guys and gals...i have a question...here is the situation...

i have a fren from china. she has a bf (been together for 3 years). the guy now is in australia. taking his master over there (planning to get a PR and work there). both of them are already 26 this years (already reached the time to settle down) she never think of going there as she thinks it takes time to get herself suit to the new environment. until few days ago her bf told her to consider about continue her studies in Australia and get a PR after that..or else he wants to break up. she already wasted lotsa times when she transfer from china to m'sia (her bf was in m'sia) she redo her degree in malaysia as the uni don accept any exemption.

so the question is, if u were this gal, what will u choose? to go OR not to go?

Depends on how much the girl love the girl.

The choice is quite limited right?

If the girl can't live without him, go to Australia else they will need to break up.

If the girl can live without him and don't want to move to Australia. Break up and get a new live.

1st Id see if I can get the financial support 1st
2nd see if I can get admitance to australia.
3rd I think the guy is too demanding

He is not demanding. He is just being realistic. He has made up his mind of what he want.

So, LOOK !!! Either you come here or we end our relationship !!!

most likely this relationship won't be going anywhere even if ur friend goes to Australia. Maybe it is time for her to put herself first.

This post has been edited by Avex: Apr 10 2008, 01:43 AM

yes!!! tats wat i think....the relationship wont last if she keep tolerating...she just follow wat the guy wants...and never think of wat is the best for herself...the guy cant support her if she cant get a job there. so...sigh...love is so blind...

wat a cheap guy!!! love is blind...

ask d boy "da fong" bit ... d girl shud think bout tis ... how can a boy simply juz let it go after a long relationship juz bcos of distance?

You sounds like you are those that has no faint and give up easily on a relationship.

Well, i still look at it at the bright side. There were together for 3 yrs d. The BF has put a condition that if she wish to continue, she'll have to sacrifice again and be with him in Australia. No matter what, the lifestyle in Australia is still better than M'sia I assume.

yes...this guy has a very good planning....he knows what he wants in the future...and stay very firm...but i think this is not the way to discuss the future with the loved ones.

What does he has if he come back to M'sia?

I believe he must have a reason to ask the girl to go over. Seriously, the guy sounds like a smart guy to me. If not he won't be doing his master in Australia now.

How much salary would he get in M'sia with his master compared to Australia? I believe there is nothing wrong in wishing for the best. Transferring from M'sia to Australia might be a problem for a short period of time but losing the chance being with someone you truly love is a lost in the long run.

lifestyle cant be assumed...this is depends on herself. food, weather and everything need to put into consideration. opportunity to get a good permanent job is also another important thing to think of ..

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Added on April 10, 2008, 1:59 ami donno whether 'smart' is a suitable word to describe him as he is not the only who is able to take master over there. but the way he 'forced' his gf to go there showing he is NOT smart

This post has been edited by pumpkinn: Apr 10 2008, 01:59 AM

1. Why think of something you don't know? As i said, the decision is very simple. LOOK ! Make up ur mind, u want him ... go over. U don't want him, go over. ( You / U = Your friend )

2. It is NOT force. Force is no matter what, she must go. This is called as putting a condition. You come = We will be together. You don't come = We break up.

3. Which part of him that is NOT smart? As I said, he know what he want. Does your friend know want she want? If she does, she would be able to make a decision by now

This post has been edited by Vinspire: Apr 10 2008, 02:02 AM

Lets just speak with common sense. Please don't just tell TS friend to just pack up and just go flying to Australia and everything will be fine. Life is real, there is more things to just LOVE to consider. what is her security, the guy's words and LOVE?

Now where is the BF's responsibility in this relationship. Sounds more like he wants everything done his way or no way. If he is smart enough, take one step at a time, TS ask ur friend to talk with her BF. tell this BF of hers to get a job first, when everything is very much settled down on his side, maybe the bf should then invite her to go over, if she likes it then settle down.--This is a plan

This post has been edited by Avex: Apr 10 2008, 04:08 AM

yes...i personally think she is not smart...but as a fren i cant say ' hey, just leave him!!!' for the 1st point, i am not thinking of something i donno...this is one of the ways to get herself well prepared to face anything which might be happened over there. anyhow, if she decided to go, she will be all alone over there. no frens, no relatives. and nobody can guarantee that the guy wont leave her if she goes.

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Added on April 10, 2008, 2:12 amyes agree!

This post has been edited by pumpkinn: Apr 10 2008, 02:12 AM

As I've mentioned in most of my post. Your friend should know what she want. Can she live without the girl or not?

As a fren, we should support whatever her decision is coz even if you help her decide, it might not be the right thing. It is her life, she should make decision on your own.

Avex, it is not good to jump into a conclusion by saying the guy can't provide security for the girl. Within 3 yrs period, I am sure they've gone through a lot of memories together. We doesn't know the full story of this scenario. Therefore, I don't think any of us in the forum have the right to give her advice of what to do.

pumpkinn, when she first came to M'sia. I am sure she is her alone by herself too.

Finally, I don't believe such thing as guarantee exist in a relationship. If there is such thing as guarantee, then I guess every girl will fall for guy if they said "I guarantee you will be happy if you marry me".

yeah i agree. even if he had made up his mind, shouldnt he be thinking about the difficulties that she might face?

Is it possible for your friend to finish her studies before she fly over to Australia? How many more semesters for her to complete her studies? It's a huge investment (education), I don't think it's a good idea to keep delaying, transferring and switching for the sake of a guy who is hardly considerate.

Giving ultimatum in a relationship really shows a lot about a person's tolerance level. I am not saying the guy isn't good, but expecting the girl to throw up everything in her life, including her important studies just to be with him is a tad over the board.

Can he support her if she couldn't get into university there? Who's paying for her fees if she can get in? What about daily expanses?

its quite a good idea the guy has and ask your friend to go if she see's a future in the relationship iv seen my malaysians freinds go to aus to study when reach there have long distance relation ship with gf in the end they have a hard time keeping up the relationship...

if he wants his cock so much then go ahead.

Prostitution is legal in aussie..

Ever heard of bf selling their gf to bapak ayam? Is common in aus. especially students. they hold ur passport and threaten them to work for them.. must serve at least 4 customer a day..

Asian gals are hot in demand there.. dun be dumb until got sell by her bf oso dunno..

her bf got mental prob la..

Ask her come to Malaysia to study or wat.. if no cock cannot survive ask her go back china and marry la.
Wasting her parents money..