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panasonic88
post Dec 10 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(4throttle @ Dec 10 2007, 05:00 PM)
lor..
i wait 4 u ma..
u the taiko..
also the guru..
then i should listen 2 u laa.. rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 10 2007, 05:02 PM)
HSBC-C1 close at 0.015, sigh, didn't manage to get it at 0.01. I was at the back of the Q.
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QUOTE(ipohfly @ Dec 10 2007, 05:02 PM)
the lesson 2 sounds like Graham's "Margin of Safety" to me tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 05:10 PM

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I think they will cut rates, but have to depend on how much rates they are cutting. If it's 0.5 percent as predicted by analyst today, I really have doubts. But hopefully the investors will not be put off by this.
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post Dec 10 2007, 05:13 PM

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pana...u still holding ur oil counters??? do u think it is wise to wait a while or sell it fast n exit before X'Mas?

act i'ved breakeven for those counters for now....
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post Dec 10 2007, 05:14 PM

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haha i'm not new, but not too active here... din notice this thread before, if not should be in here long ago..hahaha tongue.gif


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post Dec 10 2007, 05:14 PM

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i just dun wan the history repeating itself

during the 2nd time rate cut in late sept, US up, HSI up, we went down kao kao, that's hurts! sad.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Dec 10 2007, 05:13 PM)
pana...u still holding ur oil counters??? do u think it is wise to wait a while or sell it fast n exit before X'Mas?

act i'ved breakeven for those counters for now....
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yeah still holding
i am a bit conscious & aware of maturity date now
dun feel like keeping call warrants anymore sad.gif

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DIALOG - hold & keep
SAPCRES - hold & keep


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SINOPEC - hold, but will sell soon
CNOOC - hold, but will sell soon

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post Dec 10 2007, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(gtghost @ Dec 10 2007, 05:10 PM)
I think they will cut rates, but have to depend on how much rates they are cutting. If it's 0.5 percent as predicted by analyst today, I really have doubts. But hopefully the investors will not be put off by this.
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probably will cut 0.25 nia lah.
cut 0.5 is a lot leh

hope IOI this round will down till 6-6.50 level. so that i can make some angpow $
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Yah, thats why I don't like KLCI. I mean, WTF is that when all market up the local one went down. Really boleh. How to play like that......Advertise in the papers how good the stocks are, how undervalued they are, when investor buys it, BAM it goes down.
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post Dec 10 2007, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(gtghost @ Dec 10 2007, 05:10 PM)
I think they will cut rates, but have to depend on how much rates they are cutting. If it's 0.5 percent as predicted by analyst today, I really have doubts. But hopefully the investors will not be put off by this.
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The market already anticipate a 0.25% cut. If no cut, market will tumble.

Having said that, I (personally only) still think the rate cut is not the magic medicine for the subprime and real estate problem in US.
It needs time, not quick fix. Since when crisis in whatever sector can be solved within weeks? It takes months and years to recover.

As long as the subprime issue is contained in real estate and financial sector, equities market should be ok, but if it does spill over to broader economy especially consumers spending power then economy and equities will have rough and tough road ahead.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 10 2007, 05:18 PM)
The market already anticipate a 0.25% cut. If no cut, market will tumble.

Having said that, I (personally only) still think the rate cut is not the magic medicine for the subprime and real estate problem in US.
It needs time, not quick fix. Since when crisis in whatever sector can be solved within weeks? It takes months and years to recover.

As long as the subprime issue is contained in real estate and financial sector, equities market should be ok, but if it does spill over to broader economy especially consumers spending power then economy and equities will have rough and tough road ahead.
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For contra players like me, I welcome that kind of news, even for a short term one. A cut is better than no cut. So I guess it is still good news for certain investors, but since the trend is like this, I guess market will be a wavy pattern even hard to predict. rclxub.gif


Added on December 10, 2007, 5:26 pmSomething for you to read. wink.gif Signing off to get a good rest. Tommorrow FIGHTO!

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yo...B1vk0c.Jj67YWsA

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panasonic88
post Dec 10 2007, 05:29 PM

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small heart ppl like me prefer to have cash in hand & stand aside & watch...

let's have some mentally prepared first

"IN CASE" no rate cut, i can imagine U.S will tumble kao kao, and direct impact will fall on other regions, HSI, STI, KLCI etc etc etc, followed by a free flow & discounts sweat.gif

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post Dec 10 2007, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 10 2007, 06:29 PM)
small heart ppl like me prefer to have cash in hand & stand aside & watch...

let's have some mentally prepared first

"IN CASE" no rate cut, i can imagine U.S will tumble kao kao, and direct impact will fall on other regions, HSI, STI, KLCI etc etc etc, followed by a free flow & discounts sweat.gif
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i think there will be a cut around 0.25 or 0.5 ............i just matter of how many points ??????? sweat.gif yawn.gif

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post Dec 10 2007, 05:38 PM

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Wow...
So many with big losses for only one counter...

Man, HSI already correction on Friday you all still not scared meh...
HSI has risen more than 10% for the last 2 weeks le, on basically nothing but good sales on the US Thanksgiving and ratecut rumors.

I think will ding dong once again and wait till S&P tumble another 10%, another round of correction and chrismax rally then stock market will drop like hell liao... next year no eye see...
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Euro marts are up. Hope DJ will be green tonite. Then tml, good listing for Apple & EOX.

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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Dec 10 2007, 05:17 PM)
probably will cut 0.25 nia lah.
cut 0.5 is a lot leh

hope IOI this round will down till 6-6.50 level. so that i can make some angpow $
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yumme yumme..... ioicorp go down more more more....
what a fantastic drop today.....
what price you wanna buy in???
i doubt it can drop to 6.5.... i think i will buy at below 7.7...
what do you think? brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Dec 10 2007, 06:52 PM)
yumme yumme..... ioicorp go down more more more....
what a fantastic drop today.....
what price you wanna buy in???
i doubt it can drop to 6.5.... i think i will buy at below 7.7...
what do you think? brows.gif  brows.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 06:32 PM

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Futures regains, +17.00

yay, atleast it is not red biggrin.gif

and yuppie, europe shares are up too
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that means the good rate cut is quite highly likely .........
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post Dec 10 2007, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 10 2007, 06:35 PM)
that means the good rate cut is quite highly likely .........
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25 basis point, everywhere i read rolleyes.gif

but the surprise & impact will not be strong anymore (as it is an open-secret already)
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post Dec 10 2007, 06:42 PM

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i wonder what is the outcome for BURSA shares
no news after the suspension? unsure.gif

wow imagine, BURSA shooting up to 20.00 laugh.gif

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