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post Apr 3 2008, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Apr 3 2008, 04:54 PM)
Do we have any Holland share in our market ?
cause they are against the movie made by Dutch on Islam thingy and Dr.M ask everyone to stop trade with the country...
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KLSE doesn't allow cross trade or overseas company listing, so there are no foreign company listing here, except through CWs, but all CWs are concentrated at HK, China and US company shares.

So we don't have Holland share here, but there are plenty of local share can bring you to 'Holland' one. laugh.gif
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 3 2008, 04:55 PM)
lol i wonder how it look like if we have a stock traded at 100.00 tongue.gif

i think highest is BAT, 40++
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Sungei Bagan did trade above 200 back old day, around 220-250 as well as Air Molek (due to low number shares, only about several hundred K shares being issued, old day story) and infamous 'goreng' king Repco also cross 100 mark before. If not mistaken per tick is 50 cents.
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post Apr 3 2008, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 3 2008, 05:00 PM)
uhhh those counter sounds so alien to me... i think i not yet born that time  sweat.gif
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Not that old lah, I am not that old also sweat.gif , just 90's time only. BTW, SBagan still got traded, but Amolek tak pau liao due to winding up.

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 3 2008, 05:02 PM)
wow CALRSBERG goes back to 4.10 (yesterday's closing!)

cherroy has no luck, lelelele tongue.gif
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Yup, never done at 4.00, lowest can get is 4.02 but 4.10 closing just 4 lots done at last minute, fake one. 4.04 should able to get it, may be tomorrow.

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post Apr 3 2008, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 3 2008, 05:18 PM)
Cherroy sounds like in the thirties now. hmm.gif
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Do you think I am in early twenty after already involve in the market for more than 15+ years. biggrin.gif
Then I must started to buy stock at 10 years old. rclxm9.gif

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post Apr 3 2008, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 3 2008, 05:20 PM)
Yes, I picked up carlsberg here and I've seen the good dividend record so this is my long-term buy and safety too.

Genting buying on good fundamentals and future prospects as well as a TP of up to RM 9.00 in the distant future. I have confidence in genting.

Sime and IOI - I think the panic on CPO is not justified. I think the level should stay above RM3100/tonne comfortably this year and also the fact that CPO is coupled with the soybean prices and the soybean needs to adjust up alot otherwise it is not worth it for soybean farmers to plant it when they can shift to corn. Soybean price needs to go up to encourage continued production which is indeed needed and this will help boost CPO too. Currently monitoring soybean and CPO futures for this play.

O n G counters - I see endless good prospects for the future. Crude oil will continue to increase in price and I think can hit $120- $130 per barrel within this year or early next. Just my opinion so i'm bullish on sapcres, ramunia, kencana and dialog.
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About Carlsberg, do remember their financial result is on declining trend due to higher taxes, and rampant smuggling activities as Malaysia is the world second highest imposed tax on alcoholic. That's why it drops from 5.+ to now around 4.00. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it is not good or good. Just don't expect it share can rise like others as this kind of stock is purely on dividend play only, share appreciation won't be too much.

Sime and IOI was trading at near 20x + PER currently prior before recent drop, not that cheap.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 3 2008, 05:24 PM)
cherroy, forgive me
for once, i used to guess that you are in your mid 40's
or perhaps closed to 50, around my dad's age  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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Just started earlier, I have my first trading account when I was 19. rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 3 2008, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 3 2008, 05:29 PM)
cherroy,
is it good to list a company on the stock exchange?
my company auditors have told me pros & cons of listing. but still not so clear. was decided not to list ( at this moment ) because
was told that have to declare alot of other profits and cannot take from left pocket to right pocket. and if listed cannot turn back eazily . i still think listing is worth it. to explain everything would be out of topic in this forum. can i know where  to get more info on to list or not to list?
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It depends. Generally listing is good is when company need to raise massive capital to expand businesses, which is beyond individual ability and ability to absorb the risk.

If a company is running steadily and highly profitable and company doesn't short of fund to expand business or company owner has the ability to finance and able to take the risk, nobody wants to list their company. There are plenty privatisation due to this reason.

So, main point to stay a float is you need to raise capital for business expansion.
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post Apr 3 2008, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 3 2008, 06:31 PM)
company is rolling all cash reserve to maximum.  company is a small finance company. coupled with good market, and good marketing arm, fund is always used to maximum as not to waste on interest paid to bank. (interest paid to bank is in the million range.) raising capital is always a hassle because bank charge high interest and as risk factor is considered, it is not eazy to call for more loan.
due to the crazy expansion, an extra 2x loan from original loan is also not enough to roll for another year( given the fact that we are still expanding). the practice now is trimming sales to fit capacity and allowing big boys financing company to eat some of our higher risk group. - (the whole gang is here for a meeting.. bye)

sorry for this off topic  - can i email rather than post in forum..  malu la talk too much on off topic issues..
the only friends i have in thailand is this forum ..  nod.gif  nod.gif  (seriously)
(in share trading , for me to go for dividend yield reit counters of 7-9% is not an option because company guaranteed return is more  smile.gif  )

have a nice rest...  and happy shopping tomorrow...
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You can post as link for us to read as well. Informative articles always will be benefitting to all.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 3 2008, 07:41 PM)
cherroy,

Of course, if the person is non-bumi, you lose 30% of your company after you listed.  That has to be taken into consideration.

Dreamer
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Noted, smile.gif it is the 'cost' of listing in KLSE. That's why we don't find those FDI company want to list here which resulted not many real big cap we can choose from this market.
I remember one big hardisk company in JB (quite big, at least can make it 30 biggest in KLSE) intends to list its company in KLSE which is scheduled to list last year end, but since after due to 'some reason', no news until now, probably will go to list in SIngapore now. Just my guess.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 3 2008, 09:20 PM)
not a very good sign...
DJ Futures -68.00

more news at:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...Q&refer=futures
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US people last night have some bad dream, so mood change liao. biggrin.gif

Jobless claim in US when recession always shoot up to more than 400k one. No that surprise either.
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post Apr 4 2008, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 4 2008, 11:07 AM)
cheng ming so big one meh?
holiday?
sai mm sai oh...
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Yes, it is officially a public holiday in HK.

KLSE also partly holiday today, look at the volume already known. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:39 AM)
green but with no or slow movement, yawn yawn

probably the selling pressure on heavy weights have stopped, but not much buying yet, that's why volume so low
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The green is done by a lot of '1 lot' at heavy weight. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Apr 4 2008, 10:22 AM)
Well, I am not Q-ing for anything today as it's too slow and I like to have peaceful weekend.    Unless there is some movement in AmFirst.    tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Amfirst hasn't traded much recent few days back. The chance of getting some lower price probably at 0.85-0.86 region, if someone eager to sell, otherwise, no trade at all.

Also, Amfirst just acquire Summit USJ for its newer portfolio, so surely support at a bit mah. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 4 2008, 11:24 AM)
never have the exp of subscribing IPO...
i thought is not easy to get?
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If it is easy to get one, without balloting, then it would open at below IPO price liao. laugh.gif <-- no demand mah.

Typically classic example would be Timecom, you apply how many, give you how many, still lots of its IPO shares hadn't been subscribed, at the end EPF and investment banks need to underwrote the rest.

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post Apr 4 2008, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 4 2008, 11:53 AM)
erm it is not?  hmm.gif
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The WaSeong-WA is given free as attached with the right issue you bought. You lose on right issue side but gain on the warrant side, so somehow breakeven only.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 4 2008, 02:56 PM)
master cherroy, what is your comment on this? .. biggrin.gif ..
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Although I got master degree, I am not the 'master' as you called. biggrin.gif

No comment on that, not familiar with those IPO nor interested in IPO either.

IPO is more like trying your luck, not much fundamental side of play, there is no guarantee you will get it either.

jf technology? Mesdaq?

If Mesdaq, most Mesdaq IPO lately are not doing well except a few. So judge you own if you want to try your luck.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 4 2008, 03:09 PM)
@alivecmh

what did you say about the job data in msn just now? i closed the window edy. the jobless data rose? means more downside in U.S tonite?
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Jobless claim last night shoot over 400K since 2005. Only recession time, jobless claim will be over 400K.

Tonight is job employment data aka how many job being created or loss. Market mostly expected a 60K job loss.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 4 2008, 03:13 PM)
wow we have a MBA here rclxms.gif

cherroy are you married or attached?  brows.gif
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Not MBA, but MSc. I am engineering based. But financial knowledge might be better than engineering. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

OT liao icon_idea.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 4 2008, 03:08 PM)
ei...u still eat 'goreng' food ar...bad for health leh! hehehehhe.....

KLCI starts pouring blood liao....
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Goreng food more tasty brows.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 4 2008, 03:35 PM)
Cherroy may get pressured oh.....
cannot deliver proper shares advice anymore laugh.gif

Added on April 4, 2008, 3:37 pm

some tech stocks may be good, you should check the detailed prospectus before deciding to buy/cancel.
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LOL, try to pressure me? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

I have Panasonic in the bag already
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Yup, this is the right way to do.
But still it is not guarateed you would get the IPO as well. So I personally view it as lucky draw only, that's why no bother too much. When I was 'fresh' in stock market, I also applied this, applied that IPO, hope can get some and make some instant profit but as time goes, get bored already.

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 4 2008, 03:57 PM)
maybe the 'gain' is already not significant fr IPO for our "Master" Cherroy! heheheh tongue.gif
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Not actually, when you hit 50 times also haven't got once, and at 51st time finally get it, but IPO opening flat only then surely 'bored' liao.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 4 2008, 04:06 PM)
Now the forum can be renamed Cupid Exchange  rclxub.gif
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haha, it sum up the bore-ness for the market today. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 4 2008, 05:34 PM)
check my previous post...hehehe...they r making ic chips for coffee makers xported to europe n US...dividen TE quite attractive but lately revenue hit by greenback drop .....
price going down lately but has been stabilized.....

today some ppl sold at 1.9...tot can buy around this price...who knows cheat ppl one....all wanna sell at 2! hahahaha.....patient patient...i'll be waiting again....

if IOICORP drop below 6.5...i might get my 1st Palm oil counter! hehehhe

Added on April 4, 2008, 5:35 pmbye bye ppl....have a nice weekend!
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You take 6.50 then I wait 5.60 then, haha.

Also interested in Sime if drop below 8.00

Just some nonsense talk from me. icon_rolleyes.gif
Didn't get my Carlsberg today.

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QUOTE(DJWC @ Apr 4 2008, 05:38 PM)
hi all how abt carlsberg? Im looking its dividend. Is it a good target? Tq
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Purely dividend, still ok, but looking for the share to go up 20-30% one, Carlsberg might not a good choice.

Alcoholic business is a bit streched and under pressure for the last 1-2 years time, especially Carlsberg as some market share being 'eaten' by Guiness through Tiger Beer.

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