I normally use Office to do project on my Windows Vista. Now i'm changing to mac and dunno which one to choose. I know that Microsoft Office file can be read from iWork but iWork file cannot

and about the price iWork 08' is cheaper,right?

both only come for 1 license ka?

i only need Powerpoint (Keynote), Excel(Numbers), and Word(Pages).

so which one is worth the price? think to buy one of them end of this month.

TQ for helping

prefer use iWorks or Neooffice (if you using mac )

can Office 07' (Windows) open iWork format file? if can i choose iwork strait away

no. It only import. And the formating will be not the same. Mess up

If you serious with Office stuff, I suggest you have to use Office 08. Especially numbers, it is still not in advance level.

If you could change all of your offices (I mean real offices) softwares to NeoOffice or OpenOffice, then it will be great if you want to save cost.

If it is not, get Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac.

if for presentation, go for keynote (iwork 08)
word, go for openoffice

so, u can save money for not buying macoffice2008

but, if you have more budget, better get both...

but so far, i love keynote verymuch..
it helps me getting A s in couple of subjects...

one question,

open office format can be read from Microsoft Office ka? if can then i go with iWork

@Balok,
Yes.. Open Office can go with Office

One more vote for NeoOffice.

Open Office or NeoOffice is free ka?

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Added on January 6, 2008, 1:38 pmIC.... its free...... Lucky me google first and no one flame me yet

This post has been edited by Balok: Jan 6 2008, 01:38 PM

@Balok,
You lucky devil, you ! *grins* Yes it's FREE

it is open source. That's why it is FREE.. FREE!!!

so if between Open Office and NeoOffice is good enough then iWork for me

yeah! BTW iWork 08' Family Pack cost how much? the single license cost around 400-450 right?

iWork '08 Retail *New* MA790Z/A 339
iWork '08 Family Pack Retail *New* MA791Z/A 409

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Better get iWork 08, for other applications you can always use Neo Office which is fully compatible with MS Office.

yes...positive

When i tried the office. It's sluggish, slow, unintuitive. plus it's making my mac seriously very unpleasant to be used. Of course, some feature in office is nice while you dont get it with iwork.

I supposed the workflow and how efficient you can work is everyone's priority. iwork files can be made compatible to office and vise versa.

It's like taking itune in windows. same misery, different thing.

@shoguniphicus,
I been informed that's because Mac Office 2004 wasn't built for the Intel chipped Macs - it was meant for the predecessors. Am awaiting Mac Office 2008 as that should speed things up.

i am using 2008 beta...i am not happy with it at all...uses a lot of memories, to fancy and troublesome.too much buttons,..it is just not apple..BTW, it is a beta..no further comment...

Anyone who uses office seriously, and by that I mean requiring pin point formatting accuracy and other stuff from older documents / colleagues should stick to M$ Office. If you're in college / lite user, then give neo office a go. I love neo office, iwork is pretty but redundant.

@belango,
Y does Microsoft stuff alwiz need lots of power And how'd u get ur hands on a Beta version? *grins* Anyhow, let's hope it'll improve

i google for the beta and only found that i need to download via torrent

no Office 08' Beta at Apple Website

used it long time ago.. anyway the beta is not working anymore because office 2008 is coming soon (i m not sure if it is coming soon of it is already around...dont want to bother)...

@belango,
I see I see. It's expected to be out sometime in Q1 Y2008 if i'm not mistaken *shrugs*

Btw, it is "leaked" beta. That beta is for developer only. You surely can't find in Apple or Microsoft site la.

yea. Till now there no solution to bypass it except one. Tune back your date before it expires. Then you can continue use And hell slow le.. even it is UB application

MacWorld Exp should announce the release date

hehehe (i am laughing inside)

you got the actual crack mer? Well I don't bother that too. Final version is just around the corner

office.
just cause its compatible with other windows laptop.
since my colleagues are on windows, its just logical that i use something that everyone can read/use as well.
what would keynote be useful for (apart from the nice layout) if everytime u have to transfer it to a different comp and it messes up with the margins and stuff?

im on office 08.
but maybe one day i'll get keynote just for the sake of personal fulfillment.

Yes, i know that too. Till i have gotten my hands on the 2008 version. iWork is pretty much ahead. May be i will change my mind then after i try that out. ;p

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Added on January 19, 2008, 10:27 amYea, i agree on the part that keynote have the fancy stuff, and when exporting, a few problems will arise when opening it in ppt. That doesnt really annoy me, because a few tweaks will work for me. And those fancy stuff is always an eye opener when you are presenting in a crowd of pc.

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Added on January 19, 2008, 12:22 pmhttp://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.03/Office2008Benchmark/

Something for you to read on before choosing your side.

This post has been edited by shoguniphicus: Jan 19 2008, 12:23 PM

1 question,

when will Office 08' reach here? the same time with Macbook Air?

i'm vote Work 08' coz easy to use

Office 08 is out now, student edition is going for 600 RM +

I would get office b/c well...I've been using office for like the last 10 years and its the norm.

Am wondering if anyone know if there's 'FAMILY PACK' for Office 08? *grins*

Also, any current users? Any feedback?

Prefer office all the time. More convenient.

The student and teacher edition is RM619 ( For 3 users summore )
If u nid microsoft exchange server support, go for the standard pack (single user)

@BibirOn,
HmM.. student teacher edition? I should go check it out but why would I need 3 users?

3 users? i only have one mac

Just got me hands on Office 2008 - loading time is much much much faster compared to Office 2004 - GUI's improved and it's looking more Mac now.

Will just have to work with it for a while more before I can give more comments.

currently using power pc ibook, office 2008 works slow in my ibook... thinking of changing back to office 2004.

@jwho28m,
I somehow think Office 2004 would be more suitable for ur use, instead of or Office 2008. Speaking of which, how do u revert to Office 2004? Did u delete the previous files or did u just leave it on ur system during the installation of Office 2008?

i love iwork08,
but then i dun like the pages in iwork, it not really get on hand with it..
I love the keynotes...everytime presentation.. is my time to show my keynotes...hahhahaha

tried keynote oredi

damn cool

@tinkerbel,

during the office 08 installation, i had removed 04. now hav2 do the installation all over again.. cant thn the lag when using excel and word.

@balok,
i don't really know how to use keynote... first time experience give me like, wat's the diff with powerpoint? haha, i m an idiot in doing presentation.

people may say open office or iwork 08 work better, but i still prefer using microsoft 04, it's hard for my fren during compilation of our assignment, the margin will run, the effect wont shown... headache...

@jwho28,
Oh... It's a good thing I haven't deleted the Office 2004 of mine, don't have the installation disk on me *grins* Had better keep a copy now - shaites.. I hope I can find the Product Key though *oopS*

Keynote is not difficult to use but it will take some getting used to. Once you're familiar with it, it's like a breeze. And it sure looks better than powerpoint. At least, not so many people use it, so ur presentation would look a little more unique than the rest

oic.. mayb this CNY shud armed myself the technique of keynote so i can show off whenever there is a presentation.

Just reinstall my office 2004, everything went normal again. huuuuuu... dun worry, u sure find the product key. Every mac user should know where to find it. Lol.

@jwho28,
It's the Office 2004 product/license key leh! Ah well, but it does look like I will keep on using Office 2008

ibook? It's better you use office 2004 instead. Office 2008 got many "cool cool" animations and transparency as well. Apart of that, Office 2008 is optimum for Intel although it also support PPC as well. I doubt it wil be smooth in G4 machines.

Btw, it should automatically delete the previous installation files once you install Office 2008. I'm not too sure la cos I don't have office 2004, and never try too due to non-UB issue. Once I install the "retail" version of office 2008, it auto delete the office 2008 beta which I have installed

@allvin,
You do need to remove it but it's removed into 'Trash' so u should be able to retrieve it from Trash

For my case, it let me to choose delete or no delete. Of course they recommend u to delete it.

o.. the key, i have it.. but it still works on my ibook even though i didnt copy the key inside. may my "ahem" version is tat advance.. haha

Does this means that iwork files can't work with microsoft office on a pc?

@IvanKang,
It can work; u just need to save it in the correct format - U choose the option when u save the file

err... for my case, it is already "deleted". I'm not sure about office 2004 la. that 2008 beta auto-deleted. I don't see any at my trash and in application also none of 2008 beta.

@allvin,
I believe I had a choice of whether I wanted to remove Office 2004 or not; first time I didn't remove it and just went on to upgrade it but my files were still being opened by Office 2004, so I think I did a manual removal [perhaps that's Y it ended up in my trash] or well, i don't remember! *gulps*

What about keynote files, can it be saved in power point format.
Sorry for all the last minute question, last minute decision on either getting ms office 08 or iwork 08

it can be saved as ppt but it is "export". But some of the transition will not have and formatting will be the same in ppt version, that's the down side. If you are serious in offce work, i suggest you get office 2008 instead of iWork, especially you are using excel. iWork numbers is not mature yet. That's my opinion. Like pages in iWork, when you import/export microsoft word files, usually the formatting will be KO.

Hey guys,

I just wondering, does iWork'08 FULLY compatible with windows' WORD?
(which means, i can save as .doc in Pages, and open .doc in Windows, vice versa)

Planning to get a iWork..

Who is using Pages currect?

Thank you.

yes, you can save a Pages document in .doc format, and it will open in MS Word for Windows.

IIRC don't expect to get the full functions of editing and modifying that's available in MS Word 2008 for Mac and MS Word 2007 for Windows.

dude, u should read my above post la.



It is not FULL compatible, unless you don't mind about the formatting

Er.. If u just want users to view the file, save it pdf format, ur formatting will still be there; only fall back is the 'no edit allowed' problem! *grins*