I recently came to decide to get a Mac (actually two: iMac and MB), but couldnt decide on which virtualisation programme is better.

Each forums/reviews has its own preference . Thus, I'd like to hear from you all!

Thanks alot.

what can i say ....i used virtualbox.org , as the apps are running fine and no lagging


but if you have more RAM , 2 gig above ...just use either fusion or parallel

yea, iMac is 2Gb and MB is waiting to decide. So what do you think, Fusion or Parallels?

@daenvgiell, it depends on your likes. For me, I choose vmware over parallels. vmware can enable 2 cores of your processor, whereas parallels only use a single core. But vmware got downside as well, it don't have much cool features compare to parallels.

I suggest you go have a try on both of the softwares first.

you can try the demo version at apple website and decide for yourself

@kevler,
virtualbox.org? the beta one ka? i try use it but it does not respond la.

maybe it only works on Tiger , at this moment .

for Leopard ..u need to wait for sometimes ,as they are working on this matter .

p/s my MBP still running Tiger ...wargggghhhhh ( tiger's roar)

I've personally bought both and have stuck with VMware for several reasons.

- VMware tech support is more responsive
- VMware has the VMTN forums to ask/browse
- VMware Fusion has dual-core and 64-bit support
- VMware allows almost seamless transfer between their Mac OS, Windows and Linux products (VMware workstation/server/player) so it's easier for me to move back and forth from development on my Mac to testing/production on the Linux boxes.

Sounds good.

but it seems to me that it's not that popular in Malaysia. I called to several shops asking for it, but they have only Parallels.

Where did you purchase the fusion and how much?

Anybody tried gaming on their MacBook X3100 yet? Any luck?

finally someone did ask.

I try couple of games. Running good so far.

- Pro Street (once enable smoke effect, direct kena BSOD )
- Dawn of War (Running wild with it. A lit bit Lag during the fighting effects)
- WC3 (no need to tell la, even Pentium3 machine can run smoothly Both mac and win running wildly)
- Live for Speed (running wild as well )

All the above, i set in native resolution (1280x800). Pro street got abit lag if set higher but it can't enable smoke effect and Antialiasing. Later I might want to test oblivion out. So far so good, I happy with x3100. It performs quite well than I expected.

Btw, Crysis won't work Hope the final x3100 driver release soon. Currently it is only beta.

oredi have pro street ka for mac? or you use VM to play at windows?

i havent tried parallels yet.. but of all the reviews i read out there really seems to favor parallels..

just another word for macbook gaming, don even try to run war-based shooting like cod2.. i run 640x480 also fps only <5

but for rpg, strategy, fps not based on war (like halo, cs runs fine)



This post has been edited by vetkin_gray: Jan 4 2008, 07:17 PM

why most ppl think mac version and using VM to play? Btw, there are no mac version for most recent games. That's the truth. That's why we still need "TINGKAP" VM CANNOT PLAY GAME LA, just can play oldschool games. AIDUH... Running in windows alone already quite lag lo and you still thinking of running in VM?

Btw, your macbook is x3100 or GMA950? If GMA950, you don't bother about playing games. Pro Street can't run in GMA950 btw

x3100

so far the games that ive tested are gta:sa, rct3, civ4, halo

all running perfectly at either 800x600 or 1024x768 with low-med settings

oh yeah, i use xp and using the latest x3100 xp driver v14.31

This post has been edited by vetkin_gray: Jan 4 2008, 07:46 PM

Favour parallels? But the reviews in apple.com and macworld.com say otherwise....

oh.. those games i didn't test it and also not my liking. I think GTA:SA no problem right? and Halo surely no problem. For Halo, it is better to use mac version Got problem also Halo2. I play mostly racing game, and Pro Street good for me in 1280x800 resolution. I just have to disable the world effects and stuff. The car model can go high without lag, i think roughly 20-25fps. If lower down resolution, can get better fps

Buy it online. I bet you with the current exchange rates the online store is cheaper than most retail stores. I paid US$40 each during promos.

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Added on January 4, 2008, 11:40 pmActually why not download your own evaluation copy and try it out on your own. Don't just believe LYN or review comments especially when the eval/demo is available.


This post has been edited by tishaban: Jan 4 2008, 11:40 PM

if i buy any parallels or WMWare Fusion can install on more than 1 Mac right?

Yea, i've been meaning to ask that too. Anyone knows?

I wouldn't know about WMWare, but VMWare I'm sure it's one license per purchase. Can you install your Windows license on multiple PCs? Sure you can. Who's going to come after you? Not our police.

But then it wouldnt be genuine and I might have problems in registering the programmes and getting updates, no?

no problem 1. The updates is usually download the whole darn thing, .dmg. So you need to reinstall or upgrade it. Another thing is if u using P version, just get the serial and you ready to go. Again, it is not right la for P version.

erm....P version? What's that?

He probably meant the ahem version.

p version, ahem version oh .........

185 viewed this page but only 9 ppl voted?!

PLEASE VOTE!! PLEASE VOTE!! PLEASE VOTE!!

i haven't vote yet.

still testing which is better.

BTW TS have you buy any Mac yet?

TS? me?

Well, already ordered my iMac 2.4 , and its on its way. Should be here next week. Hence got all so excited and bugging u guys here with all my silly questions.

but I need a laptop too. and MB is expensive in Europe. So will get it as soon as I get bc to Msia. but.....there are news circulating that a new 12" MBP will be announced. and that is the exact size I want from MB. Nway, will see what's going on on 15 Jan.

This post has been edited by daenvgiell: Jan 5 2008, 07:51 AM

din vote since havent tried parallels yet.. and lazy to try parallels.. i think both have their own pros and cons.. y not you google the reviews out there? they do have in-depth analysis and comparison on both.

i dont think its a problem if getting a "P" version.. just get it again when there's a new update.. but i dont recommend ppl who own a company using "P" version, u'd get into some serious trouble.

Btw, please don't think about MBP component on 12". It will never happen due to over-heating and power consumption. And if u want it to be slimmer somemore, dedicated graphic card cannot go in. In other words, it will be ultra-low end of MB. I suggest you get MBP if you are into graphic work environment.

yea.. it is a MUST to get a legal copy. For home usage, how cares..

Can someone explain what are P version and ahem version please?

lol, P version and ahem version are the same thing... poor you don understand what we're saying..

i m using ahem versions on my macbook GMA950...
both parallel n fusion....but i am happy with fusion after few months and i uninstalled parallel...
although there are some features that parallel has which fusion has not...

it means Pirated la.. Illegal copies.. Get it?

Yea.. Parallels features like read/write your vhdd without booting in your virtualization software and it allows to open either mac application or windows application.

Ah, I see. the P - Pirated version...but I had a few bad experience with pirated softwares and it's such a turn off, kind of worry.

So with fusion or parallels, one software for only one Mac right?

i haven't see any ahem ahem version software for mac

yes, but it depends again... for me, i use leopard 99% n window 1% (transfer files to friends' ext HDD (NTFS format))...so i dont need parallel features that much...on top of that, vm startup is faster than parallel...

i try as much as i can to avoid windows..huhu...(bill gates ciplak all the GUI from mac back then)

actually , from what i know , Bill Pagar get his idea for GUI ,from Xerox company. At that time , Apple Lisa still lack of icon.

Below is the Xerox desktop




above of all , Bill Pagar still copy-cat other ppl's masterpiece .

This post has been edited by kevler: Jan 6 2008, 11:46 AM

How come change topic oredi?

BTW i know alot about GUI war from directory Pirates Of Silicon Valley and Triumph Of The Nerds

yea.. but you need to know that. What we now living, most of the things are copies then improve it. Copy-cat is one of the art skill. If you know what i mean..

PS: I not siding on Bill Pagar.

hey, im using parallels now.. i think parallels really suits my needs.. for example i only use XP for playing games.. so whenever i've downloaded games from the internet with mac os transmission, i'll need to transfer the setup files to XP hard drive.. cause parallels has this thing called Explorer that allows you to write to XP HD without actually booting XP

parallels also has this thing called SmartSelect thingy that allows you to open xp files with mac applications and vice versa.. i need this since the wmplayer for mac is not fully supported to open certain wmv videos.. so i need to use wmp for win to open certain videos located in my mac HD

so my recommendation is this, if you rarely use you XP for doing documents, etc (stuff only windows can do), u should use parallels.. if u do though, consider fusion since fusion runs faster(2x faster than parallels since it can support multi processors) but it cannot do the things i've mentioned above though.

also, i do know that parallels cant support bluetooth,win aero glass, 3d not so good.. but hey, i've already got the best OS in the world, y would i need to run Win to do stuffs like bluetooth, webcam for me? the only thing really worth to get win for me is because i get to play games that suc in mac

i hope this gives you an idea on which one to use.

good artists copy
great artists steal

last year i'm argued with my friends cause our artwork nearly looks the same.

BTW better put pros and cons between Parallel and VMWare Fusion so any newbies don't get confuse easily

it depends on how you want to use it....

i suggest install both trial version and test them by yourselves

yea, might do so. but isnt that the final released version has so much of upgrade from the trial?

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Added on January 7, 2008, 8:43 pmBtw, can anyone suggest the lowest price and the best place to get Parallels and/or Fusion please?

This post has been edited by daenvgiell: Jan 7 2008, 08:43 PM

So based on the comments so far, get Parallels if I'm thinking of playing games on my Mac and Fusion if I prefer other mundane stuffs?

Called to several apple resellers, no one sells Fusion. Does anyone know where can I get it? and how much?

vote for Desktop Parallels 3.0

You can always buy direct from vmware.com. Search for coupon codes on Google and you can get $10 off. "Diggnation" coupon code should still work. Try it at checkout.

we have the educational version of Parallels 3.0. If you are interested, please let me know. Condition apply to:
must send student ID and also email for verification. only limited to first 100 students or teachers.

Educational price for parallel 3.0 is RM199.00

what is so good about the latest parallels 3.0( check out the link below.)

http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/

This post has been edited by sonnettech-asia: Jan 29 2008, 11:37 PM

hi guys..i juz installed windows xp using parallel in my mb..da probs is that i cant activate my xp..it said that there is no internet connection during the activation process..but at da same time i can browse internet using IE n even can watch streaming tv but some website it took a very long time to open..is there a problem in da setting of da network??..for ur information, i am using shared networking during parallel..so can some one help me out with this probs??..thanks..