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post Dec 4 2007, 07:55 AM, updated 18y ago

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As of 3 December 2007, DJIA closed the day with:

13,314.57 -57.15 -0.43%
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post Dec 4 2007, 08:00 AM

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Record close for KL Composite Index

PETALING JAYA: The KL Composite Index (KLCI) leapt to a new high yesterday, with sustained interest in newly-listed Sime Darby Bhd and a potential re-rating on blue chip laggard Tenaga Nasional Bhd (TNB) providing the market with a major boost.

The benchmark index was also bolstered by Telekom Malaysia Bhd's sharp gain to its highest level in almost three years. Top banking stocks Malayan Banking Bhd and Public Bank Bhd also contributed to the index rise.

The 100-strong KLCI gained 22.36 points, or 1.6%, to 1,419.34 yesterday - its highest closing level ever. The index hit an intra-day record of 1,423.81 on Nov 1 this year.

However, the broader market was in a sombre mood, with the lack of fresh leads to spur buying interest from retail investors.

Rising stocks edged decliners 416 to 406 with 279 counters unchanged. Total market volume stood at 858 million shares valued at RM1.8bil.

The FTSE Bursa Malaysia Small Cap Index, which tracks the performance of main board stocks outside the top 100 companies, slipped 0.04% to 11,788 points.

"The focus is on quality counters, as investors are getting cautious about their outlook on equities with so many uncertainties around,'' a dealer at a local brokerage said.

Sime Darby, the enlarged conglomerate listed last Friday, gained 50 sen to RM11.50. The group, which is the most valuable company on Bursa Malaysia, is a "must have" for portfolio managers tracking the performance of the KLCI.

Rising stock prices - yesterday's gain added to the KLCI's six-day winning streak - also strengthened the ringgit by 0.2% to 3.355 yesterday against the US dollar.

Meanwhile, shares in TNB received a boost yesterday on positive comments by the Second Finance Minister, and the perception that the utility firm was undervalued at current prices.

Despite TNB's 45 sen advance yesterday to RM9.70, the stock remained 11% lower for the year. To compare, the KLCI had risen 29% over the past 11 months.

According to Bloomberg's data, 90% of 30 analysts who tracked TNB rated the stock a "buy", with 20% to 30% upside potential from yesterday's closing price.

TNB had also proposed to lift the 25% voting cap for foreign shareholders, and this could boost the stock's appeal in the longer run.

Elsewhere, investors' sentiment remained fragile despite the country's economy growing at a faster rate than expected and strong quarterly earnings reported by local companies in the recently-concluded third-quarter results reporting season.

The recent spike in share prices are also likely to attract some profit taking in the coming days.

Elsewhere in the region, the equity markets were mixed yesterday with main barometers rising in Hong Kong, Australia, India, Singapore and Indonesia but were lower in Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and Thailand.

Crude oil price stayed below US$89 per barrel ahead of the US trading session yesterday. With crude oil on the retreat from near US$100 per barrel, traders expect price of crude palm oil (CPO) to fall in tandem.

The benchmark CPO futures contract traded on Bursa Derivatives narrowed earlier sharp losses to close at RM2,926 per tonne, down RM4 yesterday.

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...22&sec=business
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post Dec 4 2007, 08:27 AM

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How to pin this?
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post Dec 4 2007, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 4 2007, 08:27 AM)
How to pin this?
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yeah, dreams_achiever reporting-in.... rclxms.gif
time to sell stocks? DJ closed in RED
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:05 AM

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these days investing in shares is a struggle.
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 09:05 AM)
these days investing in shares is a struggle.
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Yeah....but the problem is can't stop playing stock market
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:09 AM

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wow congratz, new thread, new start! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 4 2007, 09:08 AM)
Yeah....but the problem is can't stop playing stock market
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yeah..... it surely is addictive
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 09:09 AM)
wow congratz, new thread, new start! biggrin.gif
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Hopefully.....last month really a struggle....just between breakeven or manage to get profit from some, while some still losing
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TENAGA is having difficulty to break 10.00 and go above it

need some more news to push it up perhaps unsure.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 09:10 AM)
yeah..... it surely is  addictive
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withdrawn all the credit in the account..... then you can see cannot click..
hahaha.
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Dec 4 2007, 09:15 AM)
withdrawn all the credit in the account..... then you can see cannot click..
hahaha.
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So, that's the solution to curb the addiction laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 4 2007, 09:08 AM)
Yeah....but the problem is can't stop playing stock market
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 09:10 AM)
yeah..... it surely is  addictive
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definitely addicted.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 09:17 AM)
So, that's the solution to curb the addiction  laugh.gif
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If like this better don't see, we need to play real thing ma
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Anyone know Air Asia exercise any option today? i see a sudden drop from 1.9x to 1.3x

Found it
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Company Name : AIRASIA BERHAD 
Stock Name  : AIRASIA
Date Announced : 30/11/2007

Subject : AIRASIA- EMPLOYEES' SHARE OPTION SCHEME ("SCHEME")


Contents :

Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Company's additional 870,600 new ordinary shares of RM0.10 each issued pursuant to the Scheme will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Tuesday, 4 December 2007


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post Dec 4 2007, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 AM)
If like this better don't see, we need to play real thing ma
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wah....completely swallowed by the market laugh.gif

btw, how much did you get Resorts? 3 wks ago, it was reported that "one day" Genting might take over it. True or not is left to be seen but it was not denied.


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Anyone know Air Asia exercise any option today? i see a sudden drop from 1.9x to 1.3x
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Mana ada? AASIA & AIRASIA is different counter. tongue.gif

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Aeon Credit sees over subscription of 25.5x

KUALA LUMPUR: Aeon Credit Service (M) Bhd saw an over-subscription by 25.2 times for its public issue of six million shares for the Malaysian public.

A total of 36,317 applications were received for 157,211,900 shares, Malaysian Issuing House said in a statement.

The company, en route to a main board listing, made an offer for sale of 20 million existing ordinary shares and a public issue of 22 million new shares of 50 sen each at an offer price of RM2.50 a share. - Bernama

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Haha... stupidly i go bursa and i thought i found it... haha you really know what counter im looking at... need more coffeeeeeeee tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:36 AM

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post Dec 4 2007, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 4 2007, 09:33 AM)
Aeon Credit sees over subscription of 25.5x

KUALA LUMPUR: Aeon Credit Service (M) Bhd saw an over-subscription by 25.2 times for its public issue of six million shares for the Malaysian public.

A total of 36,317 applications were received for 157,211,900 shares, Malaysian Issuing House said in a statement.

The company, en route to a main board listing, made an offer for sale of 20 million existing ordinary shares and a public issue of 22 million new shares of 50 sen each at an offer price of RM2.50 a share. - Bernama
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so have you got it? laugh.gif


QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Dec 4 2007, 09:34 AM)
Haha... stupidly i go bursa and i thought i found it... haha you really know what counter im looking at... need more coffeeeeeeee tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:43 AM

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why you so emo about the market being red today?
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ya lor, no need to be emo

unless she bought ALOT on yesterday rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 4 2007, 09:43 AM)
why you so emo about the market being red today?
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yesterday not so RED.
Expected this coming Wednesday will be more RED
coz many reports on housing markets, employment markets and etc will coming out.
Be careful on these few days. Good day to punt market will be on this Thursday onwards... cool2.gif
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Red today. Expected i guess after yesterday's all green.
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Dec 4 2007, 09:46 AM)
yesterday not so RED.
Expected this coming Wednesday will be more RED
coz many reports on housing markets, employment markets and etc will coming out.
Be careful on these few days. Good day to punt market will be on this Thursday onwards... cool2.gif
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11-Dec would be FED meeting
everyone is positive that FED will have another round of rate cut
so i guess good day to punt market is a day before the FED meeting rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 09:28 AM)
wah....completely swallowed by the market laugh.gif

btw, how much did you get Resorts? 3 wks ago, it was reported that "one day" Genting might take over it. True or not is left to be seen but it was not denied.
I forgot jor....Got it right after they split, then add in more, then after that sell some off to get profit. Should be around 3.7-3.8 range
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 4 2007, 09:52 AM)
I forgot jor....Got it right after they split, then add in more, then after that sell some off to get profit. Should be around 3.7-3.8 range
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Did you all notice that those penny stock keep dropping like no tomorrow?
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 4 2007, 09:55 AM)
Did you all notice that those penny stock keep dropping like no tomorrow?
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yes, that usually is expected when overall market sentiment is not that good with thin volume. They need a lot of volume to push their price up. If volume 1.5b-2b a day, they usually run up. These days is a far cry. Most investors are staying sideline.
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Did anyone still have ComIntel?

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:06 AM)
Did anyone still have ComIntel?
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hehe you have been asking the same question since yesterday
tempted to go in & buy yah brows.gif
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Hubline coming back to life?
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See LionDiv and Parkson goes up really fast these few days...
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Hubline coming back to life?
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should be a techinical rebounding, afterall it has been dropping from 0.7x to 0.5x

same goes to my DATAPRP (i oso dunno why i buy this doh.gif )

dropped from the peak, 0.8xx to 0.4xx now, and today looks like a rebounding too
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 09:51 AM)
11-Dec would be FED meeting
everyone is positive that FED will have another round of rate cut
so i guess good day to punt market is a day before the FED meeting  rolleyes.gif
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I remember last time when FED announced cut red...I kena kao kao in bursa.... blink.gif
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equine also moving... blink.gif
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QUOTE(foxjingbaby @ Dec 4 2007, 10:21 AM)
I remember last time when FED announced cut red...I kena kao kao in bursa.... blink.gif
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yahlor i remember that day
U.S up, but our market down, WTH!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:20 AM)
should be a techinical rebounding, afterall it has been dropping from 0.7x to 0.5x

same goes to my DATAPRP (i oso dunno why i buy this  doh.gif  )

dropped from the peak, 0.8xx to 0.4xx now, and today looks like a rebounding too
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You seem to have some stock that rebound 50% and some which reduced in value by 50% too...
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QUOTE(KingRichard @ Dec 4 2007, 10:22 AM)
equine also moving...  blink.gif
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EQUINE is punter's favourite
once it go up, can go up till 3.xx whistling.gif
another GE favourite counter too
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:23 AM)
You seem to have some stock that rebound 50% and some which reduced in value by 50% too...
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pathetic ain't i sweat.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:25 AM)
EQUINE is punter's favourite
once it go up, can go up till 3.xx  whistling.gif
another GE favourite counter too
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maybe time to buy some of these election stocks? KUB anyone?

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QUOTE(KingRichard @ Dec 4 2007, 10:30 AM)
maybe time to buy some of these election stocks? KUB anyone?
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the legendary Kaunter Untung Banyak (KUB) laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:26 AM)
pathetic ain't i sweat.gif
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many of us are pathetic here too... sweat.gif doh.gif
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You sure?
12months low 0.3600
Now still 0.8xx
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:23 AM)
yahlor i remember that day
U.S up, but our market down, WTH!
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ya hor, we together buy bursa both warrent de hor tongue.gif....
Really not so positive le shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 10:34 AM)
many of us are pathetic here too... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Im the most pathetic la...
Everytime I sold, the stock sure goes up one.

PetroChina same, HSI-C1 same, Sinopec same...
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:36 AM)
You sure?
12months low 0.3600
Now still 0.8xx
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which counter are you referring to?
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QUOTE(foxjingbaby @ Dec 4 2007, 10:37 AM)
ya hor, we together buy bursa both warrent de hor tongue.gif....
Really not so positive le shakehead.gif
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i am about to throw my BURSA & GAMUDA CW in the another week or two
going in at the wrong time, got stucked sad.gif
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:37 AM)
Im the most pathetic la...
Everytime I sold, the stock sure goes up one.

PetroChina same, HSI-C1 same, Sinopec same...
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Kapitan, next time ah, u tell me what stock u selling..I wil buy the same stock.. it will go up and I wil give 30% of my profit to you leh.. icon_idea.gif hehehehe
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Dec 4 2007, 10:41 AM)
Kapitan, next time ah, u tell me what stock u selling..I wil buy the same stock.. it will go up and I wil give 30% of my profit to you leh.. icon_idea.gif  hehehehe
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:37 AM)
Im the most pathetic la...
Everytime I sold, the stock sure goes up one.

PetroChina same, HSI-C1 same, Sinopec same...
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Same here, u are not the only one... tongue.gif
maybe influence by fear of losing
it's true me...that's why let go so fast... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:48 AM)
CHEUNGK-C1  brows.gif
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you bought, is it? Its going up
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:48 AM)
CHEUNGK-C1  brows.gif
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Gone up like 5cents in past 2 days...
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 10:49 AM)
you bought, is it? Its going up
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it has been going up for days, i have observed it from 0.17x till now

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 11:51 AM)
it has been going up for days, i have observed it from 0.17x till now
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Alot ppl queuing to dispose this CW already... careful guys... might become the victim heheh brows.gif
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wow

CHEUNGK-C1, another 0.005 up
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Equine safe to play?
I mean it drop from Rm5 to now RM2.07
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:59 AM)
Equine safe to play?
I mean it drop from Rm5 to now RM2.07
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low is 0.40 only. Now, already up 0.22 is taking a big risk. You intend to buy?
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Now RM2.10
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 10:59 AM)
Equine safe to play?
I mean it drop from Rm5 to now RM2.07
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flying up like rocket
fast in fast out, if wan to play
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futures:-9

maybe tonight Dow can close green
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noticed one thing

for EQUINE, the number of ppl queue to buy & sell is so little, what does it mean?

ppl holding & not plan to sell yet? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 11:03 AM)
futures:-9

maybe tonight Dow can close green
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a tad earlier to justify now tongue.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 11:03 AM)
noticed one thing

for EQUINE, the number of ppl queue to buy & sell is so little, what does it mean?

ppl holding & not plan to sell yet?  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 11:03 AM)
noticed one thing

for EQUINE, the number of ppl queue to buy & sell is so little, what does it mean?

ppl holding & not plan to sell yet?  unsure.gif
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not sure. Maybe someone is selling little by little & their partner buying them out to create a bullish impression so that to lure people like us to buy?
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Now nothing to buy....

You guys buy Satang b4?
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Digi up & down fast. Now -1.15
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Now nothing to buy....

You guys buy Satang b4?
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 11:11 AM)
Digi up & down fast. Now -1.15
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yah i noticed that, too
the price tends to rebound when it reach 23.xx rolleyes.gif
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Mr Li darling up again....
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Mr Li darling up again....
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genting very strong.... after special dividen 30cents still going up... 15cents.....
good keep going upward.... please.....


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darling IOI still not sampai 6.50 kah?? faster lah.
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hold on... at 6.75... i already lose my shirt and pan already..... on IOICorp..... if going down more.... my under garment also missing loh.

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I already sold on 6.90, bought at 7.15 ...
Loss RM600 there...
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genting very strong.... after special dividen 30cents still going up... 15cents.....
good keep going upward.... please.....


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hold on... at 6.75... i already lose my shirt and pan already..... on IOICorp..... if going down more.... my under garment also missing loh.
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JOJOE, u take in at 6.70 is it?

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JOJOE, u take in at 6.70 is it?
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i take in 2000@7.15 and 1000@6.65
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i take in 2000@7.15 and 1000@6.65
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Anyone know what happen to BOC-C1?
The price been dropping since last week..
DJI go up also this counter still dropping
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Anyone know what happen to BOC-C1?
The price been dropping since last week..
DJI go up also this counter still dropping
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i also wish to know
been seeing it coming down drastically
could it due to maturity date is near? unsure.gif
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Added on December 4, 2007, 12:53 pmthe candlestick version

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looks like no sign of rebounding

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i also wish to know
been seeing it coming down drastically
could it due to maturity date is near?  unsure.gif
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Maturity Date same as Sinopec-C1 31 Jan 2008
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Anyone know what happen to BOC-C1?
The price been dropping since last week..
DJI go up also this counter still dropping
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I believe its because Temasek is selling off their mother share. Over 1 bil shares I believe. Mother shares also dropping like a rock since the news of Temaseks action.

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i cant comprehend the diagram, it is an uptrend?

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i cant comprehend the diagram, it is an uptrend?

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looks like its moving sideways now after recent run-up... hmm.gif
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i cant comprehend the diagram, it is an uptrend?

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until it breaks the previous high of around 0.49, only can confirm it is an uptrend, otherwise it is under consolidate phase of a 'flag' pattern.
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looks like its moving sideways now after recent run-up...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 4 2007, 02:31 PM)
until it breaks the previous high of around 0.49, only can confirm it is an uptrend, otherwise it is under consolidate phase of a 'flag' pattern.
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i see!

yah the recent high was 0.49, and then it drop to 0.41
and slowly moving up again

no wonder my source tell me the best price to get in is around 0.41+/- rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 4 2007, 01:37 PM)
Anyone know what happen to BOC-C1?
The price been dropping since last week..
DJI go up also this counter still dropping
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me la.... bodoh pergi beli. buy at 0.075...think it is cheap so buy

now,,,,,, cry.gif vmad.gif mad.gif
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me la.... bodoh pergi beli. buy at 0.075...think it is cheap so buy

now,,,,,, cry.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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My fren, if u cant hold, just cut loss... Its better now than never...

An expiring call warrant will eat u out.. I kena in genting-cc few months ago.. in august.. I lost almost RM5k in that stupid thrash alone..

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me la.... bodoh pergi beli. buy at 0.075...think it is cheap so buy

now,,,,,, cry.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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When the price go down to 0.075, I also think it's cheap considering the price always around 0.085 - 0.10 from week before, but now is around 0.050 - 0.065 sad.gif
but there still a lot of buyers queue for this counter
don't know what they're waiting for... rebound perhaps hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 4 2007, 04:23 PM)
When the price go down to 0.075, I also think it's cheap considering the price always around 0.085 - 0.10 from week before, but now is around 0.050 - 0.065  sad.gif
but there still a lot of buyers queue for this counter
don't know what they're waiting for... rebound perhaps  hmm.gif
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it down bcos boc increased interest rates in china. after i brought it, just realised.late already.........
:furio shakehead.gif us:
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maybulk up liao
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Anyone know what happen to BOC-C1?
The price been dropping since last week..
DJI go up also this counter still dropping
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BOC share price currently is 4.06. Exercise price is 4.18. convertion ratio 1:2. Expiry date 31/01/08/ so about 1 month plus to 'play' only.

At Rm0.06, it mean HKD 0.14

so you cost = 0.14 + 4.18 = 4.32. It is still trading at premium. If mothershare is not moving much, BOC-C1 will be out of money. So only bet if you believe its share will go beyond HKD 4.32.


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QUOTE(Jim @ Dec 4 2007, 03:50 PM)
I got some maybulk also, anyone know why it suddenly dropped so much these few days? isit because of the oil price again?
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It lastest Q financial result is below most investment house estimation.


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IOI dropin.... y?? no money to keep them...
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IOI dropin.... y?? no money to keep them...
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IOI can drop further I think...
Right now exceeding 20x PE and in times like this, lower PE safer...
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Anyone can point me where can check HK CW mothershare website?
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Anyone can point me where can check HK CW mothershare website?
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Actually you can check almost every share price on Yahoo!

Just go to Yahoo Finance then type the share full name in QUOTE search and then the list of names will pops out and choose the stock exchange.
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They are not oil, but fabricator nia...

Kencana, Ramunia, Scomi up but Sapcres down...
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 05:16 PM)
Actually you can check almost every share price on Yahoo!

Just go to Yahoo Finance then type the share full name in QUOTE search and then the list of names will pops out and choose the stock exchange.
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Thanks Kapitan. I did use yahoo as my reference but i found it hard to check due to all the A, B and H share listing.
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KLSE has very low volume lately. Up to now, today's volume only 0.6 Billion shares. Even with those HK CW actively traded, volume still so low. This is really a worrying sign. Really got no idea what is going on with our market.

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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Dec 4 2007, 04:25 PM)
Thanks Kapitan. I did use yahoo as my reference but i found it hard to check due to all the A, B and H share listing.
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Well, if you want a useful reference for the premium, look at this site... a bit slow but up-to-date everyday and hour.

http://www.editgrid.com/user/kenlim88/HK-M...IST_Ver1.0?ro=1


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is our market coming back from today?
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I think will be green... look out for some stock that suddenly turned very green at the final 5 mins...


Added on December 4, 2007, 4:30 pmAwwww....

EQUINE @ 2.25, I was tempted at 2.07 at noon close.

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 4 2007, 04:28 PM)
Well, if you want a useful reference for the premium, look at this site... a bit slow but up-to-date everyday and hour.

http://www.editgrid.com/user/kenlim88/HK-M...IST_Ver1.0?ro=1


Added on December 4, 2007, 4:29 pm

I think will be green... look out for some stock that suddenly turned very green at the final 5 mins...


Added on December 4, 2007, 4:30 pmAwwww....

EQUINE @ 2.25, I was tempted at 2.07 at noon close.
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yeap before i take action i alway go to Mr. Kenlim88 to check first and do some other basic research like futures and news.

btw just bought little bit of HSBC-C1 @0.025 heheh hope wont go further down.!!! pray notworthy.gif pray notworthy.gif pray notworthy.gif ... ti gong cool.gif ti gong cool.gif
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actuallyi sold mine already...buy at 11.50, sold at 11.50..lol. laugh.gif
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1st Quarter EPS 30cents, trading at 60cents only.
something's not right... or is it a super bargain deal?
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yeap before i take action i alway go to Mr. Kenlim88 to check first and do some other basic research like futures and news.

btw just bought little bit of HSBC-C1 @0.025 heheh hope wont go further down.!!! pray notworthy.gif  pray notworthy.gif  pray notworthy.gif ... ti gong  cool.gif  ti gong  cool.gif
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Don't mean to pour cold water, it will go to 0.005 as it worth nothing currently. It will expire early of January so Dec is the last month.
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Dec 4 2007, 04:53 PM)
Hey! i got kaki SIME! hahah
actuallyi sold mine already...buy at 11.50, sold at 11.50..lol. laugh.gif
dun mind losing the brokerage fee....will get back in again when it dips further..
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Bah, I queued @ 10.80, tomorrow queue again
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got bit rebounce...not bad...tongue.gif
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Don't mean to pour cold water, it will go to 0.005 as it worth nothing currently. It will expire early of January so Dec is the last month.
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dun play with stocks which near to expiry

jim, try to get out from it whenever is possible sweat.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 05:03 PM)
that is scary  sweat.gif
dun play with stocks which near to expiry 

jim, try to get out from it whenever is possible  sweat.gif
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Unless HSBC mothershare goes beyond around HKD152, then only HSBC-C1 start to 'in money'. Current HSBC closing price is HKD132.30
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Thanks pana, cherroy for the advices

Yeah i know the risk of this one... planning to FIFO (Fast In Fast Out) also. Not dumping alot $$ into this just see if possible TGIF. This wekeendthis simply speculation tongue.gif BIG or SMALL. Tomorrow will throw this CW. My style for now abit similar to andy heheh but looking at fundamental stock right now as well.


By the way as what cherroy observed last week, someone is playing the market. Before it end you will notice some stock being push up by one point by 1 lots only. seems like they want it to end up higher... look better on tomorrow , maybe?

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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 4 2007, 05:00 PM)
anybody knows about this company?
MALAYSIA PACIFIC CORP BHD

Symbol & Code : MPCORP (6548)

1st Quarter EPS 30cents, trading at 60cents only.
something's not right... or is it a super bargain deal?
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The EPS 30cents came about after a revaluation surplus of RM58 million from its office building and shoplots. Without this pure accounting tactics its EPS would be around -1.88cents and a negative capital (90cents out of every dollar)

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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Dec 4 2007, 04:45 PM)
yeap before i take action i alway go to Mr. Kenlim88 to check first and do some other basic research like futures and news.

btw just bought little bit of HSBC-C1 @0.025 heheh hope wont go further down.!!! pray notworthy.gif  pray notworthy.gif  pray notworthy.gif ... ti gong  cool.gif  ti gong  cool.gif
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may I know what is Kenlim88?
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here you go Mr. KenLim88

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proton now is around RM3.90..issit worth for me to buy?

this is because i predict proton shares will be up maybe to RM4.50 to RM5 when the new proton saga with CPS+VIM engine launched next year hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Dec 4 2007, 08:52 PM)
proton now is around RM3.90..issit worth for me to buy?

this is because i predict proton shares will be up maybe to RM4.50 to RM5 when the new proton saga with CPS+VIM engine launched next year hmm.gif
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i took it @3.64
it sort of cover all my other losses sweat.gif

edit :
not sure it will go to 5
but im targeting to exit @ between 4.44 to 4.54 depending on the changes

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Dec 4 2007, 08:52 PM)
proton now is around RM3.90..issit worth for me to buy?

this is because i predict proton shares will be up maybe to RM4.50 to RM5 when the new proton saga with CPS+VIM engine launched next year hmm.gif
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u will get ur answer if u see others ctr price chart which facin d same problem last time...
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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Dec 4 2007, 08:35 PM)
here you go Mr. KenLim88
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he makes our job easier biggrin.gif

no one update DJIA ah (all dun care about it liao, unless it is a big drop or big surge) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:43 PM)
he makes our job easier biggrin.gif

no one update DJIA ah (all dun care about it liao, unless it is a big drop or big surge) laugh.gif

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will end about 100 pts down today...

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:43 PM)
he makes our job easier biggrin.gif

no one update DJIA ah (all dun care about it liao, unless it is a big drop or big surge) laugh.gif

13,253.36  Down 61.21 (0.46%)
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how's your portfolio performance today? Mine is marginally positive.
Sometimes I wonder why I use up so much energy to trade with losses, could have spent the losses amount instead.


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will end about 100 pts down today...
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why are you so sure? Some bad news?

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how's your portfolio performance today? Mine is marginally positive.
Sometimes I wonder why I use up so much energy to trade with losses, could have spent the losses amount instead.


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why are you so sure? Some bad news?
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mine ahh, some up, some down

dun really care liao lah, immune~
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why are you so sure? Some bad news?
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a lot of downgrades, plus oil price is coming down...and generally sentiment remains poor...and i think they're waiting for poor data coming out towards end of the week before going in in anticipation of a rate-cut rally next week


QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 4 2007, 10:49 PM)
how's your portfolio performance today? Mine is marginally positive.
Sometimes I wonder why I use up so much energy to trade with losses, could have spent the losses amount instead.
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surprisingly portfolio is green...good performance from dialog, hubline, ramunia and ytlpower

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a lot of downgrades, plus oil price is coming down...and generally sentiment remains poor...and i think they're waiting for poor data coming out towards end of the week before going in in anticipation of a rate-cut rally next week
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How does the given premium affects the CWs? Will the premium change daily?
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hi... i m interested in investing in stock and got some doubts...need ur help..

how is the prospect of day trading in klse??

is day trading in klse restricted to certain rules??

if invest more than 4-5 times in a week in klse, is one going to be classified as a pattern day trader which require them to hv $25k in his/her account....

is it possible to purchase and sell a stock within 10-20 seconds in klse???

hope u all can help... thanks...

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:54 PM)
mine ahh, some up, some down

dun really care liao lah, immune~
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all put in fridge de right?
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hey, u got notice this counter?
DPS RESOURCES BHD

Symbol & Code : DPS (7198)

EPS almost 10cents but trading at 48cents only. anybody got touch this counter ar?

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Wait tonite DJIA down 100points then tomorrow sure got bargain...


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QUOTE(aichiban @ Dec 4 2007, 09:08 PM)
i took it @3.64
it sort of cover all my other losses  sweat.gif

edit :
not sure it will go to 5
but im targeting to exit @ between 4.44 to 4.54 depending on the changes
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God bless you...
IMO, Proton is another Perwaja in the making...

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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 12:17 AM)
all put in fridge de right?
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hey, u got notice this counter?
DPS RESOURCES BHD

Symbol & Code : DPS (7198)

EPS almost 10cents but trading at 48cents only. anybody got touch this counter ar?
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They are issuing warrants soon I think for their share that will dilute the holdings. Here is an excerpt from OSK:

RENOUNCEABLE RIGHTS ISSUE OF UP TO 151,800,000 NEW ORDINARY SHARES OF RM0.50 EACH (?RIGHTS SHARE(S)?) IN DPS RESOURCES BERHAD ("DPS") ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) RIGHTS SHARE FOR EVERY ONE (1) EXISTING ORDINARY SHARE OF RM0.50 EACH HELD IN DPS TOGETHER WITH UP TO 75,900,000 FREE DETACHABLE WARRANTS (?WARRANT(S)?) ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) FREE WARRANT FOR EVERY TWO (2) RIGHTS SHARES SUBSCRIBED (?RIGHTS ISSUE?)

So things aren't always what they seem on the surface, I've said this before, the market is quite efficient in compensating for all this. So try to dig deeper like you are doing now to get to the bottom of something you find amiss.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 5 2007, 12:58 AM)
They are issuing warrants soon I think for their share that will dilute the holdings. Here is an excerpt from OSK:

RENOUNCEABLE RIGHTS ISSUE OF UP TO 151,800,000 NEW ORDINARY SHARES OF RM0.50 EACH (?RIGHTS SHARE(S)?) IN DPS RESOURCES BERHAD ("DPS") ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) RIGHTS SHARE FOR EVERY ONE (1) EXISTING ORDINARY SHARE OF RM0.50 EACH HELD IN DPS TOGETHER WITH UP TO 75,900,000 FREE DETACHABLE WARRANTS (?WARRANT(S)?) ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) FREE WARRANT FOR EVERY TWO (2) RIGHTS SHARES SUBSCRIBED (?RIGHTS ISSUE?)

So things aren't always what they seem on the surface, I've said this before, the market is quite efficient in compensating for all this. So try to dig deeper like you are doing now to get to the bottom of something you find amiss.
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need more explaination on rights share issue thingie, pretty new on this.
tq
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need more explaination on rights share issue thingie, pretty new on this.
tq
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What it means is, they will be issuing new shares soon. The rights issue which is given or sold to their shareholders basically gives the person who hold the 'rights' to actually buy the new shares at a discounted price.

From the statement, it says they are issuing 150 mil new shares. Thats about 100% increase in total shares. So just imagine the EPS is a cake, instead of 10 people sharing it, it will be 20 people sharing the same cake once the shares are issued.

So thats why the price looks kind of attractive because people have already taken the new shares into account and aren't going to pay more for the counter because it wouldn't be worth it once the new shares hit the market. Thats what I meant by the market being efficient.

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QUOTE(12bDreamChaser @ Dec 5 2007, 12:04 AM)
hi... i m interested in investing in stock and got some doubts...need ur help.. 

how is the prospect of day trading in klse??

is day trading in klse restricted to certain rules??

if invest more than 4-5 times in a week in klse, is one going to be classified as a pattern day trader which require them to hv $25k in his/her account....

is it possible to purchase and sell a stock within 10-20 seconds in klse???

hope u all can help... thanks...
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Based on my experience... which is not much tongue.gif

how is the prospect of day trading in klse??
Day trading possible if u enter at the right time & right counter.
is day trading in klse restricted to certain rules??
no restriction except u are not allowed to do short selling as far as I know.
if invest more than 4-5 times in a week in klse, is one going to be classified as a pattern day trader which require them to hv $25k in his/her account....
I'm using RHBInvest to do online daily trading and they don't care how much I have in my account as long as I trade within my limit.
is it possible to purchase and sell a stock within 10-20 seconds in klse???
Never try this before, within few minutes maybe possible but the fastest transaction I've done is within half hours. Maybe you can try it biggrin.gif

Pls correct me if I mentioned any wrong info...
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 5 2007, 01:15 AM)
What it means is, they will be issuing new shares soon. The rights issue which is given or sold to their shareholders basically gives the person who hold the 'rights' to actually buy the new shares at a discounted price.

From the statement, it says they are issuing 150 mil new shares. Thats about 100% increase in total shares. So just imagine the EPS is a cake, instead of 10 people sharing it, it will be 20 people sharing the same cake once the shares are issued.

So thats why the price looks kind of attractive because people have already taken the new shares into account and aren't going to pay more for the counter because it wouldn't be worth it once the new shares hit the market. Thats what I meant by the market being efficient.
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Yes. Dilution of earnings per shares.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 5 2007, 12:58 AM)
They are issuing warrants soon I think for their share that will dilute the holdings. Here is an excerpt from OSK:

RENOUNCEABLE RIGHTS ISSUE OF UP TO 151,800,000 NEW ORDINARY SHARES OF RM0.50 EACH (?RIGHTS SHARE(S)?) IN DPS RESOURCES BERHAD ("DPS") ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) RIGHTS SHARE FOR EVERY ONE (1) EXISTING ORDINARY SHARE OF RM0.50 EACH HELD IN DPS TOGETHER WITH UP TO 75,900,000 FREE DETACHABLE WARRANTS (?WARRANT(S)?) ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) FREE WARRANT FOR EVERY TWO (2) RIGHTS SHARES SUBSCRIBED (?RIGHTS ISSUE?)

So things aren't always what they seem on the surface, I've said this before, the market is quite efficient in compensating for all this. So try to dig deeper like you are doing now to get to the bottom of something you find amiss.
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Im not quite understand. How's attractiveness of DPS on EPS=10cents, and share price=48cents?
May i know what is PE ratio? As far as i know, PE * EPS = targeted price.
Please enlighten me. Thanks
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 5 2007, 02:32 AM)
DJI now at -30

Based on my experience... which is not much  tongue.gif

how is the prospect of day trading in klse??
Day trading possible if u enter at the right time & right counter.
is day trading in klse restricted to certain rules??
no restriction except u are not allowed to do short selling as far as I know.
if invest more than 4-5 times in a week in klse, is one going to be classified as a pattern day trader which require them to hv $25k in his/her account....
I'm using RHBInvest to do online daily trading and they don't care how much I have in my account as long as I trade within my limit.
is it possible to purchase and sell a stock within 10-20 seconds in klse???
Never try this before, within few minutes maybe possible but the fastest transaction I've done is within half hours. Maybe you can try it  biggrin.gif

Pls correct me if I mentioned any wrong info...
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Day trading is possible but not many are successful, most ended up with losses. Becareful what you are doing then. Generally successful 'guru's makes millions or billions through long term, only a few exceptional case people become successful through short term trading.

No restriction.

invest 4-5 times or 25k or 250k is a just a peanut by market standard, as long they granted the credit limit and you don't exceed it and pay on time each time, nodoby care.

Each online portal has its own rules, check respectively

you can done the transaction in just second or seconds as long as the price is matched.



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I tried is 5mins... the fact is that there;s lag issue when trading online...
Besides you aint the only one queueing for selling/buying... unless your buy price is higher than ppl willing to sell or selling price lower than ppl willing to buy...
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DJ future keep going up. + 26 now
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 5 2007, 09:29 AM)
DJ future keep going up.  + 26 now
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good...good.. biggrin.gif
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Pana stock all going up....

Dataprep cheong...
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good...good.. biggrin.gif
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Still not sure yet....since still early. I prefer early in the morning, future +1xx or more
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 5 2007, 09:35 AM)
Pana stock all going up....

Dataprep cheong...
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lol icon_rolleyes.gif

i wonder our friend jimjim throw his HSBC-C1 edy or not
it is coming down...
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 09:38 AM)
lol  icon_rolleyes.gif

i wonder our friend jimjim throw his HSBC-C1 edy or not
it is coming down...
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is going up
maybe can reach 60 sen
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 08:54 AM)
Day trading is possible but not many are successful, most ended up with losses. Becareful what you are doing then. Generally successful 'guru's makes millions or billions through long term, only a few exceptional case people become successful through short term trading.

No restriction.

invest 4-5 times or 25k or 250k is a just a peanut by market standard, as long they granted the credit limit and you don't exceed it and pay on time each time, nodoby care.

Each online portal has its own rules, check respectively

you can done the transaction in just second or seconds as long as the price is matched.
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sigh....in other words, not easy to make money through shares.
To make some peanuts to feel good for the moment is easy, but to earn well needs longer term planning.


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 09:38 AM)
lol  icon_rolleyes.gif

i wonder our friend jimjim throw his HSBC-C1 edy or not
it is coming down...
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hope he sold yesterday @ 0.03. Surprised to see now dropped 35%!

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KLCI broke all time high again, but lower liners not moving.
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Anyone can tell me about the Mutual Fund?
Is it passing your money for the pro investor to invest for you and if the share he invested are losses, your money will be minus off?
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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 5 2007, 09:44 AM)
is going up
maybe can reach 60 sen
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going up? the price still stay @ 0.020 whole morning. not moving at all man....
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QUOTE(wongck @ Dec 5 2007, 09:52 AM)
going up? the price still stay @ 0.020 whole morning. not moving at all man....
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I think they were discussing about Dataprep tongue.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:38 AM)
lol  icon_rolleyes.gif

i wonder our friend jimjim throw his HSBC-C1 edy or not
it is coming down...
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif surviving but seeing alot of star... still holding it tough... lesson learned already.. never trying to be super brave hahaha

nvm... still got 26days to go.... go go go... FED coming dec 11 so hoping by then got some improvement....

queue for 0.03 yesterday hope can grab intraday but nobody buying except that bloody 1 lot haha

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yeah DATAPRP we are talking about tongue.gif

strong resistance level at 0.57 / 0.575

cant break 0.58 yet, but once it break, can straight go up above 0.60


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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Dec 5 2007, 10:00 AM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  surviving but seeing alot of star... still holding it tough... lesson learned already.. never trying to be super brave hahaha

nvm... still got 26days to go.... go go go... FED coming dec 11 so hoping by then got some improvement....
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ya-lor..... another 26 days means there is still a chance especially where there is a piece of good news may come. tongue.gif
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ops...sorry..coz i saw him replying the hsbc-c1 msg
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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Dec 5 2007, 10:00 AM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  surviving but seeing alot of star... still holding it tough... lesson learned already.. never trying to be super brave hahaha

nvm... still got 26days to go.... go go go... FED coming dec 11 so hoping by then got some improvement....

queue for 0.03 yesterday hope can grab intraday but nobody buying except that bloody 1 lot haha
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wow you are so positive
good luck to you sin
although i am not looking good on it sweat.gif
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for those who fancy HK CW

time to switch our attention from O&G counter to properties counter

crude oil price keep dropping,
you may put the PETROCH / SINOPEC / CNOOC / SHENHUA aside first

recommending properties counter, eg CHEUNGK, HWL
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:05 AM)
for those who fancy HK CW

time to switch our attention from O&G counter to properties counter

crude oil price keep dropping,
you may put the PETROCH / SINOPEC / CNOOC / SHENHUA aside first

recommending properties counter, eg CHEUNGK, HWL
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your Dataprp doing well. Planning to sell soon?
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your Dataprp doing well. Planning to sell soon?
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not so soon, as i bought it at high price tongue.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:36 AM)
not so soon, as i bought it at high price tongue.gif
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oh, hope you achieve it then tongue.gif
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for those who have GAMUDA-CD

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(i) GAMUDA-CD will be expiring at 5.00 p.m. on Monday, 7 January 2008.

(ii) Trading in GAMUDA-CD will be suspended with effect from 9.00 a.m., Thursday, 3 January 2008 in order to facilitate the delisting of GAMUDA-CD arising from the expiry.

(iii) GAMUDA-CD will be removed from the Official List of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad with effect from 9.00 a.m., Tuesday, 8 January 2008.


so guys, try to sell before 3rd Jan 2008

3 more weeks to go, hope will have some miracle unsure.gif
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Today new listing of IPO, BioOsmo turns upside down, those buy through IPO are making a loss, IPO at Rm0.33, now Rm0.29.... still dropping.
Don't need to ballout, still can get cheaper in the market.

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same goes to BURSA-CE

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(i) BURSA-CE will be expiring at 5.00 p.m. on Friday, 4 January 2008.

(ii) Trading in BURSA-CE will be suspended with effect from 9.00 a.m., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 in order to facilitate the delisting of BURSA-CE arising from the expiry.

(iii) BURSA-CE will be removed from the Official List of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 7 January 2008.

Your attention is drawn to CIMB Investment Bank Berhad's notice to holders of BURSA-CE dated 30 November 2007.


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:47 AM)
for those who have GAMUDA-CD
so guys, try to sell before 3rd Jan 2008

3 more weeks to go, hope will have some miracle unsure.gif
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actually, I think can hold up to 29 Dec (fri) & 2 more day to sell on 31 Dec (Mon) & 2 Jan (wed) if they are not a holiday. (short & tight period)

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 5 2007, 10:51 AM)
actually, I think can hold up to 29 Dec (fri) & 2 more day to sell on 31 Dec (Mon) &  2 Jan (wed) if they are not a holiday.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 10:48 AM)
Today new listing of IPO, BioOsmo turns upside down, those buy through IPO are making a loss, IPO at Rm0.33, now Rm0.29.... still dropping.
Don't need to ballout, still can get cheaper in the market.
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BioOsmo ... the stock name is "biological" enough laugh.gif

what counter is this? i checked, BioOsmo is dealing with RO water, something like Diamond Mineral Water i suppose...

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 11:00 AM)
BioOsmo ... the stock name is "biological" enough laugh.gif

what counter is this? i checked, BioOsmo is dealing with RO water, something like Diamond Mineral Water i suppose...
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I see..... sounds unpromising.
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Very hyper now rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

paper lost around 5k++

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QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 5 2007, 11:44 AM)
Very hyper now  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

paper lost around 5k++

crazy liao  rclxms.gif yeah  cool2.gif
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are you holding mostly CW?
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I see..... sounds unpromising.
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not my cuppa of tea, either

KLCI is weaking, haha EQUINE is coming down to yesterday closing price, big fish eaten enough & left liao? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 5 2007, 11:45 AM)
are you holding mostly CW?
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Very hyper now  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

paper lost around 5k++

crazy liao  rclxms.gif yeah  cool2.gif
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5K...nia mah!!

i think i am more kao...wait lemme check first tongue.gif
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QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 5 2007, 11:46 AM)
No mostly oil counter  doh.gif
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I think its not too bad. No expiry date coming on you.
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wooo checked, mine one is more kao than you, X-Zen sweat.gif
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wooo checked, mine one is more kao than you, X-Zen sweat.gif
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you're daring with warrants, leh..............
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you're daring with warrants, leh..............
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wooo checked, mine one is more kao than you, X-Zen sweat.gif
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Big boss - share la...

Where have all the goreng syndicate gone
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Big boss - share la...

Where have all the goreng syndicate gone
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 10:48 AM)
Today new listing of IPO, BioOsmo turns upside down, those buy through IPO are making a loss, IPO at Rm0.33, now Rm0.29.... still dropping.
Don't need to ballout, still can get cheaper in the market.
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u think what the best price to get some of this? new IPO, not sure will goreng how long....
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u think what the best price to get some of this? new IPO, not sure will goreng how long....
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BIOOSMO so jialat

1st day listing, kena banana

poor thing
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I suggest go for good companies that share price has been battered recently.
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yeah... the owners & also successful share holders must be upset now...
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I got the feeling the goreng syndicate is returning, one stroke by one stroke....
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Heheh hows evelibodi doing .... haha close my IE after my last post... after lunch only check haha scare nasi lemak i also dont dare to buy...

Syndicate come goreng HSBC laaaaa good price now... (not yet discount though) haha...

paper loss abt 1.6k now... but biggest not on HSBC... mixture of others stock
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lemme see

i shall sell whatever that is near to expiry after the FED meeting on 11-Dec

gonna cash out the money & get ready for xmas~~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 12:05 PM)
lemme see

i shall sell whatever that is near to expiry after the FED meeting on 11-Dec

gonna cash out the money & get ready for xmas~~ biggrin.gif
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Heheh hows evelibodi doing .... haha close my IE after my last post... after lunch only check haha scare nasi lemak i also dont dare to buy...

Syndicate come goreng HSBC laaaaa good price now... (not yet discount though) haha...

paper loss abt 1.6k now... but biggest not on HSBC... mixture of others stock
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wah.... that's a lot ...1.6k paper loss in just a day!

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yah christmas

am getting a BIG PRESENT for my love one

lemme see, that thing itself gonna cost about 2000 shares of DATAPRP laugh.gif
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fuiyo!
I completely forgotten that there is a Christmas soon... doh.gif


Added on December 5, 2007, 12:10 pm

wah.... that's a lot ...1.6k paper loss in just a day!
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Haha nope not in a day.. accumulative from last 2 weeks...

No wonder our stock red red.. laugh.gif Santa coming to town....... whistling.gif anyone remember the next lyric haha then you will laugh haha biggrin.gif
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Haha nope not in a day.. accumulative from last 2 weeks... 

No wonder our stock red red..  laugh.gif Santa coming to town....... whistling.gif  anyone remember the next lyric haha then you will laugh haha  biggrin.gif
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i cant recall

so what's the next lyric laugh.gif
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i cant recall

so what's the next lyric laugh.gif
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eheeemmm whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I'm telling you why
Santa Claus is coming to town

He's making a list
And checking it twice;
Gonna find out Who's naughty and nice
Santa Claus is coming to town


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Added on December 5, 2007, 12:22 pmhaha asking CW player to watch out and not cry when santa come

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eeeei....

we have undergo the black november

i hope december is a good month...
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ahh i just go thru my calendar

FED meeting on 11-Dec

AEON CREDIT list on 12-Dec

wow, if the announcemnt is positive, it is good for AEON CREDIT sharesholders rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 5 2007, 01:15 AM)
What it means is, they will be issuing new shares soon. The rights issue which is given or sold to their shareholders basically gives the person who hold the 'rights' to actually buy the new shares at a discounted price.

From the statement, it says they are issuing 150 mil new shares. Thats about 100% increase in total shares. So just imagine the EPS is a cake, instead of 10 people sharing it, it will be 20 people sharing the same cake once the shares are issued.

So thats why the price looks kind of attractive because people have already taken the new shares into account and aren't going to pay more for the counter because it wouldn't be worth it once the new shares hit the market. Thats what I meant by the market being efficient.
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and how much need to pay for new subscription to right shares?
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then actually, with new share issue, isnt it a lost for current shareholders? their current holding diluted by 50%...
and how much need to pay for new subscription to right shares?
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Normally the company issuing new shares will try to entice the current shareholders and give them discount on buying the new shares. So maybe new shares will be priced at 50% or even 30% price of market value for the current shareholders. All depends on the agreed price in the statement of issue and differs from company to company.

But yes, the current shareholders do tend to lose out in my opinion.


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Normally the company issuing new shares will try to entice the current shareholders and give them discount on buying the new shares. So maybe new shares will be priced at 50% or even 30% price of market value for the current shareholders. All depends on the agreed price in the statement of issue and differs from company to company.

But yes, the current shareholders do tend to lose out in my opinion.
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from what i read, subscription to 2 right share, free one warrant.
so actually now if i buy dps share and wanna participate in the right share thingie, still in time?
but i'm under nominees account, any problem to subscribe to right share?
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from what i read, subscription to 2 right share, free one warrant.
so actually now if i buy dps share and wanna participate in the right share thingie, still in time?
but i'm under nominees account, any problem to subscribe to right share?
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I have no idea on the time-line or how nominee accounts work. I suggest you call your broker for more information about this and try to find the original press release of that statement in Bursa website which is more detailed.
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wonder what happen to it, yesterday so many sellings, 93% sell, 7% buy
today morning also people mass selling.

hmmm? hmm?
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Blue chip dividend stock. Very stable and not volatile.
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Pana add this to your calender as well.. DEC 6

What i see this will somehow fix the subprime issue a bit.

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By Alison Vekshin

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Federal regulators and U.S. lenders are focusing on five years as the duration of an interest-rate freeze on subprime mortgages, said a person familiar with negotiations aimed at stemming a surge in foreclosures.

Such an agreement would satisfy the shortest fix sought by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. That period is longer than the minimum, two- to three-year modifications suggested by Fannie Mae, the largest source of finance for American home loans. The Treasury Department's Office of Thrift Supervision advocated between three and five years.

``Five years sounds about right,'' said Douglas Elmendorf, a former Treasury and Federal Reserve Board official, and now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. ``This is a useful and important step, but it isn't a panacea.''

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is finalizing the accord as the housing recession enters its third year and threatens to undo the economic expansion. President George W. Bush and Paulson may announce the plan on Dec. 6, said two people familiar with negotiations.

Officials and company executives have spent much of the past week negotiating over how long to extend starter rates on subprime mortgages, which are usually given to people with poor or incomplete credit histories. Almost 20 percent of subprime loans end in foreclosure, more than six times the number of prime mortgages, according research by the Fed's Boston branch.

Republicans Meet Paulson

Paulson will brief House Republicans tomorrow on details of the plan, Representative Adam Putnam of Florida, the chairman of the House Republican Conference, told reporters in Washington today.

``The Treasury is pleased with the progress that we heard from mortgage-industry participants,'' Treasury spokeswoman Jennifer Zuccarelli said. She reiterated Paulson's comment yesterday that he expected an agreement by the end of the week, while declining to comment on specifics.

About 100,000 subprime loans will jump from their discounted initial rates every month for the next two years, UBS AG estimates. American home foreclosures almost doubled in October from a year earlier as subprime borrowers failed to make higher payments on adjustable-rate mortgages, Irvine, California-based RealtyTrac Inc. said on Nov. 29.

Extending Starter Rates

These mortgages usually begin with a rate of between 7 percent to 9 percent and then reset to between 11 percent and 13 percent. ``What we are talking about is having these loans modified, so they continue for a longer period of time at the starter rate,'' John Reich, director of the Office of Thrift Supervision, said in an interview in Washington yesterday.

Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke are concerned that falling home values will choke consumer spending, which has driven economic growth since the last recession ended in 2001. By heading off further deterioration in the $11.5 trillion mortgage market, officials are also aiming to stem losses on securities backed by subprime loans.

The Bush administration's efforts to forge an agreement have become more urgent as the economy falters after a third- quarter spurt. Growth may cool to an annual rate of less than 1 percent in October to December, economists say, following an expansion of 4.9 percent in the prior three months.

No `Silver Bullet'

``The number of subprime-mortgage resets is going to increase dramatically next year, and we need to make sure the capacity is there to handle it,'' Paulson said in a speech at a housing conference in Washington yesterday. While no ``silver bullet,'' rewriting a set of subprime loans would ``clearly'' ease the risks from the housing slump, he said in an interview later.

Sheila Bair, chairman of the FDIC, has been working with Paulson and has said she favors extending introductory rates for between five and seven years. The OTS, which hosted yesterday's conference suggested a freeze of between three and five years.

The cap on adjustable rates should last for at least two or three years, Fannie Mae Chief Executive Officer Daniel Mudd told reporters at the same event. ``That kind of number is what seems to make sense.''

Paulson identified four categories of subprime borrowers: those who can afford to pay adjustable-rate loans; those who don't have ``the financial wherewithal to sustain home ownership;'' those who choose to refinance their mortgages -- which he called ``the first, best option'' -- and those who can afford the introductory rate but not the adjusted one. The government is focused on helping the last category, he said.

``We are focusing on this group, determining who they are and what steps may appropriately assist them,'' he said. The plan ``does not, and will not, include spending taxpayer money on funding or subsidies for
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anyone holding Kinstel?
wonder what happen to it, yesterday so many sellings, 93% sell, 7% buy
today morning also people mass selling.

hmmm? hmm?
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this counter got split 1 to 5 before, have to analyze carefully lo.

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 5 2007, 12:43 PM)
Normally the company issuing new shares will try to entice the current shareholders and give them discount on buying the new shares. So maybe new shares will be priced at 50% or even 30% price of market value for the current shareholders. All depends on the agreed price in the statement of issue and differs from company to company.

But yes, the current shareholders do tend to lose out in my opinion.
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Whatever, rights issue generally is considered not so good for existing shareholders. It means you have to fork out extra money otherwise your holding in the company will be diluted.

Yes, sometimes, it is needed to fund the company expansion which might mean future profit will be improving and company grow bigger. But generally and personally not view it is a good news. It just means company run out of capital to fund their expansion or having high debt or cashflow problem.

Normally highly profitable and well managed company don't issue rights issue, as they can fund their expansion through internal funding (cash or whatever liquid assets) or borrowing.

I want my invested company to generate return for me, in the form of dividend and company profit. I don't want invest into some company then afterwards seek more money from me one.

Anyway just my personal perference. As sometimes rights issue will do good to the company also for future expansion as mentioned earlier.
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1st session closed :

Shanghai | 5,010.31 | 94.42 (1.92%)
HSI | 28,945.97 | 66.38 (0.23%)
NIKKEI | 15,590.29 | 110.10 (0.71%)

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 02:14 PM)
1st session closed :

Shanghai | 5,010.31 | 94.42 (1.92%)
HSI | 28,945.97 | 66.38 (0.23%)
NIKKEI | 15,590.29 | 110.10 (0.71%)

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But I see Shanghai 5031.94 116.05 2.36% 14:24
Anyway still green tongue.gif

if shanghai up will it push BOC-C1? or not related at all...

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err i see it from here anyway

http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia

yah, as long as it is green biggrin.gif
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you intend to buy BOC-C1? or already bought?
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You have Gamuda? You know what happen to it? How come keep dropping these 2 days?
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Pana,

You have Gamuda? You know what happen to it? How come keep dropping these 2 days?
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i have written in the past few pages

GAMUDA failed in getting a billion worth water project

as per what i read from the latest edition of The Edge
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@tsarena

you intend to buy BOC-C1? or already bought?
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already bought and stuck.. sad.gif
my average price is too high
denfinitely in loses cry.gif

need to sell all my sinopec to cover the loses...
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already bought and stuck..  sad.gif
my average price is too high
denfinitely in loses  cry.gif

need to sell all my sinopec to cover the loses...
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ahh you still have SINOPEC, i thought you have sold all
what price you intend to sell, for SINOPEC? rolleyes.gif

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i have written in the past few pages

GAMUDA failed in getting a billion worth water project

as per what i read from the latest edition of The Edge
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Wow....if like this dunno whether to keep or not....or just throw now cry.gif
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 5 2007, 02:29 PM)
But I see Shanghai 5031.94 116.05 2.36% 14:24
Anyway still green tongue.gif

if shanghai up will it push BOC-C1? or not related at all...
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Not related, as the BOC-C1 is tracking the mothershare in HK aka H shares. HSI although up BOC is hardly move or down 1 cent currently at 4.06.
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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 01:36 PM)
how did u observe how many % selling/buying?
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this counter got split 1 to 5 before, have to analyze carefully lo.
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my broker system got summary on that, can see the % of buy/sell volume for the past 1 week.

kinstel now 1.29, hanging at 1.3x for the past 2 weeks. highest it reach 1.55 2 months ago.


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go go dialog....go go sapcres! hehehehe
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 5 2007, 02:50 PM)
Wow....if like this dunno whether to keep or not....or just throw now  cry.gif
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i dun intend to sell either, but GAMUDA-CD, yes, wanna get rid of it ASAP as expiry left 3 weeks only...


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go go dialog....go go sapcres! hehehehe
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go go go DIALOG & SAPCRES!!! biggrin.gif
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wow BURSA lai liao~~

BURSA CE & CF, go go go biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 02:48 PM)
ahh you still have SINOPEC, i thought you have sold all
what price you intend to sell, for SINOPEC?  rolleyes.gif
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Sinopec-C1 at 0.280
Sinopec-C2 at 0.155
Sinopec-C3 at 0.135 -> managed to sold it just now rclxm9.gif

When I say all sinopec, means all C1,C2 and C3 laugh.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 02:51 PM)
Not related, as the BOC-C1 is tracking the mothershare in HK aka H shares. HSI although up BOC is hardly move or down 1 cent currently at 4.06.
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ok, but now at least BOC-C1 0.055
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wow BURSA lai liao~~

BURSA CE & CF, go go go biggrin.gif
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GO BURSA CE & CF! GO GO GO!
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 5 2007, 03:12 PM)
Sinopec-C1 at 0.280
Sinopec-C2 at 0.155
Sinopec-C3 at 0.135  -> managed to sold it just now  rclxm9.gif

When I say all sinopec, means all C1,C2 and C3  laugh.gif
ok, but now at least BOC-C1 0.055
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whoa, SAPU all SINOPEC tongue.gif

ahhh SINOPEC-C1 highest was 0.275, today definately can reach your TP!
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I also help you to Kar Yau!

GO BURSA CE & CF! GO GO GO!
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how kind of you~!

Futures: +53.00  rclxms.gif
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whoa, SAPU all SINOPEC tongue.gif

ahhh SINOPEC-C1 highest was 0.275, today definately can reach your TP!
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too bad sold off all my HSI yesterday... doh.gif
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We have a lot of syndicates goreng on the CW. All can see push up like mad hehe
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 5 2007, 03:22 PM)
Hopefully  biggrin.gif
too bad sold off all my HSI yesterday... doh.gif
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Yalor...
I really wonder why HSI-C3 suddenly so active...
When I bought at 0.23 wasnt moving at all... now all sold and less than 3 days, up 5cents...
LOL... and to think that I bought 50,000 units that time... that would be 2.5k...

You guys should buy what I sold....
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who is the dimwit who keep on selling 1 lot (100 shares) at 1 tick lower of Resorts whenever somebody buys at higher price?
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Yalor...
I really wonder why HSI-C3 suddenly so active...
When I bought at 0.23 wasnt moving at all... now all sold and less than 3 days, up 5cents...
LOL... and to think that I bought 50,000 units that time... that would be 2.5k...

You guys should buy what I sold....
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Then please tell us what have you sold each time. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Now HSI is approaching 30k mark which makes the HSI-Cx become active again.
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 5 2007, 03:28 PM)
Yalor...
I really wonder why HSI-C3 suddenly so active...
When I bought at 0.23 wasnt moving at all... now all sold and less than 3 days, up 5cents...
LOL... and to think that I bought 50,000 units that time... that would be 2.5k...

You guys should buy what I sold....
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yesterday,
bought/sold HSI-C2 (intra) bought 0.140 then sold 0.155
HSI-C3 bought 0.235 then sold 0.255

now see HSI-C3 really sakit hati... doh.gif




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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 03:33 PM)
Then please tell us what have you sold each time.  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif

Now HSI is approaching 30k mark which makes the HSI-Cx become active again.
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i wanna see HSI go above 33,000!!! biggrin.gif
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Yalor...
But HSI-C2 should be more attractive cos its cheap and exercise at 30870 level... HSI-C3 still some way to go at 31xxx.

However due to the complex calculation, I still not sure how to calculate HSI-C2 and C3 but I think its at negative.
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pana: got any counter u going to hit or recommend ?
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Dec 5 2007, 03:06 PM)
go go dialog....go go sapcres! hehehehe
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 5 2007, 03:35 PM)
Yalor...
But HSI-C2 should be more attractive cos its cheap and exercise at 30870 level... HSI-C3 still some way to go at 31xxx.

However due to the complex calculation, I still not sure how to calculate HSI-C2 and C3 but I think its at negative.
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HSI-C3 is 31,888 <-- so easy to remember this figure. biggrin.gif

Both are 'out of money', so worth nothing basically until HSI crosses their respective exercise price.

Btw, KLCI is setting another new high today, I believe. But lot of people are making a loss at current market situation.

It is almost identical to China market, index keep on set new high but respectively counters (small cap) are dropping more than 30%.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 03:38 PM)
kapitan, so you are not picking up anything today? rolleyes.gif
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Lately I busy with work...
So I din have time to monitor...
Besides those HK CW all got >5% premium except PetroChina C1, Sinopec C1, CNOOC-C1, ShenHua-C1, CheungK-C1.
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Dec 5 2007, 03:38 PM)
bursa-cf gogogo tongue.gif
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maybe you can consider that laugh.gif

BURSA is dropping from 16.xx to 13.xx these day (thanks to the black november)

so basically BURSA still not yet fully rebound, you may consider pick the CF as mothershare move, cw will follow, too biggrin.gif
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BURSA touched 14.00, awww i feel touched~~

come come, next target is 15.00 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Dec 5 2007, 04:38 PM)
bursa-cf gogogo tongue.gif
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my bursa cw ho sei liooooooooooo

one month ago brought, today up paling banyak

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Do you think after US gov announce the Rate cut on 11 Dec, ppl will focus on Us/Europe CW ? If i m not wrong, apple-cw and Exxon... (forgot spelling) will get listed on that day ? Will europe/US cw surge that day ?
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wow, 700++ points more HSI will break 30K

STI, SEOUL & TW also changed from red to green! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 5 2007, 03:50 PM)
Do you think after US gov announce the Rate cut on 11 Dec, ppl will focus on Us/Europe CW ?  If i m not wrong,  apple-cw and Exxon... (forgot spelling) will get listed on that day ? Will europe/US cw surge that day ?
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dun think so

GOOGLE-C1 is the good example

performed badly (due to the high premiums)

never see it go up above 0.30+ except the 1st day of listing unsure.gif
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wow, 700++ points more HSI will break 30K

STI, SEOUL & TW also changed from red to green! biggrin.gif
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apa good news ?

i think wan buy some more cw. hopefully tomoro up and ho seiii
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 5 2007, 03:50 PM)
Do you think after US gov announce the Rate cut on 11 Dec, ppl will focus on Us/Europe CW ?  If i m not wrong,  apple-cw and Exxon... (forgot spelling) will get listed on that day ? Will europe/US cw surge that day ?
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It depends, as those CW are issued at a high premium, it depends on the market conditon on that time as well as market makers and syndicate willingness to 'push'. Yes, no doubt if Exxon or Apple mothershares surge which definitely will mean higher open for the CW so better watch carefully about the mothershare condition. If mothershare doesn't change much in this period then it all depends on willingness to 'goreng' as mentioned.

Exxon mothershare price is highly related to crude oil price while Apple share price is highly related to technology sector issue. US and Europe market are more mature, individual share won't rise purely on overall market sentiment like here, their share price is highly related to their individual fundamental.

Market already anticipated a 0.25% rate cut, that's why DJ had risen more than 500 points im just few days.

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any idea why the market suddenly surge?
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market is idle now...

55 min more to go
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any idea why the market suddenly surge?
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good some good news from us government
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what good news???
suddenly surge!!! dont know wat happen.... in the morning.... just cut loss in IOICORP... damn.
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Today market not bad la...
The increase is very wide spread...

Although counters like KNM, LCL, BURSA, SIME, push KLCI up a lot, but still smaller one also got increase.
Anyway, I think I will take a rest... too high liao...
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good will last until monday....after that we just have to cross finger and pray....dono wat will happen after that...
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good will last until monday....after that we just have to cross finger and pray....dono wat will happen after that...
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good will last until monday....after that we just have to cross finger and pray....dono wat will happen after that...
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wait after election la...apalagi.....dono wat will happen man....make money i also wanna run liao....buy sport rim for my car hehehe
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why , pana ?  mau pergi mana ?

gain money cabut ah u  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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pergi o'liday biggrin.gif
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wait after election la...apalagi.....dono wat will happen man....make money i also wanna run liao....buy sport rim for my car hehehe
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when election ? jan 08 ? confirm already ?

why before election must cabut ?

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 04:33 PM)
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when election ? jan 08 ? confirm already ?

why before election must cabut ?

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wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, song ah u , pana .........

me go holland...........lose money
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some shares will kena goreng kao kao
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 5 2007, 04:36 PM)
pergi holiday mana?
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nearby only, going to SG for 2008 countdown tongue.gif

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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 5 2007, 04:32 PM)
wait after election la...apalagi.....dono wat will happen man....make money i also wanna run liao....buy sport rim for my car hehehe
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coconut got election insider info?
when?
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hehehe not sure la....but should be soon....as there is many issues happening in our country...once i can get comfimation answer den let u know
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Bubbles going to burst....

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SG alot of people countdown, cannot even move...
and after countdown also very hard to go back...MRT full of people, cab also not enough...

Bursa touching 14.100

lol DIGI from top 1 loser -0.500 become top 10 gainer +0.500

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is good to see my portfolio green and yellow only....hahahahha happy also to see like this once a while...kakakak....

i went in BURSA-CE 10@0.34

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what good news???
suddenly surge!!! dont know wat happen.... in the morning.... just cut loss in IOICORP... damn.
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Aiyo Jojoe, u sold IOI in morning??
Today it rebound leh.
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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 5 2007, 04:57 PM)
is good to see my portfolio green and yellow only....hahahahha happy also to see like this once a while...kakakak....

i went in BRUSA-CE 10@0.34
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eh, is BURSA la, not BRUSA laugh.gif
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Asian markets are making strong rally in the second half.

European markets open the day in GREEN.


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 05:07 PM)
wow my lost minus another 1k, good good biggrin.gif
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Aiyo Jojoe, u sold IOI in morning??
Today it rebound leh.
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i also sold yesterday... sob sob. no patience to hold already.

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TAK PAYAH SUSAH SUSAH rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Dec 5 2007, 05:00 PM)
Aiyo Jojoe, u sold IOI in morning??
Today it rebound leh.
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no choice already..... fourth day and no money to pay... so have to sell it off! manage to get rm20 for lunch lah.... still got 2000 unit at 7.15 rclxub.gif ....
holding for some time already.
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is it really good choice to hold on to IOIcorp with the crude oil price dropping?

jojoe, i bought same price with u...
but SOLD liau.
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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 05:14 PM)
can take out ur food from fridge and ready to cook already...
its been a while.
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i wish i can - tomorrow! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 05:22 PM)
is it really good choice to hold on to IOIcorp with the crude oil price dropping?

jojoe, i bought same price with u...
but SOLD liau.
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not a good choice if u were to ask me

IOICORP price has been going up from 5.xx to 7.xx

anything above 7 is not worth keeping (unless you dun mind to hold & wait)
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and please make tomorrow a beautiful morning too biggrin.gif

Futures: +76.00
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Is there any important announcement apart frm OPEC meeting tonight causing asia to rally in afternoon session?
or tonight will just be technical rebound?
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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 05:22 PM)
is it really good choice to hold on to IOIcorp with the crude oil price dropping?

jojoe, i bought same price with u...
but SOLD liau.
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i also new player.... join since july.... but ioicorp is the 50% of my profit.... another counter also make profit is genting.
any counter with normal/good background will go up... just a matter of time.... anyone agree?????

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Is there any important announcement apart frm OPEC meeting tonight causing asia to rally in afternoon session?
or tonight will just be technical rebound?
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i also wan to know... unsure.gif


QUOTE(jojoe @ Dec 5 2007, 05:27 PM)
i also new player.... join since july.... but ioicorp is the 50% of my profit.... another counter also make profit is genting.
any counter with normal/good background will go up... just a matter of time.... anyone agree?????
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agree~!!

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ioicorp price surge quite high already as pana said..... but i thing good about ioi is fast go up... also fast go down...
however now i kena trap.... cannot move already.... have to hold it wait to 7.xx
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Is there any important announcement apart frm OPEC meeting tonight causing asia to rally in afternoon session?
or tonight will just be technical rebound?
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People bet on high hope of rate cut next week by Fed. Some even predict another 0.5%. The market is 'rate cut' addicted currently, got rate cut hope, market shoot up, then economy or housing and financial problem still persist, market tumble again, then when Fed meeting near, hope another rate cut, cycle repeat itself since the surprise 0.5% cut in Sept.

The employment data on this Friday in US might hold the crucial clue how Fed will do next week.

OPEC meeting has nothing to do with the market directly except for the crude oil movement.

Another thing is US regulator works with lenders to work out to 'freeze' the subprime interest rate resetting issue to avoid foreclosure which somehow become alarming.
This is also a half tank issue, half empty or half full. Doesn't necessary 100% positive side.

Forget another thing, year end is coming, might see some window dressing activities as well especially those being battered hard one. Financial stock in US?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 05:39 PM)
People bet on high hope of rate cut next week by Fed. Some even predict another 0.5%. The market is 'rate cut' addicted currently, got rate cut hope, market shoot up, then economy or housing and financial problem still persist, market tumble again, then when Fed meeting near, hope another rate cut, cycle repeat itself since the surprise 0.5% cut in Sept.

The employment data on this Friday in US might hold the crucial clue how Fed will do next week.

OPEC meeting has nothing to do with the market directly except for the crude oil movement.

Another thing is US regulator works with lenders to work out to 'freeze' the subprime interest rate resetting issue to avoid foreclosure which somehow become alarming.
This is also a half tank issue, half empty or half full. Doesn't necessary 100% positive side.

Forget another thing, year end is coming, might see some window dressing activities as well especially those being battered hard one. Financial stock in US?
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the last rate cut still not show any sign of improvement, so fast want to cut again? later if inflation increase hard to cool down.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 5 2007, 06:09 PM)
the last rate cut still not show any sign of improvement, so fast want to cut again? later if inflation increase hard to cool down.
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Fed is depress now. Even they cut rate, interbank (LIBOR) rate is staying high (LIBOR is the place or interest rate for banks lend to each others).

By right, rate cut need at least 6 months to work into the system, but financial situation and housing problem worsen which make Fed a little depresse and opt to 'pre-emptied' the downside risk of the economy. There is huge debate whether Fed is doing the right thing or not. Most (99%) of market people welcome the rate cut, mean equities market shoot up, surely good for them biggrin.gif, but for the larger picture, economist somehow raise some concern of too steep rate cut which may or may not solve the problem in the long run, as rate cut won't automatically make those subprime default become 'alive' back. Japan is the classic example of it.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 5 2007, 05:39 PM)
People bet on high hope of rate cut next week by Fed. Some even predict another 0.5%. The market is 'rate cut' addicted currently, got rate cut hope, market shoot up, then economy or housing and financial problem still persist, market tumble again, then when Fed meeting near, hope another rate cut, cycle repeat itself since the surprise 0.5% cut in Sept.

The employment data on this Friday in US might hold the crucial clue how Fed will do next week.

OPEC meeting has nothing to do with the market directly except for the crude oil movement.

Another thing is US regulator works with lenders to work out to 'freeze' the subprime interest rate resetting issue to avoid foreclosure which somehow become alarming.
This is also a half tank issue, half empty or half full. Doesn't necessary 100% positive side.

Forget another thing, year end is coming, might see some window dressing activities as well especially those being battered hard one. Financial stock in US?
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cherroy, what does "window dressing" mean? unsure.gif
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emm till today, my SINOPEC & CNOOC are negative premiums now

if mothershare fly, the baby warrant in malaysia will follow happy.gif
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cherroy, what does "window dressing" mean?  unsure.gif
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STOCK MARKET WINDOW DRESSING: THE ART OF LOOKING SMART!
   As investors, and we all are investors these days, it is important that we understand the idiosyncrasies of the Stock Market pricing data we use to help us in our decision making efforts. On Wall Street, investing can be a minefield for those who don't take the time to appreciate why securities prices are at the levels that appear on quarterly account statements. At least four times per year, security prices are more a function of institutional marketing practices than they are a reflection of the economic forces that we would like to think are their primary determining factors. Not even close... Around the end of every calendar quarter, we hear the financial media matter-of-factly report that Institutional Window Dressing Activities" are in full swing. But that is as far, and as deep, as it ever goes. What are they talking about, and just what does it mean to you as an investor?

   There are at least three forms of Window Dressing, none of which should make you particularly happy and all of which should make you question the integrity of organizations that either authorize, implement, or condone their use. The better-known variety involves the culling from portfolios of stocks with significant losses and replacing them with shares of companies whose shares have been the most popular during recent months. Not only does this practice make the managers look smarter on reports sent to major clients, it also makes Mutual Fund performance numbers appear significantly more attractive to prospective "fund switchers". On the sell side of the ledger, prices of the weakest performing stocks are pushed down even further. Obviously, all fund managements will take part in the ritual if they choose to survive. This form of window dressing is, by most definitions, neither investing nor speculating. But no one seems to care about the ethics, the legality, or the fact that this "Buy High, Sell Low" picture is being painted with your Mutual Fund palette.

   A more subtle form of Window Dressing takes place throughout the calendar quarter, but is "unwound" before the portfolio's Quarterly Reports reach the glossies. In this less prevalent (but even more fraudulent) variety, the managers invest in securities that are clearly out of sync with the fund's published investment policy during a period when their particular specialty has fallen from grace with the gurus. For example, adding commodity ETFs, or popular emerging country issues to a Large Cap Value Fund, etc. Profits are taken before the Quarter Ends so that the fund's holdings report remains uncompromised, but with enhanced quarterly results. A third form of Window Dressing is referred to as "survivorship", but it impacts Mutual Fund investors alone while the others undermine the information used by (and the market performance of) individual security investors. You may want to research it.


window dressing usually occur 2- 3wks before English New Year, but I have to go to Tokyo for personal matters, won't be able to witness the exciting moments. unsure.gif

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ohhhh, thanks for the explanation, sharesa

wow you'll be going to JPN, how nice biggrin.gif
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the Futures stay high at +123.00

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wah pana...u r here whole day one ar! salute u!

tomolo hope our stock fly again! smile.gif
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wah pana...u r here whole day one ar! salute u!

tomolo hope our stock fly again! smile.gif
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Dec 5 2007, 11:32 PM)
wah pana...u r here whole day one ar! salute u!

tomolo hope our stock fly again! smile.gif
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pana is watching over you and everyone of us here... becareful.
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very long time no see continuous green so many days dee, hope this rally continue till chinese new year.
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IMO, since I also bought IOICORP, I think if one really calculate, I think it already exceed the 32x PE when the price is at 7.50 and above.. hence it drop to 7.10-7.30 which didnt hold out for long. I sold mine long ago after realising its too damn bloated.

In HK, you probably get shares (mainly China related shares) that are trading beyond 40x PE and yet they still prosper. But then again, with China trying to cool the economy and reduce the trade deficit, who knows what might happened.

Just a matter of fact, my company usually bought around RM20~30M steel materials from China yearly but this year has been reduced not in amount but quantity. China has already taken a drastic step to cool its export by cutting off rebates and imposing export tax to curb them from exporting too much. Products from China (using steel as reference) has increase almost 30% (used to enjoy 7% rebate, but now thats taken off, and slapped with a 15% export tax which will be increased to 20% early next year).

Shares like Sinopec, Cheung Kong, CNOOC, PetroChina (surprise, surprise, but it has since drop to a more realistic ~20x PE level) are few of the decent of trading off 20x PE. Shares like ICBC, Shen Hua, ChMoly (China Molybdenum), China Mobile, and China Life are trading with a PE exceeding 40x. Of course China has a big market and its impossible to have a forecast for their future expansion but with China intervention to cool down its economy, I think its wise to practice precaution when buying HKCW.


Added on December 5, 2007, 11:59 pm
QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 11:51 PM)
pana is watching over you and everyone of us here... becareful.
rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif

very long time no see continuous green so many days dee, hope this rally continue till chinese new year.
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I think will be quite stable till Chrismas.
Next year will be hard to say cos as subprime figures will be released along with rates cut again, who knows what might happen.


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DJIA closed Wed at 13,444.96 up 196.23.

Up further today at KLCI?
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DJIA closed Wed at 13,444.96 up 196.23.

Up further today at KLCI?
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u wake up early in the morning just to see DJIA? Or you monitor one whole night?
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phew. so lucky i am.. Yesterday bought 300lots of HSBC-c1 at 0.015, now soldd all already.. earn almost 3k...
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Today is a GREEN Day....i Love December biggrin.gif


Added on December 6, 2007, 9:12 amWill KLCI beat the 1500 points this year?

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u wake up early in the morning just to see DJIA? Or you monitor one whole night?
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Haha! Woke up early.
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phew. so lucky i am.. Yesterday bought 300lots of HSBC-c1 at 0.015, now soldd all already..  earn  almost 3k...
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Good for you... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 10:09 AM)
phew. so lucky i am.. Yesterday bought 300lots of HSBC-c1 at 0.015, now soldd all already..  earn  almost 3k...
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Wow you are very sharp... i bought at 0.025 and still queueing for 0.03 ... hope increase another 0.005 then im happy liao
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big day for everyone, woohoo biggrin.gif
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big day for everyone, woohoo biggrin.gif
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Big day and good also

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 09:23 AM)
big day for everyone, woohoo biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 6 2007, 09:30 AM)
Big day and good also
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actually only big caps moving ba, other counters also slight gain only.
sien, i got no blue chips or blue chips related ctr at all
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lol actually i am slowly recovering back my loses

not really gain yet

but since the market is up, let's be cheerful for others too biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 09:09 AM)
phew. so lucky i am.. Yesterday bought 300lots of HSBC-c1 at 0.015, now soldd all already..  earn  almost 3k...
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Daring..

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TIP: play contra punya kaki...make sure load off before tuesday...
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ahh tips again from coconut~!

based on the market data released yesterday, looks like market is recovering
that is also one of the important key whether uncle bern will cut rate or not
if no rate cut on tuesday's night announcemnt
i am sure market will be tumble again on wednesday morning

my own prediction rolleyes.gif
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Daring..
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he fully using the below phrase

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Warren Buffett : Fear when people greed, greed when people fear


and he won in the battle biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 6 2007, 09:42 AM)
actually only big caps moving ba, other counters also slight gain only.
sien, i got no blue chips or blue chips related ctr at all
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Most of my counters moving woh....and my portfolio consist both blue chip and non blue chip counters
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and looks like market is losing steam again, the cycle continued
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hahaha the NOS tank in KLSE is not so big like in the US .....so 1hr for u to unload ....heheheheh....

ok la BURSA-CE let me smile can ady...
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 09:49 AM)
and looks like market is losing steam again, the cycle continued
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Let see how the market go after HK open
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hahaha the NOS tank in KLSE is not so big like in the US .....so 1hr for u to unload ....heheheheh....

ok la BURSA-CE let me smile can ady...
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sold liao ah CE? biggrin.gif
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How much u bought?

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^ he bought at yesterday's closing price, lol
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nowor.....i try Q at 10@0.400 hope can get lo...heheh
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nowor.....i try Q at 10@0.400 hope can get lo...heheh
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wahh 600 bucks masuk pocket, great

can buy sports rims liao, kekekke
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lol actually i am slowly recovering back my loses

not really gain yet

but since the market is up, let's be cheerful for others too biggrin.gif
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me to .... just recovering losses... not yet profit... just reduce losses only.... sad.gif

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me to .... just recovering losses... not yet profit... just reduce losses only.... sad.gif
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yahlor, recovering from what is loses in november

well just a matter of time we shall see profits again biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ninjitsu @ Dec 6 2007, 10:10 AM)
Trying to sell my IOICORP at 7.00. Queing.
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IOICORP 7.00 now, sold yours?
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IOICORP 7.00 now, sold yours?
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got 30cents profit??? goood lah.... i still in loss of 15cents cry.gif
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My EDEN and BURSA are my top runners today...the rest all break even
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IOICORP 7.00 now, sold yours?
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Yep, sold, now at 7.10. Haha!
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I think this afternoon's market would be better because many investors become more confident & participate.


Added on December 6, 2007, 11:01 am
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My EDEN and BURSA are my top runners today...the rest all break even
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QUOTE(Ninjitsu @ Dec 6 2007, 10:47 AM)
Yep, sold, now at 7.10. Haha!
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Hello there...

I'm very new to the market and I'm still finding my feet.

How do you earn almost 3K? What's the price you sold the warrant?

300 lots = 300 * 100, right?

So 30,000 @ 0.015 = RM 450?

Still can't understand how 450 bucks can earn you 3k?

Can anyone brief me?

I'm now holding PetroCh-C5. Trying to understand the whole warrant "tactic". So I can maximise my returns... rclxms.gif
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me to .... just recovering losses... not yet profit... just reduce losses only.... sad.gif
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Jojoe, ioi u punya sudah jual kah?
I jual kat 7.05 liaw lor.


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target to sell my:

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collect some money 1st...and scout for some UMNO linked counters...kekeke...
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 09:09 AM)
phew. so lucky i am.. Yesterday bought 300lots of HSBC-c1 at 0.015, now soldd all already..  earn  almost 3k...
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congraz to you too


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target to sell my:

BURSA-CE
CHMOBIL-C5
CHEUNGK-C1

collect some money 1st...and scout for some UMNO linked counters...kekeke...
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all of them are sizzling hot, can let go soon, eh?

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Jojoe, ioi u punya sudah jual kah?
I jual kat 7.05 liaw lor.
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i still holding it..... i already wash my hair..... i dont mind take bath also!!!
wait for profit 1st before i sell it..... since ge and chinese new year near... hopefully can sell at good price..
very greedy ah!!!!...
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QUOTE(Ya Rerd @ Dec 6 2007, 11:04 AM)
Hello there...
How do you earn almost 3K? What's the price you sold the warrant?

300 lots = 300 * 100, right?

So 30,000 @ 0.015 = RM 450?

Still can't understand how 450 bucks can earn you 3k?

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I reckon he is talking about 300 lots of old old system (300 x 1000), as most old timers in the market still treat 1 lot= 1000.

Actually I am a little surpise the HSI only rise about 300+ points after DJ surge nearly 200 points. I initially thought HSI will open up at least 700+ point to test the 30K mark.

Locally, besides the index and index linked, others so so only, not much exciting, volume though improves a bit compared to last few week, still market is queit throughout.

But Sapcres does have very good bounce for the last few days. Time to defroze for those keep in the fridge and put in 'goreng' pan ? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(jojoe @ Dec 6 2007, 11:12 AM)
i still holding it..... i already wash my hair..... i dont mind take bath also!!!
wait for profit 1st before i sell it..... since ge and chinese new year near... hopefully can sell at good price..
very greedy ah!!!!...
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U need to watch carefully lor.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 6 2007, 11:17 AM)
I reckon he is talking about 300 lots of old old system (300 x 1000), as most old timers in the market still treat 1 lot= 1000.

Actually I am a little surpise the HSI only rise about 300+ points after DJ surge nearly 200 points. I initially thought HSI will open up at least 700+ point to test the 30K mark.

Locally, besides the index and index linked, others so so only, not much exciting, volume though improves a bit compared to last few week, still market is queit throughout.

But Sapcres does have very good bounce for the last few days. Time to defroze for those keep in the fridge and put in 'goreng' pan ?  biggrin.gif
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lol tongue.gif , I intend to slow boil it to 2.50 at least biggrin.gif

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I reckon he is talking about 300 lots of old old system (300 x 1000), as most old timers in the market still treat 1 lot= 1000.
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If he meant 1000 units, then it sums up...

Do you guys think PetroCh is for keeps?
Recent crude oil prices isn't helping much.
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 6 2007, 11:07 AM)
congraz to you too


Added on December 6, 2007, 11:09 am

all of them are sizzling hot, can let go soon, eh?
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almost reach my personal TP ma...i don wan be greedy lo...got money to take ok liao...


Added on December 6, 2007, 11:38 amRANHILL SAPCRES COMINTL are all coming up....how much they can go we dono....last time SAPCRES use to be my good buddy....but honestly i am abit scared of him now...

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by the way, I think (unsure)Jasontoh wants a wake-up call when Sapcres touches 1.60? Yoo-hoo, are u around?
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Sold SapCres @ 1.69, Pana you still holding?
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lol tongue.gif , I intend to slow boil it to 2.50 at least biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 6 2007, 11:36 AM)
almost reach my personal TP ma...i don wan be greedy lo...got money to take ok liao...


Added on December 6, 2007, 11:38 amRANHILL SAPCRES COMINTL are all coming up....how much they can go we dono....last time SAPCRES use to be my good buddy....but honestly i am abit scared of him now...
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eh? With all the good news that came in November (wrong timing) for Sapcres, no boost up confidence,kah?
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by the way, I think (unsure)Jasontoh wants a wake-up call when Sapcres touches 1.60? Yoo-hoo, are u around?
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Yeah.....now Sapcres sees some light
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Sold SapCres @ 1.69, Pana you still holding?
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Why sell so early?
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Why sell so early?
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Profit cabut lah, not greedy
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not no confidence la....SAPCRES is mean to be a long keeping counter....but i believe there will be 1 more drop before it really goes up to 2.00 .....
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U plan to sell at 2.50? Do you really think it will reach that price?
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well, in stock market , nothing is impossible.
I will stick to my plan because this company's earnings will be reflected from 2008 onwards. Too many times, I sold my good stocks too early (hit & run) & earned lesser than stocks(good potential stock) that I held.
But if you think you have earned enough, why not sell?

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SPSETIA announced bonus issues

Buy 2 free 1

price surged today, wow
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entered SINOPEC-C1 20@0.305 discount now !!!
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entered SINOPEC-C1 20@0.305  discount now !!!
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wow buying at the highest (for this moment) tongue.gif

i'm with ya biggrin.gif
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entered SINOPEC-C1 20@0.305  discount now !!!
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LOL!!! you should have bought from me. Just sold at 0.285!!!
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Sold SapCres @ 1.69, Pana you still holding?
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not yet ohh


QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 6 2007, 11:42 AM)
eh? With all the good news that came in November (wrong timing) for Sapcres, no boost up confidence,kah?
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i am with you, too

will only sell if it goes above 2.00 (be it possible or impossible, afterall they are paid) tongue.gif

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LOL!!! you should have bought from me. Just sold at 0.285!!!
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wooo heartache now? tongue.gif

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wow buying at the highest (for this moment) tongue.gif

i'm with ya biggrin.gif
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you also grab ? how many and how much ?
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you also grab ? how many and how much ?
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1 month ago @ 0.36

kakakakak!

ohyah, SINOPEC mothershares is up up in HK, monitor it

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=0386.HK

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wooo heartache now? tongue.gif
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No heartache... Reach TP already... Fear when others greed...

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Shanghai - 5,020.85 | 21.81 (0.43%)
HSI - 29,605.99 | 260.54 (0.89%)
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Sinopec-C1 at 0.280
Sinopec-C2 at 0.155
Sinopec-C3 at 0.135  -> managed to sold it just now  rclxm9.gif

When I say all sinopec, means all C1,C2 and C3  laugh.gif
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Update on my sinopec biggrin.gif ...
Sinopec-C1: bought 0.260 sold 0.295
Sinopec-C2: bought 0.145 sold 0.165
Sinopec-C3: buy again yesterday at 0.130 sold 0.150
rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Now can cover back all my loses on BOC-c1....

Don't know whether want to go in again for Sinopec or not...

DJI Future at +44 now

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I reckon he is talking about 300 lots of old old system (300 x 1000), as most old timers in the market still treat 1 lot= 1000.

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So the volume given in iTrade CIMB is actually x100units or x1000units ? Thank you in advance.
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So the volume given in iTrade CIMB is actually x100units or x1000units ? Thank you in advance.
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It's 100units, it is also shown next to the box you enter the number of lots wink.gif
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 6 2007, 01:22 PM)
Update on my sinopec  biggrin.gif  ...
Sinopec-C1: bought 0.260 sold 0.295 
Sinopec-C2: bought 0.145 sold 0.165 
Sinopec-C3: buy again yesterday at 0.130 sold 0.150 
rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Now can cover back all my loses on BOC-c1....

Don't know whether want to go in again for Sinopec or not...

DJI Future at +44 now
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tsarena, come get SINOPEC brows.gif

SINOPEC CHART

closed at HK$ 12.68 (Up 0.52, 4.28%)

based on the chart, if SINOPEC price break HK $13.00, it should be able to go between 0.36 - 0.40 (which is also Oct peak before it drop down to HK$ 10.00)
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It's 100units, it is also shown next to the box you enter the number of lots wink.gif
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I know about that. What I'm referring to was the Volume shown in the main trading hall screen. Is it x100 units or in 1 lot (x1000units)?
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wow...sapcres breakout from down trend...


jus notice it still movin in triangle... i will buy if it able to break d triangle


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wah......i went to a conference just now....now lunch time and wow wow....sapcres buddy....u r back...give me some paper profit liao! yahoo.....dialog buddy doing well also! good good.......

miss the exciting trading in the morning session.......need to continue with my conference soon.........

hope everything go up somemore later in the afternoon session!


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go go go....

SINOPEC-C1
BURSA-CE
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quik quik... !
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DJ Future +51 and keep going up.. Tomorrow gonna be another day for buyer !!
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HK HSBC up quite alot, no wonder hsbc-c1 surge this morning. anyone still holding hsbc-c1 ?
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IOICORP back to 7.15, fast fast sell....
I dont think will stay there for long...
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market up all 3 LION down sad.gif
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Anyone buying HSBC-C1 at 1.5 sen?

Expiring Jan '08.
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i m in the Q of hsbc-c1 at 0.015 for 2000lots,, but stil couldn;t get it
waited for hours already
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IOICORP back to 7.15, fast fast sell....
I dont think will stay there for long...
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fuyoh.... ioicorp now back to 7.15..... got syndicate goreng the counter???? the huge volume buying ioicorp...
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market up all 3 LION down sad.gif
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PARKSON & the 3 LION has been up for days rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 03:54 PM)
HK HSBC up quite alot, no wonder hsbc-c1 surge this morning. anyone still holding hsbc-c1 ?
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HSBC premium is how much?


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i m in the Q of hsbc-c1 at 0.015  for 2000lots,, but stil couldn;t get it
waited for hours already
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Volume for today is thin, ain't it?
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i m in the Q of hsbc-c1 at 0.015  for 2000lots,, but stil couldn;t get it
waited for hours already
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Buy so much ohmy.gif

Up/Down 1cent also u feel like dying....
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HSBC premium is how much?
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Out of money, going to expire this month.

HSBC is HKD 133.60, exercise price should be around HKD 152 something, if not mistaken.

Judge you own.


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Buy so much  ohmy.gif

Up/Down 1cent also u feel like dying....
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Actually not much, it is just RM0.015 after all.

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Today I bought HSI-C1...
Seem like whenever I buy this one it will curse it...
Bought @ 1.28, even till now still got negative premium yet no movement... even when HSI approach 30K it gives little away... I think investor are more interested in the smaller sized HSI C2 n C3.


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Out of money, going to expire this month.

HSBC is HKD 133.60, exercise price should be around HKD 152 something, if not mistaken.

Judge you own.


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:36 pm

Actually not much, it is just RM0.015 after all.
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I know la... but at 2000lots (2million unit) thats massive...

Even with 300lots, he make Rm3k... 2000 lots means 20k profit or loss if +/- 1 cent... if thats not great then what is

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Today I bought HSI-C1...
Seem like whenever I buy this one it will curse it...
Bought @ 1.28, even till now still got negative premium yet no movement... even when HSI approach 30K it gives little away... I think investor are more interested in the smaller sized HSI C2 n C3.

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you are funny guy la seriously laugh.gif

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u bought at the highest price of today. too bad. People like me will only go for SHI c2 and C3, as it is cheaper, i can buy more and "Up/Down 1cent also u feel like dying...."
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 04:42 PM)
u bought at the highest price of today. too bad. People like me will only go for SHI c2 and C3, as it is cheaper, i can buy more and "Up/Down 1cent also u feel like dying...."
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Its ok... calculated...
Based on HSI closing, its worth 1.25 at least...
Its like that... when C2 and C3 hot, C1 will be abandon...
But I like it... cos at least got value...
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DJ future coming down now at +27 only compare this afternoon 57+. better let go all my share c watch the thunderstorm coming.


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:47 pmsigh,, hsbc-c1 back to 0.02.. still in the Q at 0.015

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:42 PM)
you are funny guy la seriously laugh.gif
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My total loss to date is RM1.9k....
I allocated RM3k so RM1.1k left...

See if HSI-C1 will loot all my saving or give me something back tomorrow...


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:48 pm
QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 04:46 PM)
DJ future coming down now at +27 only compare this afternoon 57+. better let go all my share c watch the thunderstorm coming.


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:47 pmsigh,, hsbc-c1 back to 0.02..  still in the Q at 0.015
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What la u...
Thunderstorm coming and you are still queueing for what...

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you said you bought HSI-C1 at 1.28, that is the highest price for today sweat.gif

and it has come down to 1.20 now sweat.gif
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biggrin.gif.. this share wont dip too much as it is already at such low price. Anyway dont think today can get it. Hopefully tomorrow it will drop to 0.01.
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Bought Sinopec-C1 and PetroChina-C1....

Negative premium... see whats up tomorrow...

Signing off...
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 6 2007, 04:47 PM)
My total loss to date is RM1.9k....
I allocated RM3k so RM1.1k left...
i oso lost all my 3k speculating funds in Sep ... then disappear from stock market and earn another extra 3K ... now back again to play fast fast before 31 dec biggrin.gif
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if market were to tumble on tomorrow

i am sure SINOPEC will be the first one to kena kao kao

afterall it has been going up from 0.2x to 0.3x

sigh sigh
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:50 PM)
@kapitan

you said you bought HSI-C1 at 1.28, that is the highest price for today sweat.gif

and it has come down to 1.20 now sweat.gif
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Negative premium lor...
That day also same when I made RM200++...

Im prepared la this time...
Worse come worse loss the balance RM1.1k nia...
Then save again lar... will be back next year...
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:53 PM)
if market were to tumble on tomorrow

i am sure SINOPEC will be the first one to kena kao kao

afterall it has been going up from 0.2x to 0.3x

sigh sigh
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Hmm... yalor...
But then again, with negative premium, I think drop also 1-2cent nia...
I only got 5lots...


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:55 pm
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:53 PM)
if market were to tumble on tomorrow

i am sure SINOPEC will be the first one to kena kao kao

afterall it has been going up from 0.2x to 0.3x

sigh sigh
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CNOOC lagi keng le...

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 6 2007, 04:38 PM)
Today I bought HSI-C1...
Seem like whenever I buy this one it will curse it...
Bought @ 1.28, even till now still got negative premium yet no movement... even when HSI approach 30K it gives little away... I think investor are more interested in the smaller sized HSI C2 n C3.


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:41 pm

I know la... but at 2000lots (2million unit) thats massive...

Even with 300lots, he make Rm3k... 2000 lots means 20k profit or loss if +/- 1 cent... if thats not great then what is
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I bought HSI-C2 at 0.185 and the price still not moving much... see tmr

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 6 2007, 04:55 PM)
Hmm... yalor...
But then again, with negative premium, I think drop also 1-2cent nia...
I only got 5lots...


Added on December 6, 2007, 4:55 pm

CNOOC lagi keng le...
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what's up with CNOOC?

today CNOOC mothershares drop, CNOOC-C1 not moving much today
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both my BURSA-CE and SINOPEC-C1 close 2cents lower den its highest, haizzz sien tiao....
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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 6 2007, 05:03 PM)
both my BURSA-CE and SINOPEC-C1 close 2cents lower den its highest, haizzz sien tiao....
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Dec 6 2007, 04:44 PM)
Its ok... calculated...
Based on HSI closing, its worth 1.25 at least...
Its like that... when C2 and C3 hot, C1 will be abandon...
But I like it... cos at least got value...
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C1 has the shorter lifespan, expire 29 Feb 2008, while C2 and C3 has longer lifespan expire at May and June respectively. So theorectical, C2 and C3 has more 'value' in it.

Yup, sometimes people will choose the 'cheaper' price one for entry level. People will have the mentality (not necessary correct, just people tend to have that view), C1 is Rm1.20 while C2 and C3 is 0.1x and 0.2x. People will choose the C2 and C3. They think from 0.2 to 0.3 they can gain 50%, it is similar to the HSBC-C1 case, from 0.015 to 0.025, you already can gain more than 50%. By right, all are the same if the CW gearing is the same.

By right at negative premium, C1 is more worth to play but still people will go after the 'cheaper' one although it is not really 'cheap'.
In term of value, C1 is actually the cheaper alternative.

Btw, I wonder why IOI shoot up, CPO price is plugning quite heavily, drop more than 50-60 across various months.

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go GPA go......today quite a good day smile.gif hooray!
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this counter need syndicate to chao la... no fundamental one.. jus goreng only...
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i aim BURSA-CE 10@0.400 SINOPEC-C1 20@0.35...al tak jadi....looks like got to wait lo
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 6 2007, 05:17 PM)
Btw, I wonder why IOI shoot up, CPO price is plugning quite heavily, drop more than 50-60 across various months.
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goreng goreng? unsure.gif


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i aim BURSA-CE 10@0.400 SINOPEC-C1 20@0.35...al tak jadi....looks like got to wait lo
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72 hours more to T+3, no scare laugh.gif
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euro is green currently...
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tomorrow is for me to unload....all CH-CW are going off...before the big day...
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Erm..any special news? Why want to unload it?
FED will announce rate cut on next Tuesday. On next Wed, our KLCI will rally up..
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afraid just like Oct rate cut where on next day morning after few 15mins trading, KLCI drop kao kao.
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with all the news here and there....once i made some i am letting go....den next move is to aim those UMNO linked counters....
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If tonite DJ surge sharply again, tomorrow go for HSBC-c1 again.. Go Q at 0.015 and 0.01, i think you should be able to earn some if u can take the risk
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 07:02 PM)
If tonite DJ surge sharply again, tomorrow go for HSBC-c1 again.. Go Q at 0.015 and 0.01, i think you should be able to earn some if u can take the risk
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i wanna queue at 0.005 tongue.gif
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If later DJ surge, i dont think it will down to 0.005, it just too early tongue.gif
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If later DJ surge, i dont think it will down to 0.005, it just too early tongue.gif
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hehe i was just kidding, not buying in anyway tongue.gif

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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 07:02 PM)
If tonite DJ surge sharply again, tomorrow go for HSBC-c1 again.. Go Q at 0.015 and 0.01, i think you should be able to earn some if u can take the risk
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It depends, as the CW is going to expire, the CW itself will track its mothershare closely or tightly, no matter what happens to the market. If mothershare doesn't rise or rise enough to make it possible to be 'in money' then its CW won't go anywhere either.
So better monitor the movement of HSBC mothershare to judge the HSBC-C1.

Just my 2 cents.


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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 05:19 PM)
i m in the Q of hsbc-c1 at 0.015  for 2000lots,, but stil couldn;t get it
waited for hours already
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can i ask a noob question.

why do u buy a warrant thats gonna expire 7 dec 2007, mean next monday. What happen to ur money when it got expired?

So far i bought
BjcorpLC,
BjcorpLC
Bjcorp.

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hsbc-c1 wil expired on january 2007, not this month.

(i) HSBC-C1 will be expiring at 5.00 p.m. on Friday, 4 January 2008.

(ii) Trading in HSBC-C1 will be suspended with effect from 9.00 a.m.,
Wednesday, 2 January 2008 in order to facilitate the delisting of HSBC-C1
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(iii) HSBC-C1 will be removed from the Official List of Bursa Malaysia
Securities Berhad with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 7 January 2008.

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QUOTE(jojoe @ Dec 6 2007, 05:20 PM)
fuyoh.... ioicorp now back to 7.15..... got syndicate goreng the counter???? the huge volume buying ioicorp...
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how do u see huge volume buys?

gee.. am i missing something here. Using Maybank on9 stock to monitor...

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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 11:22 PM)
hsbc-c1 wil expired on january 2007, not this month.

(i) HSBC-C1  will be expiring at 5.00 p.m. on Friday, 4 January  2008.

(ii) Trading in HSBC-C1 will be suspended with effect from 9.00 a.m.,
Wednesday, 2 January 2008 in order to facilitate the delisting of HSBC-C1
arising from the expiry.

(iii) HSBC-C1  will be removed from the Official List of Bursa Malaysia
Securities Berhad with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 7 January  2008.
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oh.. my eyes playing trick on me again...

what happen to ur money if it got expired?
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QUOTE(pubee @ Dec 6 2007, 10:47 PM)
oh.. my eyes playing trick on me again...

what happen to ur money if it got expired?
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your money will disappear , kaput, burnt & gone with the wind.....
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got 1 more month... hmm

can buy or not HSBC-c1.... tomorrow can go up?
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QUOTE(pubee @ Dec 6 2007, 11:01 PM)
got 1 more month... hmm

can buy or not HSBC-c1.... tomorrow can go up?
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its completely a gamble, not investing.
Tomorrow up or down depends on our market sentiment which relies on US & regional markets' performance.


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US stocks moving up in early trading: DJIA +24.63  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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Got some line of hope for our market tomorrow tongue.gif

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Anyone has the IPO info for APPLE-C1 ? Apple Share in US keep going up.


Added on December 6, 2007, 11:12 pmJust like the Sinopec-C1, it is a gamble as well as it's expiry date is around the corner. Normally 1 month b4 those Well known CW expire, ppl will goreng on it. Good example, Bursa-CD, i bought at 0.005 and sold at 0.05 !! that is 10 fold (in bursa pursuit biggrin.gif:D:D)


Added on December 6, 2007, 11:13 pmJust like the Sinopec-C1, it is a gamble as well as it's expiry date is around the corner. Normally 1 month b4 those Well known CW expire, ppl will goreng on it(especially its mother share is performing). Good example, Bursa-CD, i bought at 0.005 and sold at 0.05 !! that is 10 fold (in bursa pursuit biggrin.gif:D:D)

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i've been thinking buying SIME 5 lots.... so X. Today wanted to buy but agent on leave.. end up it went up b4 i hv chance. .. haiz. btw i working office hour.

where u get the US market news de...
tell me?

tomorrow morning 9am open market... can i login 8.30 n buy n wait it open?

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you can ask ur agent to Q for you. before market open. If you agent is slow, you probably wil be Q'ing at the back biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pubee @ Dec 6 2007, 11:14 PM)
i've been thinking buying SIME 5 lots.... so X. Today wanted to buy but agent on leave.. end up it went up b4 i hv chance. .. haiz. btw i working office hour.

where u get the US market news de...
tell me?

tomorrow morning 9am open market... can i login 8.30 n buy n wait it open?
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Look up in Google or Bloomberg.com. There's plenty of information online.

If you have a remisier, you can ask him or her to place in the order for you once the market opens.
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tomorrow how...

thinking of
SIME
or AirAsia (wanna hedge fuel for future rises) <-- got wat effect de?
or BJcorp again.. dont know why... it always moving
or MahSing... newspaper always comes out.



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QUOTE(pubee @ Dec 6 2007, 11:24 PM)
tomorrow how...

thinking of
SIME 
or AirAsia (wanna hedge fuel for future rises) <-- got wat effect de?
or BJcorp again.. dont know why... it always moving
or MahSing... newspaper always comes out.
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Airasia will affected less than MAS if oil price keep in the high range, so I went for Airasia at 1.75.
Mahsing have many unbilled sales and disposals, you can try to get it but it wont be a fast one, I got it at 1.68.
No time to monitor, so just let it be.
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Today hope HSI cheong pass 30k and my HSI-C1 will cheong pass 1.35.
Sinopec C1 and PetroChina please cheong till 0.34 and 0.50...

Fark... teruse my sis account again...
kapitan here...

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QUOTE(pubee @ Dec 6 2007, 11:24 PM)
tomorrow how...

thinking of
SIME 
or AirAsia (wanna hedge fuel for future rises) <-- got wat effect de?
or BJcorp again.. dont know why... it always moving
or MahSing... newspaper always comes out.
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Mahsing is good as reported in newspapers.
I think its downtrend is already over & resuming price recovery. I hv 5000 units

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Today is the day for HSBC-C1 !!


Added on December 7, 2007, 8:24 amanyone notice that LCL has been performing in recently year, I have been monitoring it since it was RM2.20 a year ago, but now already up to RM7 and still got plenty of space to go up. This company award many big project from oversea especially from Dubai. Worth your attention.

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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 7 2007, 08:21 AM)
Today is the day for HSBC-C1 !!


Added on December 7, 2007, 8:24 amanyone notice that LCL has been performing in recently year, I have been monitoring it since it was RM2.20 a year ago, but now already up to RM7 and still got plenty of space to go up. This company award many big project from oversea especially from Dubai. Worth your attention.
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are you getting HSCS-C1 today?
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yup, already in the Q at 0.015 and 0.001. I buy more at 0.001 jsut in case it drop to that price. Trade at your own risk smile.gif


Added on December 7, 2007, 8:38 amoops, is 0.01

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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 7 2007, 08:33 AM)
yup, already in the Q at 0.015 and 0.001. I buy more at 0.001 jsut in case it drop to that price. Trade at your own risk smile.gif
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tongue.gif I'm not buying anyway, just curious. Gud luck
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 7 2007, 08:01 AM)
Mahsing is good as reported in newspapers.
I think its downtrend is already over & resuming price recovery.  I hv 5000 units
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You also have Mahsing? What do you think of it? Any TP for this?
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You also have Mahsing? What do you think of it? Any TP for this?
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Many good research reports on this ( business times/star business/ the edge etc)



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Hello. Long time no come in...
Seems like you guys all make good money.

Anyway, I'm still holding some dumbo shares... iris and UEMBlder
Both went down and down.


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SINOPEC horseh laio...
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getting more & more HKCW in the market, aiseh man
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 7 2007, 09:17 AM)
CNOOC-C2 & HKEX-C6 list today

getting more & more HKCW in the market, aiseh man
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Added on December 7, 2007, 9:24 amhai...lose steam liao sad.gif ...back to work la...hahahahhaa

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just unload my PETROCH-C5 10@0.100 keep so long ady.....nor moving sell lo


Added on December 7, 2007, 9:28 amnext to go are these:

CHMOBIL-C5
ICBC-C5
CHEUNGK-C1
BURSA-CE
SINOPEC-C1


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just unload my PETROCH-C5 10@0.100 keep so long ady.....nor moving sell lo
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PETROCH-C5 has a lot of volume, but no significant movement
i oso dunno why...
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Waaa, HSBC-C1 now 0.025, how nice if my order is done at 0.015 this morning
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going to start Q-ing for my SINOPEC wanna cabut jor...
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:41 AM

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Sinopec 0.330 liao...
Sold at 0.325 liao...
Scare le... going much higher liao...
Pana syok la...

Deng... kapitan here...


Added on December 7, 2007, 9:43 amPetroChina C1 also unload @ 0.4600 liao....

Now wait HSI-C1 cheong then can enjoy stress free weekend...

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:45 AM

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15min after 10 will let me know the fate of SINOPEC
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:46 AM

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yah wait for HSI to open

two days ago DJIA closed at +190++, but HSI up 300++ only

wonder how's the fate today

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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 7 2007, 09:45 AM)
15min after 10 will let me know the fate of SINOPEC
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what price you intend to sell, looks like you may get what you wish, the markets are good.
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:49 AM

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i plan to sell at 0.35.....cause i grab 20@0.305


Added on December 7, 2007, 9:50 am
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 7 2007, 09:46 AM)
yah wait for HSI to open

two days ago DJIA closed at +190++, but HSI up 300++ only

wonder how's the fate today
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today might be the day !!!! the burst and run run run run ............

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 7 2007, 09:49 AM)
i plan to sell at 0.35.....cause i grab 20@0.305
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I sold jor, so I think will up again... my curse is your gain...

HSI-C3 @ 0.325 ....

Had I hold onto my 50lots, I would have made 5k by now...

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strong resistance level at 0.330, for SINOPEC

cant break it....
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QUOTE(dh007014 @ Dec 7 2007, 09:51 AM)
I sold jor, so I think will up again... my curse is your gain...

HSI-C3 @ 0.325 ....

Had I hold onto my 50lots, I would have made 5k by now...
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lol why dun wan to log in as kapitan laugh.gif
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:57 AM

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Kan cheong time... HSI pls break 30K....
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why suddenly market put on brakes?
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:59 AM

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ICBC done 10@0.075 .....2nd sale of the day

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