Hi, I was from Sunway, though I didn't take A-lvls, my friends did. One thing about Sunway's A-lvls, compared with Taylors or Help, it's that they have like 200 hundreds students whereas Taylors has 1000+ The students are so many that the lecturers just walk in and out of the classes not knowing who's who. But in Sunway, you get very personal attention from the lecturers, which I personally think it's good.

Other than that, the environment. I personally like Sunway's Environment better than Taylors or Help. I bet you've seen them already. I think you will know why too.

I am sorry if I have offended any Taylorians or Helpians, it's just personal opinions. But when it comes to academic-wise, it really depends on you. Taylors have better results because of their numerous students. Probability, you know?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 28 2008, 08:26 AM

I am well aware about Taylor's reputation and also other things because of 90% of my secondary school friends are all there. The "walk in and out" thing is not my personal opinions but their complaints. In fact, many of them. Like I have pointed out, the college's reputation is one thing, your result is another. The college may be so highly reputable, if you don't even work hard, it's not use. So no matter which college you're in, as long as you work, put in effort, you will be well off at least, your results.
After all, A-lvls...does it make any difference taking it in different colleges?

Er, workshops? We have a huge parking space just right infront of the college with RM2 per entrance. And as far as I know, facilities wise Sunway is definitely better before the new SEGI college because of the sports facilities Sunway has, like indoor badminton court, olympic size swimming pool...

I don't know about taylors, because i don't see them there in the campus. And i just find the environment very packed and messy. Everywhere also shop lots. That's the only thing I don't like about taylors. Other than that, I have nothing against it. I am someone who seeks for a better environment. It's important for me. That's it.

Results wise, I still stand for my belief that lectures or lecturers don't matter. Because I am not that kind of students who listen attentively during lectures or classes. Sometimes i do, when they tell jokes or stories. HAHa..

I was from Sunway, I have not personally seen the interaction between lecturers and students in Taylors, that's what my friends told me. I know my friends from SAM had fun, no complaints. The rest from A-Levels, some complained, some just bears with it, some likes it. So I guess it differs, depending on that individual.



This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 28 2008, 12:36 PM

There are many coffee shops out there, near the place you call workshops. And students all hang out there. You see many sunway students out there over there, because Taylors and Inti colleges are there. Friends are there. And then most of us drive, because we not only have the parking lots right in front. In fact we have a free one, but further. We can park our cars without worrying our cars being tolled away.

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Added on February 29, 2008, 8:30 amI think that you're being judgemental. This is only a personal point of views. And everyone has their own preferences. So there's no convincing or unconvincing. It's 20k++ per course. So why not CHOOSE?

while some people want to be 100% studious; stuck at home and do a lot of exercises. Some people want to enjoy college life while studying. And this is college, unlike secondary schooll where you are forced to study a lot of facts; join activities; Pre-U or not, we should enjoy. It's college's life!

And these facilities are definitely a bonus when you want to come out and sweat!

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 08:31 AM

Then you are wrong again. To get into good universities, you not only have to be academically good, but actively fit as well. I have friends who spend their time partying, doing a lot of sports every evening with their course mates. And score very well for A-levels that earn them scholarships to overseas reputable universities. It is not pointless. It is only pointless for those who only want to sit down and study, and nothing more. Do i have to emphasize more that it really depends on individual? And since it depends on individual and I also can say that what you've said is pointless as well.



Those who DON'T DO A-levels ARE NOT UNLIKELY to have lower goals to achieve. This statement of yours seem to look down on other pre-u courses. Are you trying to say that taking A-Lvls make you more supreme than the others? What makes you think so?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 10:12 AM

I don't see why people would not think this statemnet is arrogant. Everyone who wants to study, wants to do well. But that doesn't mean just because that person has chosen A-lvls, he or she has a greater goal to achieve. Don't you think that indirectly you're saying people who take other pre-U courses have no great goals compared to those who have chosen A-lvls. If you don't see it, I don't know, I am sorry that your arrogance has covered you up. Because as far as I am concerned, those who have seen this statement thinks it's very arrogant.

Yes, A-lvls do have harder papers and harder syllabus. But having harder papers and harder syllabus don't mean that there are greater goals, and that also certainly don't put those who take A-lvls as people who are supremely smarter and more ambitious.



If you didn't have such perception in your head, you wouldn't even include such statement like this. And yes, I am into the "it depends on the invidual" maxim because our education system has taught us all to fit in, not to be unique. Look at all the competitive schools, teachers neglecting students from the art stream; parents wanting their children to be in science stream...If you have taken your entire education overseas, then good for you.

We're all stuck in a rat race, sometimes being forced to choose what we never want. If we never learn to have our own preferences, we will only be manipulated, becoming into something we don't recognize. So, individuality is actually something very important, especially at a generation like this? When everyone only wants to fit in.

Taking A-lvls is to gain a place in university. So do the other pre-U courses. But that doesn't mean we have misplaced our priorities just because I place it getting a good grades as second and making friends as first? Or having fun as first? So what if I choose the college because it's near my house then only choose A-lvls instead how good the lectures from which colleges are? Does it also mean I have misplaced my priorities? It doesn't matter as long as the end of the day I do well, get a place in a good university..I have already accomplished the entire purpose of taking A-lvls! You only tell those who don't do well that they have misplaced their priorities. So I know I can do well no matter where I go; so I choose colleges with other preferences instead of its academic achievements; am I misplacing my priorities?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 12:45 PM

I am not unhappy. But I just don't get it why do you have to set your priorities so strictly? I am just trying to say, taking these courses, it doesnt matter whatever the priorities are, ultimately, you just have to finish it. Get into it, work, play, sports, get a place in university... That's it. Unless you have lotsa $$ to jump around. So I also don't understand what the problem is with you always saying that this is misplacing priorities.

If you're talking about already getting enrolled into certain courses, once you're enrolled, duh... You have to DO WELL, that's your first priority. But hey, we're talking about choosing colleges. And that, a lot of other things have to come into mind... The priorities in different situations and conditions, change. And whether or not you do well, that one, you don't think about it when you choose colleges. Especially you live in another states.

I have the rights to feel and people have the rights not to care. After all, this is a forum. We can voice what we feel and not having to bother whether people care or not, right?

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 01:11 PM

I actually live very near there...
Seriously it's big and nice...
But somehow I haven't really heard people talking about it academically.. =.=

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Added on February 29, 2008, 1:20 pmI have a friend who lives in JB but came down to KL's Sunway to study.
Her reason was: That place s**

Ok, I seriously don't know why. But i guess it's because JB doesnt offer the course she wants.

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 01:20 PM

It's not only for A-lvls, all pre-u courses. I guess you have misunderstood, or I have not put my words correctly in the last post.

I said, the priorities changed when it comes to choosing colleges when you are living somewhere or are financially constraint. Here's an example : Let's say if you can't afford, you can't go into Taylors or Sunway because they are more expensive. So you go into TARC. In this case, your first priority of course is MONEY.

Note:I am not saying people in TARC are poorer people.

And then I also mentioned, once you're enrolled in a course, any courses at all in any colleges. Then your priority is to do well and get a place in an university.

That's what I meant.

If you still think this is misplacing priorities I seriously have nothing else to say.

This post has been edited by ychien89: Feb 29 2008, 01:53 PM