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alesi616
post Nov 8 2021, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Nov 8 2021, 09:24 AM)
Any advice on setia v residence? 4113sqf 4.2mil, overpriced?
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what is the intention of your buying?

For own stay, as long as you like it then go ahead n buy.

For investment, no need think about rental play, for future appreciation I doubt too, limited room for capital appreciation.
4.2 mil got a lot other better landed choices (Seri Tanjung Pinang Semi-D, or Mansion, or future Seri Tanjung Pinang Phase-2 landed).
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post Nov 8 2021, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Nov 8 2021, 10:40 AM)
For own stay, but worry that the view got blocked by new reclamation project. Takut they suddenly change of their reclamation plan.
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I think there wont be any high rise in front of V-residence, according to original plan the high rise is build until gurney paragon area only. But you are right that things may change.

4.2 mil budget why not consider Andaman by E&O? Better and bigger facilities. Although there will be also a reclaim island (STP-2A & 2B) in future.
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post Dec 9 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(henrytan5005 @ Dec 8 2021, 02:54 PM)
Anyone bought in straits residence?
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you bought for investment (rental / flip) or own stay or trophy collection purpose?

my take:
investment: no
own stay: mmm....ok lah not bad
trophy collection: yes
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post Dec 13 2021, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Adeltyp @ Dec 9 2021, 02:10 PM)
Thanks for replying! Hm… It will be for own stay. As I’ve seen the project nearing its completion, most of the units have already been taken up. So far my best bet is a 1200+ square feet unit on a low floor. Price wise is around rm750k. Just worried about future developments like Penang World City at the shoreline, but so far no reclamation works done yet. And as I’ve looked through the comments in this discussion panel, I realised that many are saying that resale value for these types of apartments are dropping due to oversupply. So just wondering if its a wise choice to choose this project, developed by Asia Green or wait for future developments by more reputable developers. Though the price by then would definitely be higher than this one.
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Basically the Penang World City masterplan is gone case...... the joint venture between Ivory + Tropicana is not fruitful. Nobody know when the reclamation of the shoreline is happen, but it is already granted approval, so it WILL HAPPEN, just a matter of time. Thats why you see Ivory sell off this plot of land (it is better location than their own Tropicana Bay Residences land) to Asia Green for money.

Definately the value of condo in these area (Tropicana Bay Resi, Asia Green's Zen Zen Zen series) is not going to appreciate for long time (5-10 yrs I guess). But if you buy for own stay then diff story, as long as u like it. But dont expect the price will be 900k (750k house price + 150k renovation u dump in) in future when you want to sell out.
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post Dec 14 2021, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Adeltyp @ Dec 14 2021, 01:06 AM)
Thanks for the pointers! That’s one thing, plus I did some digging around and found that Bayan Mutiara Area will be super populated in the future. With Zen 9 coming soon as well as Mutiara Biopolis, not sure how everyone will be able to squeeze in this tiny area populated by high rises. Not forgetting Queens residences near QB.

Also the other negative things about Quay West is it’s population density. It’s 1200+ units in just 7 acres of land. Not sure how I feel about being sardines in a can. Plus it is being built on commercial land. Assessment is gonna cost a bomb.
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Definately it is going to be high density, but anywhere is Penang island also similar issue, once developer found a piece of empty land sure they will build thousands of unit to maximize profit (u see PWC area, QB area, Tg Tokong area), so is either take it or leave it. If you want low density, The Light by IJM but u see the hefty price tag (8xxK for a 2 room unit!).

Assestment for commercial (I assume it is 'service apartment' category) will cost around thousands (1-2k i guess) as compared to few hundred for residential title condo.
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post Dec 14 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Adeltyp @ Dec 14 2021, 01:15 PM)
Yes Alesi, the Light is ridiculously expensive. The ones online are like 1 million plus. And yes again, Quay West is under the service apartment category. The only plus point is the location I guess… Still a distance away from the airport, unlike Queens and less traffic (at the moment lol). And the price it’s offered at now. Heard property going to increase again in 2022 due to increasing price of building materials so… Still in a dilemma over it.

But honestly speaking for this area, near QB, is this kind of price cheap/ considered average? 750k for 1200+sf meaning average approx rm600psf.
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I had lost track how much the PSF worth in these area, perhaps you can compare with Tropicana Bay resi (similar bedroom/size, seaview / non seaview), or Asia Green's Zen (but this should be lower PSF as it is meant for 'affordable' and not 'lifestyle/luxury').

Maybe compare also Summerton (but it is leasehold so I expect the PSF lower), Queens waterfront no need compare coz the PSF for seaview unit sure vy expensive, unless u compare the non-seaview (facing west) unit, but again that is not a apple-to-apple comparison, as I assume the your Quay West unit is seaview facing.
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post Dec 15 2021, 06:03 PM

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Vertu in Batu Kawan.....the Aspen's project in SP (Sungai Pinang) is Beacon. Beacon i think sell poorly.
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post Dec 15 2021, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Adeltyp @ Dec 15 2021, 03:48 AM)
Unfortunately Alesi, the unit I have in consideration is pool view facing, not seaview facing. But with morning sun. In Queens its like rm800+psf even for units facing QB mall, no need to mention about those units seaview facing 😅 Way out of budget haha.

Units in Quay West seaview facing is higher in square foot size, therefore making it more expensive. Also a mere dream for a first house buyer like me 🤣 Plus, full seaview is not 100% guaranteed as there are, like you said future reclamation works to be done on the shoreline.

I did consider Tropicana Bay previously, but thought twice in buying second handed property as I understand that legal fees will be higher? 🤔 Plus I did hear that the gov is giving some benefits to first time home buyers buying off property directly from the developer (for this year at least)

May I ask for your kind opinion on high density condos? Like versus low density condos, as I’ve seen a lot of Fb ads promoting “low density” as one of their selling points. The density per acre has got me a bit worried that I’m thinking of considering future developments in that area instead 😅 Which may backfire if prices are skyrocketing high.

Would also like to know about the work quality of this developer aka Asia Green Group. Would like to consult professionals like yourself because I can sense that you have a lot of experience in this field ☺️
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Don't easily fall into 'low density' sweet talk by the agents.....once the building aging and maintenance cost shoot up the owners will bite the pain. Anything below 300/400 units per project I also won't consider. Do you ok to pay close to rm500-600 maintenance fee just for the low-density ?

For example Olive tree condo in bayan baru and The Loft in Bt Maung area, these are less than 200 units condo but the maintenance fee close to rm600/month.

Many many years ago I bought my house in a 700 units project and people around me is like "wahhhh why u buy so high density!"......today high density is more than 1000 or 2000 units .....and the maintenance fee and sinking fund in my condo is a lot so no issue to up-keep the building & maintenance.
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post Dec 16 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Dec 15 2021, 10:39 PM)
Not really. I live on the island and commute to Batu Kawan for work. It just takes 35 to 40 mins one way. Smooth traffic most of the way.

P.s. the current developer promotion they are throwing in free aircond and heater as well. I heard the earlier batch even had free cabinet.
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I guess you travelling on the opposite way (morning: island to mainland. Evening: mainland to island) so the traffic is less hectic. Anyway the 2nd bridge is still under-utilize so the traffic is not really heavy also.
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post Dec 16 2021, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Adeltyp @ Dec 16 2021, 04:27 PM)
Oh my god there are people paying rm600 maintenance fees?? If it’s a super luxury condo then I understand, but if it’s just middle class condo that’s way wayyyy too expensive 😱

No wonder I still see units being sold as new in Olive tree and The Loft.. But rm600 is crazy high. Plus that’s in a month. 1 year it’s rm7200! The higher assessment fees for commercial property doesn’t sound that bad now 😅

That’s good to hear. 700 per project does seem just nice. How high is the maintenance, if you don’t mind me asking. What condo is that btw?

Ps: Forgive my late replies… I have a daily limit of 3 replies per day haha
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the maintenance fee is just rm200 but that is a 11 year old condo already. The amount rm200 on 11 years ago was just right (not cheap, not too expensive).........11 yrs later today seems very cheap hahahaa
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post Dec 17 2021, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Adeltyp @ Dec 17 2021, 12:37 AM)
Nice! Rm200 is cheap! So you mean to say that your house’s maintenance fees has been the same for 11 years? That’s so good.

Alesi, may I consult you as to which area to focus on in Penang if we want to get a.. say.. middle range property.. For stay as well as investment… So that when it’s time to sell, you don’t incur a loss instead. Been reading a lot in this forum and I see people complaining that there are those that are selling properties below market.

But then again, as what diehard has said.. if prices in Penang island keep going up.. who exactly can afford them in future? Everyone would need to be millionaires by then 😅😅
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"maintenance fees has been the same for 11 years"....yes

middle range property, do you mean new / subsale ? budget range ? area (that include where you travel to work, where you usually hang-out to, your usual activity location) ? Need to narrow down the scope first, this are the factors affecting your own-stay property

the high rise price had been stagnant for quite some time, at least 5 yrs from my observation.....gone are the days where you buy before construction start and sell for profit when OC. Nowadays the price even dip (below your buying price / SPA price) after OC.


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post Jan 11 2022, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Jan 10 2022, 01:17 PM)
The Meg @ andaman island
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new iconic.....need to cross 2 bridges to reach mainland.....buy buy buy laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 17 2022, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(eddyooi @ Jan 14 2022, 09:46 PM)
IJM 3 Residence Karpal Singh Drive can buy?
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buy for what purpose? own stay or do BnB? Not sure BnB can be done but i think sooner or later the resident will protest about it.
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post Jan 20 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Jan 19 2022, 04:43 PM)
https://www.sinarharian.com.my/article/1828...it-Kukus-dibuka
Jalan Bukit Kukus got help on traffic at there?
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yeah got help, now the jam bottleneck shifted to bukit jambul traffic light (the one near Inti college and EQ hotel) !
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post Jan 24 2022, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Lovejay1215 @ Jan 23 2022, 09:47 AM)
Hi all,

I was planning to get a property for own stay recently. However, it is pretty hard to find a property that fulfilling all criteria/ need we want (which is usual).
There were a few factors that quite of hard for me to decide, hope anyone could give some advise.

My target range were about 600-700k.
Option 1: Projects with good location (to me), but probably with new developer e.i sandilands, the sun, celesta, montage etc. However, it is the developer were not so "branded" or common like IJM, setia, ecoworld, ideal.

Option 2: Projects with better developer (IJM, Setia, Ecoworld), it is either with very weird location (e.i eco terraces, sky vista) or it is way overprice (e.i waterside). But we can observed those also come with better workmanship and finishing, also management.

Option 3: Projects with "reasonable price" or average developer (Ideal), which with very acceptable PSF (e.i golden triangle, one imperial etc), but also crowded location and density.

I were toward option 1, but developer quality and management also kind of concern me, caused been observed sandilands price were not moving or project like the clovers, arteS.

I hope any experiences or experts could some POV or advise.
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The PG condo price will not moving up in many years to come, be it branded or non branded developer. Gone with the days when you receive your key and the property already appreciate 100k, no it won't happen, even with E&O/Ecoworld/SP Setia/Ideal properties. So take this 'appreciation' factor out of your consideration.


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post Feb 7 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(alwaysohwei @ Feb 6 2022, 04:35 PM)
Any comments on Muze @picc . I like the location and near access to LCE highway
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Hunza quality won't be bad, but pricey at that location if compare to existing projects nearby (One Sky, Elit, Arena).

Overall masterplan implementation still un-known as things change along the time...
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post Feb 9 2022, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(cchin8888 @ Feb 8 2022, 04:41 PM)
very nice and luxury.. but too bad is commercial title.
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Commercial title but is the TNB/water can convert to residential rate (like Tamarind)....if can then only the yearly cukai taksiran higher......but if you can buy 1 mil house then the few hundred / 1-2k higher cukai taksiran wont bother anymore, the high maintenance fee should be more concerning factor.
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post Feb 17 2022, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Feb 16 2022, 10:26 PM)
Top up a bit, consider

The rise collection 2, 800sqft
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Heard the Rise collection got a lot of big big small small workmanship issues, coz they are build from the 'famous' contractor.


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post Feb 28 2022, 09:39 AM

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I still see Sandilands condo selling for 7xxK by developer in FB, this is same price with launching last time......more than 5 years still cannot clear the remaining stocks ? pathetic... serve them right if price their own product wrongly.
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post Mar 1 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Feb 28 2022, 06:06 PM)
Dont be so harsh, a lot developers unable to cleared their stocks one lar
Especially those engage agents to sell one

See Batu Muang projects
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yeah relax..well said..this is just a fact that developer keep chasing high and ignore actual market demand.
When the price is right, there will be fish to bite the bait.

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