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 Xigmatek HDT-s1283 Red-Scorpion Review, Come Join The Community..

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post Mar 17 2008, 09:39 PM


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Ultra has to lapped one in order to perform something brows.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 10:42 PM

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I think xigmatek also can be lapped, i saw one forumer done it before when he wanna sell off his S1283, but forget who liao... anyhow, who's up here wanna try lapping the heatsink??
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post Mar 17 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:01 PM)
Just imagine after the comparison done and (if) find out that the Red Scorpion is better than the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.........Sure the sale of Red Scorpion will fly sky high.
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read from coolaler forum there, TR Ultra 120 Extreme still perform better. But in term of CP, sure red scorpion better. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 17 2008, 10:42 PM)
I think xigmatek also can be lapped, i saw one forumer done it before when he wanna sell off his S1283, but forget who liao... anyhow, who's up here wanna try lapping the heatsink??
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lap the cooler will void the warranty... I might do it if the warranty was expire... wink.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 17 2008, 10:42 PM)
I think xigmatek also can be lapped, i saw one forumer done it before when he wanna sell off his S1283, but forget who liao... anyhow, who's up here wanna try lapping the heatsink??
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I don't think it's going to be easy to lap the xigmatek. That's because you won't be able to lap an even surface, seeing that the aluminium plates are between the copper heatpipes.... if you only lap the copper heatpipes, then the aluminium plates will be protruding out.... however slightly it may be, if you know what I mean.....
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post Mar 17 2008, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2008, 11:03 PM)
I don't think it's going to be easy to lap the xigmatek. That's because you won't be able to lap an even surface, seeing that the aluminium plates are between the copper heatpipes.... if you only lap the copper heatpipes, then the aluminium plates will be protruding out.... however slightly it may be, if you know what I mean.....
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i didn't face any difficulties while lapping my xigmatek (i tried that on two xigmatek tongue.gif)
Just make sure you lap it on flat surface.
The temperature dropped a bit after lapping. smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 17 2008, 11:08 PM)
i didn't face any difficulties while lapping my xigmatek (i tried that on two xigmatek tongue.gif)
Just make sure you lap it on flat surface.
The temperature dropped a bit after lapping.  smile.gif
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how lil bro?? 1, 5, degree? if really can lap i also wanna try bro.... but the surface isnt really like flat due to the pipe and not like regular heatsink surface... u get what i mean??

any tips on how u did it??
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Mar 17 2008, 10:49 PM)
read from coolaler forum there, TR Ultra 120 Extreme still perform better. But in term of CP, sure red scorpion better. laugh.gif
lap the cooler will void the warranty... I might do it if the warranty was expire... wink.gif
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actually im still wondering what kind of warranty do this xigmatek give for thier cooler??? the heatsink wont spoil rite?? unless u physical dmg it... izzit the warranty for the fan??


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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 17 2008, 11:28 PM)
how lil bro?? 1, 5, degree? if really can lap i also wanna try bro.... but the surface isnt really like flat due to the pipe and not like regular heatsink surface... u get what i mean??

any tips on how u did it??
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hmm im interested to know how the whole process of lapping is done... i know using sand papers to do it but no idea what to used to do it... i hope he enlighten me/us for the xigmatek....


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post Mar 18 2008, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 17 2008, 11:54 PM)

hmm im interested to know how the whole process of lapping is done... i know using sand papers to do it but no idea what to used to do it... i hope he enlighten me/us for the xigmatek....
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this thread might help.... although this is not on how to lap on direct touch heatpipe laugh.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/363027


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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 18 2008, 12:03 AM)
this thread might help.... although this is not on how to lap on direct touch heatpipe laugh.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/363027
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huhu ARIGATO GOZAIMASU!!.. what about xigmatek s1283 lapping process?? hehe got tutorial? coz they are diff for the base... harder to lap it...

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post Mar 18 2008, 01:44 AM

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here is some pics for u guys....

to push the performance of the xigmatek red scorpion i went and test it with my proc which i oc from 3.15 (450x7) to 3.22 (460x7) with stock vcore (1.32V)... this time i tried it without the fan and compare it with the fan at full blast (around 1510rpm)... to clarify things, the test is run in room temp (no air cond) and the setup was half naked.... enjoy the pics....


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this is where the fan is off completely



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fan is on with full force



the stress time might be too short (5 min) but i dont have the time to stress it longer... maybe when i have the time i'll do it but u guys can give it a try and post more result.... anyway when the scorpion with the fan off, the temp didnt exceed 67... it goes up and down but still at last remain at 67 degree (for the first 5 min)....

overall i would say that the xigmatek is just so awesome.... even without fan it still can perform quite well maybe due to the heat-pipe direct touch which has just proof its efficiency.... rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif

im hoping to see some result for those who wanna lap or already lap their xigamatek cooler.... smile.gif

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bro try to stress for longer period.... 5minutes is a little bit short....

last time i bench me E6750 @3.0ghz vs @3.2ghz on full load... with 3.0ghz finish run prime95 FFT 8k finish while 3.2ghz only run abour 30%(test 5/14) and both temp is the same at 54'c... thats why i retest it and update the review.. tongue.gif... actually its at 56'c for 3.2ghz intead of 54
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wow that's kind of cool for overclocking... i got myself black ones coz gonna get quad core for oc.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/363027/+520
see post #540

I used grit 1500 and 2000 sandpaper for that. nod.gif
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post Mar 18 2008, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 02:51 AM)
bro try to stress for longer period.... 5minutes is a little bit short....

last time i bench me E6750 @3.0ghz vs @3.2ghz on full load... with 3.0ghz finish run prime95 FFT 8k finish while 3.2ghz only run abour 30%(test 5/14) and both temp is the same at 54'c... thats why i retest it and update the review.. tongue.gif... actually its at 56'c for 3.2ghz intead of 54
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Is it ur idle or partially load temp? It seems like high fsb also translates to high cpu temp....
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 02:51 AM)
bro try to stress for longer period.... 5minutes is a little bit short....

last time i bench me E6750 @3.0ghz vs @3.2ghz on full load... with 3.0ghz finish run prime95 FFT 8k finish while 3.2ghz only run abour 30%(test 5/14) and both temp is the same at 54'c... thats why i retest it and update the review.. tongue.gif... actually its at 56'c for 3.2ghz intead of 54
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i wanted to stress longer but no time.... when i have the time i surely will push harder and see how... i believe the scorpion can do it even without fan....
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 18 2008, 11:44 AM)
Is it ur idle or partially load temp? It seems like high fsb also translates to high cpu temp....
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haha just forget it.. anyway refer to 1st 5 post and u will know the temperature..... already corrected..

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 09:39 PM)
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that true what u said..ultra really need to lapped...it got very bad base..cpz not rata...i test on mirror it became like buaian... brows.gif my ultra lay down almost 1 week for lapped..but still not start yet..waiting for lapping machine at lab free 1st... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2008, 11:03 PM)
I don't think it's going to be easy to lap the xigmatek. That's because you won't be able to lap an even surface, seeing that the aluminium plates are between the copper heatpipes.... if you only lap the copper heatpipes, then the aluminium plates will be protruding out.... however slightly it may be, if you know what I mean.....
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Lap the whole surface and the aluminium plates get sanded down too.
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Mar 18 2008, 01:29 PM)
that true what u said..ultra really need to lapped...it got very bad base..cpz not rata...i test on mirror it became like buaian... brows.gif my ultra lay down almost 1 week for lapped..but still not start yet..waiting for lapping machine at lab free 1st... tongue.gif
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wooh..u sing lab machine?erm izzit flat surface?coz at my shcool oso got..but not flat surface as the sandin belt keep movin sweat.gif
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actually i wanna try to lap it my previous S1283,but what come in my mind is.
the DHT copper base,how thick is it?if lap until bocoh then i sweat.gif

heat pipe is quite thin and not as thick as the copper base like ordinary hsf using one,get my point?

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