Guys...check out today's Star paper

SenQ is selling the Onkyo SR605 Black + Onkyo 5.1 speaker system (2 floor standing + 1 Center + 2 Book shelf + 1 Sub) for only RM4.8k

Good value I must say....go get the audition if u are looking for a whole new system and budget below 5k....

whats the difference if i get this set compare to AEGOM Satellite Series?

Satellite tends not too good in bass...most satellite range are 90hz - 20kHz...
floorstanding will begin at min 50hz (some full range one started at 30hz) and hitting 30Khz - 50Khz for some higher range models...the sound will be fuller, more dynamic and details....

compare the size of the speakers itself will see the diff lar...4" vs 6.5"...that's a lot of bass there

5k consider cheap ar?

I would go for the 605 + Jamo S606 (floor stander) package which HN quote for RM4300.

saw it today. Decent budget entry setup. Got 05 installment plan somemore.

consider cheap???
not really la....

here u meant the the speaker range can hit up t0 30Khz - 50Khz, is the difference alot compares to 20Khz range.?

wau. long time never see the 20khz. u sure u can hear anything above 18kHz

I've never own any above 30khz...mine untill 25khz nia so no comment but I've seen some the spec said 50hz - 50khz...dunno true or not...

why aims for those high frequency when our ears cant? I would prefer the speakers to be able to go low. If possible, lower than 35Hz. But, pricey

I think anything above 20khz won't be noticeable since our human ears can only hear up to 20khz but that depends on our age, as we get older, our hearing range will decrease so uncompressed PCM might sound just like normal DD track. Better enjoy while we are young, if not later old liao, DD and DTS also sound the same.

Most good floorstanders can do around 30hz to 35hz like that, anything lower than that, can only be achieved with the help of a subwoofer.

My Klipsch floorstanders can only acheive 36Hz. But, it is good. Any speakers that go lower than that are quite expensive nowadays.

me still blur abt this hz thing
the lower the better?

my T1 only 55Hz - 21kHz nia...peasant speaker, all lower Hz I channel to the sub.....but my crossover set at 90Hz....

The lower the spkr can goes, the deeper bass it could generate. More ooomph. But, bear in mind that it normally requires morem power to drive if to compare to less 'capable' spkr.

For the next gen AV, you can set diff crossover for each channel. If you have very good spkrs, then you can utilise its performance instead of wasting it by setting a higher crossover.


Taikor, your huge Jamo can go how low?

wats the purpose of crossover? set the higher the better?

huge jamo? mine satellite ler
but then again, i change speaker again

Continuous load: 56 W
Music load: 75 W
Impedance: 4 - 8 ohms
Frequency response +4 -8 dB 38 - 20,000 Hz
Sensitivity: 5W
Gross volume|: 25 litres
Woofer: 20cm
Phase link unit 8cm
Tweeter: 2,5cm

how low is this?

wah 38 - 20kHz

very good wor...

must be costing a fortune

I guess decent subs can do at least 26HZ, the lower the better. I guess I'm used to the bass generated by REL and Velodyne subs, really convincing and power.

Are you sure on the sensitivity?

It's a mistake, I guess. Mine is 95dB @ 1W/1M


My 12" sub goes as low as 25Hz, which is same as CHT-12R. However, this US co went bust more than a decade Very decent sub.

the sensitivity too hi or too lo?

the higher the better

so my 5w good? or too hi liao?

I think you copied wrongly liow!

Sensitivity is rated in dB or decibel.
The higher the number, the more sensitive it is.

My Focal is rated at 91 dB, which is considered as highly efficient although some speakers have sensitivity of 95 dB.

My Jamo A102 satellites which I connect to my Onkyo 605 is only rated at 86 dB, which make it less efficient than my Focal.

Of course these numbers are academic only, different manufacturers might use diff. methods in determining their speaker's specs so these numbers are not my 1st priority in choosing the speakers.

It's your wallet and your ears that count

I heard there is a new upgrade for the SR605. The new model is SR606 with 4 HDMI. See link attached :

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13394773
http://www.productwiki.com/onkyo-tx-sr606/
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=52616.0

You are right, widget.

Mine is rated at 95dB.

So fast that 605 is obsolete.

they have to move fast if not the 663 will tapau all potential 605 owner....

welcum 663..hehehe

widget, we got the same speakers and amps ar?

the data isnt jamo speaker though

I don't believe Onkyo makes good speakers at all, on par with other Japanese makes but nothing special (mass-produced crap). Their amplification has been pretty well known for budget systems though (think Integra).

The Jamo and Onkyo pairing is good enough for my weekend activity....
I need my daily dosage of music rather than movies, so I concentrate on stereo rather than HT.

U r talking about the dB rating for the Jamo is it?
I copied the data from the pdf file, which can d/l fr Jamo website.
It stated that for Jamo 102, the sensitivity (dB - 2.8V,1m) is at 86 dB.

This post has been edited by widget: Mar 26 2008, 05:13 PM

music good ar? wat are ur settings? and ur CD player?
i normally select director pure audio rather than stereo for CD listening

no lar, im just saying the data i posted isnt jamo speakers , tats all

Hello, good morning to youu all

I am new user here.

I have question on Home Theather

Currently SenQ, Malaysia is selling Home theather promotion
Several type, i am comparing several unit
Marantz SR301 + Rogers (PS5 + RC300MKII _ ASB120) => RM$2999
They also offer me another one not in the promotion:
ONKYO TXSR505 = RM$1199 + Jamo S606HCS3 (without Subwoofer) =RM$1699

I am considering the TXSR605 also...but need to check the price

The Jamo speaker and TXSR605 won award...is it important?

Rogers unit or Jamo speaker...which one better?

605 is onky entry level to next gen amp, do u need those next gen things?

OK...DO YOU THINK THE
RogerS package or Jamo packages(if stick with the TXSR505) which one better
Rogers is manufacturer in Malaysia
I call the distributor Jamos, the lady said Jamo was imported from German...is it True?

jamo from german ar? i dunno wor
i think rather than comapre it by branding, might as well u audition it urself

The cabinet of the Rogers speaker made by MDF
I am not sure on Jamo...but the saleman claimed made from solid wood.
I read the Jamo webpage...their similar subwoof also made from MDF...

Solid wood vs MDF...is it important to take into consideration

I have listen both ...i feel the Rogers look good with the their subwoofer for movie....music...ok also
the Jamo set is ok also.......
I worried the Jamo was made from China....which a lot of people claim will have bad QC

I am new to HT....wanna to purchase one unit....my budget ~ 3K
Please help to advise....any model in the market comparable with above Jamo or Rogers unit

Thanks in advance for advise

I c....
I thought u're saying the data I posted for the Jamo is wrong

I don't use the Onkyo and Jamo for serious music listening...
The only time I use the Onkyo for music is when I listen to the radio at night and put it on sleep mode...
If I use my hifi set to listen to the radio before I go to bed, normally I wake up in the middle of the night and start searching for the remote to switch of the system.

Hi,

True wood cabinetry for spkrs are rare n very expensive.. usually in de 5fig regions for a pair of floorstanders (at least) .. think sonus or de higher model thiels .. all budget spkrs use mdf, de one u wanna choose is de thicker n sturdier de internal bracin, de better which translates to wt or de heavier de better.. even de outside skin is usually sum cheap stick one stuff, if its real wood veneer itll look much better..

I think u should just go audition wat ur budget allow or maybe look at a pair first wif de rcvr n then add on when u hv de cash..

I oso suggest u look used .. for good spkrs last a long time n a decent used one usually still hv sum life left.. I hv 3 sets of floorstanders which only de frist set is bought new(abt 10yrs ago) n tats becos I didnt know better .. my subsequent systems all hv used spkrs - Tannoy n Paradigms flrstndrs - bought at least 4yrs ago n still going strong..

Cheers
Dirtrun

widget, so ur onky and jamo used for wat? movies?

Thanks for reply...

I will use for Movie ..home theather...but sometimes...i also wanna for Music
I heard ONKYO Amp is more to Home Theater and Marantz is more to music....right?

Both Amp is famaous ....but how about the speaker => Jamo or Rogers....good speaker or not?

For movies and PS3 only.... which is normally during the weekend.
That's why I just stick with the budget Onkyo and Jamo rather than the flagship models 875 or 905 or even Intergra.

Considering that they going to release the xx6 models less then a year after they released the xx5 series, I think I've made the right decision.

widget, so u also bluray kaki?

wat u set wen watching bluray on ur onky? pure audio? direct or mpcm?
u think u can hear a lot of difference btwn dolby, trueHD and PCM?

I would opt for Jamo S606 as I had auditioned that before with Onkyo SR605. I liked the combination and together with the Samsung BD1400 the sound is amazing. I tested it in Sunway Pyramid Senq. Price around RM4300 for that combination (amp + speaker).

As I'm watching bluray on PS3, I set the Onkyo to PCM.
When watching DVD on the Oppo 980, I normally set to either DD or DTS.

Still no chance to watch bluray in trueHD unless future PS3 firmware can send the native signal to the Onkyo for Onkyo's onboard decoding.
Currently, have to let PS3 decode the truHD.

so how much roughly to expect if i sell 605 as 2nd hand since now so many ppl interested hehe

Since it will be replaced by new model very soon, how about RM700?

How much you willing to sell? I can give RM800....keeee

i am not really selling it just surveying . besides no harm keeping a 2nd amp in the house.

Many opportunists here .. LOL

synco, for tat price, i rather keep in thetoilet to hear music during pangsai

widget, yes, i set to multi PCM as well
but as i said, do you hear any significant improvent btwn , ltes say, dolby digital track and PCM track?

wah...rx, u go korek your ear wax lar....
I think not the Jamo problem but your ear wax too thick liao...

btw, last night watch I am Legend....the TrueHD seem very quiet....

i think i need to go see ear loktor liao

quiet means wat? so true and real, becos only will smith alone in the world?

The different is there, but not so much maybe due to the size of the Jamo satellites.
Between the DD and PCM track, the PCM track sounds better, with more details and quieter background.
Maybe if I change the speakers I can hear more improvement.

But considering the 605 is the budget Onkyo, I think I'll make do with the Jamo for the time being.
At least, it looks cute with it piano-gloss finish

wat abt dolby and treuHD? for me i prefer pcm over legacy dolby as well
butcan u hear tat much details?
but true hd and dolby, i relly cant hear much difference, its softer most ofthe time

so must get floorstandings to feel thedifference?

What are you waiting? upgrade lah, bro

Haha!
Good one bro

Hear that rx330?
Time for u to upgrade to floorstander

haha true RX
thats y i dont really bother much
going to keep the amp as backup instead

Only Elite ppl have toilet the size of our bedroom. Our toilet is so tiny until no space to put AV rcvr and spkrs.

hahaha thats true

niamah... kena pijak....
i sleep in my bathroom, anjua?

How to believe? So, going to change to 606?

wah lau..bathroom got water bed is it?

now you indirectly admitted that you are super elite....super big bathroom that can fit in bed, bath tub, projector with receiver + 5.1 system & a 106" screen

Poor RX, mention about bathroom pun kena pijak.

its hard to survive here wen the elites are pijak-kers

Ok, let us spare Elite rx330 for this time.

They train you to be a stronger person.

Cut the crap, rx. Are you going to upgrade?

Serious

PCM vs legacy

got sig. diff. ?

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Added on April 1, 2008, 10:57 amSerious

PCM vs legacy

got sig. diff. ?

This post has been edited by megatron007: Apr 1 2008, 10:57 AM

wat is there to upgrade? to 606?

Changing from 605 to 606 is considered as lateral movement, not upgrading.

U should at least go for 87x or 90x when the xx6 series arrive
Or better still, import the Integra AV-processor fr States or Japan.....

Then u can join the Elite class, with REON upscaler inside.... hehehe!

wats with this reon? if im not upscaling any source, then no poitn rite?

Yes, IMHO it would be a waste if you are not using it to do any upscaling. Reon HQV chip is one of the best proceesor. Heard that Hollywood studios are using it.

If not upscaling, can always get the 805 or wait for the 806

2008 - 2012 = onkyo 605 for me

Sure can tahan for the next 4 years ah bro?

Well, the Reon processor is used in Denon's high end dvd players but if a Denon high end dvd player is priced around RM6K plus, then getting an Onkyo receiver will be much more worth it for the price.

u think in the next 4 years gonna have another dolby true HD MA?

of course lah

these companies will always find a way to exploit our money...

now they said sound is from studio master.. after this they will sed sound is from god!

but not in 4 years time i suppose, the most in coming years, shud be those 7.1 , 9.1 and 11.1 nia

RX...upgrade ur speakers better

true, the speakers getting many and the surrounds will be more deep and real.

For me, I would only adopt 7.2 the most. 9.1 setup is downright space consuming. Peasant cant afford to buy a bigger house for that

I think the current lossless format should stay for abt 4 years or so just like Dolby Digital EX and DTS-ES did previously.

my small apartment only can setup 5.1 ... till I get slightly bigger house in future

until i get my projector, if not i stay with 5.1 1st

got 2 spares jamo for the additional 2.0

but aaa..

i tried to use 2 extra presence speaker on my 661 (already hav 6.1 setup), the effects is noticeable..

the surrounds got more fuller and deep. and all the yammys DSP program effects got deeper..

but space consuming lah...

but not all the shows have 7.1 wor...

Yes, but it is better to have this. Sort of 'Future proofing' mah Can utilise whenever the BD is encoded in 7.1

i think BDs tat have 7.1 also not much
i seldom come across those
and i dun like matrix as well

lets say i have a 7.1 set up, wen playing EX or EX, the rear 2 speakers will act as one?

u still can opt to select 5.1, which will automatically 'shut-off' those rear surr spkrs.

i mean wen playin 6.1 wor, why wanna shut of?

6.1?! I am confused.

i mean if the movie is 6.1, abd i got a 7.1 setup, wat will happen?

aiks, which BD movies encoded in 6.1?

er.... the protege got dolby digital EX 6.1

if the media is originally 7.1 or EX, rear surrounds will act as 2...

if the media originally 6.1, receiver which has the capability (like yammy's DSP program or DTS Neo 6 or ProLogic IIx) will make it as 2... if dun hav these, it will act as one...

and those presence speaker will contributes to the effects (11.2 setup / 9.1 setup)... not the surrounds...

effects e.g dialog lift, speech clarity, extra ambiance (cool tho, e.g playing shooting scene, will add the realism) and so fourth...

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Apr 3 2008, 12:27 PM