TARC you mean.

You want to do A-levels but don't want to spend a fortune, given Sunway, Taylor's and Inti. Inti is the cheapest. Who cares about the environment? You are only there for 18 months, it's not like you are going to spend 4 years there doing your degree. I find all those arguments about how good is the environment, classroom and all unconvincing. People go to college attend class and go home, who cares if the library is ill-stocked or the basketball court sucks or this or that, after all in A-level, all you need to do to score A is to do lots of exercises, you don't need to do research, you don't need to play basketball. So what's the big deal? If you want to make a decision based on something, then let it base on fees, location(from your house), and to some extend lecturers.



It also is damn blardy cheap.

Does anyone have any feedback 'bout sunway in JB?

There are many coffee shops out there, near the place you call workshops. And students all hang out there. You see many sunway students out there over there, because Taylors and Inti colleges are there. Friends are there. And then most of us drive, because we not only have the parking lots right in front. In fact we have a free one, but further. We can park our cars without worrying our cars being tolled away.

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Added on February 29, 2008, 8:30 amI think that you're being judgemental. This is only a personal point of views. And everyone has their own preferences. So there's no convincing or unconvincing. It's 20k++ per course. So why not CHOOSE?

while some people want to be 100% studious; stuck at home and do a lot of exercises. Some people want to enjoy college life while studying. And this is college, unlike secondary schooll where you are forced to study a lot of facts; join activities; Pre-U or not, we should enjoy. It's college's life!

And these facilities are definitely a bonus when you want to come out and sweat!

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 08:31 AM

Personal opinion, sunway environment is great compare to any other college, the workshop don't really affect anything about ur studies, they doing their business, u do ur studies. about the parking issue...just come before 8am...u will find plenty of free parking outside the campus, about the lecturer, quite fun actually..coz most of them are foreigner...they really know how to tell joke....about taylor....my friend went there study sam last year...and within 1 year...he pro in playing dota, pool, futsal....good place to enjoy social life...so go taylor lo~

You are wrong. People who do A-level are likely to have a greater goal to achieve. It is either you make it and enter a good university, or fail drastically and end up in some obscure institution. If one places enjoyment and partying as important as academics, one should seriously reconsider one's purpose for doing A-level. Hence all this talk about how good the sporting grounds are or how beautiful a campus is is pretty much pointless. LSE is in the middle of London, would one forgo to the opportunity to go there just because the campus is not beautiful?

It goes to show that many people here have misplaced priorities hence valueless opinions.

Then you are wrong again. To get into good universities, you not only have to be academically good, but actively fit as well. I have friends who spend their time partying, doing a lot of sports every evening with their course mates. And score very well for A-levels that earn them scholarships to overseas reputable universities. It is not pointless. It is only pointless for those who only want to sit down and study, and nothing more. Do i have to emphasize more that it really depends on individual? And since it depends on individual and I also can say that what you've said is pointless as well.



Those who DON'T DO A-levels ARE NOT UNLIKELY to have lower goals to achieve. This statement of yours seem to look down on other pre-u courses. Are you trying to say that taking A-Lvls make you more supreme than the others? What makes you think so?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 10:12 AM

blue:
Not if you want to go to the UK or Canada or Australia. Even in the States, being good in athletics will not gain you a place. Being unique on the other hand does and that has got nothing to do with how nice a campus is , or how well a college is equipped.

red:
Did it occur to you that they got it because of their academics alone or because their priorities were their studies? Partying and exercising are just ways to de-stress. Never their priorities.

blue:
Again, misplaced priority. If everybody has the same priority we won't be having this conversation. That said, everyone studying for an a-level, should have the
same priority. That is to do well in it. A-levels only serve one purpose, that is to gain a a place in university. If an individual who intends to do A-level with a goal different from academics, then that individual has misplace his priority. No ifs, no buts, nothing. It is as simple as that.

green:
It is you who thought so, hardly surprising because you are so into the "it depends on the individual" maxim.

This post has been edited by feynman: Feb 29 2008, 10:31 AM

I don't see why people would not think this statemnet is arrogant. Everyone who wants to study, wants to do well. But that doesn't mean just because that person has chosen A-lvls, he or she has a greater goal to achieve. Don't you think that indirectly you're saying people who take other pre-U courses have no great goals compared to those who have chosen A-lvls. If you don't see it, I don't know, I am sorry that your arrogance has covered you up. Because as far as I am concerned, those who have seen this statement thinks it's very arrogant.

Yes, A-lvls do have harder papers and harder syllabus. But having harder papers and harder syllabus don't mean that there are greater goals, and that also certainly don't put those who take A-lvls as people who are supremely smarter and more ambitious.



If you didn't have such perception in your head, you wouldn't even include such statement like this. And yes, I am into the "it depends on the invidual" maxim because our education system has taught us all to fit in, not to be unique. Look at all the competitive schools, teachers neglecting students from the art stream; parents wanting their children to be in science stream...If you have taken your entire education overseas, then good for you.

We're all stuck in a rat race, sometimes being forced to choose what we never want. If we never learn to have our own preferences, we will only be manipulated, becoming into something we don't recognize. So, individuality is actually something very important, especially at a generation like this? When everyone only wants to fit in.

Taking A-lvls is to gain a place in university. So do the other pre-U courses. But that doesn't mean we have misplaced our priorities just because I place it getting a good grades as second and making friends as first? Or having fun as first? So what if I choose the college because it's near my house then only choose A-lvls instead how good the lectures from which colleges are? Does it also mean I have misplaced my priorities? It doesn't matter as long as the end of the day I do well, get a place in a good university..I have already accomplished the entire purpose of taking A-lvls! You only tell those who don't do well that they have misplaced their priorities. So I know I can do well no matter where I go; so I choose colleges with other preferences instead of its academic achievements; am I misplacing my priorities?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 12:45 PM

I don't get what you are babbling about and certainly don't know what is your contention. All I have been saying and am now reaffirming is that one who is doing A-level shall have one's utmost priority in academics period. If one have chosen a college based on anything else ie facilities, aesthetics then one has seriously misplaced one's priorities.(that was my first entry) And yes, if you have put academics behind all those things that you have said in the last paragraph, then you have misplace your priorities.

One goes to a college that suits one's budget, preferably close to home and do well in the course. Priority is to do well, facilities and all, secondary. That is my case. So what's your problem? Unhappy because I said all this talk on Sunway having better facilties, taylor's close to come cafes are pointless?

If you want to feel that what i have said earlier on as arrogant, then feel free to do so. No one gives a tosh on how you feel.

This post has been edited by feynman: Feb 29 2008, 12:52 PM

I am not unhappy. But I just don't get it why do you have to set your priorities so strictly? I am just trying to say, taking these courses, it doesnt matter whatever the priorities are, ultimately, you just have to finish it. Get into it, work, play, sports, get a place in university... That's it. Unless you have lotsa $$ to jump around. So I also don't understand what the problem is with you always saying that this is misplacing priorities.

If you're talking about already getting enrolled into certain courses, once you're enrolled, duh... You have to DO WELL, that's your first priority. But hey, we're talking about choosing colleges. And that, a lot of other things have to come into mind... The priorities in different situations and conditions, change. And whether or not you do well, that one, you don't think about it when you choose colleges. Especially you live in another states.

I have the rights to feel and people have the rights not to care. After all, this is a forum. We can voice what we feel and not having to bother whether people care or not, right?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 01:11 PM

Yeah, but please read carefully, ENVIRONMENT.
I have 2 friends of mine over there studying engineering. There is a lecturer offer whole different sorts of activities that does not concern the institute at all. Like freesbee and catch the flag. It's a way to gather people and socialize. It's really great fun playing these mini games with them.

About their studies, I can't comment anything about it.

I actually live very near there...
Seriously it's big and nice...
But somehow I haven't really heard people talking about it academically.. =.=

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Added on February 29, 2008, 1:20 pmI have a friend who lives in JB but came down to KL's Sunway to study.
Her reason was: That place s**

Ok, I seriously don't know why. But i guess it's because JB doesnt offer the course she wants.

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 01:20 PM

What are you saying? The fact that you are going to do A-levels means that the priority that you should have is to do well. So how can you say what you put first doesn't matter. This is absurd. This is clearly a case of not prioritizing properly. Choosing a college base on such petty details is foolish at best. Choosing Sunway over a cheaper alternative just because Sunway is more spacious and a whole bunch of reasons found on brochures is silliness at the highest degree. One shouldn't burden oneself on things like these because one should strive to do well, and one's performance in A-levels has got nothing to do with how nice a college is. People here are suggesting and emphasizing the importance of such aspects in one's instructions in A-level when clearly it is not. This is where priorities are misplaced.

Why is it so important? Because if you don't do well, that's pretty much the end and the reason why you would want to do A-level is because you intend to go to university. Why would anyone do A-levels if it is not for an opportunity to study in a university?

It's not only for A-lvls, all pre-u courses. I guess you have misunderstood, or I have not put my words correctly in the last post.

I said, the priorities changed when it comes to choosing colleges when you are living somewhere or are financially constraint. Here's an example : Let's say if you can't afford, you can't go into Taylors or Sunway because they are more expensive. So you go into TARC. In this case, your first priority of course is MONEY.

Note:I am not saying people in TARC are poorer people.

And then I also mentioned, once you're enrolled in a course, any courses at all in any colleges. Then your priority is to do well and get a place in an university.

That's what I meant.

If you still think this is misplacing priorities I seriously have nothing else to say.

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 01:53 PM

Cut if off...

feynman :

Has it ever occurred to you that there are actually people who are very capable of studying A-levels while being active in various activities/socities and what nots.

And that's what priorities are for.

Priority 1 : Do well in A-levels - all 3 colleges provide you with the opportunity to do so.

Priority 2: blah blah blah.

Read my first post then.......you took me off tangent, so much so that we are going nowhere.
Your point?

Even for A-levels,there are ppl who do

"is sunway good?"

hahah ...

of course sunway is good,cos they earn so much! ...hehe !

courses...it depends actually.