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Fuji F200EXR : dSLR dynamic range, RM1200 = + 4GB + Case + Screen Protector
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 03:03 PM, updated 17y ago
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F200EXR Owner : 1. philipcs : YS Photo SS2. RM1200 + 4GB + Case + Screen Protector 2. pucman : fotokem RM1200 + 4g + soft case + screen protector but no tripod Seller in LYN: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/885593http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09020402...epixf200exr.aspRetail price : RM1399  _____________________________________________________________________________________________ F100fd Price now: RM899 with 4GB SD Pre PMA 2008: Fujifilm has unveiled what it is calling the 'ultimate F Series' digital camera, the F100fd. Positioned as the flagship model (above the recently announced F50fd), the 12 megapixel F100fd sports a 5x 28-140mm zoom lens, Face Detection 3.0 and sensitivity settings of up to (cough) ISO 12800. More interestingly the F100fd is claimed to offer Wide Dynamic Range capabilities similar to those found on the S5 Pro digital SLR. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012407fujif100fd.aspCan throw away all newbie dSLR> Added on January 24, 2008, 3:12 pmMaybe I change my mind buying dSLR. Maybe I'll buy this instead This post has been edited by gogo2: Apr 9 2009, 09:52 PM
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Jan 24 2008, 03:25 PM) 12mp on 1/1.6" sensor  , doesn't sound good still. yeah, I think performance will still sucks compare to F31fd. let's see the review when it come out. i have high hope that it'll be good. i dun wan to lug around dSLR
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 24 2008, 04:51 PM) I'm seeing mechanical image stabiliser, which F31fd doesn't have. If this camera is priced about 1K, I'm sure it will sell like hot cakes. yes, I'm really happy to see mechanical IS which I think is using CCD shift. High ISO. SR on long exposure. This is super low light camera.
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jan 24 2008, 05:18 PM) not another 12MP sensor  Quite upset with it too. But F50fd already an upset with 12mp  Added on January 24, 2008, 5:27 pmQUOTE(clemong_888 @ Jan 24 2008, 05:26 PM) a usable iso800 would be good enough  iso 12800 is at reduced resolution to 3mp anyways. 3mp is fine for me. my old camera also 3mp only This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 24 2008, 05:27 PM
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Jan 24 2008, 05:51 PM) Shuttter speed 4 sec. to 1/1500 sec is this the correct spec for this new digicam? 1/1500 is slow and 4 sec. is not enuff should have 60 sec to 1/8000 sec and bulb mode. Or at least 1/4000 sec This is not an issue compare to crazy spec such as 12800, dual IS, Wide DR, etc. F100fd is now King of Compact Camera (although may still lose to F31fd).
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Jan 24 2008, 05:59 PM) but most of the time,people prefer fast shooting shots like 1/4000 to 1/8000 sec above mah. Shoot live moving pictures...Not dead things Which DSLR has 12800 ISO? Those Prosumer digicam which has ISO 800 above isnt usable at least. Dump the ISO 12800, And give me CMOS sensor with ISO 3000.More than enough. D300 has 12800 and 25600. Added on January 24, 2008, 6:05 pmQUOTE(JAYworm @ Jan 24 2008, 05:58 PM) so this camera is just announce or released? annouced for PMA. I believe we'll get it soon. This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 24 2008, 06:05 PM
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Jan 24 2008, 06:07 PM) ISO so high ,can it shoot complete 100% dark picture like sony camera? IR led shoot green green picture wan? I think its D3. Not D300. Added on January 24, 2008, 6:19 pmhttp://www.mycen.com.my/sightings/sightings171207_nikon_d3_10.html This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 24 2008, 06:19 PM
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SUSgogo2
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Jan 24 2008, 06:20 PM
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D3 with ISO 25600. Imagine, F100fd with ISO 12800. You can take it without people notice. This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 24 2008, 06:20 PM
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SUSgogo2
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Feb 6 2008, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(clemong_888 @ Feb 6 2008, 06:56 AM) i have a feeling that the ultimate compact will be sigma's dp1.. just don't let the price deter u  its ultimate to people who know about digital camera. but for the mass market, means people on the street, I think 12mp and 5x zoom will be clinching the deal. Sigma's DP1 no zoom and only 4mp.
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SUSgogo2
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Feb 6 2008, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(clemong_888 @ Feb 6 2008, 11:13 AM) it's 14mp http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08013108sigmadp1.asp#specsthe ricoh gr digital has been quite impressive beside being only a 28mm lens cam. but the image processing was just terrible. The output is 4mp only. 14mp is 4mpx3rgb color. U can check the spec  Added on February 6, 2008, 11:22 amPixel: 14.06 million effective pixels (4.69 million x 3) Output size: Image sizes . JPEG: 2640 x 1760 pixels (High) This post has been edited by gogo2: Feb 6 2008, 11:22 AM
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SUSgogo2
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Mar 27 2008, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(sranua @ Mar 27 2008, 08:49 AM) So any kind soul can interpret the chinese, at least the conclusion of the review. if I'm not mistaken, they said not bad wor. I think its like that la. What you expect from non-dslr camera. this is the best you get. Other brand cannot fight liao.
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SUSgogo2
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Mar 31 2008, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(jye'n @ Mar 30 2008, 09:03 PM) ISO performance compared with F50 and F31: http://blog.kitamura.co.jp/829/4440/2008/0...F31_366261.htmlLeft = F100, Right = F50 , Bottom = F31. Image is still quite usable up to ISO1600. ISO3200 upwards is  Seems like better than F50d. But all taken with different exposure and I believe different time. Very bad comparison.
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 1 2008, 10:05 AM
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Someone selling in garage sale for RM1230 without any freebies. Can get now liao
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 1 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 1 2008, 02:02 PM) if you can wait till this weekend la.. lol. most likely i'll be getting it this weekend Watch out for pinkish band at ISO400 or higher at left side http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...thread=27330596By the way, I heard now all F100fd is made in Japan. Is it true? Also next time will be made in China. I think if this is the case, better buy it now.
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 2 2008, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Apr 2 2008, 10:55 AM) so should i ditch my f31fd and go for this? nope. why waste money? but surely, this one will have better feature than f31fd. optical stabilizer 5x zoom 12800 ISO Nothing in this world can fight Fuji. Canon/Nikon/Pana is crap
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 2 2008, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Apr 2 2008, 11:13 AM) just having the itchy 4$$ to change  ...but do u guys notice, most of these compact cams from fuji the price all kinda on the low side compared with canon or sony.. Because there's a lot of ignorant people out there who still think Canon is the best. You go and read the recommendation thread there. There's a fool called gogo2 who always ask people to buy Canon
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 18 2008, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Apr 17 2008, 10:34 PM) Yeah Fujifilm does sells at lower price range. I think its a good alternative brand to consider since it is priced reasonably. Those Canon/Sony cameras are expensive because they're so established over here and have a good loyal brand name. Consumers are brand conscious mah. In other countries, Canon/Sony may not be so successful. Fujifilm and other brands are more popular. Its always like this. I remember Fujifilm very popular 10 years ago. Their Super CCD has been touted as the best but don't know what happen to them. Maybe they shifted their focus on other countries. Fujifilm marketing sucks. I send them an email saying their marketing sucks and I propose myself to be their marketing manager. But they didn't reply me.
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 18 2008, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(safetylance @ Apr 18 2008, 09:31 AM) wah..u so keng lar.. so if become their marketing manager, then can gip me demo set to try out lor..  but I send them 2 years ago. They haven't reply me. So I guess they reject it...
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 18 2008, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(safetylance @ Apr 18 2008, 10:02 AM) gogo2, seem u bought the F100FD liao... So how much u buy & where buy ? Wat free gives u get ?? Added on April 18, 2008, 10:04 amSGD 410 onli ?? wah damn cheap lar..i ask around here cheapest is RM 1250 with free bies eh, why u said I buy already? I told u I haven't buy la....due to pink band problem.
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SUSgogo2
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Apr 18 2008, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(safetylance @ Apr 18 2008, 10:55 AM) aiyah..u write u bought liao ma in IXUS 90is that y i ask lor.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « the pink banding occurs only on some pics at iso 1600 - usually with very low ambient light.
This is much less important and occurs less frequently than purple fringing or overexposure which is the problem with F31fd. A fix is still welcome nevertheless.
So F100fd is good buy eventhough with the pink band issue. tongue.gif
Added on April 17, 2008, 5:37 pm"I don't know anything official, but I have been buying DSLR cameras from Nikon for a long time now, the D1 was my first and it had a terrible noise problem at higher ISO, purple banding real bad and Nikon did very little about it and it took forever. Oh and yes another model did come out, but not before they sold a lot of D1's. Since then I have owned a D2X and now a D3 with real usable high ISO, fantastic camera by the way.
I also like Fuji pocket cameras, I own a F810 and a F100fd which i just purchased yesterday. I debated after reading about the banding and looking at several reviews, and various test photos on web sites around the world. My view is the F100fd has so much going for it that photographers once they realize how minimal the problem really is they will buy it anyway. I suspect the problem is only apparent infrequently, and the other benefits of the camera out weigh this negative.
I thought I would wait at first, but then decided life is way too short to spend it waiting and hoping. Plus I suspect those of you waiting on an answer and solution will be waiting a long time, I don't think Fugi will answer any time soon. I am retired now, but I was a mechanical engineer who purchased machine tools from around the world for a US company. I purchased equipment from Japan on several occasions,now I know electronics are a bit different, but my experience with both big companies and the Japanese culture is that they will examine every aspect of this problem very carefully before they provide their response. They will error on the side of caution, as the solution if there is one has to be correct. They wont want to cause another problem with their solution. i suspect you are looking at months waiting on the answers you are looking for.
Geesh the F100fd is hardly even available in stores, still hard to get and you are talking about the F110fd this fall, get real here. I know technology moves fast, but consider this, the F100fd was announced when (months ago) and just now is is starting to be available in stores around the world, the UK is still waiting? I think even.
Anyway I bought the camera and am going to enjoy it while I wait on a fix if there ever even is one, meanwhile the next newest advance will come possibly while we are waiting. Oh and yes there will in all probability be issues with the next advance what ever it is that you might want to wait to be resolved; but heck maybe by then the pink banding wont be a problem anymore."
This post has been edited by gogo2: Yesterday, 05:37 PM  Hahah, I quote other people quote and didn't put the link there....
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