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baldi91
post Nov 20 2017, 05:21 PM

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I saw in BSN asbf webpage that they offer 4 65% for those with less than rm3k salary and 4.7% for those with more than rm3k salary. Can anyone confirm this?
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post Nov 21 2017, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(annas473 @ Nov 20 2017, 08:25 PM)
Screenshot what u saw then
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http://www.mybsn.com.my/content.xhtml?contentId=513
baldi91
post Nov 21 2017, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Nov 21 2017, 11:11 AM)
Just check

Bsn asb loan is conventional, no lock in period + conventional insurance is compulsory.

Best rate but if with insurance the ROI will be less
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post Nov 21 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Nov 21 2017, 11:11 AM)
Just check

Bsn asb loan is conventional, no lock in period + conventional insurance is compulsory.

Best rate but if with insurance the ROI will be less
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Thanks for the info bro
baldi91
post Nov 21 2017, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Porie @ Nov 21 2017, 06:20 PM)
I want to ask all sifus when is the best time to terminate/apply asb loan?

Should I just wait next year when government announce year dividend? Or just straight away go with it?

I have 30k loan right now with maybank @ 5%, planning to go higher and choose other banks with better rates.
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Now (november) should the best time because you'll get your principle and dividend by january nx year.
I you terminate on (lets say) march, you'll only get back your principle in the next couple of month. You need to wait for nx year to get the dividen from jan-march.
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post Dec 26 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(tradefameplz @ Dec 26 2017, 06:39 PM)
hi guys. fresh grad on first paycheck here, confused about a couple of things regarding asb loans:

1. why do people tend to maximize the loan tenure? when i use calculator, despite having a higher monthly commitment, shorter tenure loans in the long run leads to lower total payment. is there something i am missing?

2. i read earlier in this thread that people cancel their loan every 3 years and reapply? this one completely confuses me. won't it be better to fully pay off your loan? how is this viable?

3. now that asb is closed for the year, is it better for me to wait until it reopens for me to apply for the loan? or will i only have to start paying for the loan once asb is opened again?

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1. Most people can't commit to large monthly payment. If you can pay 200k loan in 10 years comfortably, then go for it. For asb, it is more profitable to loan 200k for 30 years than 20k for 10 years due to compounding dividend (provided u no touch dividend)

2. Not sure why ppl do this. You are right that it id better to fully pay off your loan.

3. You can apply now and request them to start the loan on feb/march/april. Up to you .



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post Jan 6 2018, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 5 2018, 10:19 PM)
http://www.mybsn.com.my/content.xhtml?contentId=513

4.65% for government servant, 4.70% for private sector employee
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Bro haziq said bsn asbf need to take insurance(compulsory)
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post Jan 22 2018, 01:57 PM

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Hello all~

Just a quick questions. Is there any kind of indication whrther or not any given ASx fund will perform? Or we can only guess and hope for the best?
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post Jan 26 2018, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Jan 26 2018, 09:31 AM)
If the difference is more than 50 yes the installment will be effect. If less than 50 than no increment with the installment
However there is a catch

If the BR increase the principal also will be flunctuate. Thats mean the principal value we get will become lesser.

So far bank sotong doesnt annouce any changes with their BR.
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Thanks for the info bro. Do keep us updated on this.
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post Jan 31 2018, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Jan 31 2018, 09:40 AM)
Just want to share new info

Maybank and cimb already increase the new rate from 4.8% to 5.05%

Ambank from 4.75% to 5%

Bsn still didnt get any news yet but im certain they also will increase the BR.

The new rate will effect to all either existing or new asb customer.

However to existing asb customer if after follow the new rate the increment is not above than RM50 then no changes to the installments.

But for the new customer will follow to the new rate which is 5.05% include the installment.

The spread will not change until the end of loan. In asbf loan there is a spread include with the BR.

The spread at cimb is 0.9% + 4.15% (BR).

For example normal rate at cimb is 3.9% + 1.3% = 5.2%
After the increment of 0.25% at the BR 3.9% will change to 4.15% which the total of the new rate include the spread will be 5.45%.

Thats mean 200k installment at 5.2% (30 years) = 1098.22 after the new rate will turn to 1129.31 (different RM31.09) - current asb customer the installment will not increase

While 200k installment at 4.8% (30 years) = 1049.33 after the new rate will turn to 1076.76 (different
RM27.43) - current asb customer the installment will not increase
Ok thats all i want to share for today. Hope u guys will get something from this reading.

-haziq-
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Thanks for the info. I really appreciate jt

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post Jan 31 2018, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2018, 12:22 PM)
Long story short, I left the dividend in there all these years and never touched it.
Took my first 200k loan when i was 24.
After 10 years it grew to 400k (200k cash from dividend)
Then took another loan and transferred the 200k cash to ASW and ASD since no ASB 2 back then. So- 400k ASB sijil + 200k cash in ASD/ASW equals 600k
Transferred to 200k to ASB2 when the fund was created
After 7 years compounding 600k, got another 200k cash. = 400k sijil + 400k cash
ASB2 loan was introduced last year so I took it. Transferred the 200k cash in ASB2 to ASD again
So now is 600k sijil + 4++k cash. Took out almost 100k to renovate my new house so now left 950k


Some facts:
- The figures above are rough approximates.
- Everything here is pure organic growth and injections by way of asbf/asb2. None of my own cash was injected.
- My limit now for asb is essentially 600k now. I can remove say 50k for emergency and put it back later
- 8 years ago, it was possible to take loan up to 400k.they don't allow that now. So you're strategies differ slightly now. Only slightly....
- The years is approximate, I can't remember exactly but it was around year 2000 I think when I just started working.
- I am an average Joe salary earner punching the clock 9-5 with a public listed company. Started out at the end of 1999 after the 1998 economic crash. My starting salary was only 1600. I'm still with  the same company albeit in a very much more comfortable post now.
- The loan installment was 1200 at that time so I only had 400 to spend a month. But I had an understanding gf back then who started work with gomen much earlier than me and pretty much supported me. She is now my wife of 15 years. I repaid her generosity by supporting her when she pursued her PhD. 
- It says 4 funds here, namely ASB, ASB2, ASD & ASW2020. throughout the years, I transfered the funds around. But I don't have any in ASW anymore.
- I employed the terminate and reapply method. Everytime I terminated, I earned back 9-10k surrender value of which I spent as a reward to myself for being disciplined enough to continously pay monthly instalments. Down-payment on my first car - a kancil. Paid for my wedding. Even Stupidly bought a gaming pc costing 10k once which is now practically a door-stopper cum flower pot.

My target is to earn 80k in dividends yearly to support me when i retire. When I die, my son can inherit the Cash.
My last dividend was 41k plus ASB2 coming in march estimated to be 15k and ASD in June estimated to be 6k. So 41 + 15 + 6 = 62k

I'm now 42 so insyaallah I can reach 80k soon since I'm still compounding. That's additional 120k into the pool every 2 years and still going.

Remember the power of OPM. I pay 32k in installments but earn 62k for a nett of 30k. Actually more than that because the 32k a year i pay I will get back in ammortized value (the principal) when surrender.

I don't terminate anymore since once I terminate i cannot apply full 400k loan anymore. Also because my age is 42 so I can't get max tenure anymore thus my monthly repayments will be higher. But I did this religiously when I was younger to treat myself when i get the principal back. sort of a incentive to keep going with this.
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Thank you for sharing your invaluable life story. Really appreciate it bro

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post May 29 2018, 01:19 PM

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Hi all, i wanted to ask something...
Lets say i have 10k in asb since januari and get 6.5k dividen for this year, that means i have 16.5k unit in ASB right?
However, would the 6.5k dividend be eligible for next year dividend calculation for the month january? Or it would only be calculated starting febuari. .
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post May 29 2018, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ May 29 2018, 02:40 PM)
Dividend for the 6.5k units will be calculated from Feb onwards since dividend is based on lowest balance every month.
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Thanks!
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post Aug 23 2018, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 23 2018, 06:29 PM)
During your refinancing, does it involve settling previous loan and balance with previous bank AND taking up another loan from your recommended bank? It's a simple yes or no question.. You pull out another graph for this...?  doh.gif
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I've helped my good friend to refinance her ASB financing. She loaned rm100k with rm811 monthly commitment for 15 years @ 5.25% interest plus a term insurance to it.
She serviced the loan for 3 + years before finally refinance it. In that 3 years, she paid about rm20k+ principal from rm100k loan.
So what happened is: she got that rm20k back and get a new asb loan rm150k for 30 years at 5.05% interest, with rm810 monthly commitment.
So when we refinance (or terminate) asbf, we get back the principal we had paid.

This post has been edited by baldi91: Aug 23 2018, 09:15 PM
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post Aug 24 2018, 10:28 PM

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Hi just wanna clarify something again...
The dividend for (let's say) year 2017 would only be eligible for 11/12 months of 2018 dividend right? Hope my question makes sense.

Example:
I have rm100 in 2017, earning rm 7 that year (let's say dividend is 7%)
So by 2018, (let's say dividend still 7%), my dividend would be = 7% of rm100 AND 7% of rm7?
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post Aug 28 2018, 08:41 PM

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Thanks for the answer to my previous question. I really appreciate it!
So asw2020 only declared 6 sen dividend. Now im worried ASB would declare 6.5 or below dividend this year...
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post Oct 9 2018, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Oct 9 2018, 07:14 PM)
Is anyone else stoked the dividend is only 3 months away?
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I don't know, man. Dividend could be below 7 again I think... Can't really feel stoked about it

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post Nov 10 2018, 08:12 PM

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Hi @haziqnet and the rest. May I know the current rate for asb loan, preferably from Cimb/affin/bsn. Many thanks guys!
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post Dec 4 2018, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Dec 4 2018, 07:04 PM)
Im stoked. Hahah..looking at this year klci graph look not too good in my opinion. However we dun know how much it impact to the actual nav price in asb. Hopefully the nav drop is not too significant and pnb still can give the same dividend like last year at least.

However if its still going low, not lower than 6.5 cents. Hehe
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May I know why it wont be lower than 6.5 cent?
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post Dec 4 2018, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 4 2018, 08:02 PM)
1. No one knows if it will or it will not, just a speculation

2. ASNB may not want to have an impression that they are running out of money.

3. They have reserves to cover these shortfalls, that is how ASB fixed funds operate, they always give dividends even when the country's economic outlook isn't too swell

4. I hope they don't cook their books to give us this dividend though, unlike the alleged TH
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Yeah hopefully what happened to TH wont happen to ASB.

I actually asked the previous question because, when I ran some calculation, I found that (with loan interest 4.8%), 6.4-6.6 cents dividen is the thereshold where asbf starts to be more profitable than self-contribute each month.

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