You can get it for RM3k+ nowadays

grey set?

Nope, usually taken out from the 5D II's kit set. I've seen some people selling the 24-105 from their 5D II brand new for about RM3.6-RM3.8k

woah me likey this thread. read from page 1. eyes so like this now ---->

nah... full of poison if you ask me....
those Mod and Admin will tell you all sort of reason to get red rings

waiting for canon to quote on my 70-200 as it has drop. aiyaaa. tearsss

Does 17-55mm & 15-85mm consider as L lens since they can deliver top-tier image quality.

Can anyone give some suggestion?
I am thinking of buying 17-40L for my 60D to replace the kit lens~
What do you guys think?
Is it wasteful L lens on 60D?
Does the L really make different image compare to kit lens?

I would suggest u to buy the 17-55mm as 17-40mmL is not wide enough on a 60D.

17mm vs 17mm on same body and you say is not wide enough?

Err... Isn't the 17mm on the 17-55 f2.8 the same as the 17mm on the 17-40 f4L?
How come one is wider than the other one? O.o

the 17-55 f2.8 is an EF-S lens which means you have to use it on a crop body therefore the 17mm = about 27mm. same if you use the 17-40 at 17mm on a crop body too.

I believe he meant 17mm on a FF body.


p.s. on 2nd reading i think he oso blur. make me blur.




I don't think it's wasteful per se. You just don't get it as wide as ultra wide on 60D. the lens is very sharp. it is F4 only though.

This post has been edited by crocs: Jan 27 2011, 03:50 PM

He stated that on a 60D, which means both lens also 17mm x 1.6 = 27mm

You all dont get me lah....

He mentioned 60D. 60D = APS-C camera = EF-S camera = 1.6x crop body

Then 17-40L is a EF lens, so put it on 60D = 27mm wide only. Unless he put it on 1Ds, then 17mm remains as 17mm.

17-55mm is a EF-S lens, so put in on 60D, it remains 17mm wide.

That's wrong. Consideration of multiplication of the focal length of the lens,with the crop factor(like 1.6x or 1.3x) is dependant on what type of sensor the body is having and NOT the type of lens aka EF-S or EF.

Any lens when paired with a Canon APS-C sensor DSLR, has to multiply with 1.6x regardless of whatever focal length of the lens

17mm on a 17-40L on a 1.6x crop sensor = 27mm
17mm on a 17-40L on a FF sensor DSLR =17mm



This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 27 2011, 04:48 PM

and EF-S lens on crop sensor NEED to multiply too right

Understand the basic concepts first la before recommending ppl to buy L-lens

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jan 27 2011, 05:00 PM

Bro, have u read clearly what I posted?

I said put 17-40mm on 60D, it will become 27mm wide only
Put 17-40mm on 1Ds, it will remain 17mm.

Then if put 17-55mm on 60D, it remains 17mm..

Your whole concept is wrong dude...

Read up what is crop factor.

Edit: this should pretty much explains it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor


This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jan 27 2011, 05:02 PM

Different ppl thinks concepts differently.

The most important thing is my facts are correct, aren't there??

This post has been edited by Jurlique: Jan 27 2011, 05:03 PM