QUOTE(moomoos @ Sep 15 2009, 12:50 AM)
kam kok.. Yamaha AVR Discussion Thread
Yamaha AVR Discussion Thread
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Sep 15 2009, 12:54 AM
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Sep 15 2009, 12:56 AM
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Sep 15 2009, 12:59 AM
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Sep 16 2009, 08:18 AM
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Any users of RX-V665 mind to share their reviews here?
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Sep 16 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 15 2009, 12:31 AM) Yes, indeed. The modern sub performs a lot better. So, I bet the SVS did further change your view eh? Then again, I find that a lot of ppl do not do proper sub calibration, making it too loud. This will muddle the rest of the speakers (coloration). It is very apparent when some guys showing off his gears with Hotel California or bass heavy movies. THOOOMMMPPPP.. tak... BOOOMMM..... BOOOMM... (Hotel California) If I listen to music, I'll press 'Pure Direct' on my Yammy 1800. Just my good old front spkrs to do the job. It still performs decently though |
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Sep 16 2009, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 16 2009, 09:32 AM) Yes, indeed. The modern sub performs a lot better. So, I bet the SVS did further change your view eh? yeah now someone is talking about Pure Direct Mode Then again, I find that a lot of ppl do not do proper sub calibration, making it too loud. This will muddle the rest of the speakers (coloration). It is very apparent when some guys showing off his gears with Hotel California or bass heavy movies. THOOOMMMPPPP.. tak... BOOOMMM..... BOOOMM... (Hotel California) If I listen to music, I'll press 'Pure Direct' on my Yammy 1800. Just my good old front spkrs to do the job. It still performs decently though i calibrated the crossover at 85-90hz as my satellites are from 80hz to 25khz then i increase the level gradually until i hear a bit of boom, go back to sweet spot, listen recalibrate the level until the midbass sounds tight but not over powering, balance with overall percussion and vocals not muffed is that the correct to calibrate, bro htkaki. thanks |
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Sep 16 2009, 11:20 PM
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No, you need SPL meter to do that as your ears can pinpoint the level accurately.
In 'Pure Direct', only the front spkrs are being driven. |
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Sep 16 2009, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 16 2009, 11:20 PM) No, you need SPL meter to do that as your ears can pinpoint the level accurately. i did stress on Pure Direct mode but no one give a damn... haha as no one is interested In 'Pure Direct', only the front spkrs are being driven. yammy amps deactivated the LFE on pure Direct whereas Denon has the option to turn on LFE on Pure Direct that was what i have been debating for previously, as i am using satellites on Pure Direct mode ( NO BASS) haha |
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Sep 16 2009, 11:30 PM
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Satelites have many limitations. So, it is kind of hard to expect it to performs on par with standmount spkrs. To be honest, I haven't come across any sats that sound decent enough for music. Sounds harsh but that's the reality.
Bro, upgraditis path is the only way to enjoy better music via Pure Direct. |
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Sep 16 2009, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 16 2009, 11:30 PM) Satelites have many limitations. So, it is kind of hard to expect it to performs on par with standmount spkrs. To be honest, I haven't come across any sats that sound decent enough for music. Sounds harsh but that's the reality. Does Klipsch B-3 system considered as satelites? Bro, upgraditis path is the only way to enjoy better music via Pure Direct. |
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Sep 16 2009, 11:50 PM
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No, it isn't. That's standmount spkr
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Sep 17 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 16 2009, 11:30 PM) Satelites have many limitations. So, it is kind of hard to expect it to performs on par with standmount spkrs. To be honest, I haven't come across any sats that sound decent enough for music. Sounds harsh but that's the reality. Pure Direct modes are the best of both worlds, for people who wants to give up (not completely) on Hi-Fi for SimplicityBro, upgraditis path is the only way to enjoy better music via Pure Direct. so i guess can't expect AVR Pure Direct modes to sound that fantastic even on a 6k floorstand bro, have you tried the audica's tower, i dont think it sounded harsh ( my individual preference again la of course ) Added on September 17, 2009, 12:59 am QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 16 2009, 09:32 AM) Yes, indeed. The modern sub performs a lot better. So, I bet the SVS did further change your view eh? Yes...agreed !!!If I listen to music, I'll press 'Pure Direct' on my Yammy 1800. Just my good old front spkrs to do the job. It still performs decently though designs, circuits and drivers getting better & better This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 17 2009, 01:19 AM |
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Sep 18 2009, 10:21 PM
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SO WHAT'S THE REAL PRICE?
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Sep 18 2009, 10:54 PM
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Sep 18 2009, 11:03 PM
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Sep 18 2009, 11:17 PM
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Sep 19 2009, 09:52 AM
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how come bro htkaki letting go of his rxv1800?
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Sep 19 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 15 2009, 12:27 AM) we use sub when watching movies for the LFE track, not buy sub primarily to listen to music in a stereo system la.. so why talking about Hifi sound? That's true.But sometimes I feel that movie's LFE are synthesized sounds and it's up to the sound engineer to define it. In terms of natural bass, this is where hi-fi comes in like if you have recordings of the kodo drums or jazz tracks with nice double bass action or pipe organ music. In fact one of the good tracks to demo dynamic bass is a fireworks recording on the Danley website, see here: http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/technical%20downloads.html With natural bass, you have a chance to compare the real thing to your system capabilities. Like if you've attended a live fireworks display you know how the explosions feel and sound like. Then play the Danley recording, if your system can give approximately the same experience then you know your system is really good! Another example mentioned by moomoos already is the lion dance drums. If there was a good recording of this it would be a good test of the subwoofer's speed and attack. Added on September 19, 2009, 11:11 am QUOTE(moomoos @ Sep 16 2009, 11:25 PM) i did stress on Pure Direct mode but no one give a damn... haha as no one is interested For Pure Direct / Pure Audio, sometimes the AVR can use the LFE channel if you choose the 5.1 audio track (this will depend on your AVR brand). Like when I listen to Michael Buble BD, if I choose the 5.1 audio and use Pure Audio I will get some LFE (but the same as if I turn off Pure Audio).yammy amps deactivated the LFE on pure Direct whereas Denon has the option to turn on LFE on Pure Direct that was what i have been debating for previously, as i am using satellites on Pure Direct mode ( NO BASS) haha This post has been edited by jchong: Sep 19 2009, 11:11 AM |
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