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post Mar 10 2008, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 10 2008, 05:05 PM)
looks like the GN arm can be used by other gundam beside exia, wonder how it fit virtue?...


Added on March 10, 2008, 5:06 pmdoesn't lockon look garr with the eyepatch..
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yah make me wanted go see Crossbone gundam!

QUOTE(hyperx @ Mar 10 2008, 08:28 PM)
why only Exia's trans-am system were actvated? i thought Aoelia said he will activate full utilization of GN Drives to Gundam (supposedly all Gundams including throne's will be activated too right? )
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Throne arent using the original GN drive! They are just some cetak rompak stuff!
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post Mar 11 2008, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 10 2008, 09:53 PM)
At the moment we have no idea how powerful the Unicorn can be. Late UC units have the Minovsky Drive tech which enables the mecha to fly/float in the atmosphere. We don't know for sure whether Unicorn's mechas can do that or not. I don't think Unicorn mechas are overpowered at the moment since they are pretty much a continuation of CCA units. Psychoframe tech is already budding by 0093 hence Anaheim should have advanced within 3 years.

Don't underestimate the technology in F91. It outmanoeuvred, outran, and outgunned everything it went up against. Chances are it might be stronger than Unicorn era suits.
Same with Victory suits where agility pwns brute force.

0083's units overwhelm those seen in Z... and the excuse is that the entire Gundam Project was swept under the carpet.

A simple reason will suffice in bridging the tech gap... Maybe Laplace wiped out the remaining history of early UC?
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I dun think Unicorn can match with late UC mecha! Those buddy are fast and agile! U saw those Jegan pawn to hell by those Crossbone Grunts! And the beam power already been upgraded a lot since then! Their beam saber can easily chop of the shield of Jegan while older beam saber cant blow the shield in one hit! Fire power was also seriously upgraded!

0083 unit are Black History of UC so does the AoZ! Even Sentinel Gundam novel is overpowered!

QUOTE(boltguard @ Mar 11 2008, 02:27 AM)
hmmm, i wish i could read jap ~~~ lol,  whistling.gif ~~, then i can read Hathaway's & Crossbone series  whistling.gif ~~

wait, so where does Sentinel gundam comes from? novelization as well?, i only got the artbook, lol  rolleyes.gif
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they is still some fan translate version out there! And if u understand Chinese u could even buy some translated Gundam Novel to read (TW got lots of them)
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post Mar 11 2008, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 11 2008, 12:24 PM)
exia before trans = full ultilization of the 7 swords (i wonder if the previous fights hes doin et, or theres an actual ultilization/system to it lol)
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lol the onli comment for this dude is he really lack the skill! So far from so many series of Gundam i watch i felt that this series of gundam pilots are the most unskill pilot of all time! Ali can simply pawn Setsuna if not for the Omnislash thing came out! Lockon is the onli guy i think tat atleast has some shooting skill!
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post Mar 11 2008, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Mar 11 2008, 12:55 PM)
for unicorn
what i think is
when the psycho frame open
it's more than the design of G gundam adi~~~
yet G gundam should b appear in future era
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G gundam is not in the same era as UC!
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post Mar 11 2008, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 11 2008, 02:30 PM)
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Tat wat i want to said about Unicorn era and Late UC era! The time has passed a lot since then MS already evolved a lot!
But from the timeline after CCA (not including Unicorn) till F91, EF seems to have not upgrade a lot of mecha, maybe due to the peace.....no war so no new weapon! So end up EF still used some slightly modify Jegan, give me the feeling of Proton Wira (a car model tat has been used more than 15 years with a bit of modification)!
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post Mar 11 2008, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Mar 11 2008, 08:47 PM)
Fair point I think.  Setsuna and other meisters depend too much on the Gundam's capability and like you said, if it weren't for the trans-am, Setsuna would have lost the fight. 

Well, he lost the fight even when Ali is in Enact or the mobile armor.
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lol yah! tat guy cant even beat the enact! By the way this day gundam pilot skill dun improve through fighting anymore! Setsuna skill stay noobie even after so many matches! Nothing like the more experience u gain the better u get like those previous pilot! So far i see is Patrick skill is getting better and better onli + his luck also getting better and better! If he did not missed Lockon by tat inch the story would be more interesting!
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Mar 11 2008, 10:10 PM)
just finish watching epi22. my comment:
- expect more lockonxthiera yaoi doujin laugh.gif
- setsuna still sux as pilot. cant beat ali without using trans-arm doh.gif

i wonder how ali gonna recharge his gundam...
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I got a feeling he will die next episode! Darn i just luv this type of war-freak enemy! they are way too dangerous

QUOTE(jubz @ Mar 11 2008, 10:22 PM)
lol, you should say gundams are so handicapped, even when Patrick pilots one he can give some trouble to the Meisters. @_@
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lol he already pawn gundam with a GNX
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post Mar 12 2008, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 12 2008, 02:05 AM)
... with Gundam 00 drawing to a near conclusion..

Now HRL proves again that with par to par MS there can defeat the Gundams with well coordinated strike.. showting the pilots depend on their MS more than their skills..

Actually this shows Setsuna is a lousy pilot as when Ali has a Gundam he got his ass kick only to be save by a can of whoopass(Tran-Am)

Saji now turned emo as some predicted.. so what he gonna do? Make a MS and avenge the gundam??

Honestly at episode 22.. iam not all that amuse of Gundam 00 in general.. I will still stay until the end then i make a full evaluation..
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yah before Ali change to Gundam, he already pawn Setsuna with a Enact!

QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 12 2008, 05:59 AM)
GW units > Leos and Aries

Taurus + Virgos > GW units

GW upgrade !!

GW upgrade > Taurus + Virgos

Ring a bell?

To be fair, in most gundam series the factions involved will always churn out new and more powerful mechas.
The main criticism now for 00 is that the surprises keep on coming just to turn the tide towards one side, then show off crazy pwning skills, and few episodes later some secret is unlocked and shifts the advantage back to the original faction. Where the heck is the storyline + character development?
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Amuro RX78 Gundam from start till the end! Or Turn A gundam from 1st episode to the end! This 2 series does not have much upgrade!
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 12 2008, 10:42 AM)
mostly a matter of preference. but i suppose most people prefer to have that few main/singular heroes over multiple heroes *coughgarhamcough*

the whole tieria thing just creeps me out, first setsuna now lockon, allelujah next? i bet he will faint from bad mental images, with his other self taking over and b**** slapping tieria silly for being a dirty trap.
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lol better Tieria go request his beloved VEDA to change him into a she!

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 12 2008, 11:46 AM)
I dont mind multiple chara story from various point of view.. but my problem is how its done..

Honestly they are some plot and chara that can be make do without them..
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Maybe their chara all got messed up and hardly tell u much about them!
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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 12 2008, 02:00 PM)
graham maybe going to die like guld from macross plus, G-Force crush him to death..
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nah that guy is not going to appear again! The GN drive failed to implement into Flag and Graham did not want to be a MS pilot anymore and change to have a desk work in the military end of story!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 12 2008, 03:52 PM)
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wow long comment! I always like wat u describe about those gundam! The story already hint tat the old geek Aeola Isenberg did not want to end war, he show other ambition! Tat professor tat got fried by throne seems to found out something about this organization and GN drive before he died!

And when the episode 22 came out and the old geek said i will now let all gundam pilot out there to decide wat they want to do on their own no more instruction! So he make the situation more worse, 3 faction already unite as one to fight common enemy, basically CB need to do is surrender or just disappear. Then they will be peace no more war!

Now by letting the decision on to CB which contain a EMO and religious boy (Setsuna) which was upset of his god and now want to be a god himself! With his emo Trans-AM power he will tried to force the world to follow his style, we may get to see another Death Note Yagami! This is wat i see from his characteristic!

And Wolfx i really doubt the part where someone stand out to the world and tell everyone we are the guardian of peace, u carry weapon i will kick ur A** so hard u will want to surrender it to me! This is like using a big gun pointing at ppl forcing ppl to follow ur will! aeola is just another old geek tat cannot accept the rule of the society!

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 12 2008, 05:16 PM)
He found out about Allejandro and the Corner faction ....so he ordered Throne to kill him...under guise of "intervention".
That's cause Allejandro wanted to rule the world himself with CB as the scapegoats. Aeolia hoped that the current meisters that Veda specifically chosen (so that they won't betray Aeolia's ideals) will fight on for eradication of war thus unlocking the Trans-Am system.

You're right, maybe there will be peace if the meisters just "disappear" but that bad guy Allejandro is gonna rule the world!! If there is peace, its only temporary before he becomes more power hungry and wanna start more wars to gain profit!! Maybe selling GN drives to the highest bidder or something. Aeolia doesn't want that thus gives the meisters the power.
That's what U.S is doing now isn't it?  whistling.gif
And u say u dun believe it, but fact is it works. A necessary evil.
You think Iraq will be better if US didn't "intervene"? At least now it has no Saddam and democracy is being placed but unfortunately US has its own agenda under guise of peace, (just like Allejandro Corner)

Sometimes i wonder if i'm the only one watching the show PROPERLY.....  doh.gif
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Nah i think each of us here got our own point lah! Dun jump to the point tat U r wrong I am wrong or maybe someone else is wrong! I accept certain point u said and some Stargazzer said! No wrong as long as we all have comment on the show, we will still continue to watch it!

Regarding the last part u answer me is like do you think Death Note main character did the right thing? He used force to make all ppl to be afraid of him killing them with a heart atk! This question cant really have a good answer! Certain ppl will go yeah the world is better like tat, some would said it is in human to do so taking away ppl life without checking if the person is really innocent or not!
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QUOTE(tsubasa89 @ Mar 12 2008, 06:57 PM)
if aeolia really did foresees how things would ended up and etc etc....
then the things that he in takes in for the calculation must've included the 4 meister,
maybe aeolia choses these 4 for he can foresee what outcome will it be if he should tell the meister to decide their own path? hmm.gif
hence it could be he acting all good and all but deep down he already knnow that the meister will continue the fight= the war continues....

i personally think there's more than what it seems about CB... tongue.gif
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mhhmmmnnn this part hard to tell leh! Tat guy was 170 years ago how did he foresee that Setsuna and fren are the 4 meister?

I am really happy to see tat this thread has became so active! Good job to all contributor, since i dun want to argue anymore on each of our own perspectives.... since all of us are just blind guessing onli make no sense to carry on! Just hope the show wont end up like another GSD! Cheers for all Gundam Fan rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Now i will just bring up some thing i notice in the show that may seem to be important to the future storyline:
From the episode where the three faction united become one against the CB, Sumeragi and other companion did mention it was according to VEDA plan! So for wat we know VEDA initial plan was show to CB up to 3 faction unite! But after that CB did not take any other action, one of the fact was no further instruction were give to them........till the part they get atk on episode 21, they just fought back without any other instruction of VEDA.......and till episode 22 VEDA being hacked and old geek got shot in the face, it initial the system to sent out instruction to tell the all gundam pilot to fight for peace.


So in the end no one knew the original plan of old geek, all they know was unite 3 faction......If 3 faction were to united for the original plan wat is the carry on one beside being interrupt by the Thrones and that guy behind?
Hope it would be told in further episode of the story so we can all stop guessing wat the dead old geek was up to!!!
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No matter Kampfer got shot down by a NT-1 or not it is for sure one of the best design Mono-Eye MS! It is in my wish list to buy its MG!
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 14 2008, 08:51 AM)
in viewer's term: the nations arent on par, and thus owning them entirely will kill the potential of more gundam 00 episodes.

in plot's term: aeolia's a b**** and /no on unlocking the drives. and what wolf said. lol.
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aiyah it is the typical Gundam show this day! All like tat! Some invisible upgrade then some serious upgrade! Start with Gundam > Enemy, later Enemy > Gundam, Gundam Upgrade > Enemy then end show!
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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 14 2008, 02:33 PM)
I just notice that exia stance look like nadleeh...
look like nadleeh and exia can tag team in fast attack technique..
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they did tag to fight Thrones before!
I have no clue of all those ability of gundam in Novel! The best i know is S gundam has this so called ALICE system AI tat can let the normal human pilot fight like a new type (correct me if wrong)
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 14 2008, 03:52 PM)
... But the thing is CB goal is to pwn all nation asap.. A prolong war may drive people weary and soon lose faith into CB..

Which is happening now.. They allow the 3 nation to take advantage of them hence it didnt demoralize the 3 nation 1 bit.. It was only at the final moment when someone leak the GN drives out then hope return for the 3 nation..

So lemee guess Aeolia goals isnt to end war at all.. He actually wanted to end the Zero sum stalemate so It push Mankind to a new era..

Just As Planned..

Atfirst Gundam arrive to scare the shit out of 3 nation, Then 3 nation pull together to fight CB, When 3 nation is lossing then leak Gn drives so they get fighting chance when 3 nation is winning then CB gets Tran am which... even the balance hence prolong war..
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After watching so many gundam series and some later one, i have onli come out with one conclusion, gundam is fiction, in their story they will always win and no matter how illogical some things are in the story the gundam r always good guys, wat they do is always right! Question this theory u will onli end up with yourself upset with the anime itself! So just enjoy the bling bling mecha showoff like MSV! wink.gif

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 14 2008, 05:29 PM)
That's why all gundam fans should watch 0080, no matter how sissy some people think it is.

There's no "right" or "wrong" in 0080, the characters do whatever they think it's appropriate.
And it has the best story telling and flow amongst all gundam anime... no super saiyan powers... no omnislash and WTF godly secrets... most important of all, it's melancholy hidden within the fun and laughter.

Let's be honest here, which one of us here has never sat in front of our desk and pretend that we're piloting mecha?

piu piu piu... tatatatatatatatat... kaboom bam bam pow pow !!

Those who hasn't, is seriously in need of a childhood.

And of course... Hygoggs KICK ASS. Aquatic MS pwning GMs designed for ground combat.... Sieg Zeon !
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mhmmnnn due the fact i am heavily poison by gundam and also as a Gunpla lunatic i cannot resist myself from not watching any anime tat has gundam with it! lol reminds me of Lucky Star where Konata ask her dad will he watch Detective series Gundam, he dad answer yes where anything relate to the gundam word he will watch.


0080 sad sad story especially for the boy......the other 2 character still ok since they did not know wat happen really who they fought and wat they fought for! I think the boy gonna become anti social or feel betray by the world later when he grows up!
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QUOTE(steellusion @ Mar 14 2008, 06:22 PM)
just start wacthing GUNDAM 00...waaahh..its good laa...nice gundam they got..anyone talk bout this here?can i share some info about this new siries?
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ahhhhh it been discussing in this thread for almost half year!
By the way here some standard stuff ppl here will great u with! Welcome to the gundam world! U should go watch UC gundam! OO rocks!........ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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V gundam not bad not bad! Always remember the theme song! Stand up to the Victory! lots of ppl die in this series! Making it one of the legend!
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