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Art & Design So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 2, A guide to becoming an Architect.

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post Apr 18 2008, 08:42 PM

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when you're working as an architect, do you think architect is more stressful compared to engineer, doctor or accountant?

i don't mind working with starting pay such as rm2k. as long the working condition is comfortable and not so much pressure (that will eventually wearing me out slowly).

your working day seem interesting to me. i hope if i become architect, i'll get the same boss as you did. no pressure. as long as i finish my job and do it right then it's ok. and some appreciation will be nice.

do you mean that there aren't many hot chicks going into architecture field? haha. some hot chick during working will be ok. when studying, it'll be a big no no. afraid will get distracted.


heres some article regarding zaini.

http://www.ytlcommunity.com/commnews/shown...asp?newsid=8688

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post Apr 18 2008, 09:37 PM

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WOW!. i never thought that architect is very hot.

yup. one thing that make architect look hot. when they are working on their design. the concentration of getting the job done(for example designing) make women melts.

haha. by being an architect will make me achieve my dream. to be the hottest bachelor. haha. juz kidding.


Added on April 18, 2008, 11:06 pmbtw. when i have obtain PAM part 2, can i sit for RIBA exam in order to practice oversea?

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post Apr 19 2008, 05:16 PM

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I would like to ask something. It have been a long time since i first post in this thread. So, i would like to ask something really2 important.

I'll have to choose 2 routes after this. matric then engineering. or politeknik then degree architecture.

Can I really go into architecture field? do i actually have interest in it? i'll provide something regarding myself.

About me:

I'm 18.

currently just received my spm result.

I've passion towards art. although i'm not a very good drawer(probably same level as grade2 student). i've interest in art. i always imagine myself being a good drawer like comic drawer. and i like to see art & painting. During in high school. i always adore my friends who can draw good cartoon and produce some artwork that make people amazed. sometime i become jealous towards them because i always want to be a good drawer like them but i just cant because i can't draw/sketch well

I've also have passion towards engineering and science. i love to see thing move. to see how thing work. i always have ideas for making something like environmental friendly and powerful car engine. my father and my family always wanted me to go into engineering fields.

If i choose architecture, will i be able to put both of my passion into a piece of work? One of my idol is Leonardo da Vinci. he is both architect, artist, and engineer. for example. I'm impressed with lamborghini car engine. it have both power and beauty. If i choose architecture, will i be able to make the same thing like lamborghini engine only that I'll apply it to building. or the Beijing National Stadium which have nickname bird nest and KLIA international airport and Islamic architecture like "Masjid Cordova".

One thing that i've always wanted in architecture is the ability of drawing and arts that can be applied when i'm working. I always wanted to do something that is like life-long learning while working. meaning that, while working, i'll also learn a new thing.

I dont like to work under pressure. As long i can get it done and make it right and the client happy. It's ok with me. People also said that money doesn't matter when it come to working as long you have interest in it. But for me, money do matter. because after long time of studying i want to at least impress my parents with my job before they leave me. i want to make them proud of their son. I'm interested to architecture because i can go outdoor for my work. same applies to engineering where i can get to look how machine work.

Do you guys think i can be a good architect?

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post Apr 20 2008, 12:41 AM

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forget about my last question. already made up my mind. actually the prob is mine to be solved by myself.

i'll go for architecture diploma if i got politeknik. huhu. don't want to think any longer. and hope i make the right choice.

if got matric then i'll go for engineering since I will not be able to stand a chance to enter architecture during interview process. cannot afford IPTS.

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post Apr 20 2008, 02:40 AM

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I'm thinking of going into architecture for my study then i'll go for naval architecture for my practise. Since both have arts and engineering applied. i think i'll suit it.

just my 2 cents. 12may is the determining factor. either i go for engineering or architecture.

12 may= daftar matric.
12 may= result politeknik kluar.

huhu. why do they have to be at the same time.

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post Apr 20 2008, 09:46 AM

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I've been reading around for architecture. there are a lot people complaining about assignment to be done. But i don't mind to do many assignment as long I can make it right.

Normally, for diploma students, what assignment do they usually have in the first year or first sem? those who already have experience studying architecture or right now studying architecture are encouraged to reply. thanks in advance. I studied "lukisan kejuruteraan" subject during my spm years. will it be applied in architecture?


@azarimy. Is it true that sometime lecturer from university come to politeknik to give lectures?
sorry for asking to much question.

who earn more? naval architect or building architect? from what i know, if normal architect pursue naval architecture field, he'll have some problem for his part 3.

edited: do construction like SMART tunnel & projects Dam requires architect or it just the engineer to design it?

added: hey. i found this link. haha. it's like the sims do try their design studio.

Architect Studio 3D

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post Apr 21 2008, 03:00 PM

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After a lot of thinking. I finally get it.

Actually, how much we earn as starting don't matter much. fo me, what matter the most is the job opportunities. everyone is pursuing engineering. from my survey which i do by asking around. most of them don't want to go into architecture because of long time taken to get their degree. Architect need at least 6 to 7 years to be part 2 architect. almost the same like doctors or maybe even longer than doctor.

For architecture, an architect value increase over time because more experienced architect have more knowledge which lead to more new idea. they're like antique's. the older they are, the higher their value.

@azarimy, do you mind telling what need to be prepared for pursuing architecture using matriculation route. my mom wants me to go into matric. so, i don't want to dissapoint her. i need to know what portfolio i need to prepare in order to continue my degree in prestigious school like UTM.

so far, from your previous post, i need to get 3.5 in my matriculation, and portfolio. i need some info regarding the portfolio.

if i enter my degree from my matriculation, i need to start my degree from 1st year am i right?

normally, UTM accept how many student from matriculation to enter their architecture degree course? and normally, how many matriculation grads applied for architecture in UTM?

@azarimy, after u finish ur phd, you're going to teach diploma student or degree student?

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post Apr 21 2008, 06:14 PM

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Why do UTM reduced student intake?

is it because to maintain the quality and privileges or because they don't have much lecturer?
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post Apr 21 2008, 07:52 PM

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owh2. sorry. i'd forgot about the last sentences in your previous post.

so, UTM diploma student will be entering straight 3rd year degree.

while poli and other diploma will be entering the 2nd year.

matric, stpm will be entering 1st year. i see...

so. i finally get it.

UTM diploma student take 6 years to complete degree.
Poli and other diploma take min 7 years.
matric take 6 years.
stpm take 7 years.

i see. my father was ok with me going into poli. although he always wanted me to be engineer. just that, my mom don't like it. because to her, poli have no class. die ckp saya buat malu keluarga je kalo pegi poli. many of my teacher and friends saying that it'll be stupid for me to reject matric and go to poli. kawan2 mak pun sama. sumer duk suruh mak jgn bg saya pegi poli. biasak r org pompuan. potpetpotpet. ni x baik, tu x baik. nnt bile dh loaded suruh gak minang anak die. haha. pdulikkan ape yg sy melalut. because, my brother is doing his medic in egypt under MARA. she also think that architecture is even lower ranked than engineering. hard to convince her. If possible, i want to enter architecture from matric because it'll save me 1 year. but, even if i get into architecture from matriculation, with no basic in art, i afraid that i might have a very hard time in degree.

but, right now, until i can convince my mother. i'll be pursuing architecture using matriculation route. right now, i afraid that i'll not able to catch-up matriculation syllabus.

sbenarnye takut gak nk tolak prmintaan mak. bukan pe. takut nnt kalo bwat perkara x diredhai mak nnt x dpt keberkatan. tu r. mne tau, sbb mak x suke saya bwat architecture, nnt tetiba saya xdpt bawak pelajaran.

@azarimy. is there any possibilities for poli student who perform very well in their diploma to skip into 3rd year instead of entering it in 2nd year?

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post Apr 22 2008, 12:03 AM

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haha. you just pass your stpm am i right? congratulation.

okok. back to the topic.
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(myesarah @ Apr 22 2008, 12:27 PM)
hi, azarimy

thanx for ur response. well, i'm not so sure whether UiTM accepts students from IIUM foundation center, but recently i've heard that some students from here are accepted to UTM in architecture. (or is it UiTM? i can't really remember if it's UTM or UiTM. hehe..)

and i suppose, other unis might as well do the same don't they? do correct me if i'm wrong, though.

u mentioned in your response that i can still apply for UiTM's diploma program. so, i'm wondering whether i should apply online or by post? because unlike any other last year's SPM candidates, i took SPM in 2006. so, can i still apply for their diploma program then?

will the process be the same as applying for the UPU just like i did last 2 years?

and, can i still apply for UiTM's 2nd intake when i didn't apply for the 1st one?

do u know what's the requirement for UiTM's ID diploma or degree program?
p/s : i'm sorry for asking too many questions.. happy.gif  i'm just confused and i don't know who to turn to for the guide, except u.
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as far as i know, UiTM don't have diploma program for architecture. they only have straight to degree. no diploma.

meaning, that you'll be entering their Part 1 degree program instead of diploma.

mybe Sir Azarimy can give better explaination.

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post Apr 22 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE
D08 - DIPLOMA SENI BINA

Program ini bertujuan membentuk kebolehan pelajar sebagai pereka bentuk dalam bidang seni bina. Pelajar-pelajar juga dilatih menyediakan kerja-kerja reka bentuk dan lukisan persembahan seni bina secara konvensional dan terbantu komputer. Di antara mata pelajarannya ialah Lukisan Seni Bina, Reka Bentuk Seni Bina, Bahan dan Binaan, Perkhidmatan Bangunan, Struktur Seni Bina, CADD, Sejarah Seni Bina, Sains Persekitaran dan Amalan Seni Bina. Lulusan diploma mempunyai peluang pekerjaan yang meluas di firma-firma arkitek atau pembinaan sebagai Pembantu Arkitek atau pereka manakala di sektor awam mereka boleh bekerja di jabatan-jabatan kerajaan sebagai Pembantu Teknik Seni Bina atau melanjutkan pelajaran mereka ke peringkat yang lebih tinggi.


this is the synopsis i get from politeknik website about their Diploma Seni Bina program.

what do you think about the exmple of the syllabus in it sir azarimy? is it a standard syllabus for architecture? i know that every school have different syllabus. what do you think about poli syllabus?

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post Apr 23 2008, 07:04 PM

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gosh...

based on my reading. all architect are marvelous people. they not only an architect, some are even well known engineer, musician, writer and famous artist.

@azarimy. since you're an architect, how do actually architect become master in more than one profession?

for example. there are many architects that is also a great engineers. do their learning during architecture studies enhance or give them special abilities of solving problem or create a new thing?

how do architect build the skills that is not directly involved in their profession such as engineering skills?

you've mention once that an architecture consists of 3 parts art, 4 parts science, 3 parts social skills. do this part help build up their engineering skills? or is it because they are awesome thinker. who always want to make world a better place to live?
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post Apr 24 2008, 07:53 PM

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@azarimy. have you encounter any architect that have pressure from work like in this vid?

http://www.glumbert.com/wii/view.php?name=baddayoffice


hoho. I think i'll try to call matriculation and see if I can register a little bit late to make a better choice.

mybe after finish learning architecture, i'll learn mechanical engineering myself. with an architect mind, i can design. with engineering part after learning, I can design and built my own stuff. Architecture will be a good path for me to be an inventor.
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post Apr 25 2008, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 24 2008, 08:29 PM)
almost every architect i know have gone through a phase similar to that video, myself included.

it's normal, day-to-day occurrences. worse yet, that might not be a PC, but a person tongue.gif
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you beat ur wife or friends to release tension? haha. juz kidding. i've seen u with ur wife photos and it seem that you both look very "mesra".

huahuahua. since u're an architect, do most architects are romantic person? because as far as i know, people who have interest in art usually a romantic people.

wonder if there is any architect out there that have same behaviour like the cool+jerk Dr. House. he's jerk. but i think he's inspired many people to become a doctor. hoho.
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post Apr 25 2008, 08:43 AM

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@azarimy

from ur contact in UTM, how many post-SPM 2007 students went for UTM interview this year?

from all of my friends in SBP, i think architecture begin to lost it's popularity. imagine, out of 136 student in STJ(my old school). i think, beside me, there's only 2 pr 3 people seem to have interest in architecture. even there is one guy whom his father is an architect dun want to be an architect. hoho. i'm not forcing him to be just like his father. just that architecture begin to fade away from kids nowadays. it seems they've not be given enough exposure towards architecture. school nowadays just expose their students towards engineering and medic.

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post Apr 25 2008, 09:23 AM

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based from my 11 years of being in school, school focus more on making more engineer and doctor. 2 years in SBP, i've never heard any motivator or speech or anything that mention architecture. absolute zero. also, i never remember my teacher LK teacher in sbp ever mention about architecture.

only after spm i browse through LYN jobs&career and come across architecture thread. then you provide the link for the discussion in this thread. that is how my interest towards architecture begin. I never thought of thinking of choosing architecture as one of my future career besides engineering. because it is always in my mind that architect need to be good in drawing since their just a small kids. when i was in primary school, lots of kids want to be an architect besides engineer and doctor(i dun belong to either one of this group since i want to be president or nuclear-bomb researcher at that time tongue.gif ). when began to move to secondary school. most of the thought to be an architect fade. none of my old friends want to be an architect. i also began to change towards engineering. now my interest is strongly towards architect. that strong interest also build my mind to make more ideas smile.gif

hoho. but lack of architect in Malaysia is somehow good. as the time pass by, architect might be in a great demand and employer will pay us better in order to get our service. mwahaha. but many architect students is good. sometime, fresh & young mind can bring many great ideas.

@azarimy, could you elaborate more on architecture related freelancing job for people who already have architecture degree.

if u can, can you please provide freelancing example for people with diploma too.

tanx in advance.

PS: by the time i reply in this thread, what is the tym in sheffield?

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post Apr 25 2008, 10:01 AM

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damn!!! you even own ps3. architects sure are rich people.

haha. juz kidding. tanx for da info.

do lecturer who own a firm and teaching in university(in this case UTM) willing to give their students to do some freelancing such as draftsmanship?

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post Apr 25 2008, 02:32 PM

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I'm aware that architects student have a lot of work to do.

juz that if i ever got any financial problem, finding a freelancing job mybe can help me.
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post Apr 26 2008, 12:02 AM

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@yuexia & BurgaFlippinMan

congratulation to both of you. wish u guy/gal luck.

later maybe can be my senior.

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