I just bought mine from relative... Don't know the effect yet

This product seems to be a hot item in Penang area. There are other brands of such promoting scalar energy

Anybody brought these scalar energy pendant before?

Disclaimer: I'm not selling this

Hmmm... Sounds too gua... Especially the Energized water. Put the water glass under the guarantee card also will energized it...

I'm going to give it a try since there is a 30days money back guarantee. If not good I'll return it

how much is it? my mom bought something similar but it's biodisc glass. also the same shape as this..

For future reference, instead of posting three times in a row, use the edit button and add to your existing post. Reduces the chances of you getting reported for spamming.

Scalar energy cannot be quantified, cannot be measured, and cannot be proven to interact with matter. Similar to transverse waves vs longtitudinal waves for the solutions to Heaviside equations. Some say that the transverse wave solutions that are discarded is actually a source of free or untapped energy. Actually they're discarded because they have no physical use.

Same goes for scalar vs vector components of electromagnetic waves. Scalar waves carry no information if I'm not mistaken, no nett energy.

And also, you can't passively generate "scalar waves" with some magical disc. If you could, it would be a free energy device. That is, if the scalar energy can interact with matter in any way at all and produce electricity or any other form of usable energy.

I'm very, very skeptical of these scalar energy devices. Around a decade ago, there was this massive scam involving devices using "torsion waves". The "physics" behind these devices have been disproven, the scam artists have been identified, and gradually "torsion wave" and "torsion field" gadgets faded out of existence..

..only to re-appear as "scalar wave" and "scalar energy" devices. Guess why they can't sell these devices in the US while making the same claims. They will have crazy lawsuits and government injunctions against the sale of such devices before they can break even.

this kind of pendant really works?

Ok. Thanks for the notice

Btw, I thought there is a limit of 10 pic in one post right?

Ok, I slept with the pendant overnight...
This morning when I woke up, I feel lack of energy. Back and legs weak

I guess it must be this reason (as stated in the box)
Let's see how it goes for a few more days. On my neck now there is Phiten Tit Chain and this pendant. Phiten Tit chain has shown good result over increased of energy and reduced back pain overnight, but this pendant hasn't yet

...scary la...what the hell happen to earth now

Well, you can replace the word "scalar" with "religion" above and your post would still make sense.

But how come no one lawsuits against religion? Hmm... Oh yes, the built in "You did not pray hard enough" clause.

About this scalar thing, if it were so powerful, why are pharma and hospitals not bankrupt yet?

Wanna test it??

Buy one at random and don't read anything,sleep with it and see how you feel in the morning!!

Then compare what you found with whats written!!

ur effect so yeng edy ar..
nid wait a few weeks more to see the effects le..
we wait and see...hee

Ok, really sux! Whole day don't feel any good.

Just now took afternoon nap, nearly cannot wake up from bed. No energy...

This post has been edited by dzi921: Mar 9 2008, 07:53 PM

Try again for other purpose, coitus for one.

They said there was a test. Take 2 banana

One put on top of the pendant, the other no pendant

The one without pendant spoil faster

well for your info. this type of product received very good response in the usa. a lot of golf champions in the usa is endorsing it as well. check this out n u know what i mean www fusionexcel com

everything is in the site. it's indeed hard to accept that there really is such a powerful product that can do wonders. however try it n experience it for yourself. those who want to know more on how to maximise the usage of this pendant do PM me.

You guys who say it's great and we should try it are missing the point. What we want to know is how it works, detailed scientific documentation of how the item works, we don't care what it does, we want to know how it does it.

off topic....how much did you pay for the pendant TS?

this is like car sticker... if you stick tubo, mugen, brudder, greddy on the side of your car of other places ar... your car will add 100hp and 100 units of torque... no kidding... very powerful 1... the more you stick the more powerful... if you stick whole car... can beat ferari leh.. even kancil kia can win

watch cheng my car... by mr brown...

like those skinny guys lar... or fat ah pek.. they put dragon tattoo on their back big big ar... their power + 100... arnold or stveler stalon also lose leh... i wonder why rambo dont put tattoo...

can also see in RPG game.. u buy certain item ar... ur hero stronger 1... dota also got leh...

this pendant do wat 1? need how many gold 2 buy? kill wat monster can get?

I agree with Malaysianpotato,Wheres the science behind it??

If i sell you a rock and told you to eat it and you will have energy for the rest of your life will you believe me??

My "Technology" has been developed in Japan where dragons pass out those rocks which are then treated with Bioelectric currents!

ITS all marketing. when sell cheap and "affordably", people suspect its a dupe. When sell for HIGH price, people think it DEFINITELY spawned from the dragons you mentioned, hence must be very powerful,rare,and WORTH-EVERY-CENT. Thats why you see many "water machines" made from plastic parts goes for 10x times the price (after being convinced its gonna cure [enter-chronic-disease-which-Dr-are-trying-to-cure-but-with-minimal-success-here] , and massage-chairs goes for the price for half a car.

Its like gambling ... If i suggest to 50 ppl to buy BIG, another 50 ppl to buy SMALL. So 50 of them WILL SURE WIN. And they come back to me and worship me as God for making them rich (and spreading the word out of course), another half would just feel ashamed after losing, and usually will keep quiet to prevent others from finding out their stupidity for believing in the first place.

Those who spread the word would just say.. "try it.... believe in that god-of-gambler (read: Me) .. buy $100 from what he suggested (BIG or SMALL). "no harm trying".... so now.. multiply these "suckers" by 1000 (I'm gonna be rich!).

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Mar 10 2008, 10:53 AM

i get your point bro.well if only u r a sceintist then u would not have ask such a question. if u know scalar energy till today do not have any instrument or financially viable instrument to measure scalar energy coz if u have done enough research u would know that scalar energy has zero frequency it is basically 2 electromagnetic wave crossing each other n cancelling out each other therefore coz its zero in frequency as well as a stationary energy u can;t really measure it. however scalar energy has been proven to exist by a guy call tesla. even einstein in one of his equation has the scalar symbol.


if u do not understand how something works does not mean u must reject it. do u understand how electricity works, i don;t, n yet we enjoy the benefits of electricity. but i do know one thing that u can cook a man;s dinner with it n u can cook a man with it as well.

just like myself i do not understand how scalar energy works, but after trying out the quantum pendant n experiencing it i m now doing research iinto the quantum pendant brought in by www.fusionexcel.com

i m from a science backgroud into research n now i m working with real scientists to document it. in the near future we should have something concrete but in the meantime the only way to substantiate it is to have testimonials. bear with it. the maximum extent of scalar energy is still tobe seen. however just a hint of how powerful scalar energy is remember the chernobyl explosion in russia, well they were using sc......... energy.

RM250

I found this on their site explaining Scalar Energy
http://www.fusionexcel.com/BarronReport.pdf

i have a scenario of who is a bigger fool. scene one one who hear about a product but does not believe in it but went all out to test, research n conclude hmmm yes this is bull shit or scene 2 the person who hears about the product dont believe in it coz of his/her finite mind n do nothing to verify it;s fake n all he/she does is to cry wolf now wonder which is the bigger fool?? can anyone guess??

i agree to a certain extent that the media, the mind being brainwash plays a vital role in making u think it;s good but how long can it last if it's bogus n does not work time will tell n be exposed but if something works for years of more than a decade meaning something must me right n real right?

such energy products have been around for decades however cos the benefits is too far fetch for anyone to really believe in it, only those who took a gamble to buy it n try it are benefitting from it. besides there;s a cooling off period of 14 days, if in 14 days it does not work return it in good condition n full refund will be given but i can safely assure anyone if they follow the instrucitions carefully they will benefit even before a week is up. only the brave the daring will try it. beside what have u got to lose money back guarantee in 14 days.

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Added on March 10, 2008, 11:45 am right on bro. yes u can find all the relevant info from fusionexcel website as well as for those who want to find out more on water molecules go to https://www.hado.net

do u know that 70% of the people in the world do not drink enough of water n of the good quality?

one must understand the pendant definitely/guaranteed to work as shown by a few simple demos like the strength, balance, flexibility test. however for one to fully benefit and enjoy optimum health it has to be in a combination of several factors like the sufficient good quality water, enugh of rest, good diet etc. everything must be in totality nothing stand alone.

there are many out there who has been using the pendant but say it does not work simply becoz they do not drink enough water in the first place. if one understand the body structure well 70-75% of our bodies is water, 80% of our brain is water n 90% of our blood is water n more than 30% of our bone is water so transport of nutrients n oxygen is thru water. water is the transporter as well as a conductor.

many out there are simply selling the pendant just to make a quick buck n undercutting the price which is a sad thing with malaysians as well as asians. price cutting would not solve anything. there is no such thing as competition in the first place just your own ignorance. it is the razor edge that fine line that differentiate u n the other example fail is 49 points n pass is 50 points just that one point makes a whole world difference.

they do not properly educate them on the proper usage of it n as such has coz more scepticism as well as ruin the reputation of such energy products.





This post has been edited by manatee0505: Mar 10 2008, 11:45 AM

I always believe these pendants/stones/items have it's power/energy that effects our body or surrounding (aka feng shui)

Here are some experiences I had
1) Rutilated Quartz
-I had chest pain issues for nearly 2 years. No doctor could tell me why
-After wearing it for few weeks, my chest pain disappeared

2) Antique Dzi
-I was promoted to head of department
-Income increased by 3 fold

3) Phit Tit Chain
-Cannot finish body steps class after trying 2 1/2 months. After wearing it, I finished the class and managed to continue with another class back to back without much difficulty like last time

4) Quantum Pendant
-2nd day: Feel loose energy. A bit dizzy
*No positive comments yet

I know all this could be just our mind playing and there might be no solid scientific proof, but heck... If I can see clear results from the above... what is it to loose (except money to purchase)

Here is the scan of the product broacher

And that answers my question... How?

If I were a scientist I'd still ask the question simply because noone has answered me. Even if I knew the answer I'd still ask the question because obviously none of you know the answer and I'd enjoy reading your empty pointless responses.
What I asked was how the item affected the human body, not what it does for you. Noone has answered the question, all you've done is say "noone can understand it". I want to know how the item affects you, since the company says they know it does such and such, they must have documentation on it, what it does to your cells and atleast theories on how it does it.

Electricity... You're joking right?

Chernobyl... was a NUCLEAR disaster, it was a NUCLEAR plant. The energy source was nuclear, controlled nuclear reaction boils water, creates steam and drives a steam turbine. They had a failed experiment and were unable to shut the plant down, the result was a steam exposion which was followed by secondary explosions and fires. AKA NUCLEAR meltdown

Btw, it was in Ukraine.

ETA: I can't believe your Chernobyl remark, what's your science background?

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 10 2008, 01:42 PM

Another type of similar product, check out this site: http://www.emf-health.com/
There is a video on a scientist showing the blood cell diff when wearing and not


and this thing looks just like a chip...

There is a lot of scientific evidence here:
http://www.qlink.com.my/Scientific_Evidence.html

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Added on March 10, 2008, 2:17 pmOk, found this...
http://www.badscience.net/?p=413#more-413
Someone ripped the chip apart and found nothing!

This post has been edited by dzi921: Mar 10 2008, 02:17 PM

well there are many references detailing how the pendant works or rather for instance the water structure how it is being microcluster. if u actually do enough of research of your own bits n pieces are available to u. as to the chernobyl if u say it;s nuclear then so be it, that was what u were lead to believe. no point debating with a person who is close minded n obective to steam roll all opinions given.

if i were to reveal to u my background it will seriously put u to shame.

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Added on March 10, 2008, 6:53 pmfor those who want some medical opinion do take a look at www.fusionexcel.com n click on the video of dr. siva speaking on thai tv where he explains what is energy medicine and how it;s use as an alternative medicine which is the future of medicine according to norman shealy.

again after listening to the medical doctor if u still find too good to be true then do try one n experience for yourself.

This post has been edited by manatee0505: Mar 10 2008, 06:53 PM

Rofl, who cares about all that. Let's get back to Chernobyl.

You're saying it wasn't a nuclear meltdown? lawl, the Chernobyl Nuclear Powerplant was a nuke plant(thus the name, not even going to argue this, go check with the IAEA if you want), so what are you saying caused the whole kaboom + release of radioactive material(iodine 131, strontium 90, among others) into the atmosphere?


Edit: Go ahead and put me to shame, I don't mind. Oh and if I wanted to do research for myself, I wouldn't have asked would I? I haven't steamrolled anything, I've simply asked for someone to provide a credible report on how the item works. I'm not disputing the effects, I simply want to know how it works. Sheesh.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 10 2008, 08:17 PM

whao ...
such a nice results u have there..^^

Ya... money (nearly RM20k) spent also nice but I never regret. Health is back. Career is toped.

Well said bro.

I'm still very skeptical in all these products, I still feel its all in your mind. Paid for something good...having a peace of mind that that "object" will bring good "feng shui" or waves or electricity or nuclear

I'm not gonna go as far as saying it's all psychological, and I don't really care. I mean, if it works, great for some, good for them.

Just thought I'd throw a logical question into it and get a proper detailed scientific answer.

Hahahahaha you are damm funny...

placebo effect ? ... same?

a placebo effect can only happen for a time period n after while it will wear off signs will show that it is not a placebo effect.

however if u have watch the movie "secret" then u will know that the mind is a powerful tool, the next frontier is not space as they always put it but the mind. however with the quantum pendant it can take the mind to greater heights as it makes the brain more coherent as well as more focus n concentrated.

i took this pendant to a UM professor a malay obviously with a PHD supposedly from USA, i took the quantum pendant to have him test out the mineral content, i corresponded with him thru email initially h he potrayed himself like a true scientist saying yeah sure i m open minded keen to explore such extraordinary things so i arrange to meet him in UM n when i reach there n upon seeing the pendant he laughed at me saying this is rubbish n when i told him the experiences that i have he says it's a placebo effect. sad thing with malaysian scientist that;s why we dont go very far in development especially with such close minded , 80% of the population thinking.

again as to how it works do take a look at www.fusionexcel.com click on dr siva on thai national TV. hope it will enlighten those who want to find out how it works.

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Added on March 11, 2008, 9:55 pmdear sir,
sorry if my comments look like a direct attack on you as a person, my apologies sincerely. let;s forget about the chernobyl if u say it is nuclear then so be it. my source came from someone who is working inside chernobyl itself so let it be, nothing gain from debating what was the explosion. it does not make me richer neither does it make me poorer.

i m sure at the end of the days many can testify that such energy products does work. even many champions found it beneficial if not they would not be endorsing the products as well as winning tournaments.

This post has been edited by manatee0505: Mar 11 2008, 09:55 PM

manatee0505,

Do you think Zen Quantum Pendant and FusionExcel Quantum Pendant is the same?

Scalar energy-No frequency as you said,stationary meaning no amplitude either.I read a lot on it and it still in theory that such a thing exists!

Any energy(Sound etc) is either longitudinal or transverse,scalar is described as the movement of void,which literally means movement of nothing!

Engineering student here,i like to understand things!

First off, I'm not offended by anything you've said, nor did I percieve any of your words to be a personal attack on myself.

That said, I'm going to ask you to name your source. Cause if you read the clean up and containment reports, it's quite clear that the radioactive materials found on site, around the continent and as far as europe were products of nuclear fission. Also, the Chernobyl nuke plant was still active until fairly recently, so maybe you should check your source's credibility again, cause there's no evidence of anything other than nuclear activity within the plant.

I'm not really willing to drop the issue, since you claim an inside source, I want to know who he is, what he did in the plant(I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be violating opsec as the plant was not a military or intelligence project and even if it was, the Soviet Union is dead), and which part of the plant he worked on. If he refuses to reveal his name, atleast have him answer the other questions.

While were at it, since he was(or so you say, he claims) working there, perhaps he can explain how the accident happened and where it began and if it was related(assuming that his claim of the plant not being a nuke power plant) to the low-power test or if it was perhaps related to the '82 accident.

This is of personal interest to me and I'm sure everyone else here wouldn't mind being given information even the IAEA, UN, NATO, etc aren't aware of.


Secondly...

Allow me to reiterate, I don't care if it works, that's not what I asked. I want to know how it works, which is why I'm posting in this thread. You claimed to have knowledge on the subject saying;
However, in the same post you said;
Which led me to question your knowledge on the subject, since you claim to be educated in the mystical arts of science and claim to be researching scalar energy and it's effects, how can you not understand how electricity works? And at the same time, scalar energy isn't exactly undocumented, you should atleast have an understanding of the theories and concepts behind SFT, and the operating principles of scalar energy(which I don't, I'm horrible at physics, and my knowledge of quantum physics is even worse). Which is why I asked you to reveal your qualifications.

Again(because people don't seem to get it... And because I'm sure many other's share my interests on the subject), I don't need to know how many athletes use the product, I don't need you to tell me that it works, I want to know HOW it works.



Wootz long post.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 11 2008, 10:48 PM

well as i said i do not wish to rustle the birds nest, so let it be. die with the knowledge that it was a nuclear explosion. hmmm u know what u r absolutely right i really do not know anything about scalar energy however what i do know is i m enjoying it. if u think i know or i do not know about scalar energy either way u r right.

again die with that knowledge.

maybe it was simply a placebo effect? thus it is likely a lie? a scam?

im just sceptical. placebo effects cannot be detected by the buyer as he/she is inclined to believe that he hasn't got ripped off. is there any independent study regarding this so-called zen pendant?

This post has been edited by mypetridish: Mar 12 2008, 01:06 PM

There is a 30 days money back guarantee. If the person feels being ripped off he/she can return and get a full refund

Today is my 4th day wearing it. Don't have the weak feeling after waking up already

PS: My test might not be accurate as I'm wearing too many placebo effect things

I'm now eye-ing for the Q-Link (yet another placebo effect thing but with more testimonial and articles to back them up) www.qlink.com.my (90 days money back guarantee)

See, this is what I mean when I say Malaysians(in general) lack maturity.

You say you know about the subject... Then proceed to stone wall when inquired. How does that post help anyone? Who's nest would you be rustling by providing information? If you don't know anything why don't you just say it instead of talking about Chernobyl and crap. Sheesh, drama.

And what's with the "die with that knowledge" crap, how many people do you honestly believe will remember this effectively useless discussion for more than a month? Drama.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 12 2008, 01:33 PM

nearly 20k...
can buy a car already lo..
hee
but ur career n health topped..
then nvm la..
^^
health more important..

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Added on March 13, 2008, 6:34 ammy mum wearing the quantum pendant..
not sure anything happen..
but at least healthy..

This post has been edited by kuntaker: Mar 13 2008, 06:34 AM

Oh man. If you were a real scientist, you wouldn't believe in this nonsense. Scalar energy is not measurable till this day because it has no information and causes no interaction. Look at it this way, here's another example of weakly-interacting or almost-non-interacting stuff - neutrinoes. Every single day, we are bombarded by billions of solar neutrinoes per cubic inch of our bodies, and yet we do not die from the radiation nor do we gain anything from it. The interaction of neutrinoes with matter is so weak that nothing comes off it. So imagine scalar energy, with ZERO information density. That means it interacts with matter less than neutrinoes do. What does that tell you?

2 electromagnetic waves canceling each other = "phase conjugation" in engineering terms. I'm from an engineering background, sir. When phase conjugation happens, we get a standing wave with scalar potential but ZERO vector potential. This wave doesn't propagate and cannot be "tapped", nor can it be modulated to carry information.

Tesla's idea of scalar waves were flawed, as he mathematically showed it to be transcendental i.e. having infinite speed. Similarly, he "calculated" gravity waves to be a few times the speed of light. Both his calculations were wrong as his calculations were not background-independent and had too many hand-inserted "magic numbers" based on supposed measurements from cavity resonance and Schumann resonance experiments. If you're a real scientist or real engineer, you'll know what I'm talking about.

If you were from an engineering background, then I suppose you're familiar with the Heaviside equations that preceded the Laplace equations/transforms. Why do we use Laplace transforms instead of Heaviside equations nowadays? And why did Heaviside equations had longitudinal and transverse waves solutions, but we disregard the longitudinal component of EM waves? If you know the simple answer to that question, you'll also know why scalar energy is not taken seriously by engineers and scientists.

Einstein as well as any other physicist will have scalar and vector quantities in their solutions. But guess what? The scalar values are always eliminated from the final solution because they either represent an imaginary quantity, or a quantity with no physical properties. Much like how state-vector renormalizaztion for wave equations remove the zeroes and infinities. Again, if your scientific background can put us to shame, I'm sure you know why renormalization is used in QED solutions, right?

Even if you were to say that scalar energy has something to do with the zeropoint field, the energy that arises from the zeropoint field / dirac sea / quantum foam is due to vacuum polarization. Vacuum cannot be polarized by scalar fields, only vector fields. Which means even if we were to analyze scalar energy from the perspective of QM, it would hold no water.

Chernobyl is a scalar energy disaster.. the Tunguska Incident is a scalar energy weapon test.. the sinking of the Kursk is due to scalar energy tests on the submarine.. the Philadelphia Experiment was dealing with scalar energy.. man, your stuff seems to be coming from conspiracy theories and science-fiction rags.

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Added on March 13, 2008, 12:28 pmWell, you know what the conspiracy theorists will say. The radioactive fallout is from the fission material that was used to generate the power to fuel the scalar energy production itself. So, the overload happened due to scalar energy, but the explosion threw the radioactive fuel source for the process all over the place, misleading people that it was a nuclear disaster when it was actually due to scalar energy.

On the other hand, I've also heard of an alternate conspiracy theory before about Chernobyl. Only this time, the meltdown was due to a faulty psychotronics test. You know those super-secret "Soviet sciences" that inspired C&C: Red Alert.. scalar energy, psychotronics, torsion fields.. Hell, some years back, some scamming Soviet scientists were proven to be frauds with their claims of a torsion field based time machine. Even the Soviet academy of sciences have debunked all these "breakthrough" sciences that originated as scams from the Soviet Union, and yet these scams managed to take hold in other countries. Tom Bearden has got to be the single most productive contributor towards these scams. No other person have disseminated as much Soviet pseudo-science to the American public as Bearden, a self-proclaimed expert on "scalar electromagnetics".

As engineering students, some of us would have trawled through KeelyNet at one time or another, and taken up with all those "alternative science" stuff.. only to eventually realize how wrong and flawed they are. FYI, back in college my friends and I have tried replicating the experiments of JL Naudin before. No such luck. Those overunity results? That's because Bearden and Naudin "redefined" what is voltage, current, power etc. and the multimeters are always hooked up wrongly. When we hook them up correctly for apples-to-apples comparison with conventional power circuits, there was never an overunity effect.

This post has been edited by jswong: Mar 13 2008, 12:28 PM

Fun read jswong. It actually made sense... Which is a nice change

yea...agree wit malaysianPotato...

but normally a lot of things can't be proven by scientist either..

But at least the scientists' main intention is to prove things rather than to disprove things. Things end up being disproved by science when they can't be proven, but things don't necessarily get proven when they can't be disproved.

Most pseudo-science believers will insist on something without bothering to prove or disprove it.

Let me share with you my experience about energy pendants. I was a skeptic like most of you guys. My friend was wearing one (Quantum Pendant), and he reported his shoulder pain has gone after wearing it for 3 weeks. His 90 years old grandma walks better after wearing it. I had months of this bugging injury on my left shoulder. The pain prevented me from doing bench presses, shoulder exercises and also preacher curl. I rested for a couple of weeks from gym and still my injury did not heal. Reluctantly, I bought a set of Quantum Pendant for my whole family to use. My wife too had years of shoulder injury.

The results were amazing. My shoulder pain/ injury was gone after 3 weeks of wearing. So was my wife. Another problem was my calves hurt for weeks after I jogged on the street. I tried that many times, the problem persists and finally I gave up jogging. With the pendant, I could jog with minimum pain on my calves. My calves recovered within a day and I could jog again the next day.

I have no problem doing bench presses, flyes, shoulder press and preacher curl after that.

Then I was introduced the Q-Link pendant which has been researched to block EMF. This one is even better than Quantum Pendant. I could jog and jog without pain on my calves. No more injury to my calves.

I twice injured my shoulder again on the same spot and with the Q-Link the injury healed within 4 days. I don't care about whatever scientific proof as long as I can feel it working on myself, it is a good working product.
Another thing, the muscle soreness that I get after an intense workout reduced tremendously since wearing the pendant.

That's all I have to say about both of the pendants.

these pendants are selling thru MLM or retail channels?

EMF=Electromotive force??

whao great results..^^
my mum wearing it..
mh...
well i not very sure about any effect...
but she is very healthy^^...
mayb healthier than me..^^

Electromagnetic field.

One is thru MLM the other is retail.

Different definitions for different applications,EMF is electromotive force in electric circuits!

But i think electromagnetic field applies here!

Hey ts..some of my fren say it works...so beter try it...maybe it works for you too...

what MLM stands for?

Multi Level Marketing... something like Amway, etc

o..
Amway product is it good?
i see many ppl selling it..

Posts completely unrelated to the subject and of no conversational value = spam.

What has Amway got to do with Quantum Pendant?

oopsy..wrong reply..
zha dao..

not mean to spam ..juz deny this msg..

This post has been edited by kuntaker: Mar 18 2008, 05:48 PM

wat is dat anyway??...can u tell me wer those things r selled??

This post has been edited by Kuraodo: Mar 18 2008, 05:56 PM

Google is your friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

Bro, my gym pal used to wear something like that but nowadays he no longer wears it because he says "the effect is gone". Probably because it was a placebo effect all along.

However, the thing he was wearing didn't have outrageous claims about scalar energy, linking it with quantum mechanics, and all this nonsense. It was merely touted as a device embedded with titanium dioxide anatase to function as a photocatalyst that reacts with a broad spectrum of light, converting incident light into far infrared radiation.

Far-infrared can pass right through our bodies, and is used in medical imaging. However, I've read before that far-infrared has some useful effects like reducing inflammation, etc. but that's when it's used for heating applications.

So, even then, the connection between the minute amounts of FIR produced by a photocatalyst necklace and beneficial effects on the physiology of a person is pretty tenuous, though still much more believable than scalar waves.

I have been wearing my pendant since Aug 2007. So far so good.
My recovery from muscle soreness after a workout has reduced tremendously till now. I do get injury every now and then and I find that the healing is much much faster than normal.

Whether the effect is gone or not after quite sometime depends on individuals. I have friends who do not feel any effects at all even tho they have been wearing for months. Well...nothing is 100%.

It's getting so ridiculous now as people tend to believe all these gimmicks. If you're well aware of the law of conservation of energy and the fundamentals of quantum mechanics, these so-called energy generating craps are just worthless piece of junks. They're good in boasting what the pendant can do but unable to explain the theory behind.

Who cares what you think as long as it works. My friend's mother was on wheel chair for years because of stroke and other degenerative diseases. She supposed to go for surgery on her knees. Now she can walk on her own and her doctor from Assunta Hospital confirmed that she didn't have to go for her surgery. Her medications had also been reduced as her BP and blood sugar levels had gone down significantly after wearing the piece of worthless junk.
It has been a year now and she is doing fine. Her case has been highlighted on last Sunday's Star.

this kind of thing not everyone believe it la..
is up to u wan le..
normally ppl believe ,and it WORKS!

Everybody is free to believe in whatever he wants!!

Placebo effect can be miraculous!!

People don't just believe, they willing to try and it works.

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Added on March 20, 2008, 8:06 amBelief is for religion. Placebo effect in faith is miraculous.
Curing an old chronic injury in no placebo effect.
Bringing down BP from 160/90 to 120/80 is no placebo effect for someone who has been suffering from Hypertension for years.
Someone who has to go for surgery for a long time prostate problem and after wearing the pendant, the prostate problem has been alleviated.
No more surgery required as confirmed by his doctor. Is that placebo too?

This post has been edited by 4Rings: Mar 20 2008, 08:07 AM

The power of the human mind is limitless.
If i can control my BP with my mind then a person who really believes in something will definitely achieve more!

Many people have psychosomatic illnesses without realizing. Sometimes they just feel like giving up after feeing a pain or discomfort in one area for a long time, and resign to the fact that the area is permanently damaged. Or they feel unwell, and because they want to feel like the illness is getting worse, it really does get worse.

That's how even bomoh's charms can "cure diseases". Try using these devices and charms to cure a viral infection, or an infected wound, without telling the patient what the charm is supposed to do or letting them know you're putting it on them. That would be the best experiment to determine whether their effects are real, or that they worked due to psychological response.

Thats the control test when administering placebos!!

whao..
u read the book ' THE SECRET ' r?^^
but mind really a big thingy though..^^

I have been rearing guppies and swordtails for many years. The mortality rate was quite high. Ever since I put an energy pendant in the fish tank permanently, the mortality rate of my fishes has reduced significantly. I hardly see my fish die prematurely, improved life span. Is it placebo effect?
But I think it is the power of their mind.

Guppies and swordtails live in the rivers in my country!

Love those guppies with a wide colorful tail!

So you think the pendants are solutions to all your problem,glad for you!

Nope,did not read any book,I've done yoga and meditation tho and i know the mind has boundless power!

Did I mention that?

This post has been edited by 4Rings: Mar 21 2008, 09:08 AM

Well if it solved two already it might solve a lot more!

Try!

those who says that it does not work more than likely they do not drink enough of water. try my suggestion drink the minute u wake up drink at least 1-1.5 lit of the energise water within 5 minutes n when u drink chew the water once or twice like u chew your food n in a day drink up to 5 liters n u will definitely see a big difference. i have many referals who says that the pendant does not work n when i ask them did they charge the water n drink a lot of them are ignorant of the pendant able to charge the water. a lot of people out there r simply selling the pendant withour properly educating them about the usage of the pendant thus damage the reputation of the pendant. that;s malaysia mainly attitude undercut n simply sell for short term profit. they just lack vision.

thanks for sharing.

Does the water look/taste/smell different??

My wife told me that she left the water in the titanium flask for 2 days and it turned sour. Anyone had experienced that?

Am curious here,sour means it tasted different or changed color???

The water should taste natural. My wife said it had turn sour. Color remains the same.

Thats odd,you sure there wasn't something else in the flask??Maybe by mistake!

I dunno, maybe a lizard pee in there.

Lol,I wouldn't want to be the one drinking that water!!

i have put water in flask for a week n the water definitely does not taste sour. obviously the water is contaminated i m confident of that. what the flask n the pendant does is to energise the water that;s all.

Thanks for info.

From the way I see it, without the pendant, if you drink that much water a day, you health will improve anyway.

Nah,the effects of the pendant depends on the amount of water you take,just like you pay more money to get more fuel,here you have to drink more if you want the pendant to "work"!