You don't go into specialisation after Part 1 like a doctor does, ID and QS-ing are different fields though there are areas of overlap, unless you want to switch course. The entry requirements into the two courses are generally lower.

I think TeDuck is exploring the various options if one does not proceed to Part 2 after Part 1.
There are areas of overlap with ID and QS, since there are all part of the building team.
You should be able to get exemptions from certain subjects but I doubt you can shorten the duration of the course especially at degree level.

TeDuck - Have you started on an architectural course already?

Something about the practice of ID in Malaysia...
You don't need a degree to practise because it is not a regulated profession. There is no Part 3 unlike for architects.
Just about anyone, whether he/she has a certificate/diploma/degree or an apprentice with some experience, can call himself/herself an interior designer. It’s probably more important than you look and dress like an interior designer than to be qualified as one! It's just like the building tradesman - carpenters, bricklayers, tilers, etc. who are also not regulated unlike in western countries.

Azarimy - Are there degree courses in ID in Malaysia?

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Apr 29 2009, 06:37 PM

Yea, it's not that bad. Two of the graduates are behind these well-known firms in KL:

http://www.archicentre.com.my/
http://www.garis.com.my/

One of them has a doctorate (from Melbourne U) and was the previous president of PAM.

Mosts of the subjects you do in a typical 5-year BArch course are core subjects i.e. the must-do subjects. There are a few electives which you can choose from a list of subjects offered by the U. It depends on the U whether they have such ID subjects as electives. Anyhow, there would be some ID content in the core design subjects and at some stage, you would required to look into the ID aspect of a project, amongst others.

The principles of design are the same but in ID, you go into the micro scale, design furniture, choose materials, fittings and colour schemes to create the ambience of a place.

The good thing about doing ID is that you don't have to submit plans for approvals or deal with the authorities, unlike architects. The difficult part is that it is a very subjective area, like choosing your clothing and accessories. You have to tailor your design to suit the tastes of the owners.

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Added on May 3, 2009, 11:25 amYou have to decide now, choose one and go for it. There are no advantages doing both, it is a waste of time.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 3 2009, 11:30 AM

castle in the air

My advice is - if your daughter is firm about taking up architecture, go for diploma.
Doing matric is also good in the sense that she keeps her options open.
I find that most 17 yr-olds are undecided on their choice of career. It may be a bit early to decide.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 5 2009, 12:46 PM

That is correct, an architect can be an interior designer but not vice versa. It is common that architects undertake the architectural as well as interior design work of projects.

I wouldn't say the other courses are tougher than architecture. If one doesn't have the aptitude, architecture can be a very tough course.

They are not that new, been around for more than 10 year and is older than Taylor's architecture school. They offer only courses in design. Wonder how they can claim to be the best.

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Added on May 6, 2009, 6:36 pmThe list is here (posted before):
http://lam.gov.my/accreditationlist.html


This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 6 2009, 06:36 PM

Leading is ambiguous. Leading in what?
I guess they have to be aggressive in their publicity, having to compete with the big boys like Taylor & LKW.
Yes, I've seen the huge ad at the flyover near Sunway Pyramid. Well, seems like it has served its purpose - to get noticed and have people thinking.

The kid wouldn't be interested in the non-recognized schools, would he?

Which diplomas in architecture have been recognized by LAN/MQA?

This recognition of IPTS diploma is something new to me.

Anyway, IMO, the recognition does not mean much unless diploma holders from IPTS's get accepted into IPTA's. With so many diploma holders from other IPTA's in addition to the IPTA's own students (UTM for example), where is the chance of IPTS diploma holders getting a place in the IPTA?

As for going into the job market with the IPTS diploma, the recognition matters only if you join the civil service. Anyway, the vast majority of IPTS diploma holders are non-bumi's so chance of getting a government job is again slim.

OK I get u, azarimy. Accreditation for educational establishments can be likened to having the SIRIM approval/endorsement for building products - proof of having satisfied certains standards in the industry.

darth

You have completed your STPM and now your are considering doing A-levels?
I thought A-levels is not accepted by the IPTA's for M'sians to get into local U's.
Since you have done your STPM, I suggest you try the private unis if you can't get a place in the IPTA's.

People who do A-levels are usually those who plan to continue their studies overseas.
There are many colleges offering A-levels, Taylor's and HELP are the better known ones.
The A-level subjects for degree in architecture are quite general The physical sciences and maths would be relevant. Check with the unis concerned about the requirements.

I was thinking that UPU (Unit Permohononan Universiti?) is the entity that processes applications from STPM/matric holders. I wasn't aware that it receives applications from SPM holders as well. Well, I was mistaken.

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Added on May 12, 2009, 8:58 pmI've been old that Taylor's grads have quite a wide choice of unis overseas to choose from, in Australia and UK. So the accreditation by LAM does not really matter here. As you said, UTM diploma is not accredited by LAM anyway.

There is no question of Taylors graduates continuing their architecture degree locally as the course is meant to prepare them for further architectural studies overseas.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 12 2009, 09:01 PM

I'd grab the offer from UTM if I were you.
Cost-wise, it's so much cheaper through IPTA.
In terms of quality of education, I wouldn't think it's better doing it at Taylor's either...I might be wrong. How do you find the course at Taylor's so far?
Anyway, UTM is the most established of all the IPTA's offering architecture courses.

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Added on May 13, 2009, 12:38 pmYes, having a Architecture Master's degree does not make you an architect. Graduates from other disciplines only need to spend a year or so to do the Masters which involves research into a specific area.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 13 2009, 12:38 PM

Of course, without a doubt!

I think it's similar to what the kids in school study nowadays, a subject called 'Tamadun Islam'? Islamic architecture could be one of the topics in the syllabus since islam is the national religion and the majority of the students are muslims. That does not mean the style is advocated. No architecture school would do that.

I think the problem with IPTS is in getting good lecturers. There is not much money to be made or incentives in teaching especially in the private sector hence not many architects are interested to go into teaching. It's more lucrative in private practice. The incentives offered by the public sector (IPTA's) are generally more attractive like what azarimy is enjoying.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 14 2009, 01:05 PM

Those subjects are fine for applying to local U's to do architecture.
The requirement on pre-U subjects for Architecture are not specific unlike medicine or pharmacy where you should do biology.
BTW, your grammar needs attention too.

Hi silenceuk
Wow..you're spoilt for choice! Congratulations on having got so many offers.
Of course U of Melb is the preferred choice for Oz.
Manchester U is quite highly rated too in the UK, in fact higher than Melbourne U in the world ranking.
Locally, there are a lot more practising architects from Melb U, few from Manchester...that I've come across.
IMO, you should get better exposure in architecture in Europe than Down Under.

May I know what you did for pre-U? A-levels?
You must have outstanding results to have got accepted by the prestigious U's.

I thought Monash U does not offer architecture, does it?

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 15 2009, 10:10 AM

Oz is short for Ozzie/Aussie/Australia

Hey, how did you manage to apply to Aussie u's using your STPM? I understand the academic year starts in Feb. Unless there is another intake in the middle of the year.

Monash just started the architecture course last year apparently, so pretty new. It's not yet been accreditated by LAM but it's a matter of time.

Where did you get this from?

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Added on May 17, 2009, 10:24 amThey don't share the same lecturers...that's what azarimy was trying to emphasise.

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Added on May 17, 2009, 10:25 amBath is highly rated but it's a 6-year course, longer than the others.

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Added on May 17, 2009, 10:36 amMany of the new universities with similar names were upgraded from polytechnics, like Sheffield and Sheffiled Hallam. Their ratings are much lower but they are still recognized.

I see, now STPM/A-levels holders can join the Oz unis for mid-year intake without having to wait till the following year. This doesn't apply to all courses though.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 17 2009, 10:36 AM

It does appear that the architecture 'schools' of both UoM and MMU are one and the same entity. It is a joint school so there is no question about the staff being different. It says that it is Manchester's 'only architectural school'.

http://www.msa.ac.uk/

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 19 2009, 04:47 PM