4sure, Virtual Cert, Network Simulator and just study in home and you can pass CCNA, and you can certified by Cisco, so cool!!! Don't waste you $$$.


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Yea sadikhov really rich with information ...

I downloaded cbtnugget video for CCNA ... very detail... he explain from top to bottom ....

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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 20 2008, 11:40 AM)
"Dump" means the old syllabus materials, being phase out, but still % relevant to the new syllabus.

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[FREE Download] Sadikhov Cisco Shares: CCNA, Great Stuff for the Preparation of CCNA

http://www.sadikhov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=110500

Download the latest CCNA Press Book materials, new syllabus materials, Test King, Pass4sure, Virtual Cert, Network Simulator and just study in home and you can pass CCNA, and you can certified by Cisco, so cool!!! Don't waste you $$$.


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I think dump refer to those real exam questions like pass4sure, testking and so on.
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I think dump refer to those real exam questions like pass4sure, testking and so on.
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Thank for correcting me! Don't so obvious la, they are some ppl unhappy out there, but today i see somebody is smiling.

it is all about Open Source OSS rclxms.gif

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Thank for correcting me! Don't so obvious la, they are some ppl unhappy out there, but today i see somebody is smiling.

it is all about Open Source OSS rclxms.gif
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Actually sharing ebooks is fine. But definitely not dumps. When you start to work and you get surrounded by a bunch of fresh "CCNA's" who ask questions like "what's VLAN?" or "whats subnet?", only then you'll realize how much damage these question dumps have done. Btw, my previous instructor was a dump user also (he self-confessed laugh.gif), which explains the poor ability to explain theories mentioned in the book. So for those who wanted to attend class, better check on the background of the instructor before you make a move. Make sure the instructor has at least 3 years experience in the industry

Btw, if you insist on advocating dumps, then carry on rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sleepy @ May 21 2008, 12:37 PM)
Actually sharing ebooks is fine. But definitely not dumps. When you start to work and you get surrounded by a bunch of fresh "CCNA's" who ask questions like "what's VLAN?" or "whats subnet?", only then you'll realize how much damage these question dumps have done. Btw, my previous instructor was a dump user also (he self-confessed laugh.gif), which explains the poor ability to explain theories mentioned in the book. So for those who wanted to attend class, better check on the background of the instructor before you make a move. Make sure the instructor has at least 3 years experience in the industry

Btw, if you insist on advocating dumps, then carry on rclxms.gif
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y u say is all dump? It is all useful material for the student to undestand!! Video, make your understanding more better. Testing kIng, improve your Q & A. What wrong? It all about extra matreail to further understanding. Just the people don't know how to use it, or vilate the useage is called dump!! The people dunno to subnet is actually dump to have ccna. The site, the ebook, the video have teach how to subnet, just the problem they did nto understand, you want to blame the website for free ebook sharing or etc? This is up to their effort to become better understanding of what they all reading.

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thnk d point is not d material who make ppl dump, only ppl making themself dump? cant entirely blame 2 material, it only tells u watever it writes on d material, somethngy cannot entirely tought by books n all, so on hand experience is also important.
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[FREE Download] Sadikhov Cisco Shares: CCNA, Great Stuff for the Preparation of CCNA

http://www.sadikhov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=110500

Download the latest CCNA Press Book materials, new syllabus materials, Test King, Pass4sure, Virtual Cert, Network Simulator and just study in home and you can pass CCNA, and you can certified by Cisco, so cool!!! Don't waste you $$$.


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QUOTE(Xing Fang @ May 21 2008, 02:09 PM)
y u say is all dump? It is all useful material for the student to undestand!! Video, make your understanding more better. Testing kIng, improve your Q & A. What wrong? It all about extra matreail to further understanding. Just the people don't know how to use it, or vilate the useage is called dump!! The people dunno to subnet is actually dump to have ccna. The site, the ebook, the video have teach how to subnet, just the problem they did nto understand, you want to blame the website for free ebook sharing or etc? This is up to their effort to become better understanding of what they all reading.
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Like i said, I've nothing against ebooks and stuff, just the dumps. p4s, testking and stuffs like that are the dumps that i meant. Actually, dumps doesnt improve your q&a, its plain cheating coz its the exact copy of the paper. I've heard numerous times CCNA candidates saying how easy and effortless it is to pass it coz they use p4s. Best part is, one of the candidates couldnt even login to the simulated router during the test. He was blaming the keyboard is broken coz when he type the password, nothing appears in the password field (i assume he's thinking there should be some chars like **). And yeah, that guy just clicked next and skipped the sim question coz he said the sim's not working. Zero practise, only memorizing i assume, yet he still passed the test despite skipping the sim which carries most marks. Why he passed? Bcoz the dumps have the exact copy of the question bank.

There's no doubt that the value of ccna/ccnp is fast dropping due to dumps (ccie following suit), which explains why cisco came up with a cert thats lower that ccna itself, while revamping the ccna syllabus by adding more stuff in it. But can this really combat the dumps? I dont think so, coz dumps are updated so frequently, that no matter what cisco do to combat it they still can catch up quickly.

Anyway, my point is quite simple. Sharing ebooks and study materials is ok (not that ok actually, coz its breaching copyrights stuff tongue.gif. but then not every student can afford books from multiple publishers), but definitely not dumps. I've got nothing against you personally ok?
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Like i said, I've nothing against ebooks and stuff, just the dumps. p4s, testking and stuffs like that are the dumps that i meant. Actually, dumps doesnt improve your q&a, its plain cheating coz its the exact copy of the paper. I've heard numerous times CCNA candidates saying how easy and effortless it is to pass it coz they use p4s. Best part is, one of the candidates couldnt even login to the simulated router during the test. He was blaming the keyboard is broken coz when he type the password, nothing appears in the password field (i assume he's thinking there should be some chars like **). And yeah, that guy just clicked next and skipped the sim question coz he said the sim's not working. Zero practise, only memorizing i assume, yet he still passed the test despite skipping the sim which carries most marks. Why he passed? Bcoz the dumps have the exact copy of the question bank.

There's no doubt that the value of ccna/ccnp is fast dropping due to dumps (ccie following suit), which explains why cisco came up with a cert thats lower that ccna itself, while revamping the ccna syllabus by adding more stuff in it. But can this really combat the dumps? I dont think so, coz dumps are updated so frequently, that no matter what cisco do to combat it they still can catch up quickly.

Anyway, my point is quite simple. Sharing ebooks and study materials is ok (not that ok actually, coz its breaching copyrights stuff tongue.gif. but then not every student can afford books from multiple publishers), but definitely not dumps. I've got nothing against you personally ok?
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I really wish to know anyone here actually study online or by ebooks from A~Z ... and pass their CCNA ...

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I really wish to know anyone here actually study online or by ebooks from A~Z ... and pass their CCNA ...

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I didnt read ebooks, only the real sybex 5th edition book. But yeah, i do prefer ebooks now coz these books are expensive. The only thing i can say is that it consumes time tongue.gif. Of course the book alone isnt enough, so quite alot of googling involved as well. Oh and i use routersim and boson last time for practise. Buggy+limited sims, but then I've got no choice coz there's just 1 router and 1 switch in the lab, and its a 2500 series laugh.gif
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as i c, reading ebook u need 2 stick 2 ur chair n table, while real books u can take here take there, adjust abit d way u sit..more flexible sometimes..
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as i c, reading ebook u need 2 stick 2 ur chair n table, while real books u can take here take there, adjust abit d way u sit..more flexible sometimes..
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i really want to study cnna. thakns
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CCNA can do self-study(offical curriculum and sybex materials) + router simulation tools (free download from internet).

am not sure which training centre has good trainers (CCIE certified?)
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CCNA can do self-study(offical curriculum and sybex materials) + router simulation tools (free download from internet).

am not sure which training centre has good trainers (CCIE certified?)
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hey guyz....CCNA only valid for 3 yrs after passing the exam. So is it worth it to take this certification?
I'm interested to take one but after thinking of participating for 6 to 8 months then few thousands of fees...but in the end it only can last for 3 yrs ...that means have to re take the exam again.
Pls advice

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After 3 years, can jump to CCNP then your CCNA will be still valid ?
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i wonder wat does it mean by valid 4 3yrs? u mean after 3yrs d cert is totally rubbish n u need 2 take a new 1? hmm.. tat doesnt sound gud..
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it is like renewing your license (in this case is IT). for those who hold Cisco license card and working in networking field, should know the value (why need to recertify yourself) of it.

for me, am just retake CCIE written exam every 3 years to renew my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP.
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cIngu, renew means have to resit for the whole exam again or how does it actually means?

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nope. just sit for any 642-xxx exam (1 paper enough) at professional level (meaning same at CCNP level) or CCIE written exam.
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which mean every 3 yrs we need 2 retake a 642-xxx exam in order 2 maintain d certification?
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3 years? Y so long? Somebody explain?
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the answer,

Once you get your CCNA and CCNP, you can't just rest on your accomplishment. You've got to continue to study and add to your skill set - and then prove to Cisco you've been doing just that by recertifying.

Recertification sounds like a pain, but it's actually one of the best things to ever happen to computer certification, and it helps your career as well. One trap many LAN and WAN personnel fall into is that they fail to keep up with changes in technology, and if they happen to be laid off or want to change jobs, they're unable to because they didn't keep their skill set up.

Cisco's recertification policies ensure that if you want to keep your CCNA, CCNP, or one of the other valuable Cisco certifications, you've got to take a recertification exam.

As a professional, it's your responsibility to keep up with changes in the Cisco certification world, and this includes changes in the recertification program.



Q: Is there a recertification requirement?

A: Cisco CCNP certifications are valid for three years. During that time, you must either pass the Composite exam, the BSCI and BCMSN exams, or pass any CCIE written exam.

Q: What if I don't recertify within the three-year period?

A: You must then meet whatever CCNP requirements there are at that time, from the beginning. It's easier to make sure you recertify!

Becoming CCNP certified is a great boost to your career and your confidence, and as with any Cisco certification, it's up to you to stay current with the CCNA and CCNP requirements. Visit the Career Certification section of Cisco's website regularly to learn about the program's requirements and changes. It’s not up to them to keep you notified of changes – it’s up to you!
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post Jul 8 2008, 06:17 PM

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I am interested in IT security, but dun have any exp. is taking CCNA will help me? because most security is related to networking.... mayb can take CCSP after obtain CCNA ?

anyone working in Security field? Any advise? thanks
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Hello,

Does anyone know of any colleges in KL/PJ that offers classes for SUN Java trainings (for SCJA, SJCP, SCEA - all in 1) or MS .net (leads to certification - development track - all in 1) ? Thanks.
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QUOTE(Jessica @ Jul 9 2008, 06:00 PM)
Hello,

Does anyone know of any colleges in KL/PJ that offers classes for SUN Java trainings (for SCJA, SJCP, SCEA - all in 1) or MS .net (leads to certification - development track - all in 1) ? Thanks.
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Phileo Damansara there i think got those training center for Microsoft solution
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post Sep 6 2008, 03:07 PM

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i'm CCNA holder ...so..after 3years or within 3 years i should take CCNP????
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QUOTE(Jessica @ Jul 9 2008, 06:00 PM)
Hello,

Does anyone know of any colleges in KL/PJ that offers classes for SUN Java trainings (for SCJA, SJCP, SCEA - all in 1) or MS .net (leads to certification - development track - all in 1) ? Thanks.
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post Jul 13 2009, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(gensylo @ Sep 6 2008, 03:07 PM)
i'm CCNA holder ...so..after 3years or within 3 years i should take CCNP????
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You can take any one of CCNA concentration EXAM also can. Or you can take any 1 module from CCNP. CCSP, CCVP, CCDP etc. Not necessary to take the CCNP only.

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hi all, i have a question bout the CCENT network simulator.
any1 here ever have use it?
should i get in online? eg. puchase via pearsonvue store.
is there other method to get the simulator? i did search the local bookstores, kinokuyina sells the CCNA simulator ard rm600.

i guess the CCENT sim shud be half of that price? the pearsonvue online store sells it $51.99, and that is affordable.
i plan to get the CCENT cert next year. I want to do self-study, decide to get cisco books and maybe a network simulator, which i think will be a great study material.

I dont know where to post my question. Mod do delete my post if not relevent.
Any 1? thank u
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QUOTE(SaltyBean @ Jun 29 2010, 12:31 PM)
hi all, i have a question bout the CCENT network simulator.
any1 here ever have use it?
should i get in online? eg. puchase via pearsonvue store.
is there other method to get the simulator? i did search the local bookstores, kinokuyina sells the CCNA simulator ard rm600.

i guess the CCENT sim shud be half of that price? the pearsonvue online store sells it $51.99, and that is affordable.
i plan to get the CCENT cert next year. I want to do self-study, decide to get cisco books and maybe a network simulator, which i think will be a great study material.

I dont know where to post my question. Mod do delete my post if not relevent.
Any 1? thank u
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Just take CCNA instead of CCENT... rarely see people pursue CCENT as CCNA already consider "basic"
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Guyz,I am looking foward to get myself certified with cisco certs but my working time is preventing me from attending to any classes...
Is there any1 here who can advise me on how can i take them??
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Hi guys..

anyone got ccnp pass4sure material especially SWITCH to share?

thanks
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QUOTE(StatixX @ Mar 27 2015, 11:42 AM)
Guyz,I am looking foward to get myself certified with cisco certs but my working time is preventing me from attending to any classes...
Is there any1 here who can advise me on how can i take them??
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You can join our Cisco CCNA class in August 2015. The classes is conducted during weekends over a period of 10 months. However. if you work on shift then you cannot join the class. It's a complete learning experience.

http://fci.mmu.edu.my/cisco/ccna.php
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Dear All,

We are please to invite/inform you that there will be a 2 hour briefing on CCNA and CCNP program (2014 intake) at

10am - 12 noon Saturday. 1st Aug 2015
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Cisco Lab AR-2005,
2nd Floor, FIT building,
Multimedia University, CyberJaya, Selangor.

Faculty Floor Map
http://fci.mmu.edu.my/lpmc/lab_plan_2nd_floor_files.gif

MMU Map
http://fci.mmu.edu.my/cisco/images/MMUCnergy.JPG

Cyberjaya Map
http://fci.mmu.edu.my/cisco/map_cyberjaya.html

The briefing is Free of charge. Please come if you want to know how to get your CCNA or CCNP. Please inform your interested friend as well.
Every year there is only 1 working adults intake from MMU and we take in a max of 25 students will be taken.

If you miss this opportunity, the next intake will be in July /August 2016.
For more details about the program kindly visit our website at
http://fci.mmu.edu.my/cisco/ccna.php

TQ.
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any idea which campus is offering CCNA weekend course in klang valley ?
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Jan 21 2016, 11:48 AM)
any idea which campus is offering CCNA weekend course in klang valley ?
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Does anyone have used Cisco Press's Cisco CCNA Routing and Switching 200-120 Official Cert Guide Library By Odom, Wendell, for sale?

I am looking for one, and study my journey into Cisco world.

Thanks for your help.

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Wrong thread post.

This post has been edited by wertty: Apr 19 2017, 08:33 PM
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