This is the second time the clutch jammed when I wanna change gear when going up the hill..

The 1st time, I was in gear 3, then I pressed the clutch n wanna switch to second gear, but the clutch jammed, the clutch got no feeling at all, I couldn't switch any gear, once I force it to 1st gear, the engine died, it is just like I din't press the clutch, so I turn off the engine n turn on again, then the clutch becomes normal again, but the clutch felt like much lighter than b4 jammed, I approached my foremen, I told him dat my clutch jammed on half way going up hill while changing gear, n the clucth felt much lighter than b4, so he tested drive my car to checked if the clutch got any problem or not, after checking, he said nothing wrong n he can do nothing. Ok fine, this happened to me 4 months ago.

Then second time, which is today, I went to Genting again, this time was very serious, becoz the clutch totally jammed while I wanna change gear on the slope, I turn on n off the engine for many times, the clutch still jammed, so after 30 mins of trying to turn off n on the engine, I try switching the gear when the engine is off, it is normal dat we can switch gear without stepping the clutch when the engine is off, so I played the gear for severel round, i kept on stepping the clutch while playing with the gear, then the clutch suddenly released n got "feel" again, then i start the engine n switch to 1st gear, very luckily, the cluctch works again, PHEW.... n again, the clutch feel much lighter after dat....

So wat is the problem actually? Gear box? Clutch? Fly wheel?

I suspect dat my gear box got problem too, becoz when i switch to gear 3, there must be some sound like i din't step the clutch...

Anyone can help since my foreman cannot tell what's the problem...

My car is SGTI........

This post has been edited by DaViDcHiN: Jan 10 2008, 06:12 AM

Check your clutch pump if it's using a hydraulic system or the cable for freeplay and overall condition. Might be a good idea to take out the clutch pack for inspection too.

things to check....
clutch pump and slave
pressure plate
clutch bearing

Send to maddriver garage la....

The clutch has nothing to do with the engine they work independently.
In neutral clutch is Engage, once engine is running gear box will all spin together and when clutch is disengage, Fork push on bearing push and bearing push on pressure plate will seperate clutch plate from Fly Wheel, hence gearbox rotation is slow down.
If using hydraulic clutch pump, service the clutch masterpump, clutch pump and change the fluid it could be overheated hyraulic fluid or better remove gearbox to change all clutch assemblies.

clutch pedal u press very soft like no spring ?

if that 1 ~ should be ur clutch pump rosak only.

happen to me before

SGTI using clutch pedal cable or not?
If yes, check that as well.

over heat is't?

hmm this is very similar when my father waja clutch plate become 'haus'.

It happened suddenly and without notice and u cant engage any gear. the clutch pedal also feels very light. maybe its time to change ur clutch plate?

So r u asking me to check the whole clutch system?

clutch pump i heard b4, slave? I dun think my foremen will understand this, how to pronounce it in cantonese? "Gui Lei"??? -.-"

Mmmm... This is a good suggestion....

Overheat is defne as how? After the second police station, I only use second gear, n sometimes change to third gear as I can hear that the second gear has begun to "ask for help" as I pulled the gear 2 until 6k rpm for quite a long time....

er, so u change the clutch pump???


okok...

Over hear define as??? How?

I become so confuse ad, so many things to change, clutch pump, clutch plate...-.-"


***Well, if i change to another new clutch from Exedy, does it include everything that u guys mentioned like clutch pump, clutch plate, flywheel and etc???

Standard clutch replacement kit only comes with flywheel & clutch plate only. Some would include oil seals, some don't.

Yes i suggest that, you don't want to kill your gearbox because you didn't bother to get it checked properly. If your clutch plate overheated usually you'll get a strong burning smell and maybe smoke as well, but it won't overheat if it's not slipping.

No everything comes separate, there isn't a fixed kit so to say, you can buy each and every item individually.

Not flywheel but clutch cover.

best advice.. change to auto

a complete clutch kit, that is, all the parts that will be bolted on the flywheel are the pressure plate and the friction disc. the clutch bearing is attached on the imput shaft of the gearbox. the clutch master pump is that thing that u put the clutch pump fluid in. it's on the firewall of the engine bay. the clutch slave is that thing on the outside of the gearbox. btw, how are the pads?

it only happen during upill? how about downhill or normal road? is it because of clutch's fluid too low? so that's why when go uphill, it's like sometime fuel indicator showing fuel empty when go uphill when fuel tank level is low...

This post has been edited by swaichia: Jan 10 2008, 07:50 PM

Can this problem be fixed by changing clutch?

No burning smell at all, everything is normal, just dat the clutch suddenly jammed.

I love manual, thx for ur suggection...

Wow, so do u know what is my problem now, can fix or not?

The pads r EXCELLENT, 1st time went to Genting with ur pads, much better than my previous brake pad.

Yeah, only happen on up hill, 2 times oso occured while going up genting...

did u always use your clutch + accelerator to hold your car on slope?

should be able to fix, but might take some time.....................

yeah i also think should be checked on this matter when the clutch is jam...

Nope....never do that....

Tis incident happened to me b4 also, whn i almost reach Genting thn suddenly the clutch jammed, the clutch same like TS, got no feeling at all n i stop n let the engine n clutch rest awhile..haha but nthg diff after tat thn i juz ignore it la..juz drove it until genting..luckily is almost reach thr only happened. But the weird thg is...the next day i start my car, the clutch back to normal already..

And after tat incident, i went to check my car at car workshop n found tat the clutch pump bocor already n thn the mechanic help me to changed the clutch pump to the new 1 n after tat...no problem at all whn i go up to genting...rev the rmp til 6k also no problem...

Davidchin,
Looks like your problem is more on your clutch pressure plate than anywhere else. If your pump fails, it usually fails all the way and you would have to tow your car back from Genting. If it jams on the way up, this usually shows signs of clutch plate failure. In your case, there is nothing much can be fixed except to change to a better clutch pressure plate. The springs are not pulling your pressure plate off the clutch disc. Inspecting the clutch plate would mean taking out gearbox to view it. DId your mechanic do that? It's not an easy job and not likely to be free.

My clutch pump failed me just now only....dammit, had to park my car outside
Luckily nearby my hse can walk back >_>

I wonder if DavidChin's clutch problem had been fixed...
shinjite, ur clutch prob same as David's?

sgti using clutch pump

remmeber to change the bearing as well..

jz a suggestion... try flush and bleed ur clutch fluid first.... jammed as in cannot engage in any gears??... if the theory behind clutch fluid is same with brake fluid, i guess should be ur clutch fluid problem.... there is abit of air bubble trapped inside.... when u heats up the fluid, the tiny air bubble expands.... when clutch pump compresses the fluid, it compresses the air instead of directing the pressure to ur clutch... hence, disallowing u to engage in any gears.....