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 (HELP)Teenant don wanna pay rental!, What suppose to do???

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post Apr 17 2009, 10:14 PM

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The worst category of tenants are not those who don't pay.
Landlords' nemesis = defaulting tenants who refuse to quit.

I've had a lawyer who told me in capacity as a friend...to settle the problem without using the law....but kena pandai pandai sdn
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post Apr 18 2009, 02:02 PM

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Report police lah.... Then engage a lawyer to help you sort up your problems. I believe there must be a clause in the agreement to protect the owner rite.

Otherwise use red paint... brows.gif
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post Apr 18 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(sfl @ Feb 20 2008, 09:24 PM)
I have ask a lawyer,he said if u cut the electric n the tenant can't work without electric,if he sue,i gonna bear all his financial loss cos of no electric to use  doh.gif
ask your lawyer back, or better yet, ask another lawyer, it seems that your lawyer get his fact wrong

as an owner of the premise and the electricity registered under your name, you have full rights to foreclosure the account and ask TNB to cut electricity.

make a police report, ask them to leave
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post Apr 19 2009, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(prototype_x0 @ Apr 18 2009, 11:53 PM)
ask your lawyer back, or better yet, ask another lawyer, it seems that your lawyer get his fact wrong

as an owner of the premise and the electricity registered under your name, you have full rights to foreclosure the account and ask TNB to cut electricity.

make a police report, ask them to leave
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I check with Syabas yesterday ... well what they say is , originally they suppost to cut of the water supply if

a) the bill is more then the deposit
b) the bill is not pay for 3 month

However, i told them my bill is more then 1 year din pay and is too much over the deposit how come they din cut it !
They give excuse is too much account to handle thats why got miss out.... vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

And i told them, wah if like that i rugi teruk la...... then they give us advise is check the bill monthly from net or syabas counter, if found out something wrong can call syabas cut the water on the spot even is not exceed the deposit.

Then i ask them , ooo if cut already later wanna pasang balik then kena charge by syabas la.... ? they say yes ... RM50 pemasangan fee.... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

If like that i better buy a lock , lock the outdoor pipe switch which allow water to go in more good.... cheap a lot some more

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post Aug 17 2010, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(propcritic @ Mar 19 2009, 03:53 PM)
3 options (in order of effectiveness):-

1) Hire Gangster;
2) Hire Police;
3) Engage a lawyer.
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i dun think option 1 and 2 is wise decision
option 3 may work if u r rich ppl

why not engage a debt collector agency?
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post Aug 18 2010, 02:30 AM

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Hi, Im wing here , an real estate negotiator.

I just had a similiar case as yours but slightly different.

The tenant should pay deposit before move in.

All the cheque to be paid as deposit and first month rental is rejected.
All belonging still in the unit.
Can't be contact and no reply on email.
It's a singaporean vmad.gif

now they gone for 2 months already and never pay a cent. I just report police and going to see he inspector tomorrow see what advise will they give and I wil keep you guys update.
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post Sep 29 2010, 02:40 PM

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I have the same problem.. Just found out today that apart from not paying my rent, my tenant did not pay the electricity bill for nearly a year.. and it cost up to RM1k++
Sighzz...

What's the best possible way to evict my tenant? The husband has gone overseas to work and only left the wife and kids at home.. Have already given them notice to pay.. and told them to settle it by end of the month else will not be able to renew the tenancy agreement (So happen it expires end of Sept).

Any advice?

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post Sep 29 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(fashion01 @ Sep 29 2010, 02:40 PM)
I have the same problem.. Just found out today that apart from not paying my rent, my tenant did not pay the electricity bill for nearly a year.. and it cost up to RM1k++
Sighzz...

What's the best possible way to evict my tenant? The husband has gone overseas to work and only left the wife and kids at home.. Have already given them notice to pay.. and told them to settle it by end of the month else will not be able to renew the tenancy agreement (So happen it expires end of Sept).

Any advice?
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Hmmm you took too long to rectify the issue. I'd take it as a 'stupid tax' and not renew the tenancy agreement (which is a lot better than eviction).
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post Sep 29 2010, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Sep 29 2010, 02:43 PM)
Hmmm you took too long to rectify the issue. I'd take it as a 'stupid tax' and not renew the tenancy agreement (which is a lot better than eviction).
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My experience with such errant tenants would be asking my lawyer to issue them a letter of demand, if no payment is made within 14 days, then you can sue them.

Normally they chicken out when they get a lawyer letter, haven't had any that still don't pay after getting lawyer letter.

As for utilities, you NEVER put them under your own name when you rent your property out. Putting it under your own name is just asking for trouble.

This post has been edited by northface: Sep 29 2010, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(northface @ Sep 29 2010, 05:57 PM)
My experience with such errant tenants would be asking my lawyer to issue them a letter of demand, if no payment is made within 14 days, then you can sue them.

Normally they chicken out when they get a lawyer letter, haven't had any that still don't pay after getting lawyer letter.

As for utilities, you NEVER put them under your own name when you rent your property out. Putting it under your own name is just asking for trouble.
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But how do the utilities bill not under our name when the property belongs to us?
correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding is the electricity will be cut until all bill amounts are cleared regardless whose name on the bill as TNB will refer to the property itself?

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post Sep 29 2010, 07:33 PM

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Before you rent your place out, you cut the service and as your tenant to apply for utilities themselves.

That's how I look at it, if a tenant has no money to pay rent, they wouldn't have money to pay the utilities either. And if they can't pay their utilities then TNB or Syabas will cut their supply and they wouldn't stay long anyways.

I think TNB now offers a service where you can register your utility for rented property under tenants name. And if he does move out and not pay it would be his responsibility not mine. Something like that, did not ask in detail.

Anyways, I'm talking all about commercial property here. And occasionally I would ask the latest bill from the tenant just to show that he paid. No problems so far, a little more things to do, but better than ending up with a 10k electricity bill when tenant moves.
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:59 PM

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TNB Bills can check online....!!
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post Sep 22 2015, 02:04 PM

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so conclusion is?
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post Oct 8 2015, 04:35 PM

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What if the landlord dont want to give back deposit? I leaved the house without any damage and he said will bank in the deposit. but now after 6 month still nothing. text after text sent and he said that the house still empty. will pay me once he got tenant.
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QUOTE(Rayshah @ Oct 8 2015, 04:35 PM)
What if the landlord dont want to give back deposit? I leaved the house without any damage and he said will bank in the deposit. but now after 6 month still nothing. text after text sent and he said that the house still empty. will pay me once he got tenant.
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looks like your landlord used up your deposit and waiting for another tenant to come in so that he can pay back your deposit. hahaha....

on a more serious note, your landlord is very unscrupulous.

you need to note down the events i.e. telephone calls, verbal promises or test msg etc...

if you have a tenancy agreement, you need to prompt i.e. write to him of the provision that requires him to return your deposit after the tenancy has been terminated. Give him 14 days to respond to your letter, if no news then you can proceed to:-

(a) lodge police report; and
(b) file a complaint with consumer tribunal.

You should arm yourself with all the facts before you go to the police station and consumer tribunal.

https://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php/en/

This post has been edited by aurora97: Oct 8 2015, 05:43 PM
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post Oct 8 2015, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Oct 8 2015, 05:42 PM)
looks like your landlord used up your deposit and waiting for another tenant to come in so that he can pay back your deposit. hahaha....

on a more serious note, your landlord is very unscrupulous.

you need to note down the events i.e. telephone calls, verbal promises or test msg etc...

if you have a tenancy agreement, you need to prompt i.e. write to him of the provision that requires him to return your deposit after the tenancy has been terminated. Give him 14 days to respond to your letter, if no news then you can proceed to:-

(a) lodge police report; and
(b) file a complaint with consumer tribunal.

You should arm yourself with all the facts before you go to the police station and consumer tribunal.

https://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php/en/
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Yeah. Already told that to him that I want to make a police report if he keep me hanging like this, but he just said that "If i dont want to pay also can its my house what you can do?" he is one of the Pakatan rakyat MP and a syariah lawyer. Worst case will just make this viral.
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QUOTE(Rayshah @ Oct 8 2015, 05:46 PM)
Yeah. Already told that to him that I want to make a police report if he keep me hanging like this, but he just said that "If i dont want to pay also can its my house what you can do?" he is one of the Pakatan rakyat MP and a syariah lawyer. Worst case will just make this viral.
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LOL wadafuq?

anyway, do you have a tenancy agreement with the landlord in the first place?
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post Oct 8 2015, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Oct 8 2015, 05:52 PM)
LOL wadafuq?

anyway, do you have a tenancy agreement with the landlord in the first place?
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yup i have all tenancy agreement and monthly payment receipt. all whatsapp conversation
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post Oct 8 2015, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Rayshah @ Oct 8 2015, 06:27 PM)
yup i have all tenancy agreement and monthly payment receipt. all whatsapp conversation
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What does your agreement say about return of deposits?
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post Oct 9 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Oct 8 2015, 09:16 PM)
What does your agreement say about return of deposits?
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Something like this :

All of the deposit will be pay back by the owner once the tenant moved out from the premises with two month notice (which I have already did)
and if there are any damage to the premise, the owner can deduct from the deposit (the house is really neat without a single hole on it)

Just call him and he said that if i want my deposit back fast just find a tenant and take the deposit from them.


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