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post Apr 4 2012, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(andrewleewaikeong @ Mar 23 2012, 01:20 PM)
only bumiputra is able to apply right ? then there is total no chance for us chinese and indian right ? no ?
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Its ok bro
U can apply under ASN or AS1M if i m not mistaken
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post Dec 9 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(am33r @ Dec 9 2012, 12:38 PM)
Sorry for noob question..If plan to take 200k loan from ASB, do I need to transfer my current saving in ASB to other account? Or just need to top up the balance to make it 200k?
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let say u have rm10,000 in your current ASB saving account.
u apply a RM200,000 loan from ASB
when your ASB loan is approve, bank will issue a certificate of saving RM200,000.
that means now your ASB have RM10,000 of your saving and RM200,000 of certificate.
at the end of the year, which is financial closing, u will get your dividend based on RM10,000 + RM200,000.
but in your book, the amount that appear is only RM10,000 + total dividend.
the RM200,000 will never appear in your book unless the tenure ended.
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post Dec 11 2012, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 10 2012, 09:21 PM)
how do you calculate ASB loan? is it like property loan, where u pay mostly interest first, then later pay the principal?
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its more like a personal loan but the interest is slightly lower
in term of paying the interest, Yes, u are paying like 80:20 for interest:principal every month
the % for the interest will decreasing over years while % for principal will increase
for me, i assume all loan repayment method is just the same.
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post Dec 11 2012, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Ulysses @ Dec 10 2012, 07:03 PM)
HI.Im quite newbie in these thing. What is FD?
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its a Fix Deposit.
some banks offer a tenure period that u can choose, for example, 3 months, 6months, 12 months and 24 months
u have to deposit a minimum amount of saving, for example, RM1000 to open a FD account
within the tenure period, u are not allowed to withdraw your saving even 1 cent.
however, in return, u get a higher interest per annum. at the end of tenure period, u will get your principal + interest.
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post Dec 11 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 11 2012, 12:08 AM)
the ASB loan from bank quite confusing m not sure how they calculate and come out with the figure so i jz follow the schedule replayment
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same goes to me.
i pay as what as been schedule by the bank
but if u track back your repayment schedule, every month u were charged interest differently
the interest amount is different every single month
as for me, my interest every month was like RM250 (January), RM299 (February), RM248 (March), RM287 (April), RM245 (May), RM286 (June)
as u can see, the interest is up down up down up down and not consistently decreasing.
my repayment schedule is fixed, RM300++ every month and i did create a schedule transaction for that.
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post Dec 11 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(rosihan @ Dec 11 2012, 05:22 PM)
I just ask the loan officer they said upfront payment around RM70 then they will help to get the loan for you
Im thinking getting 100k loan for 20 yr
After the calculation approximately 10yr to get 100k but have to struggle paying 660/month for 1st year but it worth it smile.gif
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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 11 2012, 05:37 PM)
wahh got upfront fee?
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be careful when u choosing your word to inform others
it may cause misleading info
upfront fee is different, people can assume it as different "upfront" or bribe
the actual fee is PROCESSING FEE. its not that expensive and should be less than rm100.
other than that, u also need to pay insurance for secure your loan.


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post Dec 11 2012, 09:48 PM

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If u are comparing between investing in ASB Loan and "simpan sendiri",
it is much better for "simpan sendiri"
why?
For ASB Loan, every month u save your money, is for loan repayment. it is not gonna deposit into your ASB account. therefore, u cant withdraw the money when u need it. Imagine, when it comes to emergency or crisis, the whole sump of money u save is not there. U only need to wait until end of the financial year to collect the dividend.

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post Dec 11 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(luqus @ Dec 11 2012, 10:53 PM)
usually how much is the insurance? pay lump sum or included in loan? the higher the loan amount, the higher insurance need to be paid?  rclxub.gif
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i am not sure how much for the insurance, but if am not mistaken its based on your loan amount
i forgot bout it. need to refer back my previously signed ASB loan contract.
but the amount of the insurance is added onto your loan
let say u want to have ASB loan amounting of RM50k, then your total loan would be RM50K + insurance + interest.
eventually, your monthly repayment will include loan, interest and insurance as well.
only the PROCESSING FEE need to pay cash.
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post Dec 11 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(am33r @ Dec 11 2012, 11:24 PM)
thanks..i've received the call from bank that my loan has approved..
but the banker told me to transfer my current ASB saving to other account because 200k is the maximum amount for ASB..
not sure which one is right  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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owh. sorry for forget to inform u guys earlier.
there is maximum limit for ASB account set by the government.
u may consider it as u have reached maximum quota for single bumiputra.
one single person only allowed to invest maximum of RM200k.
if u already have your own saving, you should not have more than RM200k in your same account.

in your case, i would advise u to withdraw your current ASB saving into fix deposit account.
for more benefit, transfer your current ASB saving into your family's account, keep it in your parent's account or brother/sister.
just dont forget to collect your dividend and avoid being mixed up with their saving tongue.gif
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post Jan 3 2013, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 3 2013, 03:06 PM)
Not exactly correct. Your limit is 200K invested amount. This does not include the dividends you have earned every year. So if you already have say 50K in your ASB account, you need to check with the ASB agent how much of that amount is the principle investment. You only need to take out this amount in order to 'reset' your ASB account to zero principle. The dividends gained over the years can still remain without affecting your total ASB loan.

In fact, the correct method would be for you to confirm the original principle investment amount and then adjust the loan amount to suit. Meaning that if you have already invested 20K in your ASB over the years, then you need to only take a 180K loan to max the account instead of 200K which just gives the bank more earnings.

For those who have maxed the account, you cant invest any more funds into the account. But your dividends will continue to accumulate yearly so the total amount in your ASB account can be >200K with no upper limit.
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thats correct
thanks for adding points.
i didnt put it as detail as it is and just answering his question in general biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Jul 18 2013, 10:44 AM)
i think better u saving urself.. my 1/2 cents  blush.gif
coz u can use your 1667/month to lasb y not to ur ownself saving.

5 years u can reach 100k.

here the schedule [URL=http://brunialamira.blogspot.com/p/jadual-simpan-asb.html] (my schedule  brows.gif  )
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if u have money, self saving is definitely better compared to ASB Loan since u dont have to bear the loan interest
if u dump your money in ASB RM100k, at the end of year u will get full dividend 7%
if u get an ASB loan RM100k, at the end of year u will get dividend 7% minus loan interest 4-5% which mean u only enjoy 2-3%.
but in real case, there's not many person that have rm100k cash in saving. thats why they prefer ASB loan.
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post Aug 1 2013, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jul 31 2013, 06:21 AM)
so fast changing mind ... biggrin.gif ..

For me, ASB loan is good with this mindset: "susah susah dahulu, senang senang kemudian". Pay the loan for 1st year and wait for 24 years to get money. biggrin.gif.

I have a tips not "too struggle" in first year. If you want to get ASB loan, mid year is always the best time to get it.

Some wonder why?
Answer is you actually pay half of monthly commitment but it takes one and half a year.

Some wonder how?
Pay monthly commitment with dividend in second year.

Some still wonder how?
My calculate is when apply in June 2013 and my first payment will be due in July. July-December 2013, you are earning dividend. I myself took 200k loan for 25 years and paying RM1190 monthly till December. In early January 2014, I will get dividend, say 8%, I will have RM8000.

Use the dividend as monthly "subsidy". RM8000/12 = RM666

So, my payment on January-December 2014 that I USE MY OWN MONEY is: RM1190-RM666 = RM524!

Based on record, January 2015 onwards till the rest of tenure, I spend RM0 of my own pocket and get RM200k at the end of tenure. Sounds a good deal? Definitely!

ASB never fail to pay dividend at least 7-8% a year. Based on record for 20 years, we are pretty safe but anything can happen in the future. As for now, take the opportunity. Malay is  a bit lucky in this country. If ASB open to non bumi, I guess, ASB will be fully subscribe in no time. smile.gif.
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i think u miscalculate one thing which is prorate.
ASB dividen is distributed based on prorate.
if u get your ASB loan certificate in the middle of june, u are actually gain 7% interest only for 6 months, not full dividend.
its a rule of thumb for every bank and every financial institution. there's no way these companies will pay full amount.
if your theory is really true, then the best way is to get the ASB loan certificate on November! u pay for 1 month for december and u get interest for RM200k in january shocking.gif but there is no possibility to happen
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QUOTE(abcde90 @ Jul 31 2013, 07:03 PM)
If asb profit is less than 7% so whats the strategy?
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Jul 31 2013, 10:37 PM)
How about if blr raise..? Do we have plan b to avoid blr effect to lasb roi or revenue of dividen.

I want to know olso..
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at the end of year, ASB will distribute dividend + bonus. even if BLR is less than 7%, u still get profit from bonus.
dividend % is calculated base on yearly account which is interest % x months of saving for one year
bonus % is calculated base on certain period which is from last 5 years of saving x interest %.
therefore, even though the BLR is equal to 7%, u can still gain minor profit from ASB bonus.
but of course, to avoid the risk, its good to cancel the ASB loan if BLR goes lower than that.
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post Aug 3 2013, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Aug 2 2013, 04:50 PM)
taking 100k for 10 yrs or 200k for 25 yrs? which is better?
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for investment, u always and always look for higher return with minimum monthly commitment.
take longer contract period so that u can minimize your monthly payment
take higher amount so that u can gain higher profit at the end of financial year
dont rush to settle the ASB loan.
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post Feb 1 2016, 08:14 PM

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If I m going to cancel asb loan, should I go to any branch?
Or I need to go back to issuing branch?
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post Mar 31 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 24 2017, 10:56 PM)
Every extra payment u make for your loan will consider as advance payment but you must notify the bank first. Yes its the same like housing loan. At one time u will pay more than the interest. But in asb what you pay (principal) u will get back.
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any specific reason to notify bank?
from what i know is you must notify bank if u want to make advance payment for your principal amount
if do advance payment without notifying, the extra automatically considered as payment for next following month.

if not, where would the extra money go?
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post Mar 31 2017, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 31 2017, 01:02 PM)
Every extra payment u make will carry forward to the next month

For example your loan 1100 and u pay 1300 the 200 will carry forward to the next month (only need to pay 900) It will not reduce your principal like housing loan.

Sorry u dun need to notify the bank. Asb loan use the same effective rate like housing loan but different terms.
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thanks on clearing the confusion.
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post Apr 12 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Musikl @ Apr 10 2017, 03:30 PM)
Lol still on going? Last month they were like, you need to hurry because this promo is only for this month!!
This month my ass.
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actually what they said is true
ASB2 fund is closing already. allocation is full.
might not last to end of this month.
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QUOTE(epie @ Nov 27 2017, 10:33 AM)
just for info

RHB ASB2 rate 4.5%
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Any link?
How long is this promo?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 10 2018, 05:46 PM)
I can help with MBB and CIMB, it is 4.9% (promo extended) and 5.05% respectively.
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what's the catch with MBB promo?
takaful compulsory and lock in period?

CIMB i know got minimum limit and must be standing instruction

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