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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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Ulysses
post Dec 11 2012, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 11 2012, 07:24 AM)
Your Simpan sendiri term here not FD right ?
Not really true, it depend how you manage your investment


Added on December 11, 2012, 7:25 am

Oops my mistake wrongly spell
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I read here

http://canyouberich.blogspot.com/2011/11/a...u-asb-loan.html

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http://beritasemasa.com/pelaburan-pinjaman-asb-asb-loan
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post Dec 11 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ulysses @ Dec 11 2012, 07:26 AM)
the advantage of loan is because of the "bulk" money right? so the dividend will be higher.

hmm, i wonder how to calculate the dividend if we invest in asb using our own money (using ddi)? let say i put RM100 every month in my asb starting January 2012, so in January 2013 i will have RM1300. so when pnb announce the dividend for that year is 8%, i wont get .08 x 1300 = 104 right? is there any formula for using monthly debit like this?

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post Dec 11 2012, 02:02 PM

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what does this base lending rate means?
i saw a lot at home loan and asb loan...sorry...im a newbie...
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 11 2012, 09:56 AM)
its base on the MINIMUM amount in your asb account every month, prorated.

lets say you invest rm100 every month, starting with rm0 in the 1st month, and assume u get the dividend in the 13th month (assume PNB announce 10% dividend).

1st mth = 0 , dividend = rm 0
2nd mth = 100 , dividend = (10%*100)/12 = rm0.83
3rd mth = 200 , dividend = rm 1.67

You do the math on the remaining months. Dividend you will only receive when PNB announce the dividend, so you total out the supposed dividend you receive every mth

sifus pls correct me if i'm wrong  blush.gif
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thanks for the formula. i think its correct. btw, i found this asb dividend calculator: calculator


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post Dec 11 2012, 05:22 PM

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I just ask the loan officer they said upfront payment around RM70 then they will help to get the loan for you
Im thinking getting 100k loan for 20 yr
After the calculation approximately 10yr to get 100k but have to struggle paying 660/month for 1st year but it worth it smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 11 2012, 05:37 PM)
wahh got upfront fee?
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is this real?
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post Dec 11 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(rosihan @ Dec 11 2012, 05:22 PM)
I just ask the loan officer they said upfront payment around RM70 then they will help to get the loan for you
Im thinking getting 100k loan for 20 yr
After the calculation approximately 10yr to get 100k but have to struggle paying 660/month for 1st year but it worth it smile.gif
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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 11 2012, 05:37 PM)
wahh got upfront fee?
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be careful when u choosing your word to inform others
it may cause misleading info
upfront fee is different, people can assume it as different "upfront" or bribe
the actual fee is PROCESSING FEE. its not that expensive and should be less than rm100.
other than that, u also need to pay insurance for secure your loan.


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post Dec 11 2012, 09:48 PM

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If u are comparing between investing in ASB Loan and "simpan sendiri",
it is much better for "simpan sendiri"
why?
For ASB Loan, every month u save your money, is for loan repayment. it is not gonna deposit into your ASB account. therefore, u cant withdraw the money when u need it. Imagine, when it comes to emergency or crisis, the whole sump of money u save is not there. U only need to wait until end of the financial year to collect the dividend.

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post Dec 11 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Dec 9 2012, 02:46 PM)
let say u have rm10,000 in your current ASB saving account.
u apply a RM200,000 loan from ASB
when your ASB loan is approve, bank will issue a certificate of saving RM200,000.
that means now your ASB have RM10,000 of your saving and RM200,000 of certificate.
at the end of the year, which is financial closing, u will get your dividend based on RM10,000 + RM200,000.
but in your book, the amount that appear is only RM10,000 + total dividend.
the RM200,000 will never appear in your book unless the tenure ended.
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thanks..i've received the call from bank that my loan has approved..
but the banker told me to transfer my current ASB saving to other account because 200k is the maximum amount for ASB..
not sure which one is right rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 11 2012, 10:53 PM)
usually how much is the insurance? pay lump sum or included in loan? the higher the loan amount, the higher insurance need to be paid?  rclxub.gif
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i am not sure how much for the insurance, but if am not mistaken its based on your loan amount
i forgot bout it. need to refer back my previously signed ASB loan contract.
but the amount of the insurance is added onto your loan
let say u want to have ASB loan amounting of RM50k, then your total loan would be RM50K + insurance + interest.
eventually, your monthly repayment will include loan, interest and insurance as well.
only the PROCESSING FEE need to pay cash.
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QUOTE(am33r @ Dec 11 2012, 11:24 PM)
thanks..i've received the call from bank that my loan has approved..
but the banker told me to transfer my current ASB saving to other account because 200k is the maximum amount for ASB..
not sure which one is right  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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owh. sorry for forget to inform u guys earlier.
there is maximum limit for ASB account set by the government.
u may consider it as u have reached maximum quota for single bumiputra.
one single person only allowed to invest maximum of RM200k.
if u already have your own saving, you should not have more than RM200k in your same account.

in your case, i would advise u to withdraw your current ASB saving into fix deposit account.
for more benefit, transfer your current ASB saving into your family's account, keep it in your parent's account or brother/sister.
just dont forget to collect your dividend and avoid being mixed up with their saving tongue.gif
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post Dec 12 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Dec 11 2012, 11:50 PM)
owh. sorry for forget to inform u guys earlier.
there is maximum limit for ASB account set by the government.
u may consider it as u have reached maximum quota for single bumiputra.
one single person only allowed to invest maximum of RM200k.
if u already have your own saving, you should not have more than RM200k in your same account.

in your case, i would advise u to withdraw your current ASB saving into fix deposit account.
for more benefit, transfer your current ASB saving into your family's account, keep it in your parent's account or brother/sister.
just dont forget to collect your dividend and avoid being mixed up with their saving tongue.gif
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yup...i just knew that a few days ago..huhu
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post Dec 12 2012, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Dec 11 2012, 11:50 PM)
owh. sorry for forget to inform u guys earlier.
there is maximum limit for ASB account set by the government.
u may consider it as u have reached maximum quota for single bumiputra.
one single person only allowed to invest maximum of RM200k.
if u already have your own saving, you should not have more than RM200k in your same account.

in your case, i would advise u to withdraw your current ASB saving into fix deposit account.
for more benefit, transfer your current ASB saving into your family's account, keep it in your parent's account or brother/sister.
just dont forget to collect your dividend and avoid being mixed up with their saving tongue.gif
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thanks for the advice boss.. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 12 2012, 05:05 AM

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How bout the requirements to qualify to take the loan?
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post Dec 12 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(am33r @ Dec 9 2012, 12:38 PM)
Sorry for noob question..If plan to take 200k loan from ASB, do I need to transfer my current saving in ASB to other account? Or just need to top up the balance to make it 200k?
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Max for ASB is RM200K, should you have balance inside, can transfer to other type like Wawasan/Didik. Once trnasfer, you can apply 200K loan


Added on December 12, 2012, 11:09 am
QUOTE(tom_87 @ Dec 12 2012, 05:05 AM)
How bout the requirements to qualify to take the loan?
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ASB loan is partly under purview of responsible financing, thus, total deduction of commitment cant exceed 70% of net income per MBB guideline


Added on December 12, 2012, 11:16 am
QUOTE(suadrif @ Dec 9 2012, 02:46 PM)
let say u have rm10,000 in your current ASB saving account.
u apply a RM200,000 loan from ASB
when your ASB loan is approve, bank will issue a certificate of saving RM200,000.
that means now your ASB have RM10,000 of your saving and RM200,000 of certificate.
at the end of the year, which is financial closing,.  u will get your dividend based on RM10,000 + RM200,000.
but in your book, the amount that appear is only RM10,000 + total dividend.
the RM200,000 will never appear in your book unless the tenure ended.
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As max per individual is RM200K, you have to transfer the saivngs to other fund before new certificate of RM200K can be issued.
on 2/1/13, dividend will appear on ASB passbook. Loan details will not be shown.


Added on December 12, 2012, 11:17 am
QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 10 2012, 03:06 PM)
thanks. btw got islamic loan for asb?  blush.gif
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Yes, at this moment, only MBB offer.


Added on December 12, 2012, 11:26 am
QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 11 2012, 07:19 AM)
Yup a friend of mine work in banking firm might as well unable to explain to me how the interest calculation he only provide the schedule table and when i asking the calculation formula, i gave me the formula i say wow song long and complex. the interest calculated isn't fix monthly. i wonder sometimes higher sometimes lower. if you read back this thread start from the very beginning you'll may found their provided calculation isn't accurate. other than you follow respective banks' interest schedule and it may change from time to time.


Added on December 11, 2012, 7:21 am

as far as i know ASB loan you can only take out the dividend not the loan amount until you fully settle your loan repayment caused your asb passbook all you can see is your own deposit $ and dividend except the loan amount.

BLR = Base Leading Rate
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Well, the instalment of ASB is just the same as housing loan. You may download those apps for instalment calculation and i am sure most banks' computation is almost similiar.

Difference on own savings and asb loan :-

savings per mth : RM200 or RM2,400/yr, dividend : RM2,400 x 8% (example), net RM192.

asb loan : RM200 (instalment, RM35K for 25 yrs), dividend : RM35,000 x 8% = RM2,800 - RM2,400, net RM400

Difference : RM208/yr.

Both are equivalent, provided BLR & payout rate remain above 8%, instalment is prompt.


Added on December 16, 2012, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(tom_87 @ Dec 12 2012, 05:05 AM)
How bout the requirements to qualify to take the loan?
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max repayment on all loan not more than 70% of net income..

This post has been edited by KH_Yulek: Dec 16 2012, 02:21 PM
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post Jan 3 2013, 03:28 AM

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Hello all sifus...

this is the first time I've taken a loan for asb.my noob question is, can I setel my hutang in large sum instead of monthly payment for 25 years?i mean settle my loan earlier than expected.say if I kena durian runtuh,can I do so?any penalty?or am i tied to that 25 years?

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QUOTE(mh_one983 @ Jan 3 2013, 03:28 AM)
Hello all sifus...

this is the first time I've taken a loan for asb.my noob question is, can I setel my hutang in large sum instead of monthly payment for 25 years?i mean settle my loan earlier than expected.say if I kena durian runtuh,can I do so?any penalty?or am i tied to that 25 years?

thank you.
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Most bank impose lock in period. So long it expires you may settle the loan in full
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post Jan 3 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Dec 11 2012, 11:50 PM)
owh. sorry for forget to inform u guys earlier.
there is maximum limit for ASB account set by the government.
u may consider it as u have reached maximum quota for single bumiputra.
one single person only allowed to invest maximum of RM200k.
if u already have your own saving, you should not have more than RM200k in your same account.

in your case, i would advise u to withdraw your current ASB saving into fix deposit account.
for more benefit, transfer your current ASB saving into your family's account, keep it in your parent's account or brother/sister.
just dont forget to collect your dividend and avoid being mixed up with their saving tongue.gif
Not exactly correct. Your limit is 200K invested amount. This does not include the dividends you have earned every year. So if you already have say 50K in your ASB account, you need to check with the ASB agent how much of that amount is the principle investment. You only need to take out this amount in order to 'reset' your ASB account to zero principle. The dividends gained over the years can still remain without affecting your total ASB loan.

In fact, the correct method would be for you to confirm the original principle investment amount and then adjust the loan amount to suit. Meaning that if you have already invested 20K in your ASB over the years, then you need to only take a 180K loan to max the account instead of 200K which just gives the bank more earnings.

For those who have maxed the account, you cant invest any more funds into the account. But your dividends will continue to accumulate yearly so the total amount in your ASB account can be >200K with no upper limit.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jan 3 2013, 03:09 PM
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post Jan 3 2013, 04:25 PM

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So how much money do I need to pay upfront in order to make my ASB loan run on autopilot? Last time I didn't buy it when bankers persuade me to get loan for asb. But after I read thru this thread I know how this asb loan can be benifited for me.

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post Jan 3 2013, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 3 2013, 03:06 PM)
Not exactly correct. Your limit is 200K invested amount. This does not include the dividends you have earned every year. So if you already have say 50K in your ASB account, you need to check with the ASB agent how much of that amount is the principle investment. You only need to take out this amount in order to 'reset' your ASB account to zero principle. The dividends gained over the years can still remain without affecting your total ASB loan.

In fact, the correct method would be for you to confirm the original principle investment amount and then adjust the loan amount to suit. Meaning that if you have already invested 20K in your ASB over the years, then you need to only take a 180K loan to max the account instead of 200K which just gives the bank more earnings.

For those who have maxed the account, you cant invest any more funds into the account. But your dividends will continue to accumulate yearly so the total amount in your ASB account can be >200K with no upper limit.
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thats correct
thanks for adding points.
i didnt put it as detail as it is and just answering his question in general biggrin.gif

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