hey all noobs...GCE-O is actually O-Levels english grading, which is actually quite equivalent to the O-Levels English, except that they concentrate on your essay.

As for those pro-english-EST-noob ppl who want to appeal for EST paper recheck, I suggest you better don't waste your time. IMO, you most probably deserved your grade, which is anything but A1 because your scientific stuff just aint enough. If you think your 1119 essay getting A1 is proof that you deserve A1 in EST, I think you are pretty much WRONG. Please don't spam around on wanting a recheck of the EST paper just becuz of the your thinking that 'I got A1 for my 1119 but A2/B/C/D for EST. I think i deserve an A1 for my EST!'. If your scientific terms and facts aren't enough, you just won't get the grade.

1119 essay and EST essay are altogether a different ballgame. So quit whining and get on wif life. In fact, you run the risk of having your original grade downgraded if you get it rechecked. This is because they have been quite lenient when marking your paper for the first time. Bug them again and I think they will 100% 'ikut skema' or 'follow the marking scheme'. By that time that happens, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

If you are just not up to the mark, there is no use pushing it. It may just get worse, like what the FA of England did when they not only didn't reduce the ban on Jeremie Aliadiere of Middlesbrough, but in fact increased it. Think wisely b4 u act.

hey all noobs...GCE-O is actually O-Levels english grading, which is actually quite equivalent to the O-Levels English, except that they concentrate on your essay.

As for those pro-english-EST-noob ppl who want to appeal for EST paper recheck, I suggest you better don't waste your time. IMO, you most probably deserved your grade, which is anything but A1 because your scientific stuff just aint enough. If you think your 1119 essay getting A1 is proof that you deserve A1 in EST, I think you are pretty much WRONG. Please don't spam around on wanting a recheck of the EST paper just becuz of the your thinking that 'I got A1 for my 1119 but A2/B/C/D for EST. I think i deserve an A1 for my EST!'. If your scientific terms and facts aren't enough, you just won't get the grade.

1119 essay and EST essay are altogether a different ballgame. So quit whining and get on wif life. In fact, you run the risk of having your original grade downgraded if you get it rechecked. This is because they have been quite lenient when marking your paper for the first time. Bug them again and I think they will 100% 'ikut skema' or 'follow the marking scheme'. By that time that happens, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

If you are just not up to the mark, there is no use pushing it. It may just get worse, like what the FA of England did when they not only didn't reduce the ban on Jeremie Aliadiere of Middlesbrough, but in fact increased it. Think wisely b4 u act.

I scored A1 in both English 1119 and EST but only a A2 for GCE-O. Having said that, some of my friends who got A1 for 1119 got 5C for their GCE-O, so it is hard to say. Its also important that you use idioms in your essay if not forget about an A in your GCE-O.

And about EST...DO NOT RECHECK! EST is nothing like English my friend. Your grammar can be worse than our PM's and still get an A   You know why? They only take into the account scientific terms and key words that they highlight for each text. Your essays need to have ALL the points they give and EVERY point must have your own ELABORATION plus MORE additional information for extra input. That means each point you must have a MINIMUM of 3 'isi', and even then it is not guaranteed an A.  I took 2 extra exam pads from my pengawas because i ran out of pages. If you are one of those people who only used 3 or 4 pages, DONT RECHECK!

luckily i read chemistry before est and the crap on polymers came out so i can crap scientifically and logically!! got a1 for those crap i wrote!!

should i recheck my moral a2?

Boy, oh boy. YOU do sound like an arrogant person. The purpose of actually this thread is about the process of having your SPM papers regraded and hopefully upgraded. Have you ever taken into account that the person who might just so happen get a B for EST just because the grader is rushing through, not thinking carefully about the contents and perhaps the vocabulary (in this case, the scientific terminology)? Yeah, I might have got an A1 for EST, however, I've read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive. Sure, there might be a chance of downgrade is someone decides to have their EST paper regraded, but it's their paper, why worry for them? You call them to quit whining and get on with life? Look at your own signature, degrading other peoples blog, what's the point? Quit whining and get on with life =)

Anyway, back to topic

Oh yea, another thing is, how do they actually grade your essay papers for English 1119/GCE-O Levels? I am left really dumb-founded after learning that my GCE-O Levels English was not up to my expectations as I previously scored high marks for my English 1119/GCE-O Levels paper. Can really idioms get you marks? Isn't it a bit

just wanted to know have anybody recheck their spm result by paying the government to check back your spm paper.

lawl, i didnt use extra sheets and i got a1. i think then, the problem of EST lies in the info transfer part. coz you must have technique... like how you answer Moral.


i didnt even write bout polymers from chemistry coz i didnt even touch it for SPM.. lucky a1 then.

Like some of you i scored A1 for both EST and English 1119 paper . However i only got A2 for GCE 'O' levels . I however already had the feeling i would not get an A1 for it as it wasn't the best essay i could have wrote.

Lol my moral was pretty bad too ,4B >.< . Must be because i didn't bother to memorize nilais ;

nope, definitely not. Because 2.5-3 months is more than adequate time for the examiners to mark the papers and do a recheck as well as marks revision. FYI, my teacher, who was a marker himself, even told me that they were told to be lenient in marking because many student's points in the essay just didn't fit the bill. He added that if they were to follow the actual scheme, not even the best in school would get an A1. They pretty much ignore your super-duper vocabs n just close-in on whether you have the 'kata kunci' that they have n need to find in your answer, bro. And by any chance, how did you get to 'read plenty of my friends' works and they were none the less impressive' when their answer papers were already passed up after the exam? How do you define impressive in your terms? one man's meat is another man's poison. You may think their works are impressive but the examiners may think otherwise. I worry for them because I care, and care as a friend. I certainly don't like hearing or seeing people crying to their mummies after the recheck when they had to pay RM50(or more),wait for 3 months, only to find that their grades have been downgraded. Its a waste of time and money, and those two are in fact the most indispensible to humans on earth, thus wasting them are a no-no. Btw, did I degrade their blogs? I merely commented on them because they are irresponsible. Lok at their posts and u'll noe.
Yup, don't judge you when I don't even know you. Yes, you are right, I have no right. But one obvious point you neglected in the heat of your anger is that I DID NOT mention anyone being a noob out there. If you are reacting to it, then i say you are merely admitting that you are indeed a noob. Please note that I didn't say any specific person here being noob. And yes, you deserve your grade because your scientific facts aren't enuf. what proof do you have that you have enough to earn an A1? language skills alone just aint sufficient. Trust me on that. I did not mark your paper, but i know because as i stated earlier, my teacher told me so and also that i can think for myself what exactly happened. Ok fine. I retract the 'spamming' statement. But did i whine about your aforementioned noob bloggers that i put as signature? Oh ya, one more thing, just how good is your english because on a pride-saving-yet-arrogant tone you mentioned that 'I may be strong in English'?
Yes, idioms can definitely get you extra marks. They grade by your vocab, language fluency, writing flair, thoughts and ideas input, idioms used and their suitability, as well as handwriting. As for the GCE-O chaps, they may just grade your on stricter terms. They are after all, the original creators of the english language, the ones who brought english to Malaya/Malaysia and now the world, and responsible for the grading of quality of english that we use i our essays.      

hahaha.
i never used any idioms in my essays, GCE-O was still A1.
i wrote in an insanely incoherent abstract way and i was SO happy that the examiner appreciated it.
my teacher read it and was like.. "YOU CRAAAAZY AH WRITE LIKE THAT."
but still A1 nonetheless.

most of my SPM English tuition students, i advise them to be creative with what they write, just use your vocabulary well. it's great to read essays that aren't pretentious and seem to have been copy-pasted right out of the dictionary. examiners appreciate the creativity. think of it this way, marking so many boring papers from people who write the textbook way that was taught to them in classrooms, then they get your paper and BAM! it's original and eloquent. big fat instant A1 for you.

if you are to use idioms, just make sure they're in the right context and that they're not cliche.
that's my personal pet peeve. cliched and pretentious writing.
irritates me to the core.

They pretty much ignore your super-duper vocabs n just close-in on whether you have the 'kata kunci' that they have n need to find in your answer, bro.

They grade by your vocab, language fluency, writing flair, thoughts and ideas input, idioms used and their suitability, as well as handwriting. As for the GCE-O chaps, they may just grade your on stricter terms.