it must be her new corgi

its beside dataran prima condo
if u take taxi from kelana lrt will cost u 6 bucks
thumbs up for dr.jenny, good choice u make

but dr.jenny only working on sat,sun and mon

now only there on sun ah
anyway if she is not around u can look for dr.lai or dr.melvin
both of them also very nice

do u mind to elaborate more on the difference of the after effect of the surgery between the 2?
wat kinda complications or impact that might be face by newbies ?
i had a really terrible experience with dr.Y so i would strongly not recommend anybody esp newbies from going there.

juz my 2 cent

does it matter whether my issue is about neutering or not?
mayb u misunderstand my point
i never say tat he lacks skills or knowledge neither am i comparing who is better in neutering between the 2 vet.
ta fact that he have so much supporter glorifying him around, shows that he must be very knowledgeable
but as a vet he still lacks something crucial.

i am much more interested to know what kinda complications that the glider might face.

well, yes maybe you are not in the state of misunderstanding but your are in the state of confusion i guess.
i doubt u have the slightest idea of what my post mean.

do u mind to elaborate more on the difference of the after effect of the surgery between the 2?
wat kinda complications or impact that might be face by newbies ?
i had a really terrible experience with dr.Y so i would strongly not recommend anybody esp newbies from going there.

the meaning of my first 2 sentence, in case u dont understand means i would like to know wat is the difference between the condition of the 2 glider after being neuter by 2 different vets.

Plus wat kinda complications that newbie might find it hard to handle if being done by Dr.J
she dint elaborate on this, therefore i am sure most would like to know since she is the only one here who have tried it with both vet. I have no exp on this therefore its not for me to comment, thats why i ask kp ta difference.

my last sentence only suggest newbie against going to dr.Y base on my own personal experience just the same as how KP would suggest newbie to visit Dr.Y for neutering, I dont see anything wrong with it, everyone is entitled with their own opinion... no ? And if you still would like to bring your pets to DR.Y be my guest, its ur call. i am merely stating my opinion base on what i experience.

Read again what i said, i am recommending against going to Dr.Y, no matter whats ur pet problem

i have my fair share of experience with both vets, anyway aint u contradicting with urself as u mention that you have been to dr.J for 3-4 times and all were successfully cured but yet u say she is abit new or i dont know ??

surely anybody who have a 100% recovery rate after going to the same vet for 3-4 time can come up with a better point than i dont know ? therefore i truly doubt your understanding on the pov that we are arguing today.

Anyway i would agree that experience wise or knowledge wise dr.Y is than Dr.J but as a vet dr.y still lacks something crucial.

Again, i repeat, i clearly understand and respect KP comment, somehow its somebody who dont. If you still dun understand what i am trying to say, here kindly repeat the above post again. And aint you contradicting urself again as you dun understand what i am trying to say but yet keep on giving wrong impression of my intention here.



well first of all, i am not tat interested with ur pets past medical records however thanks for ta information as it strengthen my points with insightful medical data between the success rate of the 2 vets. Unfortunately this isnt the reason why i dislike Dr.y



Again i repeat. i clearly understand KP's post, And for the records i dont hate Dr.Y, just that i feel that he lacks the criteria of a good vet, and i am quite offended with your last remark on defending him by saying that he has tried his best. you have no idea what had i go through, pls do not simply hentam your facts out of nowhere if u duno anything, thank you.

thanks for sharing ur exp kp

not arguing,
kinda free today so juz having a nice chat only

and i understand and fully agree on what your trying to say dun worry.
well my thoughts would be

equipment, knowledge and experience wise i would surely agree that dr.yeoh's clinic is far better and much more advance if compare to hands and paws. afaik gas anesthesia will be much more expensive compare with normal anesthesia as gas one is much safer compare to the normal one.

for the normal one the vet have to determine ta correct amount sometimes with measurement as little as 0.xml and make sure this amount is enough to keep the patient asleep during the surgery to prevent bucking and also make sure its not too strong that the patient cant wake up after the surgery therefore the dosage must be very precise according to the weight and health condition of the patient at that moment. Furthermore with something as small as sg, its much much harder than doing it with cats and dogs.

whenever a surgery is required no matter which vet you went, there would surely be risk. risk of human factor or any unforeseen circumstances, therefore its obvious that most ppl will choose the one with the best equipment, knowledge or skills to increase the survival rate and to assure no other complication arise after the surgery. i clearly understand where your coming from based on your advice. i believe alot of ppl will be grateful to know this and i could understand ur feelings after the surgery. i would hav try to warn others about it and hope no one will have to face it again.

respect you for letting your glider bite u to stop himself from biting itself, i think there will be very few glider owner out there who is better than u

but still its too early to say which one is better, mayb we hear from reanne her exp after this. but i do agree that doing it with ta normal one will bring more stress to the glider after the surgery.

but my thoughts would be each glider will react differently and it would be quite hard to find that 2 glider will react or behave identically even if they are twins.

i wouldnt have noe the condition between iggy and micah before the surgery better than you. hence their health before doing the surgery will also impact the way they react after it, am i right ? furthermore like i say different glider will react differently to something.

well i do agree that since dr.jenny is using normal anesthesia the risk factor is surely much more higher and side effect after the surgery might be more obvious than using gas.

anyway thanks for sharing this

i dun think thats arguing
i am merely correcting you from misinterpreting my intention of what i am trying to say.
furthermore, i like to keep things transparent and for the records i have nothing against u.
so there is no need of apologizing.

i guess the one who is overreacting is you ba, and i am not angry with you anyway,
just the fact that i am abit frustrated tat you say dr.Y tried his best but the fact is he did neither do anything nor reduce my boy's suffering, had i know the outcome will be like this, i would have put him to sleep right from the start rather than having him suffering like this.
if you had not stray towards personal agenda i believe this would be a good discussion.

i am just doing my part of raising awareness.
just the same as how KP share her exp on dealing with 2 different vets for the neutering process.

me too at first put high hope on dr.Y due to the almost 100% positive review i receive from the net
but end up being disappointed, time after time. dont tell me that just because i am the unfortunate minority, i shouldnt have voice up and tell others about it to preserve his good image or records?

in a profession where a life is at stakes, u do 99% case perfectly dun giv u the rights that u can screw up the remaining one. i feel tat as a doc or a vet, one must treat every case seriously regardless whether its a small, big issue or whether it can bring in more profit or less. Dr.Jenny have show me the commitment that she take it very seriously of every patients and willing to go the extra mile without paid for the benefits of the patients. while dr.Y make me feel that he take lightly of my case and its doesn't worth his time to treat my boy as it wont bring much profit.

well i understand that he had no responsibility nor commitment that he must definitely cure my pets therefore i have no one to blame other than myself. Just for the records, i neither hate nor blame him, i just dislike their attitude and service thats all. if u can accept that kinda service its up to u. no doubt they have more staff, exp and equipment but they dun have a big heart as compare to those from hands and paw.

i dun see any reason why i am being label as bringing hateness rather than solution just because of this.
there is no clear logic when it comes to bringing ur pets to the vets. we can only learn from experience and the reason a forum to exist is to share information, experience and discussion.

i believe both myself and Kp have bring up our experience. thus its up to the rest to decide on their own what is best for their pets in order to avoid having the same experience as either me or KP.

i believe only then will this forum serve its purpose.
juz imagine if kp never share this, i believe ppl like emino will just hav to blindly choose a vets to do it.
i am just sharing my experience, its up to u all to decide whats best for your pets.

if ur somebody who can only hear something that you like to hear, a forum is not a place for u to hang out.
sometimes i feel that this place seems quite conservative, a little bit of sparks everybody goes hoo haa
dun u tink that its kinda boring to have only post like; omg thats cute, i want to get one, where can i get one,

precisely. thats why i said he might be genius but as a vet he still lacks something crucial.
this is a profession tat involves with flesh and blood, life and death and pets that we cares and loves.
we aint repairing our television here for god sake, if i had know in advance this is the kinda attitude that the famous dr.Y shows, i would have never bring my boy to him at the first place. there is some incident that i had which i would not wana disclose that makes me lost hope on them totally not only because of the attitude to be honest.

transparent referring to the discussion between u and me
raise awareness doesn't mean that i have to explain every single detail, a to z of wat happen
i believe both kp and myself have explain in details how the 2 vets works
thus i dun think its necessary for me to do so,
mayb in future i might be able to write out my exp of the whole ordeal but not now.

them refer to dr.y

i am just feeling eye sore of seeing ppl glorifying him all ta time, dun get me wrong not referring to u kp
i understand ur point perfectly. when it comes to neutering, he will decrease the risk factor significantly.

yes, thats why i hope now tat we have a choice, one can decide for themselves what is best for their pets.
sometimes i cant help but think wat might be the outcome if i have go to dr.J right from the start, anyhow there is no point talking about it now. i juz hope to get over all this asap.

This post has been edited by broken_string: Apr 2 2008, 03:24 PM

thanks for your concern.
he have ended his long suffering 2 months ago.

he will always be well now coz he is in heaven adi

thanks mate

its ok, there is nothing to feel sorry about

yeah the wound recover 90% adi but in the end he still die due to bacteria infection.
i was present during the autopsy, watching his small body being cut open and examine.
its nymph note swell up and dr.melvin explain to me that he might be facing the internal infection for sometime.
he say the nymph note will swell up when there is an infection to fight the bacteria.

because he was carrying the wound for more than 1 month thus its more than wat his little body can take.
i went to dr.y 3 times, nothing much was done and the wound turn from bad to worst, my last trip there, they dun even dare to hold my boy scare of getting bitten, tat time even an idiot will know tat he need treatment asap, but they juz tell me tis kinda case nothing much can do, giv me an xray paper ask me make a collar and rush me out of the treatment room with a bottle of iodine. when i paid, i heard the nurse said through the phone with another customer that they are bz now and have 2 doggy operation to be done in a short while. well only then i understand that they are not free to treat my glider as they have much important customer on the queue. how much can they earn saving my glider anyway, they might as well treat dogs which can earn them more money. well obviously i need help then only i come all the way there, if i know how to treat it i wouldnt need to come to u but they juz giv me some cheapskate excuse and send me away. iodine i can buy anywhere wat !!

so i have to bring my glider back in disappointment. later that night reanne recommended dr.jenny to me. i went there straight the next morning and only then he is given proper treatment. she dun have 3 nurse compare to dr.y but we manage to do alot for my sg, she helps me to clean the wound, cut off the dirty fur, and tried putting on the e-collar for more than 1 hour. she got bitten a few times as well during the process. she wasted more than 2 hours during my first trip there. she giv me 4 types of medication, 2 internal and 2 external which consist of antiseptic to wash the wound and cream to apply on the wound plus antibiotic to fight infection and anti-inflammation to reduce the swelling. Only after visiting dr.jenny i manage to put the wound under control. and she only charge me 15 for consultation and 22 for medication compare to dr.yeoh's 30 bucks iodine which dint help at all.

dr.jenny treatment is very straightforward and simple, i dun tink u would need a genius to figure it out.

and no i dun own any glider now, and dun think i ever will.