come on you guyz .

investment have loss and profit . dont stop people from joining but just advise them .

you never know whether it grown fast and profitable , just like you play in share investment . ain't you`ll realise how old town grown or mcD or other biz .

started with few investor where rich so they dont need much people to join them only few will do the job , and then expand thier biz when there a profit . do you ever think they have such much cash in hand to affort a loss at first branch . answer maybe yes maybe no , when there cash in hand they will just continue in opening a new branch .

for this cafe wht they wanna do maybe is not to scam people . just they dont have it plan carefully . they miss step a wrong step in doing so or maybe no , just like amway , do you ever think seen their first 1 year was so smooth ? everyone believe in them , untill now still people dont believe in direct selling .


no offense or what just an advise to people to think whether they afford to risk it or not , high risk come with high return .just like share investment rite timing rite company rite investment come with good return .

We didnt stop them from joining, coz we didnt have power to. I assume your "stop" means physically confront the (to-be) joiners and go lengths to stop him.

We here advised them to becareful of the risk and cons side, and the fishiness of things . its not even a "stop" also. they still have their full freedom to proceed with joining.

high-risk = high returns

if like this.. why not start a topic on robbing the bank coz thats another high-risk = high returns venture. and try not to "stop" the people who intend to do so, as like what your logic dictates...... maybe he does hit it rich and gets away with it?

If the scheme is about joining or becoming the shareholders of IRC, then yes, probably one can gain if the company growth into like McD or other biz, but it is not.

Scheme member is not an investor of the company, the company issue has nothing to do with the scheme joiner.

High risk not equal to high return, it can be high loss.

High risk never mean high return, it just mean potential high return only which by no mean is guaranteed.

Invest in wrong and unsustainability investment or some scam (I am not saying this is, just a general statement) out there can mean high risk = no gain or high loss as well.

No one is stopping anyone to join or not, people just bring out the discussion point on sustainability, legitimatility, viable of the scheme.

it's in Crystal Point, Penang

nor....... im not talking about anything or wht just my point of view cause people inside here just keep scolding on it or wht maybe .

they putting thier statement more then opinion , just like putting a death penalty to a person while there still room for investigating .

no offense no offense ya hehehe , tht wht i see le .

who also know . what mean high risk = high return = high loss
if tht person only think high risk = to high return then i nothing say .

and sure when you ever made your investment alsways think bout whether you afford to loss it anot wht .
if you not able to afford it , but you still wanna go for a investment that way beyond your current financial thn is = you know ......

no offense just a word not to who or wht just word to go through .

anyway thk for going through my word . remember no offense

This post has been edited by whoknowz: Dec 10 2008, 09:05 AM

There's some differences between high risk, high return vs high loss. It's up to market speculations, where as, the other one, if one already smells something fishy, and still invest, you're not taking high risk, you are taking unnecessary risk!

hahahahahahaha , still dont get it rite .

im not talking good or bad it just a word for some thinker .

they will think deeper for the word one self have voice out


necessary or not it all depend on oneself . we just gave opinion .

i know what it mean by throwing your money in to deep sea . and for me this investment also not really a good investment for me . i also wont suggest a investment should going in there . because im not afford to loss

all legendary story or act are crazy at the first peop though they are stupid but in the end thoese people which stupid were them self .


i know wht you talking you are just trying to save people from it , on a loss business cause some fact had shown it .

anyway no offense again no one to blame or what , is all just advise .

just smile , a person always expand thier though on wht people say , some word mean deeper meaning .

remember im not saying what or what just a word . just like reading a textbook . there chances for misstake also .

no offense no offense ya .


and below sentence is my word la maybe harm abit .

if opinion dont quote on peop word just say i think is not even a investment or wht .

dont offense on people word if you dont wan peop offense about yours .

my word and advise end here . no other word from me . thk

sorry if im sound so like teacher or what

This post has been edited by whoknowz: Dec 10 2008, 02:57 PM

just knew that my fren's uncle is the boss of IRC. but what my friend told me is i can only invest rm330 and earn more than that each week. but since its mlm, i have no interest with it even if it makes alot of money to me.

i think Steven Corner Cafe also doing the same right?? i got invest in Steven Corner RM11,500.00. i got return 5% cash return and RM300.00 voucher. i give up after a years coz i consider it too slow and risky:p

btw i dont like the food and service also. Think now they still selling the plan.

wow, RM11,500 is quite a big amount.
Did you get full return when u quit?
Did you get your 5% every month for that year?

Hi stanwhisky..
I know where u can search Island Red Cafe at penang. It just opened at Crytal Point, Penang

ur money=additional investment
lets take an example island red cafe=insurance or investment bank
ur money since i said additional investment to them= saving acc/fd/unit trust and etc get the picture yet
which the legality of it is still under research

anyone here already had invested on island red cafe or any other similar plan company?

brought by my old friend to eat at the cafe while he explaining abt the RM330 so-call e-voucher which never expired. I don't like the plan as he clearly mentioned it a binary plan where you need to introduce 2 ppl under you and you get RM 15 from each of them and additional RM45 ringgit for pairing them. Can't remember edi how much for subsequent pairing on the hierarchy but frankly, it's not the plan i like. Furthermore, the choice of food not the many to be choose to suit my taste as my taste only a warong standard. somehow I see the menu listing almost similar with old town menu list.

i remember a lot ppl laughing at old town that they will fail... but now....

For me... if the investement have 20% yearly ... then is very good already............

Just change a view , if u have a business can let u earn 60% per year for guarantee , will u ask other ppl to have ur company share ? I am self fish la... i wont do tat ... i rather loan from bank for development.

2nd, i dont see why just a simple investment why investor need to find other investor to investor...

oh, so this is the so called island red cafe ar?

my area nearby going to open a new island red cafe branch in danau kota. i thinks i have to set my mind b4 step into cafe for yam cha.

If the business is profitable, he won't be looking for small shareholders. It's not about getting a loan from a bank, it's about his books are not clean or pretty enough to be shown to the bank to afford a loan.

This scheme will never work, the recession has bitten IRC so hard because they have expanded too fast. Now you gotta pay the price. And i suspect they need the money from the public to repay couple of loans due.

hahaahahaha is not about share holder or what is just all about Multi level Marketing (MLM)



Anyway i also know that thier company gonna end the shareholder deal . is a very interesting new to hear . good news .



i get involved in it . Guess what i almost eat up all my money in there , and i still not have people to join me .
so what i didnt earn a cent , so ???? im i loss ??? no i just invest in my daily meal .earn or not i dont care . important im not losing my money .


and guess what i even get to know some famouse peop while im eating in there .
and alot more le ,


Anyway joining mlm and doing mlm is difference .


Ask me my opinion

I can tell information about it . cause i came across this company while other didnt

If
You ask me do i earn a cent ?
i say hehe haven earn a cent also maybe later? whoknows .

You ask me do i loss my money?
i say NO i just doing my daily routine, eat only what

You ask me this good or bad to join?
i say this Might be your chances . Dont know ....

You ask me a chances of what?
i say you decide your self .

You ask again a chance to loss your money or a chance to earn some money?
i say depend you

He say if i join 6900 d plan ok a ? .
i say GIla a you Rm6900 pun it there need wait so long only can earn back some of your money , idiot act !

He ask how about Rm 330 d le ?
i say if you live near that cafe ok, if not SOT a lu , you pay for it and come so far to eat .

he say again if i live near le ?
erm if you not scare the company 2mr will bankrupt and you can eat all up your money in there thn i say give it a try . it might a chances

At Last do you know people who earn alot in here ?
yup i know some .

I like the bolded part...
It shows clearly that IRC plan is a pyramid plan..
Did you ever heard investor of Public Mutual Unit Trust or other major investment company finding other investor to invest?