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sharesa
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Dec 10 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:31 PM) expiry is near alraedy, especially the CE  which make me wan to sell it asap, really feel relief after sold, as i really can't guarantee the price will stay high like what it is on today  maybe you did a right move.
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panasonic88
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Dec 10 2007, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 10 2007, 04:27 PM) one thing I want to complain is that the battle with stocks & shares is not easy for me. They are tricky, elusive, evasive & they are like having a life of its own! right, seriously i feel tired  i need to change my strategy again, going for high dividend yeild & bluechips next QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 10 2007, 04:27 PM) me still keeping SINOPEC...haizzz.... gua jugak...sigh
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kinwawa
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Dec 10 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:24 PM) anyway, reporting my loses, too sold BURSA CE, CF & DIALOG, lose 300 bucks p/s: DIALOG fans, i am still with you, i only sell partial of my DIALOG shares only  Ya....i'm still holding! hahhahaa......waiting for it to go up one more round then can sell lo.....
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4throttle
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Dec 10 2007, 04:43 PM
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me lagi teruk.. buy gamuda-cd at 0.105@35000.. now only 0.02.. wow.. what a lost..
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c0c0nut
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Dec 10 2007, 04:43 PM
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trying to sell 4.8@0.280....den keep 10 for good day tomorrow !!!! hahahaha
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gtghost
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Dec 10 2007, 04:44 PM
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Dec. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil fell for a second day in New York on speculation slowing U.S. economic growth may limit demand as fuel stockpiles rise.
Oil dropped as much as 0.8 percent as financial futures trading on the Chicago Board of Trade showed a 74 percent likelihood the U.S. Federal Reserve will cut interest rates a quarter-point tomorrow to avoid a recession. OPEC last week left its output targets unchanged, citing the risk of slowing demand growth in the world's largest oil consumer.
``If the U.S. needs to cut its interest rates, it means that the near-term economic outlook is not so good,'' said Tetsu Emori, a fund manager at Astmax Futures Ltd. in Tokyo. ``The rate cut may avert a credit crisis in the first half of next year but probably would not help the economy in the second half and oil consumption is unlikely to grow.''
Crude oil for January delivery declined as much as 70 cents to $87.58 a barrel in after-hours electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. It was at $87.70 at 4:02 p.m. in Singapore.
The contract fell $1.95, or 2.2 percent, to $88.28 on Dec. 7, taking its decline for the week to 0.5 percent. Prices today are down 11 percent from the record $99.29 reached on Nov. 21.
Housing Weakness
The number of Americans signing contracts to buy previously owned homes probably fell in October to the lowest in at least six years, pointing to further weakness in housing. The National Association of Realtors' index of pending home sales decreased 1 percent, according to the median estimate of 23 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News.
The jump in mortgage delinquencies and foreclosures has made it more difficult for some prospective buyers to get financing. Federal Reserve policy makers, who've said they are concerned the turmoil in credit markets will limit lending, are forecast to lower the benchmark interest rate tomorrow.
Oil dropped as low as $85.82 last week after the Energy Department's weekly stockpile report showed U.S. fuel stockpiles surged the week before as demand eased and refinery operating rates held at a 10-week high. Gasoline inventories jumped four times as much as analysts expected and demand for all fuels fell 0.3 percent to 20.8 million barrels a day.
OPEC's Capacity
The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries has spare output capacity of between 3 million barrels a day and 4 million barrels a day, Secretary General Abdalla el-Badri said on Dec. 4.
``There are no bullish factors,'' Astmax's Emori said. ``U.S. stockpiles are adequate, OPEC's spare production capacity is more than 3 million barrels a day and global oil demand growth for next year is probably less than 2 percent.''
Brent crude oil for January settlement on the London-based ICE Futures Europe exchange declined as much as 70 cents, or 0.8 percent, to $87.94 a barrel and traded at $88.17 at 4:07 p.m. in Singapore.
``There's probably some uncertainty in the market as to just how tight things actually are,'' said David Moore, commodity strategist at Commonwealth Bank of Australia Ltd. in Sydney. ``You've got the Fed meeting on the 11th. That seems to be well and truly priced into the market, a rate cut there, but that could be a point of some volatility.''
Oil Cheap?
Many investors consider $85 cheap for oil, said Gerard Burg, energy and minerals economist at National Australia Bank Ltd. in Melbourne. The market is entering the peak winter demand period and oil is likely to trade between $85 and $95.
``If we see a cold winter, then it's likely that crude prices could push considerably higher,'' Burg said.
Global demand peaks in the fourth quarter as refiners make heating fuel for the Northern Hemisphere winter. Average demand will reach 87.1 million barrels a day during the quarter, up from 85.3 million in the preceding three months, the International Energy Agency said Nov. 13.
Temperatures in much of the U.S. Northeast, the nation's biggest heating oil-consuming region, may fall below average during the next two weeks, the National Weather Service forecast yesterday.
Source: Bloomberg.com
Hm, hopefully this will be a very cold winter for them so they use more oil and push up the oil prices LOL.
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sharesa
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Dec 10 2007, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(4throttle @ Dec 10 2007, 04:43 PM) me lagi teruk.. buy gamuda-cd at 0.105@35000.. now only 0.02.. wow.. what a lost.. that's a lot
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4throttle
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Dec 10 2007, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 10 2007, 04:44 PM) that's a lot  cannot do anything lor.. nothing to regret...
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gtghost
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Dec 10 2007, 04:47 PM
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But din cut loss? Apasal?
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kinwawa
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Dec 10 2007, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 10 2007, 04:44 PM) that's a lot  walauyeh.....what's your plan????
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panasonic88
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Dec 10 2007, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(4throttle @ Dec 10 2007, 04:43 PM) me lagi teruk.. buy gamuda-cd at 0.105@35000.. now only 0.02.. wow.. what a lost.. you reminded me i am waiting for GAMUDA to rebound, the babies will follow, highest i have seen was 0.065 that was the time when the mothershare rebounce strongly from 3.7xx to 4.1xx i didnt sell that time, i thought it can go up further but time is running out, sien jor
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4throttle
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Dec 10 2007, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(gtghost @ Dec 10 2007, 04:47 PM) But din cut loss? Apasal? 1. work round a clock.. 2. forgot lor that i have a shares.. 3. now get the pain..
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sharesa
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Dec 10 2007, 04:49 PM
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next time everybody boycott all the CWs, since at the end of the day, most retail investors lose out.
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4throttle
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Dec 10 2007, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Dec 10 2007, 04:47 PM) walauyeh.....what's your plan???? just wait till next week.. then throw away.. close half of my eyes then..
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gtghost
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Dec 10 2007, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 10 2007, 04:49 PM) next time everybody boycott all the CWs, since at the end of the day, most retail investors lose out. I don't know why, been monitoring KLCI shares since I started playing, not really my type of game plan. Very little confidence in it, unless you have strong bullets for bluechips
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panasonic88
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Dec 10 2007, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 10 2007, 04:49 PM) next time everybody boycott all the CWs, since at the end of the day, most retail investors lose out. i paid to learn lesson 1 : dun keep the CW for more than 2 days (best is day trade) lesson 2 : know where to set the line to CUT LOST (very important!) QUOTE(4throttle @ Dec 10 2007, 04:51 PM) just wait till next week.. then throw away.. close half of my eyes then..  throw punya masa, buzz buzz me la
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4throttle
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Dec 10 2007, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:58 PM) i paid to learn lesson 1 : dun keep the CW for more than 2 days (best is day trade) lesson 2 : know where to set the line to CUT LOST (very important!) throw punya masa, buzz buzz me la lor.. i wait 4 u ma.. u the taiko.. also the guru.. then i should listen 2 u laa..
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alivecmh
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Dec 10 2007, 05:02 PM
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HSBC-C1 close at 0.015, sigh, didn't manage to get it at 0.01. I was at the back of the Q.
This post has been edited by alivecmh: Dec 10 2007, 05:02 PM
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ipohfly
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Dec 10 2007, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:58 PM) i paid to learn lesson 1 : dun keep the CW for more than 2 days (best is day trade) lesson 2 : know where to set the line to CUT LOST (very important!) throw punya masa, buzz buzz me la the lesson 2 sounds like Graham's "Margin of Safety" to me
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panasonic88
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Dec 10 2007, 05:04 PM
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bloomberg futures : -40.00
let's predict
if everyone is positive that fed will cut rates on tomorrow (tuesday) night we can see a positive futures on tomorrow so maybe tomorrow (afternoon session) will be a good time to sell
next to go in my list : SINOPEC & CNOOC
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