Attached is the story, I've censored some vulgar words and swearing

My car is a 1998 Kancil btw, 850cc manual.

Some facts :
1. I've changed my timing belt at 120k km, when the belt snaps it was 160k km. Weird, coz my timing belt should last for 80k km - how come it snapped after running for 40k km?
2. Once the timing belt snaps (heard kalak kalak sound), I straight turn off engine and rolled into a workshop 2 shops away from my grandma place, so didn't overhaul.
3. When the mechanic fixing, I saw that he is not so experienced in changing timing belt. He even asked some friends to come and see, and help, but they all also dunno how to fix. Then one of his friend come and use sandpaper to rub the tensioner bearings (I googled it up) middle part, then forcefully stuck it in.
4. Mechanic started it up, I was in front of the car. Saw the part where the fan, valve, engine part went senget.

And so, I googled again :
If you allowed the timing to become misaligned while you changed the belt, you have a serious problem on your hands. Either correct the error, or consult a mechanic. Do not operate a vehicle with incorrect timing, as serious internal engine damage could occur. (source)

If this is what happened to my car, I wonder what parts are spoilt.

I have sent my car to the workshop 3 times today to get my car fixed :
First time : After he fixed the senget part and returned the car to me, my car easily died when I was idle. So I returned the car to him.
Second time : After he fixed the "died when idle" problem, I took back the car. But it's very shaky, as if I can see two steerings when I was driving So I returned to him and ask him to check on the mounting.
Third time : Engine oil leaking Sent back to fix. Just got it back yesterday and haven't bring it out for a long journey test drive.

So my question to sifu sifu here : Are there anything else that I missed out and haven't check? My car is still shaky and no power. I have to use gear 2 to naik the same bukit which I always use gear 4 to naik.

P/S : Idle RPM at 1k.


Details of the shop.
Siang Hin Tayar Sdn Bhd - Webpage
347, Jln Tun Razak,
50400 Kuala Lumpur
Tel:03-92858615 Fax:03-92859117

The mechanic who screwed up my car no longer working there. Now a fat guy mechanic is handling the fixing resurrection of my car.
I found something
Satria Neo on fire, same work shop


A little update.
My logs :
8 Mar - Sent to Siang Hin for service at 12pm. Went to lunch from 1pm to 2pm. Observe the fixing from 2pm onwards. Saw with my own eyes they screwed up at 5pm.
10 Mar - Collect the car at 7pm. Test drive during traffic jam from Siang Hin Jln Tun Razak road to Jalan Loke Yew, car died when idle at the ramp up to UE3. Died during idle another time near the junction to my place.
11 Mar - Sent back to workshop to fix the die when idle problem.
12 Mar - Took back the car at 6pm.
13 Mar - Noticed engine oil leakage. Sent back to workshop.
14 Mar - Took back car, bring back to apt. Get a mechanic friend to help me check, valve is unchanged, no overhaul is done. Pissed off.
16 Mar - Back from outstation. Sent car to workshop.
17 Mar - Took back car. They claimed that overhaul is done. Noticed the RPM is way higher than normal. Sent back to workshop.
18 Mar - Took back car. RPM stable at 1 this time. Test drive in traffic jam and on highways. Still shaky when reach 90kmph.
24 Mar - Still no power and shaky, ask mechanic friend to help me see. He said no overhaul is done and I'm taken for a ride. And my engine oil left half tank only! The oil is leaking from valve bearing!
25 Mar - Sent to workshop together with my mechanic friend. They discussed things that is damaged and need change. Left it there.
27 Mar - Went to collect car with mechanic friend. Overhaul is done, leakage is fixed. Still gonna test drive for a few days.
2 Apr - Send back to workshop, engine oil leakage is significant when engine is hot.
3 Apr - Got back my car, they fixed the valve bearing again. Let's test drive and see how it goes.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 4 2008, 02:32 PM

check valve springs and if your valve's have floated.
check engine mountings.

@suiteng, engine oil leak from where ? catchment tank ? or main block ?

Why still visting the same workshop?

If you know their "kung fu" limited...

some sort of warranty?

Your assumption?

my assumption:
ts has to go back to the same workshop because they are the one who were trying to fix it for her. any problem sure go back to them.. if she goes to another shop, she has to pay again...

to ts:
i dont know if the timing is aligned correct. a shaky car is scary... i suggest you rather go to another shop than waste time and damage the engine.

read above

ditto!

Checked the valve springs, it's kinda loose. And I can tarik it up and down about 1cm. Is it normal?

Mountings already checked and it seems ok (externally). I told the mechanic to check on the mounting during the 2nd time I sent it back to the shop.

About engine oil leak from where, I need to ask the mechanic again. Will update later.

Yup, they are fixing my car for me FOC until I'm satisfied with it. And they already fired the mechanic who screwed up my car. This mechanic is a different guy, seems like more experienced.

If I bring it to another workshop means I have to pay again. So I'll keep on sending it back to the workshop for checking until I cannot tahan then only will send to another workshop, see how la..

P/S : Now I'm worried about the valve

its no big deal when valve floats, whole engine condemn oni.

yes your springs are supposed to recoil and thats normal.

also check your teppet. if oil leaks thru your gasket, its normal, change gasket cheap cheap oni.
if oil leak thru sum crack ,then u're done for as well.

let me ask u in detail again so we can help identify your cause

u said your car was shaky. is shaky as in strong vibrations when car is STATIONARY or moving ?
any sounds u unfamiliar of (meaning that u've never heard b4 when your car was healthy)?
any smells or smoke u're unfamiliar of ?

you could also check your timing on the RPM meter to see if it falls below the 500 mark. with and without air cond.
sometimes in order to diagnose something, u need to be a lil bit more precise. as much information given will further aid our understanding.

and last request - post the name of the shop so we will not set foot there.

I have a 1998 Kancil 850cc but AUTO lah...

And I did encounter issue with Timing Belt problem. The funny thing about this timing belt is, instead of SNAPPED, the groove on the belt became botak and thus the belt got certain parts are smooth, no rubber ridge groove...

It happened while I heading to Section 17 PJ, but the engine suddenly dead in front of Eastin's BHP Petrol station. A few good Samaritan help me to push the car to the Petrol Kiosk.

The thing is, after the change of timing belt, my engine is quite noisy, at least noisier than before as if something not right. I was considered lucky because those valve in there not crooked due to misalignment or some sort.

I think in your case, best that you send it to a trustworthy workshop for a thorough check. Where'd you staying? I know one place at Bandar Tasik Permaisuri there where I send my car to repair and service.

recently changed my car timing belt..

car is moving like turtle..totally no power...rpm was high since the car wont move...once the car stop hard to move it...


problem solved : due to the one of the pad (according to mechanic) misaligned as such the computer board unable to receive the signal...so gearbox got prob..


if u notice, the handbrake area very hot

Condemn? Dun scare me..

I'll ask the mechanic again tonite on the oil leakage, will update later.

About shaky car, the vibration only starts when my car is STATIONARY. And the noise is not consistent. It's like "dek dek dek dek dek" quiet down, "vroom", then "dek dek dek dek dek", repeat. Never been like this when my car was healthy. I feel like I'm driving a very old car now.

About smells or smoke I'm not sure.. smells of cigarette now

I'll monitor the RPM after work when I go home.

Erm.. they had fired the mechanic who screwed up my car. But I will post the name of the shop if the experienced mechanic also cannot get my car back to normal again.

Your car noisy for how long already? What kinda sound it emits?

Permaisuri is near my place If checking only got charge me wan ma?

u shud post so we wont go there and kena the same thing.

dekdekdekdek sounds like misfiring. troubleshooting guide step 1 - check cables from distri to spark plugs and make sure they are in proper order.
step 2 - misaligned cams also give that dekdekdekdek sound.
step 3 - check for squirrels. they might be holding miniature hammers and annoying u. do not feed them. they will eventually go away.

My car also moving like turtle now. Pad misaligned? Ok will take note of the handbrake area later.

Step 1 - Ok later bukak bonnet.
Step 2 - how to check this? Ask mechanic?
Step 3 - what those squirrels eat?

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Added on March 14, 2008, 2:56 pmShop details in first page.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 14 2008, 02:56 PM

wat da....suddenly become joke thread

just wanna share my experience here. I once changed my timing belt at Rally Auto in Damansara Utama. There wasn't any issue at all after fixing the new timing belt. But the next time I visit (few days later), the mechanic was looking around the engine area and asked for some of my time. He then parked my car inside and started fixing something on the timing belt...he wouldn't mention what the problem was. Anyway, after 15 minutes...he started to take a hammer and hammered the damn thing the hammering continued on forever (at least if felt that way ) BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG. I think he then gave up halfway and fixed everything back. It looked like he left it 80-90% complete. Till today, there was no problem with the timing belt. So, moral of the story is...err...its erm...well...nevermind

I did read... but let's wait TS to clarify.

I do not assume.

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Added on March 14, 2008, 4:22 pmTo TS,

If they have experieneced mech, why until now your car still cacat?

This post has been edited by thunderbird: Mar 14 2008, 04:22 PM

Half bucket water. No choice. If I go other place I need to pay

That's why I'm asking advise from sifu sifu here

Siang Hin fellas only know how to change oil, perform routine service & change tires.

Things involving engine shouldn't let them touch.

By the way, timing belt snap could be due to 3 major reasons.
1) Imitation parts
2) Improper installation
3) Oil seal leaking - the oil affect the tension & corrode the surface/structure of the belt.

Aih... just checked.

Idle RPM naik after they fix the engine oil leakage.

Without aircond = 1.5
With aircond = 1

I wonder why, last time idle at 1 with and without aircond.

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Added on March 14, 2008, 11:58 pmI'm going outstation tomolo, will update when I'm back on Monday.

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Added on March 14, 2008, 11:59 pmNo, I'm not driving my car outstation

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 14 2008, 11:59 PM

That hapens to my car too, but if im not mistaken its just the idle screw settings behind, very minor adjustments can solve it.

Hopefully its that prob la lol, cause if it is, ur prob shud be solved

@TS, i m not sifu but i hope can help u
u can do it yourself and very simple. do u know wat is distributor. there is a nut which lock the distributor and after loosen the nut u can align the distributor. align until u get ur engine smooth i.e. not so low rpm and not so high rpm when idle.
i m driving a kancil 660 and this technique is my experienced sifu told me 1

Aiks... dun dare to simply play with the setting later kaput

I'm back in KL~ Tomolo go find mechanic~

aiyooo girl..1stly dont go to tyre shop if u got engine problem..they only know how to repair tyre and rims only..once ur timing belt snap u must go overhaul..confirm ur valve head bengkok already..the solution is better u go top overhaul and go to the workshop that specialst in engine only..thanks

You sure the timing belt snapped?

Usually, when the belt snaps, it's a major issue. This is because when the belt snaps, the valves stop moving & in most cases (unless the angels are looking upon you), will involve either a head replacement or top overhaul.

The usual damages are
1. crooked valves
2. damaged pistons
3. skewed head

These are the major issues. There's no way the mechanic could fix it by superficial means. The minimum that can be done is to open the head & check the innards. If the mechanic actually started the engine WITHOUT replacing the belt 1st, he's a MORON! Ask any qualified mechanic & you'll get similar answers.

You should have posted this in the Technical Talk section for proper feedback.

I've got a faint feeling you're being taken for a ride here

da squirrels are still holding lil mallets eh ? lolz

Back from shop. I got a feeling that it's still the same. Still shaky. I tried to bring it up to 90kmph... lagi shaky Last time I can go 140kmph without a problem wan

Yalo uncle Taken for a ride here. But if I go other shop to fix, I need to pay extra again. If I go back to the same shop, no expertise there.

u can turn your kancil into bumper car now. then u claim insurance. insurance company send u to professional worksyop. everything is solved. all is beres. u celebrate by opeing several bottles of champagne and start bad mouthing the previous worksyop.

alls well ends well.

u may use my idea n gimme credit for it.

Can I like, bring it to other shop on the cost of Siang Hin?

damn....that's one heck of a shop i'm gonna avoid, siang hin got alot of bad comments recently..

Yeah, including the Neo which caught fire after getting service from Siang Hin also. I just found out after searching uncle google

BTW, the shop say that if I wanna fix also must fix at Siang Hin only. They dun give option for me to go find specialist and put it at their cost

Based on their workmanship / expertise, I dun think my car can recover

Will the Consumer Affairs department take any action if you complain?
Wanna give it a try?

I think that's a better option than beaching your car there for good

At least with the complain, you might be lucky enough to get another ride

I did complained and asked the consumer parties, they said since Siang Hin willing to bear the cost of fixing then let them fix until I'm satisfied. But then no matter how they fix, it seems like they are making my car worst!

Last time can go up to 140kmph no shaking. Now 90kmph already shaking like crazy. Alignment tuned already (by the same shop). If like not alignment problem how come it will shake?

Another problem I encountered today. Remember I mentioned it's idle at 1.5k rpm without aircond?

Today I drove and this is the reading at 2nd gear. Notice the engine part, the needle not moving. I've been driving for a long distance to work and the engine temperature remains at cold.

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Added on March 18, 2008, 2:03 pmP/S : Also notice that RPM is very high. Normally with RM40 worth of petrol I can go like 300km. Now with the same amount RM40 worth of petrol I can only travel 200km. Timing is totally out.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 18 2008, 02:03 PM

Look, your engine is NEVER going to be 'better' if it keeps on going to them.

You pistons might be all well from the fact that you're still driving it, but I've got a gut feeling that your valves are bent. That means, unless you send your engine head for a proper valve replacement job, it'll ALWAYS be like this.

By the looks of it, they'll be ruining your car bit-by-bit if you continue...

Just go to the consumer's department, explain that they CAN NOT repair the car and get them to compensate you.

If you feel a little feisty, get a lawyer & sue them That'll teach them...

when the timing blet of a kancil snaps, i'm quite sure that some of the valves will be bent.............

It's very screwed up since FC went bad. Checking with tribunal.

So be reminded to get a mechanic who knows what he's doing. Dun get one like mine who further damage my car

hi there anyone,since you guys are talking about timing belt here,i'm wondering if i could borrow this thread to inquiry regarding my concerns on timing belt.

actually how do you tell the timing belt are wearing out? because my car at it's 80 k's mileage already.but i still don't know if i need to change it,is there anyway that i could perform diagnose on my own or i need to bring to workshop in order to get it checked?

thanks

Depends. Some is 40k (not sure in market still got or not), some 60k, some 80k some 100k. Maybe it's better you bring it to workshop to check if you don't have the expertise

it's ok. i run a workshop no problems here

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Added on March 19, 2008, 7:45 pmwhat car? some manufacturers recomend a 60k km timing belt change interval, some at 80k and some at 100k. just to be on the safe side, always change the complete timing belt kit 10k before recomended service intervals. better safe than sorry, especially with our local cars

This post has been edited by maddriver: Mar 19 2008, 07:45 PM

mine's a 10 years old proton saga iswara....1.5 de....if that helps.....

best to get it changed.

i sent my car to service yesterday and i asked the foreman at the workshop what will happen if timing belt snapped since he ask me to change it (65k millage)

but after he told me ,
if your timing belt snapped and you better prepare 2k++ to take out the engine and do complete overhaul , the piston , valve , block might damaged.

i quickly ask the foreman to change the timing belt and the kit (don't want to waste money on taking out the engine to fix this fix that x-x)

and TS , i suggest that you ask the foreman at the workshop take your engine out and do complete overhaul since they said they fix your car for free

Yeah, they did said to fix my car for free. But no matter how they fix it, it seems like they are dragging the time until it to finish warranty (they give 1 month warranty).

I have no choice but to complain to tribunal. Waiting for them to process the claim to change the engine, valve, mounting etc is taking ages. And those siang hin fellers are just dragging the time and didn't change anything.

Seems like I sent the car to workshop is for decoration only, they are not changing anything!

complaint 2 da department lo~
da worst case of my car overhaul also 2 days only~

complain them at consumer association ?

just ask them change a L2 engine for you la xD

anyway , full overhaul probably just take 2~3 days , i did the top overhaul yesterday morning and evening i can get my car

A little update. I sent my car to my personal mechanic, it's confirmed that they never change the engine or valve. Even the mounting is screwed.

So I took the car back to Siang Hin on Sunday, told them that I need the valve and engine to be changed or at least fixed. Coz if I continue to have low power and high FC like this it will continue giving me problem and I will continue sending it back and it's not good for both of us.

Siang Hin feller : But we have changed the valves for you.
Me : Nope, my friend is a mechanic, he checked and even show me that the valve is not changed, or maybe you guys bought scraps to replace and it is doing my car no good. I want it to be replaced with new parts because it is your workshop's fault that my car end up in this condition.
Siang Hin feller : We will consider. (that means he admit that he cheat me la)
Me : I wanna speak to your boss.
Siang Hin boss : I am the boss (a lady)
Me : Alright, so your boys spoilt my car, I need the valves to be changed or at least fixed. (repeat the problem above)
Siang Hin boss : We shall take responsibility.
Me : Alright.

Few minutes later.

Siang Hin feller : Miss, your car leak black oil, need to refill.
Me : How come leaking? Last time you guys fixed it ma.
Siang Hin feller : (totally ignore my question) Miss, you wanna buy which black oil?
Me : Why should I buy when you guys are the one who spoilt it? It never leak until you guys lay hands on it.
Siang Hin boss : Miss, changing timing belt have nothing to do with black oil.
Me : When I sent my car back for the third time, it's already leaking. (calling my mechanic - he said yes, it might caused rupture when timing belt pulled my engine senget)
Siang Hin boss : We will not fix the leakage.
Me : Alright, I'll make sure I update the tribunal.

And now my car is still with me, still leaking engine oil. Waiting for tribunal to do things would be very long. Valve not changed. No complete overhaul. Blah..... life sucks for me now.

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Added on March 25, 2008, 9:47 amI found something
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/628644

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 25 2008, 09:47 AM

It's a bad idea to drive with just the timing belt fixed. If your pistons or valves are compromised, it'll be a VERY bad thing
Good thing you did a top overhaul after that though


Firstly, you better find a ride to temporarily use. This is going to take a while.
Secondly, don't give a second thought to charge/accuse them of things that they have actually done. NEVER give them the slightest hint that you 'might' be responsible for any problem a they will dig at that until the story turns 180. You'll find yourself in trouble if you ever do.
Your mindset should be "They screwed my car, PERIOD!".
Idiots like this should be thought a lesson, too many of their kind around due to the large population of ignorant drivers

Hope to share some information in case some people didn't know.
Most product has lifespan in terms of TIME too. In this case of timing belt, some have 3-5 years lifespan (usage).
When unused, I "believed" it willd deterrioates too, just much slower.
So, if your car is old, doesn't matter if it has hit 60K or 80K, check your timing belt regularly.
If you just change new ones, make sure the new ones aren't in storage for years or more importantly, they're giving your second hand (in other case, cheat you).

Another thing to look out for is Rubber Hose and Brake Hose, Brake Hose would go faster.
My previous Wira Rubber Hose leaked due to "age", my coolant leaked. Luckily the Air-Cond guy I went to is a very nice and honest person, he help me identify the problem (which is hidden quite deep inside), and tell me that I could have it replace for only few ringgit.
Take care of these "hoses" or "aging" parts, it's a messed when they give way, imagine if it happens on your long journey and in the midnight, worst when something bad happens.

I also experience losing brake fluid completely, luckily I've almost reach my brother's aparment. If it was on the highway...

how come this Siang Hin so money & degil?

really bad luck suiteng met this type of irresponsible work shop

sue sue sue!! sue Siang Him 9 9!

This post has been edited by iRonTech: Mar 25 2008, 11:54 AM

i nearly change my rim & tire at
Sin Siang Hin (M) Sdn Bhd
2, Medan Midah, Taman Midah
56000 Cheras, Kuala Lumpur

lucky dint...some more is on sunday afternoon

Yeah, I bought a new car. But still wanna fix this wan. And my mindset is "just fix my damm car!" They are the one who screwed it up!

What's the different between rubber hose and brake hose?

They already have bad repo, just that I didn't google before going It's near my house ma...

I think changing tayar and small service is no problem. Dun let them touch your engine can already

Senior Manager from the HQ called me ask me to send my car there. So I'm sending it after work

Let's see how things goes

suiteng, u shd have bring me along, tink they bully female

2-3 days not enough for a full overhaul lah.

At least 5-7 days if you want a decent job.

just saw the thread today

1. tek tek tek tek sound u mentioned, it is from the tappet not tighten properly (which might be caused by bent valve)

2. idle speed become high, this is because they messed up the timing belt teeth by 1-2 teeth and ur engine cant idle properly, so they turn up the idle to "solve problem"

3. no power - caused by bent valve, misaligned timing belt or they messed up ur carb tuning

4. vibrate - misaligned timing belt, broken mounting

btw, wat do u mean by the engine went senget when they first start ur car?

imo, they should change a complete halfcut engine head for u..those valve and tappet in ur head should be damaged by the idiot

This post has been edited by athlonxp: Mar 25 2008, 11:01 PM

hope the SM won't ask u change the whole kancil

I rather bring my whole gang along Got

Just sent to HQ yesterday. Will update again. If got anything the SM himself will call me wor.. but I doubt it.

Wah thanks for all the info. I'm not sure about halfcut engine but they said the have already done top overhaul. But based on suggestions here, overhaul takes days.. but I sent there for 1 day only gao dim. Maybe I got cheated?

1. Noted, will tell the mechanic. So far checked valve and mounting only. Didn't mention tappet

2. Timing belt teeth - broken teeth? Means the roda like thing izzit?

3. Noted. Already asked them to check on the tuning.

4. Mounting memang sudah broken. They said changed already but it's still vibrating. Told the HQ, waiting for result.

On his bill, no problem

my condolence 2 ur beloved kancil~
hope tat they can able 2 resurrect it~

good luck. hope the HQ fixes it for you.

the strongest twin cam + turbo kancil (suiteng's SLK) on da way

My logs :
8 Mar - Sent to Siang Hin for service at 12pm. Went to lunch from 1pm to 2pm. Observe the fixing from 2pm onwards. Saw with my own eyes they screwed up at 5pm.
10 Mar - Collect the car at 7pm. Test drive during traffic jam from Siang Hin Jln Tun Razak road to Jalan Loke Yew, car died when idle at the ramp up to UE3. Died during idle another time near the junction to my place.
11 Mar - Sent back to workshop to fix the die when idle problem.
12 Mar - Took back the car at 6pm.
13 Mar - Noticed engine oil leakage. Sent back to workshop.
14 Mar - Took back car, bring back to apt. Get a mechanic friend to help me check, valve is unchanged, no overhaul is done. Pissed off.
16 Mar - Back from outstation. Sent car to workshop.
17 Mar - Took back car. They claimed that overhaul is done. Noticed the RPM is way higher than normal. Sent back to workshop.
18 Mar - Took back car. RPM stable at 1 this time. Test drive in traffic jam and on highways. Still shaky when reach 90kmph.
24 Mar - Still no power and shaky, ask mechanic friend to help me see. He said no overhaul is done and I'm taken for a ride. And my engine oil left half tank only! The oil is leaking from valve bearing!
25 Mar - Sent to workshop together with my mechanic friend. They discussed things that is damaged and need change. Left it there.
27 Mar - Went to collect car with mechanic friend. Overhaul is done, leakage is fixed. Still gonna test drive for a few days.
2 Apr - Send back to workshop, engine oil leakage is significant when engine is hot.
3 Apr - Got back my car, they fixed the valve bearing again. Let's test drive and see how it goes.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 4 2008, 09:52 AM

remember update us~

opsss.wrong post....

This post has been edited by otherwise: Mar 28 2008, 09:26 PM

hv u applied AAM member not??

No leh...

Noticed leakage when engine is hot. Aih...

time to change engine already
go buy a l200 halfcut

Sending back to workshop Leakage is significant when engine is hot

Rm70 yearly...go apply to avoid such 'black shop'

how come? y the workshop so.....

Balik jor... testing another time If this passes 8th April they are not gonna warranty me anymore and I gotta go back to tribunal

actually , timing belt snap could cause damage to engine, am i right?

about the car shaky problem when 1k rpm at idle, i guess its the timing problem, usually old car has the problem and low timing can save some petrol isnt it? maybe i am wrong. probably the mechanic tuned lower timing for u.

Thanks for the reply. That problem solved already. Now wanna solve the leakage problem only

interest story (altho is a sad one...), hope Justice is on ur side at the end of the day, i had timing belt putus experience b4 on sunday evening, i can image how inconvenient it is even just for 1-2days......

no news from tribunal yet?

Tribunal is helping, else they won't fix it for me So far so good, driving had been smooth and no leakage spotted. Warranty period over for me (they said 1 month), so if any problem after they won't be responsible. Sucky excuse, but have to accept.

Pray that nothing will go wrong

been following your sad story for so long..blady f*** up workshop so irresponsible..after they "fix" my car,confirm i burn that place down ready..hope your ride is in good condition..if still got prob after warranty period,will tribunal be able to help?

Now we are still arguing whether the warranty starts on 8th March and end on 8th April OR start counting from the day I got back my car. You know how licik they are lah...

can Vroom Vroom redy la?

how come? tot the warranty should start from the day you collect ur CLK??

Can vroom vroom nicely now lor.. Hopefully nothing big will happen.

Warranty should start from the day I collect my car, but...

They say they won't warrant it liao But if anything happens now, tribunal will still be on my side.

My advise to you sis and bro here ...

1. Its best to sent your car to your own trusted repair shop and claim the repair money... You should not have left your car to an untrustworthy people like them ... ?? They will definetely screw it more... Use the tribunal to claim your money... Much easier then asking them to repair it .... At least you have a car to use...

2. Its best to have a trusted repairman phone at hand .... Some may even come on site to help you out ... Pay a little extra but hey its worth it.... Most car breakdown can be repair on site...Not permanently but at least you car drive it to the trusted car shop...

3. Always check your timing belt at intervals... Better safe then sorry right...

Advice is, go to the bigger proton edar SC. Don't go to authorized SC like Siang Hin. They might give you fake things