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 Island Red Cafe, MLM Business 5% fixed return

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post Jan 13 2009, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Jan 13 2009, 01:19 AM)
I like the bolded part... tongue.gif
It shows clearly that IRC plan is a pyramid plan.. smile.gif
Did you ever heard investor of Public Mutual Unit Trust or other major investment company finding other investor to invest? hmm.gif
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Hmm... that's really FOOD FOR THOUGHT. If I'm given a chance to invest in A PROMISING INVESTMENT (read: real investment opportunity), I would buy many lots, rather than going around finding investors to share the pie (btw do this cafe serve tasty pies? LOL). Usually shrewd investor are "selfish" in certain ways, never generous and go around asking stranger to invest what they invest in.





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post Jan 13 2009, 10:24 AM

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thats y i rather put my money in fix deposit . heheheeh

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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Jan 12 2009, 01:35 AM)
hahaahahaha is not about share holder or what is just all about Multi level Marketing (MLM)
Anyway i also know that thier company gonna end the shareholder deal . is a very interesting new to hear . good news .
i get involved in it . Guess what i almost eat up all my money in there , and i still not have people to join me .
so what i didnt earn a cent , so ???? im i loss ??? no i just invest in my daily meal .earn or not i dont care . important im not losing my money .
and guess what i even get to know some famouse peop while im eating in there  .
and alot more le ,
Anyway joining mlm and doing mlm is difference .
Ask me my opinion

I can tell information about it .  cause i came across this company while other didnt


If
You ask me do i earn a cent ?
i say hehe haven earn a cent also maybe later? whoknows .

You ask me do i loss my money?
i say NO i just doing my daily routine, eat only what

You ask me this good or bad to join?
i say this Might be your chances . Dont know ....

You ask me a chances of what?
i say you decide your self .

You ask again a chance to loss your money or a chance to earn some money?
i say depend you

He say if i join 6900 d plan ok a  ? .
i say GIla a you Rm6900 pun it there need wait so long only can earn back some of your money , idiot act !

He ask how about Rm 330 d le ?
i say if you live near that cafe ok, if not SOT a lu , you pay for it and come so far to eat .


he say again if i live near le ?
erm if you not scare the company 2mr will bankrupt and you can eat all up your money in there thn i say give it a try . it might a chances

At Last do you know people who earn alot in here ?
yup i know some .
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notworthy.gif Great answers.
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post Jan 18 2009, 05:46 PM

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Anyone who is considering investing in a company / business should always check out the people behind the company / business. A lot of people might say they do that, but the due diligence falls far short of what is required.

For public interest, here's some statutory information on them.*
*This might be useful for those of you who have already invested, and would like to know who you can contact if you are unhappy about your investment to date.

Note: Please feel free to link to this post in other threads regarding Island Red Cafe (IRC). Helps draw attention to the people behind it, and also provides people background information.

Island Red Cafe Franchise Sdn Bhd (779570-K), formerly known as CTI Cleaning Sdn Bhd
Change Date: 16-01-2008 (16th January 2008) (Initial Registration Date: 04-07-2007 (4th July 2007))
Registered Address: No. 39-2, Jalan SL 1/3, Bandar Sungai Long, Kajang, 43000 Selangor
No specified Business Address.
Authorised Capital: RM1.0 mil
Issued Capital: RM1.0 mil (RM2 cash and RM999,998 other than cash)

Directors
1. Teow Chee Chow (Appointed 4th July 2007)
K1-G-08 Kenari Court, Jalan Pandan Indah 6/1, Pandan Indah, 55100 Kuala Lumpur
IC / Passport: 890117-07-5653

2. Ong Tong Swan (Appointed 20th June 2008)
3D-21-03, N Park, Jalan Batu Uban, 11700 Gelugor, Pulau Pinang
IC / Passport: 771103-07-5749

Secretary
1. Azlizan bin Abdul Aziz (Appointed 4th July 2007)
AC-4-2, Jalan Pandan Indah 3/6, Pandan Indah, 55100 Kuala Lumpur
IC / Passport: 801025-06-5055

Share distribution:
1. Ch'ng Wee Ling (IC / Passport: 680331-08-5013) (244,999)
2. Ong Tong Swan (244,999)
3. Lee Choi Yoong (IC / Passport: 790912-05-5346) (1)
4. Teow Chee Chow (510,001)

No statutory financial statements filed per 2nd January 2009.

Note: If you require it, you may contact me about purchasing a copy of the above statutory statements. Have a good day.
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post Jan 18 2009, 07:15 PM

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thank ......... anyway whts your opnion cause now day even one great direct selling company are going out of it road d .

example e-cosway . amway also .


e-cosway start to put their product in store d . !!!!!
Amway start to promote using advertising d . !!!!!!!

they are not surpose to do that rite ??? correct me if im wrong ..
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post Jan 19 2009, 01:29 PM

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i dont think island cafe is bad.. because they cannot lsit in the stock exchange n borrow from bank.. so they need fast way to get capital.. but i still think 5% is not worth it.
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post Jan 19 2009, 04:11 PM

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lulz...not all direct selling is bad
in 1000 ppl there is like 3% ppl will bcome dam rich
but tis all about talent n chances
It's a part of bussiness
not all ppl can be rich if u nvr take risk
but if u think u r not talented, dont try on it
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:28 PM

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actually they already have 12 branches in whole malaysia...
they hav few different type of investment which starts from RM330.

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post Jan 23 2009, 02:50 PM

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they have 15 branches in malaysia...after CNY there will be another 2 branches opening soon in Seremban....

For those who want to know more about this, also can contact me....

Is real good money income...

well...do PM me...
anywhere, my location is in Damansara..
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post Jan 23 2009, 04:38 PM

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Seriously their food taste like crap! I think they cook their food in advance and store it in the fridge. When people order, they will just reheat the food. Better eat at hawker, cheaper and taste better.
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is this the island cafe in ss2 we are talking about?
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post Jan 31 2009, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Jan 24 2009, 02:11 AM)
is this the island cafe in ss2 we are talking about?
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nope...that 1 is difference..
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post Jan 31 2009, 11:30 AM

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1 is newly opened at danau kota area
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post Jan 31 2009, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Jan 31 2009, 11:30 AM)
1 is newly opened at danau kota area
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Yeah, and it seems that the business is growing. A big respect for the owner for achieving such good sales.
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jan 31 2009, 11:33 AM)
Yeah, and it seems that the business is growing. A big respect for the owner for achieving such good sales.
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owh hello there....I thought you're an MLM basher !
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post Jan 31 2009, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Jan 31 2009, 06:51 PM)
owh hello there....I thought you're an MLM basher !
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Nope, I'm not an MLM basher, but I'm a pyramid scheme basher. Most of MLM uses pyramid scheme, hence, comes the bash. smile.gif
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post Jan 31 2009, 07:26 PM

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its like loaning them cash ... @@"
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post Feb 3 2009, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Jan 23 2008, 11:02 AM)
I think penang coming soon, not yet open since melaka, puchong and jb also coming soon as what Felice821 told.
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there's already 3 IRCs opened in penang if not wrong. i went to the one in bayan lepas once
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jan 31 2009, 07:10 PM)
Nope, I'm not an MLM basher, but I'm a pyramid scheme basher. Most of MLM uses pyramid scheme, hence, comes the bash. smile.gif
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if an MLM does not use pyramid scheme, it is not an MLM. So just bash'em all !
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QUOTE(Shinja @ Jan 19 2009, 04:11 PM)
lulz...not all direct selling is bad
in 1000 ppl there is like 3% ppl will bcome dam rich
but tis all about talent n chances
It's a part of bussiness
not all ppl can be rich if u nvr take risk
but if u think u r not talented, dont try on it
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This shows you don't understand the structure and methods of MLM/pyramid scheme.

The 3% need to be successful in order to show the other 97% so+hai (sorry I can find other more appropriate word to describe this) that they can be successful so that they try to make more money for the company. The money from the 3% rich ones comes from the other 97% stupid ones.

One example is using casino analogy.

The way the games are designed in casinos is done such that the odds always favour casinos. There are no such things as 50/50 chance in any of the games in casinos. Even roulette have higher odds for banker. Sure, black and red is 50/50 but don't forget there are green 0 and green 00. Some even have green 000. That already place the odds in favour of banker. So, in the end, casinos will ALWAYS make money. That is why everyone want to open casinos. As long as you have steady stream of gamblers, casinos will always make money.

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