Hi! I'm a beginner here. Planning to get a set of drumset to improve my skill.
Any idea on what kinda drumset should i get?
Pearl, Tama, Yamaha?
what model and price?
tama imperialstar izit okay?
i prefer pearl, but then any nice model for beginner?

About cymbals, what brand is okay for a beginner?
stagg, sabian, zildjian, paiste?
and also what type n size of cymbals?
china, crash, splash, ride?
how abt the price?

a beginner set consists of wut 1?
5-piece drumset with crash n ride cymbals?
or maybe more cymbals?

oh yeah, where can i get drumset with a reasonable price?
cuz i saw the price selling in bently quite pricey...

i hope you guys can help on this..thx!

p.s. I prefer black color drumset.. lolx...

haha. nice question here. try and ask nintendo. he spent the last few months answering those question. go and pm him. heck, i guess he'll be reading this in few hours. lol

just my opponion, no point getting good drum sets if you using it for practicing unless for performance... if you have the money go for yamaha or roland electric drum as it wont disturb your neighbour cuz can adjust the volume or use head-phone but you wont have the feel when you hitting it... it cost around 3-4k...

This post has been edited by jlce10: Mar 21 2008, 10:27 PM

I'm no drummer, but my principle on starting out on any instrument is the same. Go for the cheapest you can find. And then after you know what you need to get, get it straight away. No point wasting money buying a "decent" beginners kit.

That being said, i mean of course the cheapest proper drum kit and not some plastic toy you get from toysrus.

buying electric drums no feeling playing lar..
haha...

any drummers out there can teach me how to get rid of annoying your neighbours?
adding mutepad? other than that?

any 1 knows where to get Pearl Forum or Tama Swingstar?
for beginner, i think these will suit,rite?
wut's the price for these?
where can get?

soree 4 askin 2 much..
really need guidance from u all...

get rid of annoying neighbours? if you're the one hitting the drums, then ur the annoying one la dude. go and ask your whole neighbourhood. ppl will start identifying you as the one that hits the drums. and i have my fair share on this. lol. and i do think mutepads are the most efficient and cheap way. its either u mute the drums, or buy earplugs for others. haha. to make your room soundproof? u can get at least another two or three decent kits. so, its not worth it if your intention is to practice.

and if youre really want to get a cheap decent set, i would suggest u to go with pdp ez series. js music have one on display and u can try, hit, bang, bash, or whatever u do when testing a kit. theyve changed the skins and for practice, i personally think its worth it. price? can get it for 1250 or less. much cheaper then other entry lvl kit. try posting under the drummers thread. i think ull get more replies there.

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you misread his post. he said getting rid of annoying HIS neighbours.
meaning he's being considerate.

oh and from what i learned from playing guitar hero, if your neighbours complain about your volume, turn it up even more and drive them away

i find better pleasure hitting those rubber mats on the electric drums...I feel more bouncy haha

You gots a few choices actually....

Ludwig has a pretty good entry level drum kit... the Ludwig Accent Combo CS available at bentley's for bout RM1600++..... made of selected veneer hardwoods and with ludwig hardware...its a good choice... get some remo heads and some good cymbals and you've got a nice kit

The Pearl Forum is a really good choice (i have one)
it sounds really nice...i bought mine secondhand with sabian B8's and an xs20 crash.... (buying secondhand is a good idea, assuming the items in good condition [you can get nicer kits for cheaper]) this is recommended

If you have a bit more cash to burn get a Pearl Export cos it has more precise bearing edges, wood hoops, better hardware...etc
provided you can find them though.... theyve been recently discontinued but since its the most top-selling drumset of ALL TIME, it could be worth alot someday

If you've REALLY got low cash, get a peace or something but i HIGHLY recommend you get something slightly better if you're serious abt drums. cos you dont want to get something that you'll regret later on.

The Imperialstar is a good choice. No cymbals though (try to get some good bronze/brass cymbals secondhand) it has 100% glued wraps, Accu-tune bass drum hoops, smaller lugs and won best drumset of the summer NAMM show 2007...... a VERY good choice... (apparently much better than the discontinues swingstar)

Yamaha makes good drumsets with good sturdy hardware. The Rydeen is a good drumset, just ask many of the people in LYN..... im not a fan of yamaha though...so i went with Pearl...

PDP is good too..... the EZ series is oretty good but apparently flimsy hardware (right?) and crap cymbals.... but a good beginner drumset nonetheless.. if you want a entry level PDP with DW-like features, check out the EX series (oval lugs, RIMS mounting, better hardware) for RM2400 with cymbals (ask boyboy~~ for the seller)

if you want an electronic drumset with a real-feel, check out the Alesis DM5 pro kit fitted with real remo drumheads.... using the famous Alesis DM5 Module has ALOT of sounds and is VERY customizable. RM2900++

On Jamtank.com's forums i saw a sonor force 507 which is a good entry level kit from sonor which is a trusted brand.... using its Force hardware and Basswood shells, it should be good. ONLY RM2150 but its pretty good for german-built quality =) PM me for the link if ur interested

not forgetting Mapex which is known for their Good quality woods and hardware at reasonable prices.... at good quality.
the V series is the cheapest with 9 ply basswood shells and remo heads. spend abit more and you can get the Q series which is a pretty good upgrade....

for cymbals however is really different... even the best brands can sound not as good as lower brands.... for instance, Sabian Solars sound REALLY bad..... while B8's, XS20, AA,HH etc are all good.... zildjian are known for their good cymbals but if your getting budget cymbals i recommend you dont go there.

Paiste makes good cymbals too. THey have the 101, 201, PST3 and PST5 cymbals which are all pretty nice.

Stagg cymbals are actually pretty good too! for its budget price, the DH crash, DH fat hats and Classic/DH ride combo will work out well... have them in a drum room in my school and they have a nice ring.
Don't be fooled by the name Stagg makes some prettyy decent cymbals...

Bosphorus makes cymbals that arent too bad but i reckon their suited for jazz mainly....

Istanbul mehmet, Alchemy, agop are good.

and MEINL is really good. the have it at DoReMi music....if ur interested
the Hcs and MCS series recommended.

Well thats my LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG post on budget drums/cymbals....

hope i helped

thats all my research over the past few months....

And yeah i guess namqul was right.....i did end up posting herree.....

by any means
u tod of gettin an electric drumset
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acoutic drums is nice
unless u're locating the drum in
1) very gud soundproof room or
2) ur parents or neighbur dunt giv a S#$% how loud u play

btw dude if you really want a good electronic drumset, burgercis is selling a TD3KW (roland) for only RM3180 i think.... get that dude thats a really good deal

Thx guys...
u all really helped me alot...

electronic drumset is kinda pricey for me...
if i need to add any thing extra on the v-drum, around how much would it cost?
eg. extra cymbal...

i think i would go for either Tama Imperialstar, Pearl Forum or Pearl EX only...

Imperialstar.. the bass drum there... got the very big Imperialstar logo..
thatz y dun really like it.. any way can change it to the TAMA logo oni?

how much do the new sets of Imperialstar, Forum and EX cost?
where can i get those?

for cheapest price, whr can i get?
cuz if im not mistaken, Bentley n Rhapsody r selling Imperialstar for 2.4k or 2.5k...
but i heard my friend said that sumwhere selling around 2.1k oni...

any idea where can get cheapest (at least cheaper)?

the shipping from Bentley to my house which in Kelanja Jaya will be a bit costly (i think)...
so im waiting the Bentley in Mutiara Damansara to open... (kekeke...)

or do u think a whole damn drumset can fit in my Iswara Sedan?

for cymbals, i would definately go for Stagg 1st... cuz budget quite tight... haha...
i've tried Sabian Solar n it really sux!!!
Paiste sounds good... but seriously, budget quite tight...

oh yeah, not 4getting..
except for putting on Mutepad, any other way can reduce the sound?
cuz i really cuz i will piss my neighbour off...

mutepad got comes wif for the bassdrum 1? cuz i never saw b4...

hope u guyz dun mind 4 askin 2 much.. i really need help...

You can get a tama imperialstar for RM2000 at theguitarstore Sri Hartamas. dont worry bout the drumhead logo, cos you'll replace it eventually anyway...

The Pearl FX you can get for RM2100 at TGS sri hartamas, with cymbals, dvd, throne etc.

For Pearl EX if you want... one guy on lowyat (metalsam_666) is selling his pearl export in charcoal mettallic for only RM2150 without stands... if you manage to get the stands it'll still be A pretty good deal.

HQ percussion makes soundoff drum mutes the cancel 95% of the sound and they have a box set with Cymbal mutes, hi hat mutes, tom and snare mutes and bass drum mute. costs bout more than RM250 i think... ask namqul, he got some recently....

Also Sabian makes theyre practice disks and cymbal mute practice mutes. They sell the tom/snare pack and the cymbal pack seperately, and it blocks out 90% of the sound so you can hear slightly more compared with the sound of the HQ percussions.

so for the mutes it depends on how much sound do you want?
the sabian one looks good cos it'll be soft but loud enough for you to hear. =D

btw: most of the prices i stated are quoted by tgs sri hartamas... all other shops im not sure.

wow.. thats a very nice price..

u mean the Pearl FX is Pearl Forum?

for u, u would choose the FX or Imperialstar?

I prefer brand new drumset.. not that i care about it's used anot... juz i duno y i prefer brand new...
any Pearl EX still available around kl or selangor?

got the mutepads, i dun wish it would reduce so much of the noise.. at least i can hear the sound..
it's mainly like loud enough for me to hear, soft enough to avoid pissing my neighbour...

i need mutepad for bass drum..
cuz normally i saw mutepad oso w/o the bass drum 1..
i heard JS Music selling Vic Firth mutepad... including bass drum 1..
but i duno how izit...

actually, item selling in TGS sri hartamas quite reasonable price... will drop by n take a look soon after my exam..
the location is around where?

anyway, i cant find the link where metalsam_666 selling the Pearl EX woh...

p.s. nintendo, u really helped me alot.. thx!

well, you CAN get a pearl Export new, but itll be RM2750+
and yea FX:Forum...

TGS sri hartamas is around uncle dons and Lotte mart...
theres info on the site: http://theguitarstore.com.my

and ur welcome for the help.... im happy to help someone else for a change... =)

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Added on March 26, 2008, 1:05 amOH! dudee... im sorry... the pearl export has been soldd... but heres another good deal on a pearl export..

this ones RM2500 nego WITH cymbals and stands (actually better deal than the other one)

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=pearl+export

this is a pretty good deal! but if your SERIOUSLY not comfortable with buying used then just get a new one at tgs... but just fyi, i recently bought my drumset used and it turned out great... so i think its safe to say that buying used isnt too badd

This post has been edited by -Nintedo Wii-: Mar 26 2008, 01:07 AM

ok got it...

anyway, i noe where izit edi..
and they have another showroom in damansara perdana, which is quite near my house...
will go there check it out when im free...

i think i will go for Tama Imperialstar..
since im not pro...
dun think that i would go 4 expensive drumset 1st...

Imperialstar with the price RM2k...
really nice...
my budget is below 3k with cymbals..
so i think this shud b okay...


actually, i saw this set quite sum times ago...
mayb im a little fussy.. i dun really like the color...PURPLE!!
but the price is really so tempting...

buying used got its pros n cons lor..
good is they change the drumheads n stuff...
it will sound nicer...
bad is old edi... jz lk mayb scratch, crack n stuff u duno... datz y...

sigh..
i still hav lots more to learn on drumming...

well... as long as the product is in good condition, you should be fine.
but if ur interested in the imperialstar, you could get it with stagg DH hats, DH crash, and a DH ride and that would already be a GOOD combo. but im not sure about the price, could actually be more mahal. ur best bet is to go with Sabian B8's.... i got them and the sound is great!

dont get brass cymbals. totally not worth it.

i got used cymbals but then polished it with some Pro Mark Groove Juice JR cymbal Polish.... now they look good and they sound new!

I honestly think that purple set is a steal. The colour is cool lah - if you keep telling yourself that then you'll eventually believe so =S
If you want, I could go with you to test the kit out?
I live in KJ too.

its not just purple dude, its shining shimmering purple. lol. anyway, bout the practice pads, its good. it does come with a bass drum mute. i dont know how to measure how many percentage it block or mute or muffle the sounds, but hell it really reduce them much. ppl from the next room only hear a bit of knocking like u hitting with some beat on a table. and ppl from next door definitely hears nothing. the only thing that i dont like with it is that im too lazy to take off the mutes if i wanted to play loud. but as you can see, its just me because im lazy. haha. owh, another thing, my hats are 13' and the mute only comes in 14' hats and can fit up to 15'. so no mute for my hats.

plus dude if ur budget is 3k.... you could get the used EX (which ususally costs RM2750 WITHOUT cymbals OR throne) you could use the extra 500 bucks for ur drum mutes...

than after you get the mutes, you'll still have another 200++ bucks, which you can either keep or get more extra's...

plus i think the purple is pretty cool.... well its different...

i waaas actually considering this drumset... but when i asked it was RM3200....
this dude lowered the price already so its a pretty mnice deal.... otherwise you could check it out first