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SuN_RaE198
post Nov 18 2008, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Akane @ Nov 18 2008, 07:50 PM)
Hi Miss Tedious. I am your seniorest- senior, as I am proceeding into Year 3 Semester 2, during January 2009. However, I will finish up my study in FES, Setapak, while you guyz will do it in Kampar, Perak.

Biochemistry timetable is much lighter compared to Biomedic, but is definitely heavier compared to Biotech. During year 1, you will have to attend around 18 hours (lecture + tutorial) + around 4-6 hours (lab) per week. Year 2 is abit more stressful, as you will take up some core subjects and hence around 22 hours (lecture + tutorial) and 6-8 hours (lab) per week. Year 3 gives you more freedom, but that will take up around 15 hours (lecture + tutorial) and 2-4 hours for labs.
There should be 2 address, permanent address and current address. The current address should be your location when you are studying in Kampar, while your permanent address should be your own home. You have to pass up most of the stuff during the registration day. However, the PTPTN form would be passed up during one specific date after the PTPTN briefing.

Dont worry about the accreditation. I am one of the student who went through the accreditation process and I am sure we have a high chance to get the accreditation. So far, I have yet to hear any course in FES failed to get accreditation.
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 18 2008, 09:11 PM)
Hi Akane. Our seniorest-senior XD. I was wondering if you undergo any industrial training for biochemistry and how many credit hour are we suppose to have to graduate. Is it compulsory to take pengajian malaysia? The letter said that we can take out some subject if we wanted.

Thank you so much for your time.
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There's industrial training for Biochemistry, but currently it isnt compulsary, not included into the credit hours calculation.

You can get exemptions for Pengajian Malaysia if you have taken it previously, eg during Alevels. smile.gif

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post Nov 18 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Miss Terious @ Nov 18 2008, 10:23 PM)
Okay. So we'd have to apply for exemption before we have to take the classes. Meaning to say in my case, I would have to apply for exemption for only Pengajian Malaysia upon entry and exemption for Pendidikan Moral the next year. Did I get it right?

Oh dear. I hope they do not change the system too much. I hope it is for the better, not the worse. It makes me cringe when somebody says that. biggrin.gif No idea why.

Thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate it. smile.gif
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Yup, ur right. During our time we had to apply at the beginning of each semester, but things might have changed, so you better check when school starts. smile.gif

QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 18 2008, 10:31 PM)
Haha, I'm not Neko guy. XD Oh so the industrial training can be chosen from a list or find it yourself. That's really nice. Working in NUS must be some experience and working in Sime Darby, such a famous company. Wow. How long is the industrial training? 3 months?

Aw man, I have to take Pengajian Malaysia and I thought I can skip it. I have enough of it in pengajian am. All the laws and Malaysia politics stuff. T_T I just want to ask about the exam. The thing you have study for the semester is what will be tested right? And the next sem, you won't have to be tested on the thing you did last sem right?

What about the credit hour? Are we suppose to reach a certain credit hour to graduate because that's what I heard from my friend in public uni. They need to get at least 110 credit hours to graduate.
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Standard industrial training for bioscience courses is 8weeks, but it can be longer depending on you and the company. smile.gif

Yup, only the thing you study in that semester will be tested. But of course, you will use some of the knowledge in the earlier semesters when ur in Y2 or Y3.

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post Nov 20 2008, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 20 2008, 11:18 AM)
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Haha. Seriously, it depends on your lecturer. When you are learning Enzymology (year 2), you will be tested on Structural Biochemistry stuff from year 1. When you are doing Proteomics in Year 3, you will be tested on Enzymology from Year 2. Haha. Its a cycle. Things will get related to one another as you study deeper and as you go, you will felt that you are actually studying some similar stuff from previous semesters. So, like I said, if you lecturer is those syiok sendiri type, most probably she/he will come out with questions that is out of expectations.

The credit hour I stated in my previous post is my assumptions. I have no idea how much I have accumulated so far, as I dont remember that, but only my cgpa. Even that, its the first 2 digit that I can remember. Lol.


Thank you so much for the info. It's a big help.

[EDIT]OMG, the new course structure for Biochem...http://www.utar.edu.my/fset/index.jsp?fcatid=84&fcontentid=264&f2ndcontentid=828 I think I'm going to faint now. Instead of 2 semester, there's 3 semester. More elective and language. We have to take "SUN ZI'S ART OF WAR AND BUSINESS STRATEGIES" as well. More credit hours now... rclxub.gif
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Haha..the new course structure totally rocks. There's credit hours counted for industrial training, and the tougher papers are rearranged. tongue.gif dont faint from the biochem course structure, try and compare with biomedical science and see the difference. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 20 2008, 06:13 PM)
Haha and I think there won't be the 3 months sem break now. More courses. It's ok though. Some of the subject seems fun.

Tougher papers rearranged you say?
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yup. the course structure seems to be more relaxing compared to the current structure. also, there are some new subjects which may be useful in the future, such as cell and tissue culture techniques.

we had to endure a semester which consists of microbiology, enzymology, metabolism and genetics in one semester, which should be the toughest semester of all. doh.gif also, although Y1S2 has 20credit hours, the subjects are the relatively easier ones, cell biology and physical chemistry is just a lil harder if not similar to STPM Biology and Chemistry respectively.

yup, with the inclusion of the 3rd semester, there shouldnt be time for 3 months holiday tongue.gif but in a way its good, you get to take more subjects, and the subjects are better spaced out. Good luck in Y2S1 though. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 20 2008, 09:29 PM)
Oh, I realized there is a lot more stuff to study like principles of biotechnology.  And I realized Y2S1 is the one that you say most of the hard subject is situated. Haha. I hope the subject is nearly the same as what I have study in STPM. Haha.

The 3rd semester mostly consisted of elective, industrial training and project and toxicology. I think this will be shorter that the one in sem 1 and 2. I hope so. I wonder what the co-curricular unit is about though. I'm quite excited about the other language subject. Hehe, me gonna choose Jap.

More subjects to study may be a good thing and it is time to work harder than STPM already.
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Dont worry, if you have taken STPM, some of the subjects, especially in Year1 will be easy for you. eg: Cell Biology, Org/Physical Chemistry, perhaps even Enzymology and Metabolism. tongue.gif

3rd semester is the semester at the end of the year, its considered a short semester. smile.gif Short study period, less subjects. Dont know much bout the co-curricular unit though. smile.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Dr@gon @ Nov 25 2008, 02:49 PM)
Not sure about the otehr campuses but here in the Kamapr campus, students have to pay to use the courts in the sport complex while we can use TARC's one or the one in a nearby town for free.  sweat.gif
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laugh.gif TARC KL need to pay but Kampar dont need to?

QUOTE(Miss Terious @ Nov 25 2008, 05:29 PM)
I just realised that the Malaysian Studies and Moral Education subject code in the UTAR timetable for Biochem students is MPW2133 and MPW2153 respectively but the ones I have taken is coded as MPW1133 and MPW1153 (only difference is the number 2 there)

Is there any difference between those two codes or is it the same? Because the subjects are the same.

It's really making me confused. Now I do not know whether I could ask for exemption for this subject or not.

Anyone can help me clarify this matter? Thanks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Dr@gon @ Nov 25 2008, 05:51 PM)
Not quite sure about this but from my observation, the code of subject in Y1 starts with 1, i.e. 1xxx while it is 2xxx for Y2. So I think they are the same but taken in different academic year.
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Yup, ur right. The course code is mostly dependent on the year and semester, its not followed strictly. If you have taken the subject, provided the sylabus is the same, exemptions should be no problem biggrin.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(shimy @ Nov 25 2008, 08:11 PM)
last wed only i sent out de doc n dey shld hv received it ady rite?
i wonder wen is de suitable time 2 call dem up n check ... i scared wen i call dey still processing de doc n i wont get 2 noe whether i got de offer or not ..
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last wed only sent out, so say they receive it by friday.. today is only tuesday. smile.gif if i were you, i'll wait a couple of days more before giving them a call if the website still shows not received.
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post Nov 27 2008, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 26 2008, 11:46 PM)
Ooo wow. I think I'm going to borrow some books from the library and photostat it if it's too expensive to buy a book. I think there's a lot of reading to do and a good book is really needed. Thank you for the info Akane.

While doing lab reports, are you supposed to do it in the lab and hand it on the same day? That was how we did it in form 6 and it sucks. I can't even check my work after finishing and haha, I got so many wrongs sometime but the teacher was nice enough sometime to inform us...But only sometimes...I lost so many marks...Can we partner with someone when writing the report?
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The lab reports might be group during the first sem or two, but will definitely change to individual report. It depends on the lecturer, though it will end up being invidivial reports after awhile. They're better for you actually, wont have the risk of other ppl messing up ur coursework marks. biggrin.gif
The deadline is usually a week after lab.

whistling.gif if u need to borrow books from the library, get it before school starts/first day. otherwise, good luck. biggrin.gif first sem students are always kiasu that way. haha.
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post Nov 27 2008, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 27 2008, 10:05 AM)
Aw...Thanks for the info. Haha library rush. I guess I am one of the kiasu first sem student eh. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Miss Terious @ Nov 27 2008, 12:47 PM)
Haha. Interesting. Kiasu first sem students. I have a feeling I'd be one too. Then everything shall cease slowly by the end of the semester. biggrin.gif

By the way, would you guys be given a detailed syllabus at the start of every semester or you'd just have to sit and wait for what the lecturer would teach?

Or do you have to find for it yourselves online/library/other forms of resources? smile.gif
[See, going "kiasu" already tongue.gif]

Thanks a lot for all the infos. It has been really really helpful. smile.gif
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haha. first sem students are always like that. biggrin.gif after that, it wil slowly dwindle. tongue.gif

the detailed sylabus is available online in the intranet as well smile.gif
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post Nov 27 2008, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(billygoh @ Nov 27 2008, 07:49 PM)
can i know...everyone(chinese) in UTAR all talk mandarin??
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laugh.gif NO. dont worry bout that, if non chinese can fit in, why cant a chinese who doesnt speak mandarin? smile.gif

Anyway, good chance to learn. tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2008, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Miss Terious @ Nov 28 2008, 12:22 PM)
Thanks so much! smile.gif

Oh, I think about the certification, I heard from someone that as long as it is a "grade A" officer, he/she can certify things. I have no idea what a grade A officer is, but I got my own dad to certify some of my certs before (since he had the certifying chop) and I don't think they noticed it. As long as it is certified I don't think there will be a problem. That is only my opinion, mind you. smile.gif

And I thought I was the only "chinese" who don't speak mandarin going to Kampar. Haha. Ada kawan la this. biggrin.gif
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whistling.gif my personal opinion, they dont really care. but again, its only my opinion. biggrin.gif the grade A officer certification is important only if you're applying for govt stuff i guess. so far, utar doesnt place an importance on that.

QUOTE(shimy @ Nov 28 2008, 07:37 PM)
language elective?? wats dat? sumbody mind 2 tell me? sounds interesting ..
yest i got acknowledgement card frm utar asking me 2 send dem certified school leaving cert bt 2day i received de offer letter frm dem,so do i stil nid 2 send dem my certified school leaving cert?? very confusing..
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the new course sylabus has a elective subject where you get to choose a language. smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(shimy @ Dec 5 2008, 09:07 PM)
hey guys ..i cant find my registration no on my bill ...
de only no i saw under de words 'registration no' is my ic no ...is dat de registration no??
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have you paid the bill yet? if you pay in utar directly ur registration number will be shown, but not if u pay in public bank. smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2008, 11:51 PM

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hmm.gif reg number isnt ID number?

haha. my mistake then. IINM, by checking the status online you can know ur id number. but the registration number, reli cant help.
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QUOTE(shimy @ Dec 5 2008, 11:55 PM)
cuz i nid 2 fill up de index card n everythin 2 post it back 2 utar ..
but i got no idea wat 2 put 4 reg.no ..
shld i juz put de ic no which i saw under de words 'reg.no' ???
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registration no should be the ID number, i checked my ID card. biggrin.gif

it should be 09XXX0xxxx. something like that. try checking ur status in the utar website see they got update it or not. last time i think thats how i checked my id number after paying in public bank.
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post Dec 7 2008, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Miss Terious @ Dec 7 2008, 08:44 PM)
okay. this is interesting. and all these while i thought i was the only banana around going to UTAR. haha.

we shall learn mandarin & cantonese together. biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif dont worry, you arent the only banana around. smile.gif there's many in the UTAR thread
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post Dec 28 2008, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(shimy @ Dec 28 2008, 02:02 AM)
y cant v jz gv dem our photo ? y muz dey take our photo themselves? so weird ..

dey ll inform us wen dey nid 2 take our photos rite?
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laugh.gif its possible that its coz some ppl provide weird looking photos for their id, so taking it in utar will standardize the pics? biggrin.gif just my guess.

the dates for photo taking should be in the orientation booklet, or they will let u know during orientation.
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post Jan 7 2009, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(wsf @ Jan 7 2009, 09:08 PM)
Any news of when will Faculty of Science and Engineering be moving to Kampar ? Tried to find out from the staff of Setapak campus, but they seemed to be secretive. Maybe the students or lecturers know about it, any idea?
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which course specifically are you interested in? some have already shifted, while some as still in setapak. smile.gif
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post Jan 10 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Jan 9 2009, 04:02 PM)
Another question:

How do we choose our electives?I've took the form and it doesnt look like a form to choose your electives thou...

The form got the box with the word Add/Drop Unit.
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hmm.gif ru sure its the correct form? i remember the form having the words elective on it.

QUOTE(Nekochan @ Jan 10 2009, 10:12 AM)
Corrupted spirits...Where you got those paper?
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post Apr 13 2009, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(airasia @ Apr 13 2009, 04:20 AM)
Failing rate is high since the exam question are not easy.

20% of the lectural are hopeless. Some just read what they write in their note.

Sometime have part time lectural, so you have night and saturday class.

Some lectural have more than 300 student in 1 semester, so you don't have a real consultation hour.

There always plenty of gaps between class. I used to have 1 class in early morning, 1 in noon and 1 in late evening.

Don't expect first class service, this is a low cost college. All the staff there is just like government servant.

More assignment and presentation if compare to UTAR. Poor and outdated facilities, except the computer lab.

In the end, many things you have to work out yourself in KTAR. Don't so dependent like what you used to be in secondary school.
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