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LeechFever
post Oct 29 2008, 07:25 PM

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Hmm always wanted to know how to use photoshop. So far only familiar with MS paint using the airbrush to create my avatar.

Anyone know of any good link to a photoshop tutorial? Also what version should I use?
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post Oct 31 2008, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 31 2008, 07:21 AM)
that's my shortcoming lol. i'm trained as an architect. the difference between a good and a not so good architect is the ability to achieve certain standard within a limited time. we believe that a not so good architect CAN achieve the exact same standard as the good architect, they just take longer biggrin.gif.

artists, on the other hand, strives to achieve perfection no matter how long it takes. it's been this way since hundreds of years ago. and amazingly, artists can concentrate in a particular job for a long duration of time. sometimes years.
so fundamentally, architects are sprinters while artists are endurance runners biggrin.gif.
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post Nov 1 2008, 03:49 PM

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Check out my updated signature! Draw and made it myself with paint.net. What do you think? Took me an hour for the left pic and two hours for the right.

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post Nov 2 2008, 07:01 AM

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Ummm? I thought this is art attack. Not Architect vs Artist war.
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post Nov 2 2008, 08:06 AM

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Before I write my view I just want to mention I haven't read all the thread much so correct me if I'm wrong. This is MY opinion.

Look..... architect and artist can be a form of profession. So can they be a form of personal interest. If you choose to make them a profession, then they can be time-based (depending if the client wants fast result or quality) and vice versa.

Like I mention before (probably in another thread, I can't remember) art is very subjective. A pile a junk can also be an art depending on people's perception on it. Architect mostly involve designing "stuff" even a futuristic garbage truck for all I care. Architect may combine art into their design or they choose design for practicality sake like aerodynamic wise.

Also there are things call bad and good architect/artist. A bad one only design for the sake of convenience and money. A good one takes account of artistic nature of the design (of course takes account of convenience and money too but main priority is art and practicality). What does this mean? It means depending on which categories you are in, you may have your own idea of how it should be define.

My definition: Architect is one that uses their engineering knowledge (else we may a have possible 'london bridge is falling down' scenario by now) to design new "stuffs" be it mechanical, structural or etc which has a purpose in society (building to live in, car to travel with). They can choose to combine artwork into their work depending IF the client/boss he/she work for wants it. Artist do not need engineering knowledge. They can form their masterpiece out of anything. They can defy logic if they want to. Remember also "people perception" into the equation. You may think it's garbage but I think it's art.

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post Nov 2 2008, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 2 2008, 08:20 AM)
i appreciate ur opinion, but that wasnt what the argument was about. well, atleast that part of the argument have been sorted out.

i'm just standing on my statements that architects subscribe to a specific mindset, which animous conveniently called "generalizing". i understand his opinion, assuming he's not familiar with the design world. so i elaborated my points further to illustrate that being an architect is not just graduating with an architectural degree. design is a mindset. it's an attitude wink.gif.
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Sorry if I misintepret. Like I said, I'm not a patient reader thus I did not read all the previous thread.

But regarding being architect, well...., probably you should put in the world "profession" in front of "architect" to clear up the "architect is not just graduating with an architectural degree". For me, I will only acknowledge those with a degree to be a 'true' architect. Hmmm still confuse? lets look at the some of the google definitions:

# someone who creates plans to be used in making something (such as buildings)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# An architect is a person who is involved in the planning, design, and oversight of a building's construction. The word "architect" (Latin: architectus) derives from the Greek arkhitekton (arkhi, chief + tekton, builder") . ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect

# A professional who designs buildings or other structures, or who prepares plans and superintends construction; A person who plans, devises or contrives the achievement of a desired result; To design, plan, or orchestrate
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/architect

# A designation reserved, usually by law, for a person or organization professionally qualified and duly licensed to perform architectural services.
www.aiapvc.org/glossary.htm

# A person who normally functions as a creator, coordinator, author of the drawings and specifications and the general administrator of construction.
www.officefinder.com/glossary.html

# One who has completed a course of study in building and design, and is licensed by the state as an architect. One who draws up plans.
www.dadsconstruction.com/orange-county-remodeling-terms.html


bla bla and so many other definition. As you can see the word "architect" contains a lot meanings. It's like the word "garbage", a worthless person can be a "garbage" but you say it can only be used on physical object like a used pair of socks. Give it a rest. He/she may have see it in another perspective. Let's get back to the topic. Else create a new thread.

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post Nov 4 2008, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 4 2008, 01:03 AM)
a very quick concept art of mine
1 hour
simple doodling
black version of ironman

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Sweet. Shadow Artist (I call it for those who do simple black and white art). Can refine further? Looks cool.
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post Nov 4 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(animous @ Nov 4 2008, 10:44 PM)
I agree with Leechfever.

This is a refined version of my latest artwork after I did not satisfied with the clouds. still in progress, Im currently waiting for an AW forumer friend regarding smoke dust effect, hopefully to assist the lack of movement sense on the character.
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Isn't that a scene from Tsubasa Chronicle - Tokyo Revelation. .....Cool. Liked that scene.
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post Nov 4 2008, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 4 2008, 10:56 PM)
ok done
2-3 hours
painter ix
abit rushy towards the end heh
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Walau eh. I did mention refine but not to that extend. Fabulous. Still need a weeny bit tweaking. Oh Btw, what program you use to create this? I only have paint.net so far so I can't really do much.

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post Nov 4 2008, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(animous @ Nov 4 2008, 10:44 PM)
I agree with Leechfever.

This is a refined version of my latest artwork after I did not satisfied with the clouds. still in progress, Im currently waiting for an AW forumer friend regarding smoke dust effect, hopefully to assist the lack of movement sense on the character.
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Something like this? I just use white paintbrush for 15 minutes so lay down on the critizism if there is any. Oh btw to make it more "dynamic" looking, the guy on the right should have his hair like a blast of wind just hit on his face.


Added on November 4, 2008, 11:30 pm
QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 4 2008, 11:14 PM)
ahh yes i believe abit clean up
i'm using corel painter ix wink.gif
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Cool. Can't wait for the finish product.

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post Nov 4 2008, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 4 2008, 11:37 PM)
well the color of the smokedust really depends on what environment your painting is
in animous painting
somewhat like desert and a orange/brown ambience
the smoke should have almost the same color with it
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True. I was thinking of using a little bit of brown, black and yellow. But I got lazy in the end. Not my forte. Anyway I rather see the finish product from the original painter him/herself.

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post Nov 5 2008, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 4 2008, 11:43 PM)
heh make sure you credit animous wink.gif
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Lol of course.

Btw just a bit comment. The ironman hand is a bit ...er feels like no power. Try to cramp his hand like he's take a big dump in the toilet.

Still love your work. thumbup.gif

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post Nov 6 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 5 2008, 12:08 AM)
heh yeah,when it comes to hands i kinda sucked at it
lol
thanks for the critics biggrin.gif


Added on November 6, 2008, 2:31 am

FIXED
pose ,fingers and add more intensity to the lightning
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Sweet! Keep it up!

Here are some of my old works to share. Not much. Welcome any criticism. In case anyone ask, this are all done with MS paint.
user posted imageuser posted image

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post Nov 7 2008, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(animous @ Nov 7 2008, 12:24 AM)
Sorry leechfever to dissapoint you.. I didnt manage to do the smoke effect propely so I end up safe with only zoom blur instead on the ground. Some tweak here and there after CnC at Animewallpaper forum and below is the end result.  unsure.gif
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Hmmm not much of a difference from previous one. I suggest you keep working on the smoke effect though, up to you. Cause the scene is in a desert. If you swing your sword wouldn't there be a sand dust following the path? Imagine in motion if the guy swing his sword and half way through, what would the sand smoke be at? Capture that image and translate it into your art. Still great work btw.
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post Nov 7 2008, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 7 2008, 05:15 PM)
nope
to make it simplify
he just have to make little smoke for the impact
cause if he's swinging the sword he'd be dead
i assume it's a locked up situation
never really watch anime sweat.gif
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Its more of like a full swing with the killing intent. Just as they are about to strike each other necks, both of them stopped at the last moment knowing that it could end in a stalemate. Also, they stare at each other for a mere seconds (based on the slow motion capture animation) before they retreat to original positions. Meaning there should still be some "dirt" flying around. This one is like, hey you move first..and the other is like..no you go first...kind of lockup scenario.

Anyway, it's up to the artist to decide but this is just my opinion as the "viewer". Again I quote "it's up to you". I'm not forcing or trying to be a smartass. I apologize if it sound.......like what you think it sound.

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post Nov 7 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(animous @ Nov 7 2008, 10:03 PM)
somehow i decided to do it anyway.. so here it is.. rclxub.gif
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Hmmm Better.
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post Nov 7 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(animous @ Nov 7 2008, 10:38 PM)
okeh! its time for me to study then~ aah not read anything yet 14 hours left to read..
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SPM?
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post Nov 9 2008, 08:35 PM

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Walau eh. Wanted to get one of those pen/tablet so that I could manually draw em instead of mouse all the time. U guys know what brand to buy? I mean not those overly priced thing but at least reasonable and not China made item.
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post Nov 9 2008, 08:38 PM

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I am currently working on the following attached. Not finish yet btw. Need some criticism before I continue. Like the body proportion not right or I should use different colour for the hair or etc.

Note:
This is just very rough sketch I did (coincidentally) so the colours are not up to standard...yet and so are the black linings but that I will fix later.

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post Nov 10 2008, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(aizen @ Nov 10 2008, 12:50 AM)
ur drawing skill is one of the best here.. seriously, all the proportions, lining, etc are really good. if u use a tablet with an appropriate drawing software, the result will be  shocking.gif ..
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lol thanks for the comment. I used to draw and scan but since I moved, I don't have a space for scanner anymore let along an expensive tablet. So I just make do with what I have. Well, at least that gets me motivated.


Added on November 10, 2008, 8:54 am
QUOTE(Benny-T @ Nov 9 2008, 10:45 PM)
you can always get a bamboo fun to start with
well,it's the best u can get out there
i'm not promoting my own sales but
it's quite true tongue.gif
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Bamboo fun eh? Will consider.

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