plug kong? how long u havent changed ur plugs?haha

r3 bodykit RM1k++??

please dont be misled...those are cheap imitation PU material...still wanna call it R3?

Original R3 material FRP(Fiber Reinforced Plastic) the bumper alone is RM1.3k++

its a shame when ure comparing original stuff to a cheap fake...haha

anyway yes the price for fake item is around that...if ur fren can get 700 with paint then thats damn cheap....

ya.. plug kong.. haha.. i tot it was the aircon or airfilter causing it..

omg.. it is really a shame.. thx for make things clear..
i dun mind putting fake bumper.. janji kreta rock,ok liao.. keke

can recommend me what thing nid to mod for my car?
currently got 4-2-1 extractor, k&n air filter and sport muffler..

plan to put fpr and the the large snorkel around next month..
wan to ask.. if i put the large snorkel.. i'm afraid that water,bugs,leaves,cacing will enter thru it.. scare later engine kong.. is it possible for it to happen?

bside fpr and large snorkel.. what should i mod?
i got saw 1 VS.. pivot raizin.. around rm170 it says good for the sparkplug.. and air compressor around rm150+-.. so worth it or not if i install it?

pivot raizin? overpriced stuff...zaptor gud enuff...still up to ur preference...

air compressor? no nid...

large snorkel got bugs etc? no lah its just the opening of the snorkel became bigger thats all...the air would still go thru ur airbox n filtered by ur k&n...

now ur engine got bugs meh?no right?

i mean.. i scare lubang besar.. later big bug can masuk ma..

no laahhhh
im using it travelling KL - Terengganu (3x a month)
KL - Seremban - KL (everyweek)
Gombak - Office (Damansara) <- bold one everyday wor
when cuci my filter, no bugs olso

This post has been edited by ahlong: Apr 10 2009, 03:51 PM

mengarut...ni yg malas nak layan ni

I don't really agree on Large Snorkel will helps on improving our campro engine performance....

Btw, i done research alot on on Short air ram with open pod air filter of the intake system... which only improve on high rpm and high end torque which is not suitable for our campro engine.... becoz what we need is improve on low end torque... for those who like pickup la.

I am thinking of the put the old waja airbox and fix it with our old cam tak pro engine.I notice that Old waja airbox is a short air ram design and it was also a drop in filter type. Its short air ram design help improve on high air flow going into the throttle body thus minimize heat from the engine and reduced air restriction.

High Air Flow (normal air temperature) + Correct Fuel Mixture = Engine running at Efficiency Condition.

Our current original air ram was long in length and U-turn type design which i dont really think its good design becoz the air velocity has been reduced due to the air that travel slow enough and causing air turbulence to enter the throttle body which is not good.

Seems that Old Waja Air Box is good combination of both worlds but i think there might be a problem. Too much air flow going into throttle body may causing the MAF ( Mass air flow sensor ) to give error sensor readings to the ECU thus delivering bad air fuel mixture on each rpm speed. U all know la, our Gen 2's ECU is quite dumb.

Anyone here who disagree with me and have better suggestion?

1. ure talking about MAF and ure complaining about the length of the standard intake?

2. what is with the 'cam tak pro' sh*t? if u hate the engine so much dump it sumwhere n get another jantung in lor...

3. Gen2 ECU dumb? i wonder

the large snorkel would at least add another 1hp n it is proven...pair it with a good drop in and u get a good intake already...bear in mind it's not the best setup for a certain condition but best performance overall...

oh well all my feedbacks are based on experience using a campro and driven a lot of modified campros...i've not done a long research or anything like that just pure opinions from a campro lover...never driven a 'cam tak pro' never heard that engine being manufactured n pity the ones who came out with the name...

Shazmn , Sorry to hurt your feelings. I was once a gen 2 lover but.... it quite disappointed me sometimes. Our Gen 2 has a lot of potential to be a race car only the engine part is not satisfying.

Actually i had worked at Speedworks at PJ here b4. They done a lot of modification to fit in a Turbo Unit into the Gen 2. Their Gen 2 turbo has failed many times .... as the original pistons can't take it and Kaboommmm !!! Its was just 0.3 bar psi.

I heard they said they changed new set pistons (its like EVO GSR Pistons , i don really remember) on the campro engine and others simple mods like cam pulleys, high performance cam shafts, AFC NEO, Hotbits open pod with short air ram, Hotbits full sets of exhaust system .... and etc. They really supportive on their own brand only. i really donno what Turbo unit they putting in ... But after their 3rd and 4th try on their Gen 2 ... they finally can maintain until 0.6 bar of psi of about 180hp. Seems that they done a fine job over there.

That's what i heard from one of their managers about their Gen 2 turbo.

Btw.... lets continue back to our topic, Can an Old Waja Air Box replace our original air ram for an increase of performance and FC reduction?

Anyone here has done that b4? What do other guys think?

'cam tak pro' pun still can smoke 325i....how aahh...???

for BOT u can call Xenon for further details...

This post has been edited by hazril: Apr 11 2009, 10:22 AM

I'm the one that have the waja airbox on my gen2, too bad i'm selling my Gen2now.

Below are the few reasons for me to replace gen2 standard airbox.
1) Less suction noise, the airbox is located far from firewall
2) Easier maintenance, no screws only clips and easier to access
3) Shorter airflow path
4) Less heat, as the airflow is far away from engine if compare to standard that run on top of engine and airbox sit on top of manifold.

What I got in return from waja airbox:
1) Better response
2) Easier servicing
3) Less lag when engine is hot

When you said about air volume to MAF sensor, you have to clearly define either it's in WOT (open loop) or Low throttle (close loop). During WOT ECU is getting the reading from MAF while during Low throttle ECU is getting reading from O2. Which means if during WOT there are more air entered to combustion chamber and ECU will allow more fuel as well. But as long the A/F ratio did not exceeded default figure in ECU you still able to enjoy the performance.

Hi guys.. i i plan to replace my Gen2 with Waja AirBox... how i want to move these thing (Mark with circle on the picture).. i notice that some gen2 does not have this thing

btw.. what is this thing....





here is the sample pic of waja air box,

This post has been edited by MaryGoRoundMusic: Apr 13 2009, 09:30 AM

Free Bumps for you Zenwarlord

Well, actually i still doing research on IAFM system normally used by proton persona and proton BLM saga. It gives good engine response and better Fuel Consumption too. I wonder can it be fit into my Gen 2 but i was looking for 2nd hand IAFM to try it out ..... because the new sets of IAFM cost me about RM800 ....some more i am a student, cant get student price ler ..... haih, no budget la.

Btw, is the Simota air filter good ?

hurt my feeling? nehhhh...

which part of the engine is not satisfying? did u know with a minimum amount of arouund 1.5k u could eliminate the campro lagg n fully improve ur campro?why need a turbo? silap2 gaya blok pecah

of course a waja airbox can replace gen2 airbox...few frens using it...heard good feedbacks but my current intake has served me well so i wouldnt bother on a waja airbox...

MaryGoRound - that is a something*canister*something like dat ...gen2 year 2005 until 2008 has been relocated to below...BUT for cps, iafm, persona etc they have put it back up there...

This post has been edited by shazmn: Apr 13 2009, 12:29 PM

Charcoal canister, every EFi car has it. Some gen.2 has it placed below the battery.

my gen2 ever tapau-ed city,vios n crv

omg.. now really confuse.. either to install waja airbox or gen2 airbox...

If the Waja airbox is cheap, then worth it. if buy new unit, not worth.

okie,thx for the info..
the price is around how much?

to me the simolta filter have very bad filter which i feel a lot of dust may escape from the air filter. K&N is always the wise choice else you may opt for UTR. I have 1 unit of UTR to let go at RM70 and used for 15k mileage (never being wash before).

what is UTR?

interested in car's stuff.. in learning process now XD