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post Nov 7 2017, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 6 2017, 08:26 PM)
Superman's resurrection can beat this or not?  hmm.gif
Best DCEU film aside from WW, which happens to be the least Snyder-like film despite being directed by Snyder  laugh.gif


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Actually re-watching that scene makes me want to do a MOS + BvS marathon before JL.

That scene was quite the something; plus how he inadvertently looks like Reeves in one of the frames just before he flies up into the world engine; goosebumps bro!
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post Nov 7 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 7 2017, 10:26 AM)
http://collider.com/justice-league-runtime...ed/#warner-bros

TL;DR version

- 2 hour runtime is a WB decision
- Film budget is 300m, needs at least 1B to break even

Take with jar of salt. Got bad feeling about this already sweat.gif
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Just curious, what about the article is causing you to have a bad feeling about it by the way?
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post Nov 7 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 7 2017, 11:16 AM)
Means director want it to be longer than 2 hours to accommodate the story but WB meddling too much again
Jgn2 Suicide Squad 2.0  laugh.gif

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-visi...a-rushed-916693
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Hmm, OK...now I get it.

That's a bummer. Makes me wonder what Zack's final cut was and I wonder if he has it in his capacity to release a Director's cut version.

For example, I much preferred the original Blade Runner's director's cut (the one with Harrison Ford's voice-over narration) compared to the theatrical release sans narration.
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post Nov 7 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 7 2017, 12:17 PM)
From what I've heard, review embargo will be lifted on nov 15, so...  sweat.gif
Quite worrying considering WB only lifts it earlier IF the response is overwhelmingly positive like WW
Hoping for social media embargo to lift earlier though  sweat.gif
And Superman's resurrection  icon_rolleyes.gif
Too much to cover in current runtime  I agree, but hopefully Whedon can pull off a masterclass in editing?  whistling.gif
Snyder tends to film a lot of useless scenes anyways, like scenes of feet and hands  laugh.gif
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Hmm, that is kind of worrying actually.

And now that you've put things in perspective, like the new characters to introduce, main villain and Supes return...I kinda wonder if 2 hours is enough sad.gif
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post Nov 7 2017, 11:06 PM

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Finally!!!

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post Nov 7 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Nov 7 2017, 01:13 PM)
sure not enough IMO

who knows? maybe at the end scenes, after the final boss fight, Sup sudden appears in his black suit with glowing red eyes
then screen fade to black, "To be continue..."
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Jason Momoa did say that they have an after credits scene which was shot when Zack was still directing hmm.gif
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post Nov 8 2017, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 8 2017, 06:55 PM)
Purchased my tickets for Nov 15th!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

This is the earliest screening date I think

Me right now... (have already watched Thor Ragnarok)  laugh.gif

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Wow, where and what time?!

Not a stalker just really keen to watch it early too blush.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 8 2017, 08:58 PM)
GSC  laugh.gif
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Thanks! Will keep a look out.
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post Nov 9 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 9 2017, 10:36 AM)
It's a valid concern, but I said have to wait till I see it
A lot of fans are pissed either because they think it's too short for the story or they need it to be longer so they can enjoy the characters they love longer  hmm.gif
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In bold. Right there. Drop mic bro..drop mic!

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post Nov 14 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 14 2017, 10:06 AM)
Hah, spoke too soon. JL is being torn apart by critics at the premiere

WB, Snyder... You had one job! mad.gif
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Are you watching the premiere?

Man this sucks!

However, there seem to be more positive comments regarding the two mid credit scenes.
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post Nov 14 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 14 2017, 10:28 AM)
No, just read the compilation here... it's mixed to negative especially for RT critics  sad.gif

https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comme...edia_reactions/
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That's a bummer...oh well...still watching blush.gif

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post Nov 14 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 14 2017, 09:34 PM)
In case some people are still unaware... Justice League will have TWO post-credit scenes... stay until the end

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Crap, I cant wait!!!
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post Nov 15 2017, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 15 2017, 12:22 AM)
I am predicting a rotten score for JL
That's 3 critical flops and final nail on the coffin for Snyder mad.gif
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Oh man, this is NOT good.

But SO far la, most of the comments on comicbookmovie.com have been quite varied but seem to sway on the positive side of things I think.

But man, this coming from real critics...I don't know what to say.

Your hype level still at 100%?
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post Nov 15 2017, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 15 2017, 09:44 AM)
Will reserve judgement till I see it
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Same here, I mean, RT gave Thor Ragnarok such a high score and while it was a good movie, I did not think it deserved such a high rating - but that's just me.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 15 2017, 10:58 AM)
Well, reaction thread on reddit got meltdown until they had to unpin it  laugh.gif
There's a difference though, Thor, while being fun and nothing else, was structured properly and had a coherent plot. JL on the other hand could be just a guilty pleasure  laugh.gif
Won't know till I see it. But admittedly, I'm going in with much lower expectations  sweat.gif
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Still excited for tonight!!!
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post Nov 15 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(apecorp @ Nov 15 2017, 12:35 PM)
I really miss the old days how just movie posters, a trailer on tv and the hype from frens will excite me to go watch a movie. Now i have to depend on a stupid meter rated by some stranger wit so many complicated calculation to its rating system... bla bla... Haiz
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Ye goode olde days.
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post Nov 15 2017, 01:03 PM

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Holy crap, someone posted a HUGE spoiler on comicbookmovie.com about how Supes is resurrected. So far, I've managed to stay away from that article - but apparently, that resurrection scene is followed by one of the best scenes in the DCEU - this from a commenter who had seen the movie already. A few others also saying that it works well. Man I just want to get off work and do a MOS & BvS marathon before the show tonight...
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post Nov 17 2017, 09:23 AM

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Probably a bit delayed but I had some time to reflect on the movie and here are some thoughts and observations:

On a general level I think it worked quite well; I think they are gradually finding the balance between the serious and light-hearted tones - this is of course in reference to how dark BvS was. Some of the humour really worked well especially with The Flash; while at other times, it just fell flat unfortunately. I personally think that cutting the movie down to 2 hours in this case was a decision that they should have really considered before executing it; I say this because another half hour could have helped develop the characters more. I mean, I wanted to see more Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg.

I hate to say this too but I think there were some pacing, editing and continuity issues in the movie and as a movie-goer sometimes these take you out of the experience of being in the movie.

Character Observations:

1. Wonder Woman - Gal Gadot I think now owns this role. She's really good as Diana Prince and I think she was more the gel that held the team together compared to Batman or Superman. Almost like a mother figure to the league.

2. Batman - Actually I kind of missed the BvS version of him. The fight sequences were somewhat toned down (maybe for the general audience appeal? I dunno). What I liked though was we saw a bit more of the Bruce Wayne in him; I guess the more civilian side and that he initiates getting the league together. On a separate note though, it felt like Ben Affleck was a little distant in the movie; not as engaged in his role as he was in BvS.

3. Aquaman - Dude is badass; I can see Jason Momoa taking this role further in his solo movie. Not much of an opportunity to see him shine in this one though.

4. Cyborg - While I think his final look could've been better I think that Ray Fisher was also solid in this one; I can't say too much as I did not watch Teen Titans and I don't know too much about the character but from that perspective; it felt like he was the big brother of the league.

5. Flash - Ezra nailed it and I hope they get to settle things with his solo movie. I mean most of his humour was on-point and his moves and the CGI during the speed force just blew my mind, I like this take on the speed force and the soundtrack that goes along with it. I really wanna see more of that in the solo movie.

6. Superman - Glad to see that he's back but it felt as though his screen time was too short. I kind of felt like he did not have enough time to recover after being brought back to life and then helping the league. I don't fully disagree with how he was revived but I was hoping for more of a natural revival. This coming from a Henry Cavill fan; I hope they do a MOS2 where he gets to show his acting chops and persona.

Pacing, Editing and Continuity

1. To me at least, the pacing felt somewhat rushed, it felt like I couldn't breathe or settle down until the part where they were all in the Bat Cave for the first time discussing how to revive Supes. To me that was the point of the movie where things started to settle down a little. Before that it was one action sequence after another.

2. Regarding Continuity; after Steppenwolf's attack, they convened to meet Jim Gordon if I'm not mistaken - anyone notice a black dude in a trench coat lingering around? Was that Silas Stone? It kind of felt weird that he was walking around but could not see his face nor did he have any lines.

3. Some things I noticed that were in the trailer but not in the movie - I know they do this sometimes but oh well:

- In the trailer Aquaman says 'Honestly I think we're all gonna die' in the movie he says 'Honestly I think we're all gonna be dead'. Then after the lasso scenario Flash says ' I didn't hear anything after he said we're all gonna die'.

- In the trailer I think it was the final battle scene, Aquaman and Cyborg are facing Steppenwolf then Wonder Woman lands in front of them and says 'Shall we?' That's missing in the movie I think.

- In the trailer there was a scene where Wonder Woman says something like 'Do not engage alone, we do this together'. I think that was missing also in the movie.

- Bruce looking at a hologram of Supergirl - also missing in the movie.

- In the trailer there was the scene where Alfred looks up and we are left to guess whether it's Superman/Green Lantern/Martian Manhunter and he says 'let's hope you're not too late' - also missing from the movie.

- Some scenes involving Cyborg like where he was playing college football, walking down the alley in his football jacket and as Cyborg flying and we see how his cyborg side covers his face when he reaches the clouds, also one scene where he blocks a car from landing on a police office and says 'I think you should move' - I think all these are missing from the movie.

- In the final trailer which opens and leads us to believe it's a dream sequence of Lois meeting Clark in the field well the scene was totally different in the movie no reference to the ring she was wearing etc.

I think there's a few more but I can't remember them now. As I said above, I know they do this sometimes and after we know of the extensive re-shoots, that's a good reason why some scenes are missing but because the earlier trailers have been released it was just a bit awkward for me to see the scenes play out differently or totally missing from the movie.

CGI

1. Overall I think it was good although I think they could've done more work with Steppenwolf.

2. Cavill's moustache - I thought that I did not have a good eye for CGI but it was really obvious in the opening scene of the phone camera footage where the kids interviewed Superman. I mean, he looked like Cavill but with a seriously awkward jaw line - even my wife noticed this!. Other scenes were done better. In fact, I think the only scenes where they did not have to remove his moustache was during the revival scene and how he initially battled the league for a bit and at the end when they got the Kent farm back. I mean, I could see it during the final battle and during the Flash race.

Soundtrack

1. To me was a bit meh, not as goosebumpy as MOS or BvS. Full respect to Danny Elfman but I was surprised to hear bits of the Avengers main theme in the movie - I noticed it especially in the scene where the team boards the Flying Fox and there was another scene with the team together later on. I was shocked coz that's like the Avengers theme.

Honestly guys, I really wanted this movie to work, like seriously I want it to do well, and I hope I don't sound like I am nit-picking; but these are just some of what I observed after watching the movie. I hate to troll and I hate to have a negative take on things but yea...

Long story short - I think a little more care could have gone into making the movie.

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post Nov 17 2017, 09:10 PM

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Sorry,

Just to add, been listening to Sigrid's 'Everybody Knows' and I have a feeling it was a Zack Snyder decision this song. Opening credits definitely his work.

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post Nov 20 2017, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 17 2017, 09:17 PM)
Memang his decision pun, I didn't like that song...  sweat.gif
Also this music that plays in the beginning, I thought I entered the wrong hall or something, cos it sounded like something from Star Wars or Marvel  laugh.gif Then towards the end, oooh JL theme


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I actually kind of liked the song blush.gif

On a whole though, I'm not sure if Elfman's theme worked this time around.

Now there's a petition from DC fans to get Zack Snyder's original cut released once it hits Blu-Ray.

I kinda wonder if it will really happen.

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