im gonna enrol sunway to study a-levels and it costs like 26k.. n i need to noe does it worth it or should i go to kbu or kdu.. are t lecturers good and stuffs.. i really don wanna waste my parents money cuz im feeling guilty enof.

Where do you live? Ok, Klang. Try INTI subang.

This post has been edited by feynman: Feb 28 2008, 01:01 AM

When it comes to studying , the venue only plays a partial role ,

Lecturers , environment , facilities , and self discipline represents whats needed on the whole to be in a ' Good Studying Environment '

What good does it make if you were to go to sunway and not study .

I am personally from KBU , and I'm not sure of how good or how bad the lecturers are for the A Levels program , But from my point of view , there is no perfect college .. There will never be a time where you will get all great lecturers , or lecturers that you will like if that sounds more towards your taste

Everything has its ups and downs and nothing is perfect , study with an open mind and concentrate on your goal instead of anything else , then I'm sure you will get the biggest bang for your buck

Cheers

take a visit to other colleges & compare with sunway.

their A-level lecturers for science subjects are indeed great, according to my friend. facilities wise are of course well-equiped (that's why you pay so much for it)

but i do believe other colleges' lecturers can be as good as Sunway's, at the end of the day it depends on you yourself, how much effort you would like to put into your studies

How about Taylor's University College? They are really good and popular in their A level studies. I studied SAM in Taylor and i'm not sure about A level fees in taylor, but i truly like taylor's lecturers and their services. I don't feel any regret studying at Taylor b4.

Their lecturers are helpful and professional. Although some might not be able to speak very very very good english, their knowledge on the subject is deep. 1 of my lecturer (maths) always print us extra exercises automatically to let us practice, esp near exam.

Good luck

Edited: Typo

This post has been edited by Axuel: Feb 28 2008, 01:06 AM

A-Levels go HELP College or Taylor's College.

Hi, I was from Sunway, though I didn't take A-lvls, my friends did. One thing about Sunway's A-lvls, compared with Taylors or Help, it's that they have like 200 hundreds students whereas Taylors has 1000+ The students are so many that the lecturers just walk in and out of the classes not knowing who's who. But in Sunway, you get very personal attention from the lecturers, which I personally think it's good.

Other than that, the environment. I personally like Sunway's Environment better than Taylors or Help. I bet you've seen them already. I think you will know why too.

I am sorry if I have offended any Taylorians or Helpians, it's just personal opinions. But when it comes to academic-wise, it really depends on you. Taylors have better results because of their numerous students. Probability, you know?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 28 2008, 08:26 AM

Not really. taylor's is really good for pre-u study. its well known nationwide. i can tell u after ur study u will think its worth it though u pay for so much. i studied SAM in taylors and my fren studied A-level. both of us did very well. their lecturer/mentor really care bout u and not like wat mentioned above "walk in n out" only. if u really feel like the lecturer is not good, u can talk to student service centre. their management really good and efficient. they response quickly to ur complain. not like sunway. cos i studied in sunway for prof papers after SAM n i feel tat its not worth it for wat i paid for. their management is so inefficient n S**KS.... Oops.... go to taylor's n u wont regret.

n 1 more thing. taylor's has better result even though got numerous student. this mean tat 90-95% out of 100 got good result. if the lecturer is not good and has numerous student, the probability should be low. if the other college got less students and the probability still low mean tat their academic result really not good.

This post has been edited by Bank: Feb 28 2008, 09:21 AM

i am former taylor SAM student and currently studying at sunway for degree

in my opinion, taylor is more better than sunway(pre-u)
taylor really proffesional in doing pre-U
no doubt on taylor, the best pre-u uni in malaysia

Sunway uni col only famous in it MUFY program, not entire pre-u program
----------taylor very expensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

This post has been edited by Oakha: Feb 28 2008, 10:47 AM

I am well aware about Taylor's reputation and also other things because of 90% of my secondary school friends are all there. The "walk in and out" thing is not my personal opinions but their complaints. In fact, many of them. Like I have pointed out, the college's reputation is one thing, your result is another. The college may be so highly reputable, if you don't even work hard, it's not use. So no matter which college you're in, as long as you work, put in effort, you will be well off at least, your results.
After all, A-lvls...does it make any difference taking it in different colleges?

I beg to differ. I was from Taylors, though not Alevels. But anyway, students wise, SAM would probably not lose out to Alevels, so scenario here is more or less the same. From my experience, lecturers don't just walk in and out of the classes. Except for the LAN Studies lecturers, basically all my 5 other lecturers know everyone in class and you do get personal attention if needed.

Environment wise, if you are talking about the overall environment, then yes I agree Sunway is better. But that doesn't include facilities and location. No idea about facilities, but considering the fact that you pay equally as much if not more than Sunway for Taylor's, facilities shouldn't be bad. Location somehow I still prefer Taylor's, it may be hard to find parking in SS15, but to me that's still better than Sunway's parking area where all the workshops are. Personally I feel unsafe there, but well that's just my opinion.

Probability won't be high if your number of successful students ain't high compared to your student population, no?

Er, workshops? We have a huge parking space just right infront of the college with RM2 per entrance. And as far as I know, facilities wise Sunway is definitely better before the new SEGI college because of the sports facilities Sunway has, like indoor badminton court, olympic size swimming pool...

I don't know about taylors, because i don't see them there in the campus. And i just find the environment very packed and messy. Everywhere also shop lots. That's the only thing I don't like about taylors. Other than that, I have nothing against it. I am someone who seeks for a better environment. It's important for me. That's it.

Results wise, I still stand for my belief that lectures or lecturers don't matter. Because I am not that kind of students who listen attentively during lectures or classes. Sometimes i do, when they tell jokes or stories. HAHa..

I was from Sunway, I have not personally seen the interaction between lecturers and students in Taylors, that's what my friends told me. I know my friends from SAM had fun, no complaints. The rest from A-Levels, some complained, some just bears with it, some likes it. So I guess it differs, depending on that individual.



This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 28 2008, 12:36 PM

If you want environment , KBU environment also not bad ..

Anyway, IMO sunway does provide better environment if u prefer the environment. Taylor is a bit packed and not much space for walking. Walking out the main gate and the next thing u see will be shop lots, cars, motorbikes, people. Taylor's don't have badminton court nor basketball court. If u see ppl playing basketball actually tat is the parking space for teachers, just that is past working hours already. But i heard Taylor's now have ping pong table and gym equipment at the Replacement Centre (Opposite Taylor's). Correct me if i'm wrong.

Currently i'm at Monash uni, it is really spacious and wide. But still hvn't get used to such situation, making me like, walking from classroom to the main gate is such a big difference compared to Taylor

But i do agree Taylor's lecturer will pay attention to their students, at least it is in my case. My 5 lecturers know each one of us well and even know our behaviour, and even nicknames! I heard the lecturer themselves will discuss and talk about their students if they know each other are teaching the same class.

Since i'm the one who prefer lecturers more than environment, so i would say Taylor would be my recommendation for my friends next time. Hey, no offence to other colleges ya Just voicing out my opinion

oh well..for alevels i thought ppl wud always suggest HELP...for SUNWAY is really juz popular for their MUFY and the CAT..correct me if im wrong..coz i really dun noe anything bout it...im just a spm leaver who gonna enroll my self to taylor's for SAM 2nd intake... through all the forums and stuffs seldom see tat they will suggest doin A levels in SUNWAY...btw HELP is really popular for its a levels and its london nt cambridge A-levels =) this is juz my opinion

thanks for da information. in that case i guess no worries about gng to sunway college.. so wat abt da fee structure? any1 has any idea for a-levels???.... taylors tooo...

I knew there's a parking space in front of the college, but I had no idea if students' were allowed to park there, even so I doubt it could accomodate most of them, unless the parking space is as huge as the one found in the new Monash campus, then I have nth else to say.

Well I don't deny the fact that taylor's lacks many of those outdoor sports facilities, but I don't see how would that affect your studies in college. Facilities like labs, computers etc on the other hand, are more related and is more likely to affect your studies.

Packed yes, messy, well it depends. I wouldn't say that area is much worse than those found next to sunway college where are the workshops are. In fact those shop lots around taylor's are where you find many varieties of food compared to sunway, there's not without a reason why you get to see quite often many sunway students coming all the way to ss15 during lunch hour.

Hmm probably the scenario is slightly different for a-levels in taylor's then.

dear,

the parking space in front of sunway college is specially for students, and not just that, but the condo also offers parking space for students whereby they can rent the parking space, if im not wrong

LOL.... that place is a bloody 2ndary school

i agree... dont think of anywhere else...

why taylors? they have a very very good track records

why HELP? they offer more $$ to the taylors teachers so a few cabut there...

another option if u have no $$ is TAR...

dont need 2 think of the rest

Okay, my mistake on that part then.