QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 18 2014, 01:58 PM)
Scary.. just imagine everyone voting to liquidate in a crash.ICAP, traded price higher than NAV
ICAP, traded price higher than NAV
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Nov 18 2014, 02:36 PM
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Nov 21 2014, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 18 2014, 04:45 PM) High redemption of mutual fund, open ended fund during market crash is quite a norm as well. If they vote to liquidate the fund you are invested in, you will be forced to liquidate as well. So anyone with a controlling interest has the power to tell you what to do with the money you invested with them It is investors money, they decide what to do with their money. I don't see anything wrong nor scary about it. |
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Nov 22 2014, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 22 2014, 09:22 AM) That's the disadvantage of closed ended fund, and one of many reason why closed ended fund is not popular due to lot of disadvantage compared to open ended mutual fund. Having said that, it is same with ordinary listed company, if major shareholders voted yes on whatever resolution, minority which less than 50% is powerless to object as well. The key difference is the size of that majority. In a large listed company, the majority can run into millions. It's possible I guess to convince a few million people to liquidate, but it can't be as easy as convincing 50 people |
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Nov 24 2014, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 24 2014, 11:14 PM) yhtan This. TTB is not getting any younger, almost time to retire. There's no reason for him to risk his reputation now. Wait for the big crash, that is what anyone in his position would do. After all, no one is forcing anyone to not sell Remember the total fees postings before. From 2009 annual report, his fund management fee is 1,747,606, investment advisory fee is also 1,747,606 From 2010 annual report, his fund management fee is 2,018,550, investment advisory fee is also 2,018,550 From 2012 annual report, his fund management fee is 2,894,863, investment advisory fee is also 2,894,863 From 2014 annual report, his fund management fee is 3,109,491, investment fee is also 3,109,481 Total fees for 2009 is 3,495,212 Total fees for 2010 is 4,037,100 Total fees for 2012 is 5,789,726 Total fees for 2013 is 6,179,782 Total fees for 2014 is 6,218,982 Current total of all fees collected since 2009: 25,720,802 Pheeeeewwiiiitttt !!!!!! This closed end fund... allowed to run until what year? If add those years in ..... how much more fees can Teng Boo collect??? Do I think Teng Boo will liquidate before then? Do you think he will liquidate? |
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Nov 25 2014, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(mindful @ Nov 25 2014, 12:34 PM) I lost a lot of years salaries following his advice on newsletter. I was told later that you invest with your risk. TQ. I keep making this mistake too.. you can't follow anyone's advice but your own. You yourself know why you are invested, others have their reasons but they are not yours. It's not a case of being right or wrong but rather your risk level and theirs, their justifications and yours are different. |
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