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post Jun 2 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jun 2 2008, 11:41 AM)
No i didn't go to the whiskas thinggy... cos i didnt give whiskas to my cats. eheheh later they ask questions, i do not know anything.

i even missed the cat show at kelana jaya..."FSM International Cat Show"  shakehead.gif
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Haha, that's the reason I didn't go too... Tapi my lil sis begged me to go(cuz she wanna go see the cats), she said free food, why not?

But I seriously cannot tahan when the announcer said Whiskas has spent a lot on research and dev to provide the best cat food for the cats... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 2 2008, 12:10 PM)
Haha, that's the reason I didn't go too... Tapi my lil sis begged me to go(cuz she wanna go see the cats), she said free food, why not?

But I seriously cannot tahan when the announcer said Whiskas has spent a lot on research and dev to provide the best cat food for the cats... shakehead.gif

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post Jun 2 2008, 04:45 PM

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ingredients for cuties catz:

wholegrain cereal, soybean meal, poultry by product meal, corn gluten meal, chicken oil, fish meal, brewers dried yeast, iodized salt, chicken digest(ayam tercerna), essential vitamins, and minerals, antioxidants, food coloring and flavoring.


Added on June 2, 2008, 4:49 pm
QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 2 2008, 10:55 AM)
Aiyerrr, whose cat are you baby sitting?

Why so bad one?

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my friend's..

i guess its their first time bela a cat

but already given a whole lecture mad.gif by me!!

even blackmailed them if they wont take good care of it.. id steal the cats!

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QUOTE(annetize @ Jun 2 2008, 04:45 PM)
ingredients for cuties catz:

wholegrain cereal, soybean meal, poultry by product meal, corn gluten meal, chicken oil, fish meal, brewers dried yeast, iodized salt, chicken digest(ayam tercerna), essential vitamins, and minerals, antioxidants, food coloring and flavoring.


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my friend's..

i guess its their first time bela a cat

but already given a whole lecture  mad.gif by me!!

even blackmailed them if they wont take good care of it.. id steal the cats!

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Hmm, seems like the ingredient like Friskies and Whiskas also... No real meat, only by-products...

Betul tak elf?

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Yeah, kena lecture your friend lar... First time bela also takkan tak nampak kalau dah berkudis macam tu? shakehead.gif

Mesti dia bela bagi makan je... Tak bela betul2... doh.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 2 2008, 05:24 PM)
Hmm, seems like the ingredient like Friskies and Whiskas also... No real meat, only by-products...

Betul tak elf?

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Yes betul cakap krynz, the same like friskies and whiskas...

the tips to buy food.. check the ingredients, if the first 2/3 ingredients are grains or what so ever not related to meat.. reject it straight away. Like i mention before, its like feeding Roti Canai to a cat.


Added on June 2, 2008, 6:48 pmOk lets study the different.

A) THIS IS FRISKIES INGREDIENTS
Ground yellow corn, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal, meat and bone meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soybean meal, animal liver flavor, phosphoric acid, calcium carbonate, salt, potassium chloride, oceanfish meal, albacore tuna meal, salmon meal, yellowfin tuna meal, crab meal, dried seaweed, choline chloride, taurine, zinc sulfate, added color (Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Red 40, Blue 2), ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, etc.

B) THIS IS ROYAL CANIN
Chicken, chicken meal, rice, corn gluten meal, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid), corn, pea fiber, natural chicken flavor, dried egg powder, rice hulls, beet pulp (sugar removed), salmon oil, ground psyllium, soya oil, sodium silico aluminate, potassium chloride, fructo-oligosaccharides, etc.

C) THIS IS IAMS
Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Grits, Corn Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E, and Citric Acid), Fish Meal (source of fish oil), Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Sodium Bisulfate, Potassium Chloride, DL-Methionine, Brewers Dried Yeast, Choline Chloride, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, etc.



Ok you see the first ingredients. Friskies gives Ground yellow corn. Royal canin and iams both giving Chicken. Cat food manufacturer normally listed it, from the MOST used, till the less used. Like all the vitamins below others important ingredients.

Hope you understand, and next time if people ask, you can explain it this way.

p/s correct me if im wrong. i learn this from a breeder.


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jun 2 2008, 06:37 PM)
Yes betul cakap krynz, the same like friskies and whiskas...

the tips to buy food.. check the ingredients, if the first 2/3 ingredients are grains or what so ever not related to meat.. reject it straight away. Like i mention before, its like feeding Roti Canai to a cat.


Added on June 2, 2008, 6:48 pmOk lets study the different.

A) THIS IS FRISKIES INGREDIENTS
Ground yellow corn, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal, meat and bone meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soybean meal, animal liver flavor, phosphoric acid, calcium carbonate, salt, potassium chloride, oceanfish meal, albacore tuna meal, salmon meal, yellowfin tuna meal, crab meal, dried seaweed, choline chloride, taurine, zinc sulfate, added color (Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Red 40, Blue 2), ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, etc.

B) THIS IS ROYAL CANIN
Chicken, chicken meal, rice, corn gluten meal, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid), corn, pea fiber, natural chicken flavor, dried egg powder, rice hulls, beet pulp (sugar removed), salmon oil, ground psyllium, soya oil, sodium silico aluminate, potassium chloride, fructo-oligosaccharides, etc.

C) THIS IS IAMS
Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Grits, Corn Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E, and Citric Acid), Fish Meal (source of fish oil), Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Sodium Bisulfate, Potassium Chloride, DL-Methionine, Brewers Dried Yeast, Choline Chloride, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, etc.
Ok you see the first ingredients. Friskies gives Ground yellow corn. Royal canin and iams both giving Chicken. Cat food manufacturer normally listed it, from the MOST used, till the less used. Like all the vitamins below others important ingredients.

Hope you understand, and next time if people ask, you can explain it this way.

p/s correct me if im wrong. i learn this from a breeder.

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QUOTE(bugpakoo @ Jun 2 2008, 09:06 PM)
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post Jun 3 2008, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jun 2 2008, 06:37 PM)
Yes betul cakap krynz, the same like friskies and whiskas...

the tips to buy food.. check the ingredients, if the first 2/3 ingredients are grains or what so ever not related to meat.. reject it straight away. Like i mention before, its like feeding Roti Canai to a cat.


Added on June 2, 2008, 6:48 pmOk lets study the different.

A) THIS IS FRISKIES INGREDIENTS
Ground yellow corn, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal, meat and bone meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soybean meal, animal liver flavor, phosphoric acid, calcium carbonate, salt, potassium chloride, oceanfish meal, albacore tuna meal, salmon meal, yellowfin tuna meal, crab meal, dried seaweed, choline chloride, taurine, zinc sulfate, added color (Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Red 40, Blue 2), ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, etc.

B) THIS IS ROYAL CANIN
Chicken, chicken meal, rice, corn gluten meal, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid), corn, pea fiber, natural chicken flavor, dried egg powder, rice hulls, beet pulp (sugar removed), salmon oil, ground psyllium, soya oil, sodium silico aluminate, potassium chloride, fructo-oligosaccharides, etc.

C) THIS IS IAMS
Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Grits, Corn Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E, and Citric Acid), Fish Meal (source of fish oil), Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Sodium Bisulfate, Potassium Chloride, DL-Methionine, Brewers Dried Yeast, Choline Chloride, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, etc.

Ok you see the first ingredients. Friskies gives Ground yellow corn. Royal canin and iams both giving Chicken. Cat food manufacturer normally listed it, from the MOST used, till the less used. Like all the vitamins below others important ingredients.

Hope you understand, and next time if people ask, you can explain it this way.

p/s correct me if im wrong. i learn this from a breeder.

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Great study reference elf! rclxms.gif

By-product are not good cuz they are only the internal organs of the source, not the real meat.

If a product includes real meat, they will write it as chicken meat or chicken meal or fresh meat or turkey meal and so on.

Even they write just "Chicken" the meaning can be any part of the chicken, not just the meat.

Ohh, I just remembered that I have a book about the food study... Hehehe, lupa... I should write some of it here smile.gif

Plus, I like to choose those that includes veggie in the cat food such as, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes and so on... That's why I choose those premium one smile.gif A whole some balance!

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QUOTE(bugpakoo @ Jun 2 2008, 09:06 PM)
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Hi..
Am new here..
But really2 cat lover..
I love to share some info with all of you and learn more about cats.. smile.gif


If you really want a cat, i've few kitten to sell RM 400 each. Very cheap compared to petshop price range.
Is a mix Persian, very adorable and well trained. thumbup.gif
The reason i want to sell those kitten because i already have 8 adorable, fat and lovely cats.
Looking for someone who can love the kitten as much as i love the elderly(cat).
Interested, please email me at shimahoney@gmail.com
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2) Advertising of Pet sales or wanting to purchase/adopt a pet is prohibited. Do it in the Garage Sales instead.

Dear, there's a ruling here. Please edit your post smile.gif

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wanna share something..

abg bro and i went for a "quality cat food at affordable price" hunting today

we found this one brand -whiskies-(not whiskas)

this are the ingredients:

fish meal, poultry meal, soy bean meal, corn gluten meal, yellow corn, rice, chicken extract, vegetable oil, vitamin c, vitamin e, essential minerals, taurine, rice and food coloring.

is this ingredients ok?

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Hehe!! i'm a superb cat lover!! since i was young i had learn to take care of cats!! hehe! cat is my life and my best friends!!

As for your information about friskies are like what you guy say is not 100% pure meat. If for adult cats eat, their fur sure will drop more than normal. So, better give your cats eat a little a day. But there is a new product range, for friskies. There they write 100% pure meat is use to make the cat biscuits. So, i think this is alright to eat. But still the same word, dont eat too much.

For whiskas, i think, the pocket biscuit is quite interesting. However, it still not 100% meat. But still your cats can eat it. But i guess for cat biscuits i think better just give them eat once a day.

Sometimes, cats would like to change their flavour. But i'm quite sure not the same brand they eat. For my cats, i give them eat both friskies and whiskas. This is because they don't like to eat just one brand. Sometimes they would like to taste something different. However, my cat's dinner normally would be their favourite fish.

The fish should be cooked! THis is for the fish that you bought at market. However, if your fish is freshly from the sea then probably you can save one step.

Temporarily, this is my experience. I will keep update this thread!

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QUOTE(annetize @ Jun 3 2008, 06:36 PM)
wanna share something..

abg bro and i went for a "quality cat food at affordable price" hunting today

we found this one brand -whiskies-(not whiskas)

this are the ingredients:

fish meal, poultry meal, soy bean meal, corn gluten meal, yellow corn, rice, chicken extract, vegetable oil, vitamin c, vitamin e, essential minerals, taurine, rice and food coloring.

is this ingredients ok?
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I personally do not think that Whiskies is not a good one. after looking at the ingredients. never heard of that food too.

fish is good for cats, but still, chicken or meat is far better.

if you intent to give fish you buy at the market, please boil it first. do not feed them raw fish.

i do give canned fish to my cat, but sometimes only, because i don't really like the smell of that canned, when u open it, the fish smell mix with with the canned smell, like "berkarat". pouch is better, but u need to buy alot so it become as much as the canned.

i do believe some part of the fish is food for cats.

I do not know much about cat kibbles that made from fishes. I alway come across on chicken and meat.


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Have you guys ever wonder why when we say CAT, we will think of FISH? whistling.gif

Cat personally hates water, so its impossible the go fishing near the water, like a bear that catch fishes with one hand. eheheh weird right...

my grandma told me... it is because, Cat always steal fish from the kitchen tongue.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jun 3 2008, 07:21 PM)
Have you guys ever wonder why when we say CAT, we will think of FISH?  whistling.gif

Cat personally hates water, so its impossible the go fishing near the water, like a bear that catch fishes with one hand. eheheh weird right...

my grandma told me... it is because, Cat always steal fish from the kitchen tongue.gif
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Yala el...it's true...cats cannot resist the taste of fish maaa....and they're so curious looking at those fishies swimming around in the aquarium...haha fun to look at them...so amusing... laugh.gif
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That is the first time i heard about it... It's so hilarious.. haha!!
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And the best part.. any product for cat, mesti ada fish picture tongue.gif like dog they normally put bone (yes they do have toys that look like bone)..

but cat, most of the toys got tails like mouse/mice ehehehe. but fish become number 1, then mice.

even some other product such as the food bowl (also got fish), hmm collar (also got fish icon/design).. eheheh
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Ya! i'm totally agree with you!! Fish is the main picture or thing for cats... They are like part of cat's life. haha!!
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Anyway, I bought the carrier for RM46 last 3 days....found it in Subang SS15...and my Putih likes it so much haha!!

1 question for u El, how to train my Putih to poopoo or peepee at a designated place? tongue.gif

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