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post Mar 12 2008, 08:24 PM


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just wanted to know have anybody recheck their spm result by paying the government to check back your spm paper.
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Just another forumer wanting to know how the process works. As I think I was a victim of ultimate biasness for the marking and also grading of my English paper.

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too bad. i've got 9As and 1B and I'm very satisfied with it. so, i didn't recheck my papers. in fact, none of my schoolmates' going to recheck their papers. =/
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QUOTE(leelc99 @ Mar 12 2008, 08:51 PM)
too bad. i've got 9As and 1B and I'm very satisfied with it. so, i didn't recheck my papers. in fact, none of my schoolmates' going to recheck their papers. =/
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Well, I congratulate you for your achievement. But I seriously think there was some biasness involved in the marking of my paper. Therefore, SOMEONE please help me, please.
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post Mar 12 2008, 10:24 PM


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guys.. where can i check the spm result online or through sms?
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QUOTE(pedas @ Mar 12 2008, 10:24 PM)
guys.. where can i check the spm result online or through sms?
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only stpm you can check online n sms i think
spm can't

correct me if im wrong
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QUOTE(D_s_X @ Mar 12 2008, 08:30 PM)
Just another forumer wanting to know how the process works. As I think I was a victim of ultimate biasness for the marking and also grading of my English paper.
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can you elaborate further? what did you get for English?
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i'm going to try to answer this for both SPM and STPM. perhaps mods could combine these two threads.

u can request for a review of ur exam papers at lembaga peperiksaan malaysia (LPM). to do that:

i. first, get the form called Borang Semak Semula SPM 2007. u can get this at most schools, jabatan pendidikan negeri, kaunter semak semula lembaga peperiksaan malaysia or online at http://www.moe.gov.my/lpm/

ii. fill in the form (duh?). include the stuff that is required in the form. this includes 2 envelopes with ur own address with 50sen stamps.

iii. send in the form with a payment of RM50 per subject (wang pos, kiriman, bank draft only. no cash or personal cheques). address the recipient as Pengarah Peperiksaan.

iv. send it in to

Pengarah Peperiksaan,
Lembaga Peperiksaan Malaysia,
Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia,
Aras 8, Blok E 11,
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan,
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(U.P. Unit Peperiksaan SPM)

u have 30 days after SPM results was announced to send it in. u will get the results within 3 months.


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post Mar 12 2008, 11:27 PM


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QUOTE(e30 @ Mar 12 2008, 11:02 PM)
can you elaborate further? what did you get for English?
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He got an A1 for his English while he got B3 for GCE 'O English
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post Mar 13 2008, 12:34 AM


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I got A1 for my English and B4(i think) for GCE 'O' English too. What's wrong with that?
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post Mar 13 2008, 12:38 AM


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AFAIK GCE 'O' is the marks of your essay while the real grade is the overall marks of your paper. Maybe you didn't do that well in your essay? I've seen a lot of people scoring A1 in the overall grade and getting B and C's for the GCE one
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post Mar 13 2008, 12:43 AM


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Well, the problem now is that I've scored relativity high marks for my essay all along my high school life. Among the better ones, I dare say.
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:12 AM


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QUOTE(ahchak @ Mar 13 2008, 12:34 AM)
I got A1 for my English and B4(i think) for GCE 'O' English too. What's wrong with that?
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yea i got the same results as yours
i don't actually understand what GCE 'O' is , but well um...no complaints...
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:28 AM


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Yea. I also got no idea what is that for. My friend told me jokingly it's to prove our english standard.
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Well... I can tell you one thing.

Your GCE 'O' English result can be used overseas...while ur spm english result is most probably invalid overseas
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:33 AM


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I see. Since i'm not going anywhere, it's pretty useless for me, right?
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It's not useless... in fact, it's more useful than ur spm english result. heh
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:50 AM


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I see. But since i'm going university ,guess i'll just put it aside?

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QUOTE(ahchak @ Mar 13 2008, 01:33 AM)
I see. Since i'm not going anywhere, it's pretty useless for me, right?
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Frankly speaking to obtain scholarship it's just a + but as long as you get A1 in overall grade it won't affect you at all so in conclusion it's not really helpful unless you're applying for overseas colleges
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post Mar 13 2008, 12:49 PM


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have anybody recheck before their spm paper.
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:49 PM


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QUOTE(laszlo @ Mar 13 2008, 01:12 AM)
yea i got the same results as yours
i don't actually understand what GCE 'O' is , but well um...no complaints...
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GCE-O
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and the standard is base on O-level standard.
maybe u go went over sea they will see the GCE-o instead or ur SPM result Eng.
Correct me if im wrong
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:53 PM


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lolz if is overseas standard... i reli OMG>

i think the brits will say OMFG we phailed in educating msian
in english when they see how i write.. but still got a1 for gce-o biggrin.gif

o ya.. if u notice, in JPA they'll ask for GCE-O grade

btw, sometimes u write something which gets on the
nerve of examiners i think they'll just giv u a freaking low mark. after all theyre humans too right? sweat.gif

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post Mar 13 2008, 03:02 PM


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erm a b3 for GCE is quite good d la....... like my fren...... i thought his english was better than mine... but then... end up he got a b4...
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QUOTE(ahchak @ Mar 13 2008, 12:34 AM)
I got A1 for my English and B4(i think) for GCE 'O' English too. What's wrong with that?
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yea.. me too.. i got like 12 a's.. which is like straight a's.. (not all A1) and exclude my GCE 'O' which is a 3B.. damn it.. but isnt i shud be satisfied wif 12? and i was pretty sure of getting A1 for my bio and chem.. shud i check?


Added on March 13, 2008, 5:02 pmermm... at least a big relief after all tat stupid studying business and horror of results?

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Lol....my GCE-O got A2....guess I got lucky
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post Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM


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Need advice.. Contemplating to have my EST paper rechecked.. Do you think it's logical to get a B4 for your EST when you got a A1 for both English and GCE-O?

-frustrated..-

Help...

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post Mar 13 2008, 06:28 PM


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why do they have to make rechecking spm paper procedure so complicated.
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post Mar 13 2008, 06:38 PM


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May I ask that the GCE-O English paper can be recheck or resit?
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QUOTE(educationseeker @ Mar 13 2008, 06:28 PM)
why do they have to make rechecking spm paper procedure so complicated.
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Cause they're trying to deter us from applying to recheck? I see the procedure oso quite lazy le. tongue.gif But I want an A for my EST le!! -geram-
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QUOTE(Justbeingblu3 @ Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM)
Need advice.. Contemplating to have my EST paper rechecked.. Do you think it's logical to get a B4 for your EST when you got a A1 for both English and GCE-O?

-frustrated..-

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I got A1 for my english too but b3 for my est...=______=''' quite dissapointed..
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QUOTE(Justbeingblu3 @ Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM)
Need advice.. Contemplating to have my EST paper rechecked.. Do you think it's logical to get a B4 for your EST when you got a A1 for both English and GCE-O?

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Yes. As EST is much different from English...
Bombastic words don't really help much in EST but Scientific terms do.
Writing EST essays require different method too..

Quoted from my teacher.
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QUOTE(educationseeker @ Mar 13 2008, 10:28 AM)
why do they have to make rechecking spm paper procedure so complicated.
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what is so complicated about it?

applying passport is harder.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Mar 13 2008, 01:49 PM)
GCE-O
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and the standard is base on O-level standard.
maybe u go went over sea they will see the GCE-o instead or ur SPM result Eng.
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This is where you are wrong. This GCE-O Levels English Paper is marked by our own Malaysian teachers.

It is no longer the one where we send overseas for grading (previously known as 1119 paper).

Now 1119 paper is now the "general" paper for English.



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QUOTE(Justbeingblu3 @ Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM)
Need advice.. Contemplating to have my EST paper rechecked.. Do you think it's logical to get a B4 for your EST when you got a A1 for both English and GCE-O?

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Help...
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FYI, EST is different from 1119 .....

for the info transfer part for example, you shouldnt put a full stop behind ur answer etc. for the essay part, you need scientific terms. if u use layman's terms, you wont fall into the a1 band.

and btw, the objective parts can be quite tricky especially if one's comprehension isnt good.

gce-o a1 means one's essay-writing ability is good, but does not necessarily prove one's comprehension skills.
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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Mar 13 2008, 07:23 PM)
Yes. As EST is much different from English...
Bombastic words don't really help much in EST but Scientific terms do.
Writing EST essays require different method too..

Quoted from my teacher.
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Does doing good for the past 2 years for EST in school count? I do realize the marking scheme is probably very different, but I still can't help feeling I deserve better. =.= Maybe I should just accept the fact then. Bah!

Oh, what are the chances of scoring even worse if you send your paper for recheck? Curious..
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QUOTE(Justbeingblu3 @ Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM)
Need advice.. Contemplating to have my EST paper rechecked.. Do you think it's logical to get a B4 for your EST when you got a A1 for both English and GCE-O?

-frustrated..-

Help...
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i am in the same boat here. i am going to appeal for est. for some reason i compare with other states...all have A2 easily..penang "not to say bias but i think there is some activities behind the scene probably due to lala reason" kena slashed badly on chinese n est especially top schools.
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I scored A1 in both English 1119 and EST but only a A2 for GCE-O. Having said that, some of my friends who got A1 for 1119 got 5C for their GCE-O, so it is hard to say. Its also important that you use idioms in your essay if not forget about an A in your GCE-O.

And about EST...DO NOT RECHECK! EST is nothing like English my friend. Your grammar can be worse than our PM's and still get an A tongue.gif You know why? They only take into the account scientific terms and key words that they highlight for each text. Your essays need to have ALL the points they give and EVERY point must have your own ELABORATION plus MORE additional information for extra input. That means each point you must have a MINIMUM of 3 'isi', and even then it is not guaranteed an A. I took 2 extra exam pads from my pengawas because i ran out of pages. If you are one of those people who only used 3 or 4 pages, DONT RECHECK!
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hey all noobs...GCE-O is actually O-Levels english grading, which is actually quite equivalent to the O-Levels English, except that they concentrate on your essay.

As for those pro-english-EST-noob ppl who want to appeal for EST paper recheck, I suggest you better don't waste your time. IMO, you most probably deserved your grade, which is anything but A1 because your scientific stuff just aint enough. If you think your 1119 essay getting A1 is proof that you deserve A1 in EST, I think you are pretty much WRONG. Please don't spam around on wanting a recheck of the EST paper just becuz of the your thinking that 'I got A1 for my 1119 but A2/B/C/D for EST. I think i deserve an A1 for my EST!'. If your scientific terms and facts aren't enough, you just won't get the grade.

1119 essay and EST essay are altogether a different ballgame. So quit whining and get on wif life. In fact, you run the risk of having your original grade downgraded if you get it rechecked. This is because they have been quite lenient when marking your paper for the first time. Bug them again and I think they will 100% 'ikut skema' or 'follow the marking scheme'. By that time that happens, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

If you are just not up to the mark, there is no use pushing it. It may just get worse, like what the FA of England did when they not only didn't reduce the ban on Jeremie Aliadiere of Middlesbrough, but in fact increased it. Think wisely b4 u act.

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Mar 13 2008, 11:53 PM)
i am in the same boat here. i am going to appeal for est. for some reason i compare with other states...all have A2 easily..penang "not to say bias but i think there is some activities behind the scene probably due to lala reason" kena slashed badly on chinese n est especially top schools.
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you have got to be kidding me? Penang had excellent results. I have friends at SGGS and the majority of them scored very well for SPM especially 119. A lot of them got A1 for GCE-O shocking.gif
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QUOTE(highbury1913 @ Mar 14 2008, 12:31 AM)
I scored A1 in both English 1119 and EST but only a A2 for GCE-O. Having said that, some of my friends who got A1 for 1119 got 5C for their GCE-O, so it is hard to say. Its also important that you use idioms in your essay if not forget about an A in your GCE-O.

And about EST...DO NOT RECHECK! EST is nothing like English my friend. Your grammar can be worse than our PM's and still get an A tongue.gif  You know why? They only take into the account scientific terms and key words that they highlight for each text. Your essays need to have ALL the points they give and EVERY point must have your own ELABORATION plus MORE additional information for extra input. That means each point you must have a MINIMUM of 3 'isi', and even then it is not guaranteed an A.  I took 2 extra exam pads from my pengawas because i ran out of pages. If you are one of those people who only used 3 or 4 pages, DONT RECHECK!
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I scored EXACTLY the same with you; although not in the same yr with you.

About EST.. I believe it also depends on the elaboration of your points (I overwrote on the given answer sheet, but managed to squeeze in signature and "credentials") and how clearly you define them + a strong and confident conclusion.

If the paper format hasnt changed since 05, u need to score well in the objective part and try to gain as many marks in the essay portion, which is critical to getting A1.

According to my EST teacher, unless you really wrote well (and you know it) its best not to remark EST because there's the risk of the new grade being lower than what it was.
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luckily i read chemistry before est and the crap on polymers came out so i can crap scientifically and logically!! rclxm9.gif got a1 for those crap i wrote!!

should i recheck my moral a2?
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QUOTE(Owen Lai (OL) @ Mar 14 2008, 12:32 AM)
hey all noobs...GCE-O is actually O-Levels english grading, which is actually quite equivalent to the O-Levels English, except that they concentrate on your essay.

As for those pro-english-EST-noob ppl who want to appeal for EST paper recheck, I suggest you better don't waste your time. IMO, you most probably deserved your grade, which is anything but A1 because your scientific stuff just aint enough. If you think your 1119 essay getting A1 is proof that you deserve A1 in EST, I think you are pretty much WRONG. Please don't spam around on wanting a recheck of the EST paper just becuz of the your thinking that 'I got A1 for my 1119 but A2/B/C/D for EST. I think i deserve an A1 for my EST!'. If your scientific terms and facts aren't enough, you just won't get the grade.

1119 essay and EST essay are altogether a different ballgame. So quit whining and get on wif life. In fact, you run the risk of having your original grade downgraded if you get it rechecked. This is because they have been quite lenient when marking your paper for the first time. Bug them again and I think they will 100% 'ikut skema' or 'follow the marking scheme'. By that time that happens, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

If you are just not up to the mark, there is no use pushing it. It may just get worse, like what the FA of England did when they not only didn't reduce the ban on Jeremie Aliadiere of Middlesbrough, but in fact increased it. Think wisely b4 u act.
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Boy, oh boy. YOU do sound like an arrogant person. The purpose of actually this thread is about the process of having your SPM papers regraded and hopefully upgraded. Have you ever taken into account that the person who might just so happen get a B for EST just because the grader is rushing through, not thinking carefully about the contents and perhaps the vocabulary (in this case, the scientific terminology)? Yeah, I might have got an A1 for EST, however, I've read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive. Sure, there might be a chance of downgrade is someone decides to have their EST paper regraded, but it's their paper, why worry for them? You call them to quit whining and get on with life? Look at your own signature, degrading other peoples blog, what's the point? Quit whining and get on with life =)

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Oh yea, another thing is, how do they actually grade your essay papers for English 1119/GCE-O Levels? I am left really dumb-founded after learning that my GCE-O Levels English was not up to my expectations as I previously scored high marks for my English 1119/GCE-O Levels paper. Can really idioms get you marks? Isn't it a bit
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QUOTE(Owen Lai (OL) @ Mar 14 2008, 12:32 AM)
hey all noobs...GCE-O is actually O-Levels english grading, which is actually quite equivalent to the O-Levels English, except that they concentrate on your essay.

As for those pro-english-EST-noob ppl who want to appeal for EST paper recheck, I suggest you better don't waste your time. IMO, you most probably deserved your grade, which is anything but A1 because your scientific stuff just aint enough. If you think your 1119 essay getting A1 is proof that you deserve A1 in EST, I think you are pretty much WRONG. Please don't spam around on wanting a recheck of the EST paper just becuz of the your thinking that 'I got A1 for my 1119 but A2/B/C/D for EST. I think i deserve an A1 for my EST!'. If your scientific terms and facts aren't enough, you just won't get the grade.

1119 essay and EST essay are altogether a different ballgame. So quit whining and get on wif life. In fact, you run the risk of having your original grade downgraded if you get it rechecked. This is because they have been quite lenient when marking your paper for the first time. Bug them again and I think they will 100% 'ikut skema' or 'follow the marking scheme'. By that time that happens, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

If you are just not up to the mark, there is no use pushing it. It may just get worse, like what the FA of England did when they not only didn't reduce the ban on Jeremie Aliadiere of Middlesbrough, but in fact increased it. Think wisely b4 u act.
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Don't you DARE judge me and call me a noob when you DON'T EVEN KNOW ME. Yes I may be strong in English. Does that mean I'm instantly weak in Science? I most probably deserve my grade because my scientific stuff ain't enough? How would YOU know? Did YOU mark my paper? We are here just stating our mind on CONTEMPLATING to recheck. And how are we spamming on wanting a recheck on a thread that IS discussing about rechecking results?

You have NO RIGHT to call anyone a NOOB. Just because you're apparently someone very happy with your life, that makes you someone grand and others a noob? Asking people to quit whining and to get on with life when YOU'RE the one whining about some 'crap-noob' blogs. Grow up!

Why don't YOU think wisely before SAYING anything next time.
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Owen Lai, this is not your first time creating havoc in EE. I advise you to filter your words before posting, and share if you wants to. You don't need to go to the extent of calling people noobs and etc.

As for the rest, just ignore it, if you think he is arrogant and etc.
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QUOTE(highbury1913 @ Mar 14 2008, 12:31 AM)
I scored A1 in both English 1119 and EST but only a A2 for GCE-O. Having said that, some of my friends who got A1 for 1119 got 5C for their GCE-O, so it is hard to say. Its also important that you use idioms in your essay if not forget about an A in your GCE-O.

And about EST...DO NOT RECHECK! EST is nothing like English my friend. Your grammar can be worse than our PM's and still get an A tongue.gif  You know why? They only take into the account scientific terms and key words that they highlight for each text. Your essays need to have ALL the points they give and EVERY point must have your own ELABORATION plus MORE additional information for extra input. That means each point you must have a MINIMUM of 3 'isi', and even then it is not guaranteed an A.  I took 2 extra exam pads from my pengawas because i ran out of pages. If you are one of those people who only used 3 or 4 pages, DONT RECHECK!
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lawl, i didnt use extra sheets and i got a1. i think then, the problem of EST lies in the info transfer part. coz you must have technique... like how you answer Moral.

QUOTE(seruzz2003 @ Mar 14 2008, 01:23 AM)
luckily i read chemistry before est and the crap on polymers came out so i can crap scientifically and logically!! rclxm9.gif got a1 for those crap i wrote!!

should i recheck my moral a2?
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i didnt even write bout polymers from chemistry coz i didnt even touch it for SPM.. lucky a1 then. whistling.gif

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Boy, oh boy. YOU do sound like an arrogant person. The purpose of actually this thread is about the process of having your SPM papers regraded and hopefully upgraded. Have you ever taken into account that the person who might just so happen get a B for EST just because the grader is rushing through, not thinking carefully about the contents and perhaps the vocabulary (in this case, the scientific terminology)? Yeah, I might have got an A1 for EST, however, I've read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive. Sure, there might be a chance of downgrade is someone decides to have their EST paper regraded, but it's their paper, why worry for them? You call them to quit whining and get on with life? Look at your own signature, degrading other peoples blog, what's the point? Quit whining and get on with life =)

Anyway, back to topic

Oh yea, another thing is, how do they actually grade your essay papers for English 1119/GCE-O Levels? I am left really dumb-founded after learning that my GCE-O Levels English was not up to my expectations as I previously scored high marks for my English 1119/GCE-O Levels paper. Can really idioms get you marks? Isn't it a bit
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gce-o, you dont need idioms. living proof? me. i hate idioms, in karangan or essay. I like to write factual essays, which prolly means that I dont like twisty and flowery languages. straight to the point, and a1 gce-o is mine. tho i was quite surprised, coz i made some mistakes actually...
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bahh.... I always knew it. Same here, always hated idioms; kinda cliched, you know, everyone is using the same ones all around =/ BUT, I my marks could have got deducted due to the cynicism and sarcasm I have brought throughout the whole essay. But hey, it's me =0
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QUOTE(educationseeker @ Mar 12 2008, 08:24 PM)
just wanted to know have anybody recheck their spm result by paying the government to check back your spm paper.
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i've checked that before but its not gonna work cuz they wont admit that they marked wrongly...... i retake the test and guess what, i got A for that... can u imagine how unfair for me at those time.... waste money and energy only..... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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wow..
maybe those who really deserve the grades should recheck bah...
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Mar 14 2008, 12:06 PM)
lawl, i didnt use extra sheets and i got a1. i think then, the problem of EST lies in the info transfer part. coz you must have technique... like how you answer Moral.


i didnt even write bout polymers from chemistry coz i didnt even touch it for SPM.. lucky a1 then.
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Technique? EST=A1, Moral=7D brows.gif

I dont even study EST in class! 1 day before the paper was the first time I ever TRIED to learn EST. I'm an Accounts student so I was taking a risk even taking the EST paper. Thank God, the EST teachers in my school were nice enough to help me during their free time and I ended up getting that A1. Polymer- I just use the general knowledge la...Use logic.
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technique as in you must not have full stop in info transfer part. at least that's what i did tongue.gif anyone of you who used full stop in info transfer part got a1?

moral technique is way more ridiculous coz u cant just write like normal BM karangan kinda sentences. anyway its over so no point telling you now tongue.gif
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I think I did accidentally use a few full-stops in the data transfer parts, but I'm not sure.
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Like some of you i scored A1 for both EST and English 1119 paper . However i only got A2 for GCE 'O' levels . I however already had the feeling i would not get an A1 for it as it wasn't the best essay i could have wrote.

Lol my moral was pretty bad too ,4B >.< . Must be because i didn't bother to memorize nilais sleep.gif;
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QUOTE(Sey @ Mar 14 2008, 06:07 PM)
Like some of you i scored A1 for both EST and English 1119 paper . However i only got A2 for GCE 'O' levels . I however already had the feeling i would not get an A1 for it as it wasn't the best essay i could have wrote.

Lol my moral was pretty bad too ,4B >.< . Must be because i didn't bother to memorize nilais sleep.gif;
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I on the other hand have no idea on how I got an A for Moral =/ I never got past the C grade throughout my Form 4 and 5 life.
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Boy, oh boy. YOU do sound like an arrogant person. The purpose of actually this thread is about the process of having your SPM papers regraded and hopefully upgraded. Have you ever taken into account that the person who might just so happen get a B for EST just because the grader is rushing through, not thinking carefully about the contents and perhaps the vocabulary (in this case, the scientific terminology)? Yeah, I might have got an A1 for EST, however, I've read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive. Sure, there might be a chance of downgrade is someone decides to have their EST paper regraded, but it's their paper, why worry for them? You call them to quit whining and get on with life? Look at your own signature, degrading other peoples blog, what's the point? Quit whining and get on with life =)

Anyway, back to topic

Oh yea, another thing is, how do they actually grade your essay papers for English 1119/GCE-O Levels? I am left really dumb-founded after learning that my GCE-O Levels English was not up to my expectations as I previously scored high marks for my English 1119/GCE-O Levels paper. Can really idioms get you marks? Isn't it a bit
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nope, definitely not. Because 2.5-3 months is more than adequate time for the examiners to mark the papers and do a recheck as well as marks revision. FYI, my teacher, who was a marker himself, even told me that they were told to be lenient in marking because many student's points in the essay just didn't fit the bill. He added that if they were to follow the actual scheme, not even the best in school would get an A1. They pretty much ignore your super-duper vocabs n just close-in on whether you have the 'kata kunci' that they have n need to find in your answer, bro. And by any chance, how did you get to 'read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive' when their answer papers were already passed up after the exam? How do you define impressive in your terms? one man's meat is another man's poison. You may think their works are impressive but the examiners may think otherwise. I worry for them because I care, and care as a friend. I certainly don't like hearing or seeing people crying to their mummies after the recheck when they had to pay RM50(or more),wait for 3 months, only to find that their grades have been downgraded. Its a waste of time and money, and those two are in fact the most indispensible to humans on earth, thus wasting them are a no-no. Btw, did I degrade their blogs? I merely commented on them because they are irresponsible. Lok at their posts and u'll noe. Also, how can this thread 'regrade and 'upgrade' like you said when they aren't even the markers? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif




QUOTE(Justbeingblu3 @ Mar 14 2008, 02:03 AM)
Don't you DARE judge me and call me a noob when you DON'T EVEN KNOW ME. Yes I may be strong in English. Does that mean I'm instantly weak in Science? I most probably deserve my grade because my scientific stuff ain't enough? How would YOU know? Did YOU mark my paper? We are here just stating our mind on CONTEMPLATING to recheck. And how are we spamming on wanting a recheck on a thread that IS discussing about rechecking results?

You have NO RIGHT to call anyone a NOOB. Just because you're apparently someone very happy with your life, that makes you someone grand and others a noob? Asking people to quit whining and to get on with life when YOU'RE the one whining about some 'crap-noob' blogs. Grow up!

Why don't YOU think wisely before SAYING anything next time.
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Yup, don't judge you when I don't even know you. Yes, you are right, I have no right. But one obvious point you neglected in the heat of your anger is that I DID NOT mention anyone being a noob out there. If you are reacting to it, then i say you are merely admitting that you are indeed a noob. Please note that I didn't say any specific person here being noob. And yes, you deserve your grade because your scientific facts aren't enuf. what proof do you have that you have enough to earn an A1? language skills alone just aint sufficient. Trust me on that. I did not mark your paper, but i know because as i stated earlier, my teacher told me so and also that i can think for myself what exactly happened. Ok fine. I retract the 'spamming' statement. But did i whine about your aforementioned noob bloggers that i put as signature? Oh ya, one more thing, just how good is your english because on a pride-saving-yet-arrogant tone you mentioned that 'I may be strong in English'?



QUOTE(D_s_X @ Mar 14 2008, 01:29 AM)
Oh yea, another thing is, how do they actually grade your essay papers for English 1119/GCE-O Levels? I am left really dumb-founded after learning that my GCE-O Levels English was not up to my expectations as I previously scored high marks for my English 1119/GCE-O Levels paper. Can really idioms get you marks? Isn't it a bit
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Yes, idioms can definitely get you extra marks. They grade by your vocab, language fluency, writing flair, thoughts and ideas input, idioms used and their suitability, as well as handwriting. As for the GCE-O chaps, they may just grade your on stricter terms. They are after all, the original creators of the english language, the ones who brought english to Malaya/Malaysia and now the world, and responsible for the grading of quality of english that we use i our essays. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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nope, definitely not. Because 2.5-3 months is more than adequate time for the examiners to mark the papers and do a recheck as well as marks revision. FYI, my teacher, who was a marker himself, even told me that they were told to be lenient in marking because many student's points in the essay just didn't fit the bill. He added that if they were to follow the actual scheme, not even the best in school would get an A1. They pretty much ignore your super-duper vocabs n just close-in on whether you have the 'kata kunci' that they have n need to find in your answer, bro. And by any chance, how did you get to 'read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive' when their answer papers were already passed up after the exam? How do you define impressive in your terms? one man's meat is another man's poison. You may think their works are impressive but the examiners may think otherwise. I worry for them because I care, and care as a friend. I certainly don't like hearing or seeing people crying to their mummies after the recheck when they had to pay RM50(or more),wait for 3 months, only to find that their grades have been downgraded. Its a waste of time and money, and those two are in fact the most indispensible to humans on earth, thus wasting them are a no-no. Btw, did I degrade their blogs? I merely commented on them because they are irresponsible. Lok at their posts and u'll noe.
Yup, don't judge you when I don't even know you. Yes, you are right, I have no right. But one obvious point you neglected in the heat of your anger is that I DID NOT mention anyone being a noob out there. If you are reacting to it, then i say you are merely admitting that you are indeed a noob. Please note that I didn't say any specific person here being noob. And yes, you deserve your grade because your scientific facts aren't enuf. what proof do you have that you have enough to earn an A1? language skills alone just aint sufficient. Trust me on that. I did not mark your paper, but i know because as i stated earlier, my teacher told me so and also that i can think for myself what exactly happened. Ok fine. I retract the 'spamming' statement. But did i whine about your aforementioned noob bloggers that i put as signature? Oh ya, one more thing, just how good is your english because on a pride-saving-yet-arrogant tone you mentioned that 'I may be strong in English'?
Yes, idioms can definitely get you extra marks. They grade by your vocab, language fluency, writing flair, thoughts and ideas input, idioms used and their suitability, as well as handwriting. As for the GCE-O chaps, they may just grade your on stricter terms. They are after all, the original creators of the english language, the ones who brought english to Malaya/Malaysia and now the world, and responsible for the grading of quality of english that we use i our essays. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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hahaha.
i never used any idioms in my essays, GCE-O was still A1.
i wrote in an insanely incoherent abstract way and i was SO happy that the examiner appreciated it.
my teacher read it and was like.. "YOU CRAAAAZY AH WRITE LIKE THAT."
but still A1 nonetheless.

most of my SPM English tuition students, i advise them to be creative with what they write, just use your vocabulary well. it's great to read essays that aren't pretentious and seem to have been copy-pasted right out of the dictionary. examiners appreciate the creativity. think of it this way, marking so many boring papers from people who write the textbook way that was taught to them in classrooms, then they get your paper and BAM! it's original and eloquent. big fat instant A1 for you.

if you are to use idioms, just make sure they're in the right context and that they're not cliche.
that's my personal pet peeve. cliched and pretentious writing.
irritates me to the core.


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hahaha.
i never used any idioms in my essays, GCE-O was still A1.
i wrote in an insanely incoherent abstract way and i was SO happy that the examiner appreciated it.
my teacher read it and was like.. "YOU CRAAAAZY AH WRITE LIKE THAT."
but still A1 nonetheless.

most of my SPM English tuition students, i advise them to be creative with what they write, just use your vocabulary well. it's great to read essays that aren't pretentious and seem to have been copy-pasted right out of the dictionary. examiners appreciate the creativity. think of it this way, marking so many boring papers from people who write the textbook way that was taught to them in classrooms, then they get your paper and BAM! it's original and eloquent. big fat instant A1 for you.

if you are to use idioms, just make sure they're in the right context and that they're not cliche.
that's my personal pet peeve. cliched and pretentious writing.
irritates me to the core.
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BLAAAAH, I wrote it in a sort of abstract way too sad.gif

Ohyeah, OwenLai, did you know that most English words are derived from Latin? The Brits did not create English.

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They grade by your vocab, language fluency, writing flair, thoughts and ideas input, idioms used and their suitability, as well as handwriting. As for the GCE-O chaps, they may just grade your on stricter terms.


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Ohya, OwenLai, I was talking about regrading my GCE-O Levels paper, not my EST paper.
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i dun think there's way to recheck GCE-O Levels paper.
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I sit for my SPM this year but my school scored brilliantly, 70% of the Science Stream students scored 7a's or above and 30% scoring straight a's with 10% achieveing straight a1's which I find incredible. Hope I can follow the footsteps of my seniors and especially the overall top scorer who got 16a1's!
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bah , just forget about it.
I've never failed to get 85 and above for my EST in school , and then in SPM ..... voila ! i got an A2 doh.gif

basically just your luck and all. live with it .

ps : my moral was a phailure at 5C. so yea , conclusion is, no technique needed in EST tongue.gif
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no technique? lolx.. i got ntg to say.. coz .. u getting 85 usually, in school , and yet in SPM u got a2. not technique then must be SPM objective questions super duper hard or smtg.
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BLAAAAH, I wrote it in a sort of abstract way too sad.gif

Ohyeah, OwenLai, did you know that most English words are derived from Latin? The Brits did not create English.
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My oh my, some is going loco here trying to antagonise me. You also knew that they 'derived from Latin'. This essentially meant that they borrowed from Latin. But borrowing to make something new, isn't that creating? Are you suggesting that the ancient Greeks spoke and wrote in 'English' like what we are doing now? Or even if its not, are you suggesting that they spoke old English using words like 'thy', 'thou' and etc? Please keep to the topic, Mr Smartypants.

Ohya, OwenLai, I was talking about regrading my GCE-O Levels paper, not my EST paper.
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You know what? I think you are seriously missing the plot, my fren. When I quoted you, you were talking about EST. EST here, EST there. I didn't even see a mention of GCE-O English until the second paragraph. Plus, my points on using suitable idioms, writing flair n etc, arent they relevant to GCE-O English? For EST those in fact don't matter so much but for GCE-O English, those are essential because they are language skills. I wonder did you even check where you quoted me and where the quoting from me fits?

Please, don't simply quote around and post one or two liners. If you think that is contribution, I think you are just spamming around, trying to increase post count. PLUS, trying to antagonise me as well, and I'm not buying any bit of it. You are barking up the wrong tree, or person, mister. In fact, I hate MUTTS.


On another note, if you are thinking of having your moral papers rechecked, please dig through your memories to ascertain whether you put enuf n suitable kata kunci and suitable nilai or not. Because I heard they had been lenient as well. This is an advice. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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Yup, don't judge you when I don't even know you. Yes, you are right, I have no right. But one obvious point you neglected in the heat of your anger is that I DID NOT mention anyone being a noob out there. If you are reacting to it, then i say you are merely admitting that you are indeed a noob. Please note that I didn't say any specific person here being noob. And yes, you deserve your grade because your scientific facts aren't enuf. what proof do you have that you have enough to earn an A1? language skills alone just aint sufficient. Trust me on that. I did not mark your paper, but i know because as i stated earlier, my teacher told me so and also that i can think for myself what exactly happened. Ok fine. I retract the 'spamming' statement. But did i whine about your aforementioned noob bloggers that i put as signature? Oh ya, one more thing, just how good is your english because on a pride-saving-yet-arrogant tone you mentioned that 'I may be strong in English'?
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As for those pro-english-EST-noob ppl who want to appeal for EST paper recheck
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So I assume you were addressing air when you said the above statement? No. I believe you were addressing people who stated they did well in English, but not in EST, and considered appealing for it. I am one of them. Therefore I believe you were calling me a noob? Do correct me if I'm truly mistaken.

What you put as your signature may not seem like whining, but it does sound like it. Also, bloggers have the freedom of speech. If you oppose them, why give them free publicity and bad-talking them in your signature anyways?

And on account on my A1 on English and GCE-O, I do believe I may be strong in English. What proof do you have on your claim to own 'The True Pro's blog'?
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For those you are thinking of re-checking your EST paper, don't bother. EST is a waste of time, does not show how well you do in English and does not show how strong you are in Science. It is one of the stupidest subject ever, along with Moral.

I did my SPM in 2006 and I achieved A1 for English, GCE-O and EST. I read a post of someone writing over 3 pages for the EST essay. Let me stress that this is NOT necessary. I've had a friend who wrote about 5 pages and achieved a B4. Some examiners hate it when you write so much, and you also run a risk of going out of topic or crapping about some nonsense. The best way is to stay in the space given(in EST, you have only like 2-3 pages for your essay in the booklet). Remember, quality beats quantity. Be precise and do not bit around the bush. You are not writing a thesis.

For 1119 (GCE-O), you do not necessarily need to write a hundred idioms to get A1. This paper is based on your mind and how well you can use English to describe want you want. It is more of your skills and ideas rather than (copy+paste+use what others have done). Thus, the best way to actually score in this paper is to pick the (a)story or (b)one word question. If you answered the question such as "the pros and cons of television", you might not achieve a good grade as almost everyone will come up with generic answers.

Concerning the re-checking of papers: It is wise to only re-check them if you are 100% sure that you don't deserve the grade. Eg: Recheck for papers such as Bio, Chem, Maths..etc because you can either be right or wrong. Rechecking language papers are a bit risky as your grade might get downgraded as you never knew whether you (a)went out of topic (b)made too many grammar mistakes ©uninteresting/generic


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i think est is rubbish too. i rechecked and the grade didn't change. once u start applying to uni, no one really gives a hoot as to what you got for est. and i saw that being good in english doesn't always equate to good est results. in fact, u might do worse off. i've got a friend who writes beautiful essays but still got a b3 when other friends got totally minimal flair in writing got an a1. i do not see any correlations there. huh.
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post Mar 15 2008, 10:35 AM


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anyone recheck before spm paper.mind sharing your experience.i wanted to recheck my economic and chemistry.

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Mar 14 2008, 09:31 PM)
no technique? lolx.. i got ntg to say.. coz .. u getting 85 usually, in school , and yet in SPM u got a2. not technique then must be SPM objective questions super duper hard or smtg.
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actually the main problem was i forgot what way to write it . cause just before SPM , got tons of people say that the report format change sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Owen Lai (OL) @ Mar 15 2008, 12:21 AM)
You know what? I think you are seriously missing the plot, my fren. When I quoted you, you were talking about EST. EST here, EST there. I didn't even see a mention of GCE-O English until the second paragraph. Plus, my points on using suitable idioms, writing flair n etc, arent they relevant to GCE-O English? For EST those in fact don't matter so much but for GCE-O English, those are essential because they are language skills. I wonder did you even check where you quoted me and where the quoting from me fits?

Please, don't simply quote around and post one or two liners. If you think that is contribution, I think you are just spamming around, trying to increase post count. PLUS, trying to antagonise me as well, and I'm not buying any bit of it. You are barking up the wrong tree, or person, mister. In fact, I hate MUTTS.
On another note, if you are thinking of having your moral papers rechecked, please dig through your memories to ascertain whether you put enuf n suitable kata kunci and suitable nilai or not. Because I heard they had been lenient as well. This is an advice. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Please, dude. I've been talking about it in the first page. Look who's talking =)

My previous posts about EST were just about merely defending those, because your initial statement was a bit rude and harsh IMO. You might have think that I am antagonising you, but still, you yourself and your language are the own factors on why you think you are antagonised. You've just been too rude, and I can't standby to see that. Yes, I know EST is a topic where all the facts are needed. BUT what if the student wrote it? I would think that he deserved better.

Oh yea, GCE-O Levels English is wierd. I've seen a few people with proficient in English, often getting A2s and B3s while the non-regular speakers and writers get A1s and A2s. I seriously don't get this. Have you "heard" from someone how they mark English?
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QUOTE(highbury1913 @ Mar 14 2008, 12:53 AM)
you have got to be kidding me? Penang had excellent results. I have friends at SGGS and the majority of them scored very well for SPM especially 119. A lot of them got A1 for GCE-O shocking.gif
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yeah SGGS is an english school. mind you i study in all chinese school. every year theres one centre out of two...get slashed badly. politics my friend.
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post Mar 16 2008, 12:52 AM


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just recheck...no harm doing it. at least you won't live to regret (for not rechecking) later in life...
two years ago i got 10A1 and 1A2 in BM and i rechecked, coz i always did consistently well in school.
they sent the results in less than 2 weeks...(erm...efficient or didn't even bother rechecking?) go figure...
anyway, the results remain the same...

**off topic** 5C and above is Credit right?
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post Mar 16 2008, 10:22 PM


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hey,

can anyone clarify whether there's a risk of my grades dropping lower after a recheck?

anyone can clarify? especially those with experience

thanks

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i think last time my school teacher told me tat if after recheck they gave u a lower grade, they will still stick wit ur higher grade... meaning tat either u get a higher grade or stick wit ur current grade... tat was 2 years back la...
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I accept the fact that i got b3 in gce-o and b3 in est(used to score A1 in school).My essay might be tedious and childish to the examiner but I have tried my best to write using flashback and still I get b3 for the gce-o.So sometimes you can't really complain because examiners are emotional too,after all they are still human.

Examination is not always fair,it is more like taking a snapshot of your abilities.I have passed the CAE and yet I get B3 for both gce and est.So you can't really complain,results in exams are not always the reflection of your true ability.And bear in mind that,you might have not done well that day.You might have been in low form that day that you couldn't perform like you did everytime.

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I got a1 for 1119 gceo and A+ for english but the worst is my bio in which i got B ==
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guys, help me, i want to rechek my bm paper (B+) and what is "salinan markah pentaksiran berasaskan sekolah spm"?
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azwan92, I assume that that would be your copy of your 'lisan' cert/form.

Anyway, regarding the EST topic, it is indeed a weird subject. To score the EST paper, you must be brilliant in analysis & critical thinking. & yes, if you are good in English, that does not mean that you would be good in EST. I had a student who scored A1 in English but got B3 for EST & another who got A2 for both English & EST. EST is also quite hard to mark as there are a lot of points to be identified other than the language & content points.

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