1. No, the anySIM/IPSF soft-unlocking methods will not be required after using an xSIM. However, a jailbreak is still required in order to bypass activation and gain access to the iPhone's file system.

2. There is still no exact idea on HOW official apps will be installed on the iPhone with the SDK coming Feb '08. But yeah, it will basically replace the jailbreaking + Installer.app system we're relying on at the moment...

3. The jailbreaking method for ANY 1.1.2 is the same, may it be BL 4.6 or 3.9. The only difference is that BL 3.9 phones can be soft-unlocked after the jailbreak, whereas 4.6 phones will have to rely on the xSIM method. Basically, it involves RESTORING the phone back to 1.1.1, jailbreaking 1.1.1, installing Oktoprep, the UPDATING back to to 1.1.2, where it'll be jailbroken with the Java jailbreak file. I've attached the mentioned Java file to this post, in case anyone may need it. An full guide can be found HERE

4. Yes, phones that came with 1.1.2/1.1.3 OTB mean they have the dreaded BL 4.6, which cannot be upgraded using the special patching system used by both Nate and the Dev Team's methods. This is because the baseband 04.02.13_G used by these methods cannot be soft-unlocked in the phone itself, while the 1.1.3 firmware nulls the use of xSIMs. Just FYI, both these methods involve splitting up the firmware and baseband inside the original 1.1.3 restore file and patching up only the firmware to 1.1.3 without affecting the unlocked baseband 04.02.13_G in unlocked 1.1.2 phones on BL 3.9 >>> UPDATE : I may be wrong here, checking sources now..... <<<

5. So far, 7.4.3 is considered the safest for iPhone synchronizing. Several new protocols were added in the AppleMobileDevice.dll for the 7.5 release, which had some minor effects on the phone's connectivity with a PC, buit it's still working fine overall for me. As for the latest 7.6 release, one of the most noted changes is the disabled ability to detect iPhones in restore mode, meaning we would no longer be able to restore our phones without it being set up nicely in iTunes....

This post has been edited by Samanoske Akechi: Jan 31 2008, 05:09 PM


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remember though that we can still doing force restore on 7.6 using iPHUC with extra RELEASE.dfu file. And it accesses the phone using older version of iTunes Mobile Device Service included. Just google for 'Downgrade 1.1.3' if you need that kit. Only after doing that the iTunes will then detect iPhone in Restore mode.

Of course there's no need to go to iTunes 7.6. Unless if you prefer to manually transfer tracks (not only syncing playlist) and u really need iTunes Movie Rental (hohoho...), there's really no need to make that shift.

I would wait till Apple comes out with an iPhone that is catered to the Asian wireless market, ie 3G, MMS, nice to have built in GPS, etc. Pretty sure they will only offer it to certain providers, but then again there's probably going to be unlock programs not long after the release.

But if it's really comes here, and it comes locked, myb there's no need for me to unlock then. Yup, myb there's still need for jailbreak, but for SIM unlocking I think I don't need one. As if i'm going to unlock it to switch to other provider, some features will be lacking already (such as Visual Voicemail, etc etc). Also think about network full compatibility with iPhone.

Hehehe...don't worry, it is only my opinion. Yeah everything's good if it comes unlocked. Yeah, IF it really comes here. A big IF.

Oh, also it's not about 3G and MMS that it's not to cater Asian market. Take example of Europe release of iPhone. Many of their areas are covered by 3G, but EDGE penetration is rather low. And still, iPhones are released there. Think about it.

Yup it is better if it really does come to Malaysia. As in the meantime it doesn't have covered by warranty (concerning our unlocked iPhone), it is difficult for me to recommend anyone else in my family to use iPhone. If it is really here, then it's another story. Maybe it will be here as the current gen, or maybe when gen 2 is already available. So maybe it is 3G or maybe not.

so guys basically should get the fully unlocked iphone or the unlocked ones?

make any differences?

mmmm...what do you mean by fully unlocked or unlocked?

ok basically iPhone locking mechanism comes with 2 layers, which is Activation Lock and SIM Lock.

for bypassing activation, it can be achieved with using jailbreak.

Ok, now for the SIM locking part. iPhones come with two versions of bootloader which are BL 3.9 (for iPhone 1.1.1 OTB and below) and BL 4.6 (iPhone with 1.1.2 OTB and above). So for iPhone with BL 3.9, they can be fully unlocked (provided that the jailbreak version and baseband modifier for the firmware is available). As for BL 4.6, you need to resort to sim solutions (TurboSIM, PSS SIM, HyperCard, etc etc) as this BL makes it difficult to do modifications on the baseband (the module that controls wireless connectivity), so it can't be SIM unlocked.

So if u r using fully unlocked phone, u don't need to use xxxxSIM method. But this version is rare in market now as the BL revision is done in November last year.

Ok as for recent progress, there is a way to downgrade the bootloader. it involves opening the unit itself, which might be pretty scary for us.

So, it will be not that easy to get a fully unlocked unit. maybe 9/10 of iPhones u found in market are already on BL 4.6. And the price of BL 3.9 iPhones are jacked to an unimaginable extent (found it with RM3xxx price tag).

@LaskarCinta

Appreciate your clarification there now i get the picture what is going on what 3.6 and 4.6

btw what is the version for iPhone in the M'sia market now? Most of them from US or other places?

Which SIM is good to use? there are so many different unlock sims Turbo/PSS/Hyper/Nex/Gpps something. What are the main differences between them?

will be too late to get iphone? i mean is first Q in yr2008...wait another while more will be 2nd batch of iphone parallel seller will bring in...

let say I get the 1.1.2 able to upgrade to 1.1.3 since the latest version has came out? confuse

In malaysia, most of the iPhones are from US. Coz it is cheaper and many of the sim solutions such as TurboSIM are programmed to emulate AT&T US ICCD code.

A lot of unlocking solutions are available. Some can support dual simcard, which will be more convenient. But TurboSIM is superduper expensive here. But i can't tell what's the best as i'm not using sim solution (i'm on BL3.9). But cheap alternatives are HyperCard (dual sim), PSS Sim, 3gpp Sim, etc etc. Also they may differ in its way of sim cutting.

About the timing to get the iPhone, i dunno. There's so much speculation that maybe there will be next generation of iPhone. Or maybe not.

So for updating firmware, it is not straightforward as clicking Update button in iTunes (as we want to get jailbreak working). For 1.1.1 to 1.1.2, we need to install OktoPrep first and only after that, we r safe to proceed for the Update button. As for 1.1.2 to 1.1.3, we are not updating it inside iTunes. We need to split the package into fw and bb, and then just installing the firmware without baseband being modified. FYI the baseband update inside 1.1.3 package already blows unlock from sim solutions.

i think apple iphone would official launch by end of this year probably at sep or november .. and price at Rm 2999,00 .. but not sure maybe humors only

hehehe...still remains as rumour. Still no real sign or even a small hint of its availability here.

alright seems no need to wait ~

i would like to know what im going to face while getting now iphone? (now)

does alot of unresponsive programs cant be use?
Edge connectivity? seems Apple thread there many user facing this prob?....

any other things i should take note while using iphone~ pls enlight me where im going to get it real soon~

thanks

ok let's start with firmware. usual firmware that we can find are 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 (considering new iPhones comes with 1.1.2 OTB already)

some applications are made for earlier version (such as 1.1.1) so maybe it will run or maybe not on newer fw. but no need to worry coz usually installer will tell on the app page that it is not compatible etc etc.

now about updating firmware. do not just click that shiny Update button in iTunes if u haven't done your research yet. ok as for now, you can't just update from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 in iTunes as it will lock your phone even if you are using sim solutions such as TurboSIM etc etc. The new baseband update already recognizes this type of sim bluffing and it will not access the network using that simcard. And yes, no way of turning back yet.

so u mean i cant use iTunes?

can i use iTune just to transfer MP3 to iPhone?

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Added on February 2, 2008, 2:37 pmsorry add on, what about applications that come with iphone able to use most of them?

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Added on February 2, 2008, 2:39 pmn another 1 hour im going to get mine set!
thanks for ppl whom reply my question~

This post has been edited by terencetoo: Feb 2 2008, 02:39 PM

mmm...u can still use iTunes to transfer media, phone numbers, pictures.
but as for now, u can't straightaway update to 1.1.3 inside iTunes.

Wow, that's another awesome gadget into your whole stockpile of cool stuff listed in your sig. Enjoying it so far, mate? Quickly report in your current status. Working perfect?