V10 is coming
Gamuda selling is quite stubborn, keep on coming up one.
TFP (Mesdaq) is a poor fella, listing on wrong day.
Recently IPO become a losing game liao.
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Feb 22 2008, 04:39 PM, updated 18y ago
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V10 is coming
Gamuda selling is quite stubborn, keep on coming up one. TFP (Mesdaq) is a poor fella, listing on wrong day. Recently IPO become a losing game liao. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 22 2008, 04:45 PM |
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Feb 22 2008, 04:55 PM
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Notice that contruction stocks, political linked stocks (like MRCB, Tebrau) all being hit hard in recent 2 days drop.
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Feb 22 2008, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Feb 22 2008, 05:17 PM) Ya lo, I wondering how those ppl can know that buying 100 shares can push up the stock price by 1 bit at last min. Contract note is accumulated one for the whole day, the fella bough 1 lot (x100) doesn't necessary only buy 1 lot only, may be already bought some for today, then last minute take 1 lot to make it close 'higher'. Wil not buy anymore hsi-c2 from now on cost i used up all my budget that allocate for this counter It is quite a norm now in KLSE to make last minute transaction to make it closed a little bit higher. |
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Feb 22 2008, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2008, 10:41 PM) Thank you for sharing the info. It is as same as the FKLI currently. The last 5 minutes of trade, all are being done in one price which is determined by supply and demand aka the system will do automatical matching for it. You can see the quantity of the queue, but you don't get the price done, only after the market close then all are being revealed and matched. Just a bit of curious, is the practice in line with other parts of the world, or sound like another "currency control " to me. Is it in line with free market forces or buy low and sell high ? How the investors know what are the pre determined prices of let say 1000 counters during the last 10 minutes ? It is a good way to avoid price manipulation for higher closing price at last minute, which is widely being 'abused' now especially when you see 1 lot being done pruposely to make it close higher. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 22 2008, 11:11 PM |
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Feb 23 2008, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 22 2008, 11:57 PM) Added on February 23, 2008, 12:02 am so, what is the benefit for retail investors? Looks like none... Sometimes a stock for the whole day trade at 10.00 then last minute with 1 lot done (due to no seller queueing) then the 1 lot done at 10.30 which eventually the closing price become 10.30 and index being calculated with 30 cents rise. If one didn't monitor the market one, simply look at newspaper reporting, you will think: oh, great my stock up 30 cents today, in fact, it is just because of 1 lot being done. Or someone didn't monitor the market one, then see the closing price is 10.30, then next day, straight away call the remiser to buy at 10.30, in fact, it falls back to 10.00 or 10.10 next day then person is being 'cheated' by the closing price already. This situation particular pronounce on some low liquuidity stocks even on some blue chips stocks like Petgas, BAT etc whereby there is not many queue between sellers and buyers also. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 23 2008, 09:02 AM |
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Feb 23 2008, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 23 2008, 09:15 AM) Sometimes it has to be fair to everyone because share market is an equal playing field. Yup, minorities shareholders most of the time being 'bullied' one. There is a stock called Pharma then went up about 70sen with only 1 lot done, and then suspended. Did Bursa not aware of the manipulation going on ? Did they send out any query so far ? Someone said the minorities have to buy back UEM world co shares at a premium, is it fair also ? afterall, share price had oledi pushed up by 70sen in first place. The damages from unseen hands and "deemed" acceptable practices are far more damaging. than a last 10 minutes action. Share prices of listed stocks in Bursa oledi starting to come down, even if regional and us markets are doing all right. Sorry, do not intend to flame you, just speaking out for the silent minorities. For long term investment, that's why old timers in the market often/mostly advise people to avoid political linked stocks if can and choose those sincerely looking after the minorities shareholders one. <-- a generous dividend (as much as they could based on profit) can be seen as one of the way looking after the minorities shareholders. This is why one of the reasons I bought Reit as well, as Reit needs to distribute at least 90% of their profit to the shareholders. There are some good stocks that also giving out as much as they could. Regarding the UEM issue, still can't find a logical answer for UEMworld to offer their shareholders to buy at 15% premium. If one is the shareholder of the company, and the company owning the shares, isn't it indirectly one own those shares? shouldn't being giving out porportional to their shareholder? Instead it is now shareholders need to fork out money (some more expensive than market price) to buy those shares rather than being given. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 23 2008, 11:21 AM |
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Feb 25 2008, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 23 2008, 08:29 PM) There is question that need to ask here: Welcome to Malaysia Why there is new call warrant named as CHMOBIL-CA and CHMOBIL-CB? I tot all foreign call warrants ended as 1,2,3... And local call warrants ended with A,B,C.. But now seem the situation is reversed.. My guess is if they use 1,2,3 then it can be until 9 (which will be reaching, now 7 liao) only due to alphabet limitation on the code name of the computer system, code name cannot be more than 7 alphabet, while at back (after abc-xx) can be 2 alphabet only, so C10 become 3 alphabet, so in this case, may be they have to rewrite their software just to accomodate the C10 but with ABC, they at least can use 20+ times, temporarily solve the problem. Just pure guess, I might be wrong. |
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Feb 25 2008, 11:34 AM
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CPO at 3800! Up a whooping 120!
Man, this is shy-rocketing non-stop, won't do good for our daily life --> inflation. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 25 2008, 11:35 AM |
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Feb 25 2008, 04:11 PM
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Feb 25 2008, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(ts1 @ Feb 25 2008, 05:06 PM) Maybulk case is different with Gamuda. Maybulk is directly because of DBI falling.QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 25 2008, 05:10 PM) You have to guest whether FF want to keep on selling ( 30% ) first ! Can't blame them, if MD whom is running the business disposing his stake to just merely 1.+%, then everyone also suspect something behind. Added on February 25, 2008, 5:12 pmIn those days, they kept on bombing like Pearl Harbour. A 1.+% stake might mean his position also in doubt when re-appointing for the MD post. |
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QUOTE(aretla @ Feb 27 2008, 12:25 PM) i tot we should look for good P/E ratio and EPS when choosing shares.. This counter financial result is wobbling here and there. But does show some improvement recently. Got lot of project but whether it will turn the project in profitable $$, then only time will tell.sapcres have -ve EPS wo.. still a good buy? Supposely, it involves O&G, should be very good in this industry lately. But downside is it is highly political linked stock. Added on February 27, 2008, 12:52 pm QUOTE(CalvinCLK @ Feb 27 2008, 12:44 PM) After the heat of HSI-C1, I believe the next target might be HSI-C4, since it's the lowest premium rate among other -C2,-C3. I might consider buying some to keep. Expiry date August 2008, half a year more to go... Safer... Yup, C4 exercise price is lower than C2, C3 at 28,888. Once HSI crosses this level, it is 'in money' already. But market needs to turn into some bull run at least for HSI to reach that level.Added on February 27, 2008, 12:48 pmBOC-C2 in my shopping list also. End of august, even late... Today it rallys dy... I just found out about this warrant yesterday... Anyway, personally don't think the subprime and credit crisis is totally over, especially recently inflation showing some real threat already, oil>USD 100, Gold > USD 950, CPO > 3800. Our money is shrinking fast without notice! This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 27 2008, 12:55 PM |
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Feb 27 2008, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:54 PM) Thank you for sharing the information. Doesn't necessary will go to Holland one, especially for Sapcres, at least it is trading quite resonable cheap level.I ask people not to follow me to Holland, and yet .... Next time I should keep my big mouth shut. Probably I cannot sleep well tonight... |
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Feb 27 2008, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Feb 27 2008, 04:43 PM) Yes, last year, the company still making some losses in the quarterly report.To calculate the EPS and PE on Sapcres, one needs to take into account of the potential warrant dilution (which almost 1/3 of its capital paid out) in order to justify more accurate on EPS and PE side. Added on February 27, 2008, 4:54 pm QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 27 2008, 01:44 PM) Yah, i also think same as well. HSI call warrant is no longer target for punters anymore. HK-fever or CWs frenzy is over since last year end. Many had been burned by the 'fever' so whether future, the CWs still being chased after, don't know.Even HSI up +800 points, current HSI-cw having little movement. Unlike HSI-C1..(miss this counter so much) Better change target to another HK counter. Btw, new HSI-cw (HSI-C5) will be out in next week if not mistaken. But cw profile not yet out. Hope its exercise price much lower than all current HSI counter. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 27 2008, 04:55 PM |
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Feb 28 2008, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 27 2008, 10:29 PM) @cherroy To be 'in money', HSI > exercise price of the HSI-Cx.i remember you said that in order for HSI-C2 to be "in-money" HSI has to be atleast 30,870... today HSI closed at 24,483 ghosh, still has long way to go assuming HSI is hovering between 26,000 & 28,000 in the coming month(s) what would be the right price for HSI-C2? and how do you get to know whether it is "in-money" or not? Only those 'in money' CWs will move according to its target exercise stock/index. That's why HSI-C2 won't move much even though HSI up 700 points, it is still way long to go and might not able to 'in money' until its expiry data unless we saw a streak of bull run that make it potential to cross the exercise level. <-- that's the key of HSI-C2 or Cx movement. People not convince there is bull run in the place so not dare to chase after it. Currently the trend (worldwide) is range bound only, hasn't broken through the upside (based on charting) or yet. Market seems like waiting some economic indicators before moving to either side (up or down). Btw, Sime reported quite disappointing financial result compared to the like other plantation stock like IOI or KLK. CPO has risen so tremendously, still increment of profit doesn't match the CPO price increment. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 28 2008, 09:05 AM |
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Feb 28 2008, 10:52 AM
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Recent financial report especially on big cap GLCs one is not convincing enough, Maybank, MISC, Sime, Petgas which won't do good for the KLCI at near term.
You need strong and sterling performance of financial report to spur some bull run. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 28 2008, 10:52 AM |
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 28 2008, 11:32 AM) From osk website, issue price is set at 21.5cents. Last time I subscribed Google-C1 IPO time, it was 100K lot, I preceive this is standard?I'm not sure how minimum qty that need to buy as i haven't tried buy IPO counter. Need to ask LYN forumers here that had bought IPO counter before. Added on February 28, 2008, 1:52 pm QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 28 2008, 01:45 PM) Don't know can hit or not, you need a market huge sell-down to get this price.This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 28 2008, 01:52 PM |
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 28 2008, 02:00 PM) wah, 100K lot -> that's alot wor..costing millions of ringgit(if IPO price is 11cents) Sorry, sorry, I mean 100K shares, my mistake.or typo? are u mean 100K units/shares? If today Genting announced bad financial result, it can drop to RM6.5 price. Just wait for time to drop.. Btw, tonight will be AIG and Freddie Mae to announce its financial result. Added on February 28, 2008, 2:20 pm QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 28 2008, 02:13 PM) I feel the new Genting boss is a bit aggresive. Borrows lot of moneys to buy up Casinos. Cruise business is never a making busineness for Resort that's why Resort keen to dispose it or already dispose some of the stake, if not mistaken. I heard their UK and cruise businesses are not doing well. Just 2sen opinion. Yup, under the new CEO, Genting is a bit aggressive in term of their business, keep on enquiring overseas casinos especially in UK. He wants Genting to be an international player rather than confine to Malaysia only. That's why previously I said, don't expect huge dividend from it for near term until the Singapore casino has run its operation and starting generate profit to Genting. It needs plenty of cash for to financial it. UK casinos or western countries casinos are not the same as Asian countries one if you have been there before. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 28 2008, 02:35 PM |
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Oppss, for Genting may be can get 6.50 in near future, 6.90 now.
Somebody just sell in one shot 1.5 million shares (1 transaction) at 7.00. |
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