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LaskarCinta
post Mar 4 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 4 2008, 08:39 PM)
the conditions for it to come here officially are not possible:- Local telco packaged plans + iTunes Malaysia. Got aaaa? Maybe on the first condition, but ....iTunes Malaysia? Does anyone here ACTUALLY TRIED the AT&T sim unlocking via iTunes(not jailbreakme/iclarified/ziphone/i-what-the-fcuk-ever) for their American iPhones? THAT is how it is done legally, not through all the jailbreaking and the unlocking we are doing right now.
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don't be that skeptical dude. maybe it will be sold on country-locked basis, but without any contract with operator. or it will be optional. maybe the mechanism of legally unlocking the phone doesn't only come through iTunes, it will come with some methods (the official unlock). if it will can only unlocked through iTunes, how T-Mobile's and Orange's iPhones can be unlocked in the first place, while they are not intended for that to happen when it first hit the European market? the solution is channeled through the operator. that means there is another solution.

not to say that it will surely arrives Malaysia on that favor, but i can see that's the case if it really does arrive on most of Asian countries. i can't see the reason why apple would not sell their iPhones here. yup the price will be that high, but hey other smartphones in the market aren't cheap what. so the price tag of RM3xxx (Orange France unlocked) is not that high. ok maybe kinda steep, but hey other apple products aren't cheap also. so if it arrives and the price is super high, what i can only say is "Apple doesn't sell cheap, affordable gadgets".

but yeah, don't put high hopes for its arrival here yet. just wait and see. any q&a sessions on its arrival to malaysia will only reach dead end, as for now. but i also hope it will be here.

QUOTE(BlaBlaBoy @ Mar 4 2008, 09:17 PM)
That mean when iPhone come in, our current illegal iphone will have warranty as apple warranty worldwide?
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only if Apple changes its warranty policy issued (haha...99% won't). the answer is no.
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post Mar 4 2008, 10:15 PM

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mmm...hope the apps will come out shortly after SDK release. or maybe Apple wanna introduce some of in-house apps based on the SDK, or maybe some early release apps. or maybe some working proof-of-concept apps.

mmm...so many 'maybe' for the nearing iPhone software roadmap event. only hope that Apple won't screw it by postponing the release until another date. hohoho...i want my iPhone to be more productive (but yeah the apps will come with price, oww...).

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post Mar 7 2008, 03:42 AM

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mmm...seems that we need to wait for another 3 months then, for the app distribution system to be deployed.
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post Mar 7 2008, 06:21 PM

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hehehe...the title "SDK will be out very soon . . . . . ." should be changed to "now available". mmm...
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post Mar 10 2008, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(-TrUnKs- @ Mar 10 2008, 06:27 PM)
eh i need to subscribe with maxis unlimited data for internet, the operator asked which package, whether gprs or 3g? iphone does not support 3g right? so should i go for gprs?
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mmm...dunno maxis got GPRS-only data package. or maybe the operator asked u to activate for GPRS (+ EDGE) or 3G, within the same unlimited plan. just ask the operator further bout this concern. if it is the same RM99 unlimited plan then it confirms that it is the same plan. btw, eventhough u activate 3G u still can access GPRS and EDGE network on your iPhone, which available. but surely the iPhone can't use 3G.


Added on March 10, 2008, 7:25 pm
QUOTE(zc_squash @ Mar 10 2008, 07:15 PM)
Does the latest ZiPhone will still downgrade the iPhone's bootloader by using the DO IT ALL! function?
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mmm...just select Advanced and untick Downgrade BL. and then click Perform Action. that's just another 3 clicks away rite?

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post Mar 10 2008, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Mar 10 2008, 07:27 PM)
hey guys...
a fren of mine is cming frm usa...is it advice-able 2 ask him 2 get an iphone n i get it unlocked here?...i was tinking with da price lower than 499usd...n da forex dropin so low...it wud be cheap 2 get it rite??
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mmm...u can always unlock it by yourself using the 4-minute ZiPhone method. and yes it is super cheap.

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post Mar 10 2008, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(tUps @ Mar 10 2008, 08:49 PM)
iTunes cant even detect it now, sad.gif Could it still be done?
oki, I'll try downloading the latest Ziphone and test it again later, Thanks. smile.gif
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mmm...eventhough on older ZiPhone, it will ask first to enter the restore mode. so that's likely not the real prob. the prob faced on the blank screen with apple logo mainly because u haven't enabled verbose boot on earlier ZiPhone versions.
so yeah, get a latest ZiPhone. if the ZiPhone can't detect it u have to manually enter recovery mode (sleepwake + home for seconds, and then connect to the dock).
QUOTE(Voonz @ Mar 10 2008, 08:46 PM)
press shit then click on restore
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lol tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Mar 10 2008, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Mar 10 2008, 09:45 PM)
Ah yeah i juz had a look at the latest ZiPhone and indeed it has such option. Then why did someone said that unlocking must be done using the older ZiPhone in order not for it to downgrade the bootloader?

But anyway, BL 3.9 only advantage is the ability to use the LocateMe function? So far what's the best combo of BL and Baseband?
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if using older ZiPhone it will surely not downgrade the bootloader as it doesn't have that feature. so it's just a safety precaution for some people and they can rest assure with using older version (so eliminating the potential of accidentally selecting Full Unlock).

mmm...btw to unlock 1.1.4 u need to use the latest ZiPhone though.

dunno much, but maybe some under-the-hood features with the latest baseband. but I haven't known any of it. just that the Map's Location feature can only being used with the unlocked 4.03G and up, and the modem firmware version can only being unlocked with AnySIM, and in order for it to be unlocked it need to be run on BL3.9. if u r on BL4.6 ZiPhone will patch the firmware with GUnlock-styled unlock (which then downgrade to an earlier version of patched modem firmware).

hoho...y not try use the fakeblank BL3.9? gaining all the BL3.9 function while u can safely return to 4.6. dunno how it works.

mmm btw just skip 1.1.3. choose either 1.1.2 or 1.1.4. 1.1.3 is too buggy IMHO.

so if u use BL4.6, u can only use modem firmware 4.02G (as patched using GUnlock or ZiPhone). as for BL3.9 u can use the modem firmware originally came with the software firmware itself. it is not the combo, it is what the unlock decides to patch after detection of bootloader version, sort of.

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post Mar 10 2008, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(tUps @ Mar 10 2008, 09:17 PM)
I tested that, I cant MANUALLY get it to enter the recovery mode as well. It just hang on the screen. I could just power it OFF and ON, thats all, sad.gif
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try to unlock again using latest ZiPhone. or u can go to the C:\Program Files\ZiPhone (in windows) and select ENTER DFU MODE batch file (.BAT).

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post Mar 11 2008, 03:29 AM

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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Mar 11 2008, 01:49 AM)
I could compromise of not having the latest baseband but not the bootloader. I was understood that once the bootloader is downgraded, there isn't a way to upgrade it back. Well, at least not without cracking up (literally) the iPhone.
When i say combo, i mean would it be better to have BL 3.9 + baseband (insert number here) or BL 4.6 + baseband 4.02G(?). I'm having my iPod touch now (which will have to be sold to fund my iPhone soon) and it is in 1.1.3 and i think it is running fine =)
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u can use fakeblank BL3.9 that can always being reverted to 4.6 if needed. personally i haven't tested it yet (coz currently using BL3.9) but theoretically using this fakeblank 3.9 will allow you to gain the real BL3.9 state, thus enabling you to achieve AnySIM-styled hack (not by applying GUnlock patch and then reverting the baseband to 4.02G), and yet u can go back to BL4.6 by using software method.

thus as for now, using BL3.9 (and the fakeblank ones) is the only way to get the latest baseband to be unlocked. thus it will not modify the baseband version, making the unlock achievable on firmware 1.1.4 with its modem firmware 4.04G. if still on BL4.6, all u can get is baseband 4.02G.

mmm...if wanna unlock via fakeblank 3.9, just use iPlus 2.0 to downgrade to fakeblank BL3.9, jailbreak and unlock.

so the best combo is fakeblank 3.9 + latest baseband. u can always get back to 4.6 if the "super unlock" modified BL3.9 is available.

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post Mar 11 2008, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Mar 11 2008, 08:38 AM)
But any idea if the fakeblank 3.9 stable or not? Honestly i'ven never heard of it. Probably should go and read more on it tongue.gif
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mmm... u can find the tutorial at iClarified at:
http://iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=760
if u r opting for it, it is advisable to use iPlus then. ZiPhone doesn't include fakeblank method though (due to some reasons). so then u just do the fakeblank BL3.9, jailbreak and unlock using iPlus 2.0.


Added on March 11, 2008, 8:57 ammmm...personally haven't tested it so i can't assure about its stability on its operation. maybe someone can clarify about this.

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post Mar 11 2008, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Mar 11 2008, 09:17 AM)
pls try and then let me know mate
i am on 3.9
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mmm...fakeblank 3.9 is just for BL4.6 user
QUOTE(philipcs @ Mar 11 2008, 04:23 PM)
Even the E symbol still appear, but no transmission happens after i have checked the Usage in Setting. So i ASSUME the EDGE is off.
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yup, even if u put the wrong settings for EDGE (null or fake settings), the E will still showed. it just saying bout the network's EDGE availability on that location, not necessarily the transmission is taking place. like other phones also.

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post Mar 11 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Mar 11 2008, 05:32 PM)
backup include everything?
In default for 1.1.4, application will install in which disk?
diskOs1 or diskOs2? without installing bosstool.
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mmm...the apps data will not backed up.
oww...btw if u use iPlus 2.0 it will install BSD and also move ringtones and fonts to the larger partition. but still u need to use bosstool to move application folder.
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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Mar 11 2008, 05:39 PM)
Do i need uninstall all my 3rd party appz, uninstall bosstool,manual move back the app path to diskOs1,then only proceed my restoration and upgrade 1.1.4?
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no need to to uninstall, just perform the restore.
and yes, u still need that bosstool

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post Mar 11 2008, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Mar 11 2008, 06:01 PM)
i wondering.. SDK i came out. Many appz will release soon.
If no bosstool.. 300mb sufficient for those application?
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remember though the SDK-able firmware is the coming soon firmware 2.0. maybe they'll be some major changes that we haven't know yet.
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post Mar 11 2008, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Mar 11 2008, 06:36 PM)
Any iPhone purchased from Apple Store in the US need not to be activated on the spot, rite? But it sure comes with a 2-year AT&T subscription, rite?
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if not activated with AT&T, it will not come with the 2 year subscription.
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post Mar 11 2008, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(soundstream @ Mar 11 2008, 08:31 PM)
heehee. so i try to add the treja.com/projects/ipod/#battery to installer but no response even refresh couple times.
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it's trejan, not treja.
add this into source:
http://www.trejan.com/irepo
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post Mar 11 2008, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(BlaBlaBoy @ Mar 11 2008, 10:50 PM)
Mine's iphone is 1.1.2 OTB with 4.6BL
Just upgraded to 1.1.4 using

ziphone 2.5 to jailbreak and active
ziphone 2.4 to unlock but only tick UNLOCK do not downgrade basement

Sucessful..

firmware still with 04.02.13_G
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haha...how bout iPlus 2.0 with fakeblank BL3.9? dare to try? hehehe...
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post Mar 12 2008, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(martinsee @ Mar 11 2008, 11:05 PM)
Actually what did iPlus 2.0 with fakeblank BL3.9 work for? Mind to tell me? Thx You in advance..
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iPlus is like the ZiPhone, in fact u can use it as a replacement of ZiPhone. both can install jailbreak and unlock, but iPlus 2.0 also includes fakeblank BL3.9 inside the package. furthermore, it will install BSD and the fix automatically. in the feature list, it also move the ringtones and fonts so when u use bosstool u only need to move applications.


Added on March 12, 2008, 1:57 amso after u install fakeblank BL3.9, u can gain all features like it is on a real BL3.9, where u can apply unlock on the latest baseband. so u don't need to resort to GUnlock / GUnlock-styled patch in ZiPhone. It will apply the AnySIM-equivalent patch, which can only used on BL3.9 (or the fakeblank BL3.9). And yet, u can get back to BL4.6 without involving hardware method.

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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Mar 12 2008, 04:07 AM)
But if i remember correctly someone mentioned that all the iPhones come with a 2-year subscription but you're not required to activate it on the spot. My friend who was trying to get one for me was asked to get a 2-year subscription.
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ok, to make it clear, iPhone in US is marketed with 2-year AT&T telco contract. it is like this:

1. Buy iPhone via Apple Store / AT&T Store / Apple Online Store
2. Connect The iPhone to iTunes, it will launch AT&T Activation
3. Select the AT&T package to be used with iPhone
4. The billing starts and the iPhone is activated

so basically the 2-year contract only starts if u initiate the activation via iTunes. so then only after 2 years of tenuring with AT&T, u'll got the iPhone fully unlocked (supposed to be lah).

so the concept is that if u haven't done the activation via iTunes, u'll not necessarily tied to the contract anymore. so as u don't use the iPhone AT&T plan, u'll not tied. so u just need to aware that this is illegal though (hohoho...).

sometimes the store (especially AT&T Store) will ask for activation on the spot. just give excuse as like u r doing the activation at home, or the iPhone is a gift. another alternative is buying through the Apple Online Store.

so if u r not activating it via iTunes, u'll bypass the contract part.

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