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Discussion Something is wrong with Malaysian's football, According to FIFA's Jean-Michel Benezet

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post Feb 6 2008, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(firedauz @ Feb 5 2008, 05:21 PM)
The formula is ready! It's a 3-in-1 solution! rclxms.gif whistling.gif

Source --> http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...an&pg=su_01.htm

In summary, the solutions:

- National squad to be train at Ajax Amsterdam
- Iam Rush (ex-Liverpool) is to train the attacking squad for 3 days
- National coach, B. Sathianathan, gets 2 weeks seminar at Old Trafford, Manchester
- FAM Vice President, Khairy Jamaluddin, promoted to national coach manager

Good idea or bad idea?
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Time will tell, say the optimists. wink.gif

Only thing almost certain is that lots of ppl stand to benefit from these "rombongan"... brows.gif

- Ajax welcomes the $$$ injection, aren't they having financial trouble lately?
- Rush will extend his stay to have some fun and boom-boom in M'sia/Sing/Thailand
- National coach, together with entourage of non-relevant personnel, will have a grand time in Manchester e.g. stay in plush suite, spitroast party with skanks from Leeds, etc.
- Khairy.... what else do we need to say?


What's this with "3-in-1" solution... this ain't some shampoo lah... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by ming2020: Feb 6 2008, 08:07 AM
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post Feb 6 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(alister88 @ Feb 6 2008, 01:24 AM)
national squad @ Ajax = Makan Angin only, go there see big stars to play..

Ian Rush training = Ian Rush will muntah Darah..

B.Sathianathan @ OT = still the same la, he wan do changes but FAM duwan do also no result will come out.

Khairy as National Coach = Habis la Malaysia team..

as conclusion = Tiger Never change the stripes. Malaysia will nvr change their attitudes. for a better start, change the whole management. no polictics, just football...kick out all the politicians and put in profesionals..

*Msia Players are just too proud cos they think they are pro when they are so called football player. I bet some other people outside ther who is not a profesional player can play better than them. Dapat masuk padang main utk negara dah kembang...*
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Exactly, it's not exactly the best kept secret. Kick the fecking cash hungry politicians out of the game! How nice was it to watch local football during our semi-pro days? Back then we could attract English Division 1 stars like Tony Cottee, David Roecastle and Chris Kiwomya. At one point, Pahang was even intending to bid for Liverpool centreback Glen Hysen AND Arsenal forward Ian Wright, during his prime!!! Now ah? Mouyvi Trusjihoffnios from the Laotian 10th Division or Cheong Ah Pek from Taiwan wont want to come! Perhaps Pei Yan *** from Hong Kong may be interested!

Malaysian players??? Same wherever you look so long as they are trained domestically. One cannot be blamed for thinking someone like Akmal Rizal would have learnt from his stint abroad and kept himself in shape. Now he looks like a fecking potato! Our players are pampered cunts. Look at our badminton scene and what Rexy Mainaky said after he announced his resignation. Malaysians simply don't have the discipline or mental toughness to succeed at the highest level. You have to take the kampung boy out of his kampung is you want to see progress. Notice that most of our successful athletes either train abroad or have foreign trainers.
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Even Selangor wanted to buy Ian Rush back then! I kinda agree on the Rushie coaching part. Why 3 days? Why not 3 years? I don't think the players will learn anything so valuable in just 3 days and if they do they'll probably forgotten everything the week after.

Re: OT, I believe Santhianathan will receive a great exposure on coaching. The problem is like you said Duke, to implement it back in our home country. He'll work just fine with the likes of Doncaster Rovers or Bristol City but not in M'sia. Our training facilities are not up to the standard and the most important thing now is to revamp the youth development. Football academies for kids & under 18's are much more needed as well as the qualified coaches, physios, dieticians, etc etc. We knew that our young school kids are superb in the region but what happened when they grow up? Nothing extraordinary. If we rely on their adrenaline rush to play football we can't go far. There's no long term player development program, there's simply not enough money spend on that key area.

I say if they do want to improve things, firstly get more money and set up the facilities nicely, in terms of quality, then get qualified coaches, physios, counsellors et al working with the players and kids and invite top coaches in Europe/South American to come over and give seminars and work together with other top clubs in the world. Voila! Problems solved and we'll be in the top 100 in no time. Easy to say but possible.

And yeah, of course there'll be 'unofficial' rombongan going to Manchester with Santhianathan. Who can resist the temptations shopping in the UK eh, and the chance visiting OT? Another case of FAM money 'well' spent.

P/S: Why don't they hire/loan Mourinho for a couple of months? He's outta job at the mo and surely he'll have a hell lot of experience to teach us something.
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QUOTE(easypeasy @ Feb 6 2008, 12:13 PM)
P/S: Why don't they hire/loan Mourinho for a couple of months? He's outta job at the mo and surely he'll have a hell lot of experience to teach us something.

That's just brutal laugh.gif The Special One training our soft players! rclxm9.gif
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only training 3 day with Ian Rush and then Malaysian striker can be a good striker doh.gif
this is really stupid joke,how much money our FAM pay to Rush,another wasting money program
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if they really want to improve, they should've gone to others like Liverpool, West ham, Villa or Arsenal... and look at the youth development there. MU youth? who? Beckham was their last domestic product. Their entire team is made from players who was bought by SAF, and straight into 1st team.

I believe arsenal got the best youth development system in UK for the past 10 years or so... since AW tookover. BUT, overall... i think Villa and Hammers got the best facility and youth development for ENGLISH players.

i hate KJ... why the fark he got position in FAM anyway? suddenly national team manager??? because of MYTeam??? argghhh...

3 days stint to coach strikers? ahahaha more like holiday la.. waste money only...

get the politician out!!!! royalty toooooooooooooooooo!!!!
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 6 2008, 01:55 PM)
if they really want to improve, they should've gone to others like Liverpool, West ham, Villa or Arsenal... and look at the youth development there. MU youth? who? Beckham was their last domestic product. Their entire team is made from players who was bought by SAF, and straight into 1st team.

I believe arsenal got the best youth development system in UK for the past 10 years or so... since AW tookover. BUT, overall... i think Villa and Hammers got the best facility and youth development for ENGLISH players.

i hate KJ... why the fark he got position in FAM anyway? suddenly national team manager??? because of MYTeam??? argghhh...

3 days stint to coach strikers? ahahaha more like holiday la.. waste money only...

get the politician out!!!! royalty toooooooooooooooooo!!!!
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FAM also can think about Ajax,Barca and Munich too,since Barca doing some charity development with UNICEF,i think our country should take this chance,for me Barca already prove their youth program is one of the best in Europe(according to current perfomance of Cesc and Messi)
we can use West Ham and Everton system but i think our player not too comfotable with English Football style(i mean long ball tactic)

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I cant believe.... Khairy, a politician.... becomes a football coach... doh.gif

I seriously doubt he can lead the team better than alan harris..
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post Feb 6 2008, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 6 2008, 01:55 PM)
if they really want to improve, they should've gone to others like Liverpool, West ham, Villa or Arsenal... and look at the youth development there. MU youth? who? Beckham was their last domestic product. Their entire team is made from players who was bought by SAF, and straight into 1st team.

I believe arsenal got the best youth development system in UK for the past 10 years or so... since AW tookover. BUT, overall... i think Villa and Hammers got the best facility and youth development for ENGLISH players.

i hate KJ... why the fark he got position in FAM anyway? suddenly national team manager??? because of MYTeam??? argghhh...

3 days stint to coach strikers? ahahaha more like holiday la.. waste money only...

get the politician out!!!! royalty toooooooooooooooooo!!!!
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off topic

most arsenal youth forced to leave arsenal due to wenger preferance to foreigner ...

upson, bentley, pennant ...


Added on February 6, 2008, 8:24 pm
QUOTE(faris21 @ Feb 6 2008, 01:48 PM)
only training 3 day with Ian Rush and then Malaysian striker can be a good striker doh.gif
this is really stupid joke,how much money our FAM pay to Rush,another wasting money program
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ya, same as if japan to train with man united/arsenal, they gonna win the world cup 2010 no doubt ...

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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 6 2008, 08:24 PM)
off topic

most arsenal youth forced to leave arsenal due to wenger preferance to foreigner ...

upson, bentley, pennant ...
they weren't patience enough and kept whining about 1st team appearance. That's why they left. It's not due to AW preferences. If u work hard, you'll get ur chance. Look at Flamini this season... not only that, look at Senderos rite now. given the chance Toure went to ACN, he took the opportunity and seized the moment.

Walcott has been very patience n i firmly believe AW will give him his chances.

Forced to leave? no way....
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If we do send our players over for stints, I suggest avoiding the bigger more glamorous clubs and choosing instead feeder clubs like Crewe who have a reputation for developing young players, who are later snapped up by Premiership clubs.
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i have my opinion here..i think there is a mentality of malaysian parents who don't want their bright/talented kids to be a footballer. they always see them to be a doctor, engineer, lawyer..football needs brain too..if all bright kids are prevented to explore or nuture their skills from the beginning due to their parents, we are left only with not so bright/talented footballer then..seriously..hoho..i have lots of friend who had been call up to the state level but snub it to focus on pursuing their parents wish..lol
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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 5 2008, 05:17 PM)
Malaysia call on Rush to solve striking woes
it means we got got midfielder and defenders, only the strikers poor quality ... hence we struggle ...
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Khairy know nuts about football
call him to stick with his daddy in law more
40 years ago Malaysia can win Korea
but now Korea can win Malaysia with youth team, sarcastic isn't it?
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dunno what to say about kj in national team now..just wait and see then..
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kj, surely wants reputation to become malaysia future pm, hahaha laugh.gif
tunku abdul rahman pun presiden fam dulu, kan?
he built stadium merdeka (one of the finest in asia that time tau!)

i think this is another rubbish resolution of 3-in-1 solution..
except sathianathan, i don't see the rest will be really fruitful.

where's titus? i thought he should have been playing for national team right now... he was a wonderkid when he was 14, wasn't he?
haha, kena hantar oversea pun still xbleh perform...
better balik malaysia la main untuk team negeri


Added on February 6, 2008, 11:55 pm
QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 4 2008, 11:58 AM)
as long as the mentality of malaysian players dun change, we wont improve ...

player A :" i get RM3k a month from club football, wtf i need give a damn to national squad that could injure myself and ruin my club career !!!! "
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do you think it's rm3k?
player like khaironnisam get around 15k per month you know???

bambang was getting like 25k per month while playing for selangor back in 2005..
and a free house to stay, and free car to ride...

if u in their shoes i bet u also don't mind to play with national team as long as u get that amount of money every month...


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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Feb 6 2008, 06:27 PM)
I cant believe.... Khairy, a politician.... becomes a football coach... doh.gif

I seriously doubt he can lead the team better than alan harris..
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screw him, i dont like him.IMHO, he is more talkative and manipulative a bit.
In construction arena, he took most of the main contracts and become one of the richest man in Malaysia. hmm.gif

IF HE EVER COME INTO MALAYSIAN FOOTBALL, I WILL NEVER EVER WATCH IT. vmad.gif
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it sucks to see how malaysian football has become nowadays..
the quality never improves. the players always the same.. the coach is changing like every year.. now KJ is in the Manager of national football team, what more to say.. Let forget the malaysia national team, better watch europe fantastic football..
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On the radio recently, you could hear an ad about how Malaysian's don't support our local league anymore and instead embrace foreign clubs. I seriously think they should have a good hard look at themselves before ridiculing us for this. Our national football league is shameful what with all the politics and corruption. How can one support a corrupt league? You can bring the donkey to the well, but you cannot for the donkey to drink from it. Perhaps if the FAM clean up their act and revert to the days of the old semi-pro league, will fans flock back into the stadiums.
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The thing is our football is so crap doh.gif than they put KJ for the president...crap again....
malaysian football = gone case sad.gif
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they should do something so that our local football has better quality..
why people dont support our local football? because the management suck!!
everyday i hate our local football more..grrr

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