Hey all,

I have just the right enough amount of money to get my hands on and start using an iphone. I'm kinda new to the phone actually and looking forward on getting it.
With the release of the iphone just around the corner (Early 2008 i think? Correct me if im wrong) in Malaysia, do you guys think I should get the unlocked version now (As seen being sold widely in Garage Sales area) or wait for the official release in Malaysia and get it at any authorized dealer?
I'm also confused on whether the unlocked iphone would void the warranty from apple or not. Please enlighten me.

Thanks in advance.

Ok i am correcting you now, during the release of the iPhone in UK, Steve Jobs said that there will be a 3G version, and earlier at mac world he mentioned 2008 as the release for the Asian markets. He did not say "early '08". Edit: 11.59pm (GMT+8) 31st Dec 2008 is still 2008

Mabey you dun care about 3G you would do well the current available iphones.

This post has been edited by lonewalker: Dec 29 2007, 08:22 PM

and the 2008 release is not "malaysia" release.....it's ASIA...asia is pretty big....

if you can wait, why not...it still beats unlocking and turbo-simming the current ones....

i'd say wait for it if u can.....if not, get one from garage sales....

2008 released in Asia. Asia doesn't mean Malaysia. Malaysia also never in Apple map. Most likely Japan will get it 1st, nearest maybe Singapore. Dunno what year it will come to Malaysia.

Anything you do with the iPhone like jailbreak it, unlock, install 3rd party actually void your warranty. Apple won't cover it. So unlocked iPhone owner take the risk, anyway when restore the firmware.. Steve Jobs also can't tell whether it's already unlocked previously

Nahh... iPhone is overhyped. For a 2k phone, you get to brag about it for a month or two at most. After that, it'll be just another phone. After 6 month, it'll arrive at our shores. And by that time, you'll just wish you had bought a better phone.

What is your other choices anyway?

maybe you should discuss it in the iphone forum instead...

i heard at Malaysia the price rise to RM 2.5K

BTW when will the 2nd Generation IPhone will go out?

lol.. if u search properly maybe u can get it cheaper but theres a very small chance.. 2nd gen iphone? u can find more about it here . Info on iphone

search for it! or just view the iphone forum.

Wait for Macworld, then make your decision.

I too suggest holding back the purchase until it gets into Msia. Am quite sure we will get it though we're not on Apple's map it's just a matter of time that's all

Plus.. its a shame if it came locked up into some crappy mobile service provider like AT&T in the US

Well. If you can wait. Then wait.

If you cant. You know what to do

if Buy Now
-can use this gadget immediately
-catching other eyes to our latest gadget
-use turbosim,pss,dll
-illegal..nahh...
-must install 3rd party sware to fix for asian version phone

if WAit for Asian Release
-legal
-have to wait..waiting is killin....donno when(maybe mid 2008)
-can update latest software from apple without hassle
-3g (donno yet)
-no need 3dr party sware...all setting is for asian

somthin i miss? just write what in my mind onli

play the waiting game like me, get the 3G one which has been said to be released next year.

in the mean time get an ipod touch.

i don't really use phone, so IPod Touch is good enuff

if buy IPod Touch at least can use most of the IPhone function, without phone and camera

Thanks for all the feedback
Looks like I'm gonna wait. Gahhh!!!
I lost my phone a few months ago, and now I'm stuck with a Nokia 1115.
I do use phone and listen to music a lot.
Thanks and thanks again, especially the comparison made by ioriamd.

Bro

kalau barang ada lagi

wa kasi tau lu!

if it is going to launch in Asia, only those country with Apple Store will have it...Malaysia is excluded...so don't waste your time

If launch in Asia, most probably in China and Japan first since the "AppSupport" only support these 2 Asia countries. Since there is no EDGE in Japan, we might see 3G compatible iPhone in Japan.

If you need one, get before the new fw 1.1.3. as the jailbreaking/activating will not be easily done (encryption with RSA key now on FW). So even with *SIM, you will not be able to use the 1.1.3 phone.

Currently, the FW 1.1.2 iPhone can be jailbroken/Activated, and unlock with *SIM patcher.

Jusy my 0.0000000000000000002cts

Quoted for truth. Just snap up a 1.1.1 iphone while you can.

I am waiting for the official one to come to Malaysia.

keep on waiting

just grab an iPod touch for now

I am working in Apple line...I know what's Apple Marketing

When it come, dunno what the $$$ will look like. Tax etc, better get from outside...cheaper

I'd listen to babyk. If you need the big screen go for the iPod Touch. If you need just audio, the iPod Nano + phone is an ok deal.

Too many uncertainties with the iPhone today, particularly if you're using it in Malaysia.

Yea, so true. I mean for a phone thats worth 2k, I could get me 3 gadgets that could do all iphone functions. Namely Ipod touch, iPod shuffle and a good handphone.

Buying iPhone now feels like buying AP set.....with brand like APPLE, we need security and guarantee.

sheesh .. your money man, it's up to you. Can't wait? Just buy. Want to wait for iPhone in Malaysia? Crapz.. I don't think any telco ready to take the deal yet. Craving fer iPhone but feel insecure? Get iPod Touch haha the best bet!

truth quote, awaiting game is not fun...dun k, grab it now 1st, then when the so called 2nd generation of iphone/3G iphone launch in malaysia, then go grab another lo, wat de big deal rite???

@limyusiong,
Dat's a possible solution if only I had loads of $ to waste!

if iPhone going to be available with no contract price, do you still think that it is USD399?

only those without brain will think the price is RM2k below

they already launch in Germany with no contract based iPhone
it cost UK$999

you want iPhone or MacBook Pro
up to you LOL

If like that arr... Wait la until they release here maybe next year or next 3 year. Don't wasting your time also to search or study bout this iPhone. Go get HtC + iPod touch. Got gurantee sumore plus bulky handling.

if wan then buy

if wait can continue to wait

slow slow wait la dude. Just get a touchy if you really "need" one.

This post has been edited by allvin: Dec 31 2007, 11:55 AM

1800 in lowyat gadget sales zone .. go grab it,don wait. But u need stealthsim..if not mstake.

This post has been edited by strawberryee: Dec 31 2007, 03:43 PM

2008 is for ASIA... and no matter u like it or not, when big companies mention about ASIA, Malaysia usually is one of their LAST choices... ... maybe we have to wait until our wawasan 2020, to get iphone attention... wahahahaha.

probably there will be iPhoneII ?? hahaha..

New iPhone v2.0 may come out around June so I may consider waiting for it since it will be much more advanced and stable.

releasing in malaysia june08?

I think you should wait. The 2cd generation of iphone is coming up next year (in US, of course). My sister's room mate's boyfriend works in Apple (US) ... he said that the 3rd generation will make the biggest change of the iphone.

Just take a look at the history of ipods. That is how its going to happen. I think that the 2cd generation would be smaller in size, a faster and better OS, maybe 3.2-5 megapixel camera, and compatible software changes with Windows, new housing design and so on...

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Added on December 31, 2007, 6:58 pmwell... you never know. Take a look at the latest generation of Ipod Classic compare to Ipod Video... the price has decrease tremendously.


This post has been edited by couleur: Dec 31 2007, 06:58 PM

Buy now, don't wait..

Only coming to Malaysia June '08? I cannot tahan the pain already la. I don't want the iPod Touch. Eyeing only on the iPhone. Is it true that if I buy now and next time Apple come out with patch and then I cannot use already? Sorry because I didn't carefully read all the posts.

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Added on December 31, 2007, 9:32 pmNo official announcements states official release in "June 08". Quit saying June or any other dates unless you are absolutely sure of your sources

less than 3 hours to '08, waited almost a year for the iphone what more can another year be..

This post has been edited by lonewalker: Dec 31 2007, 09:35 PM

How many time apple release new firmware and yet all iPhone owner still enjoying the iphone without a problem. U must ask to iPhone owner not to listen non iPhone user. They no nothing. They no feeling when using iPhone. Of course there will be 2nd, 3rd and so on of new version iPhone. Then again when they will release here? There will be improvement to iPhone and you will keep chasing new development until u buy nothing. Like any product, buy when you want it and start enjoying every moment. Until today, I'm very happy with iPhone than my previous nokia e90 and 02 atom.

@tinkerbel,

this is not name as "waste", is depend on whether u willing to spend de money o nt....is de same as gal like to spend $ on LV, is de same....

ONCE YOU GO MAC, YOU CAN'T GO BACK!

why not just wait for 4th or 5th generation? is gonna be better rite? *sheesh* cannot tahan pain? what pain? Go and see doctor la

Yeah .. this uncle always fierce one,don't care he ..
If u got patient then u wait for it lo.. if u no,just grab it somewhere corner in Trade Zone lo.
Or else,you email Steve,when he wan release his iPhone here.. We wish to know too.

totally agree! don't wait if you really want it. iphone hack team will try their best to do all the cracking.just buy n wait n support them!!

Rumoured that an iPhone-nano and a new line of MBPs might be announced at the forthcoming MacWorld in Jan ...

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Added on January 1, 2008, 11:27 amTo all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO

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I'm no fan of el-Jobso , but he is right on that if you keep waiting for technology... you'll end up with nothing.
Note especially the 3rd paragraph.... "This is life in the technology lane" ...

This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Jan 1 2008, 11:27 AM

Absolutely right!!!! If you want it now, buy now. If not, keep waiting and you won't buy anything...

Well buy it now and hope that the Original never reaches Malaysia.

If it does, expect your Second hand value equivalent to a second hand AP phone.

that's a good info mugenfoo. thanks fer sharing.

the evolution of technology i.e. gadgets is really fast .. hyper speed I guess. If u collect tech / gadgets magazines, try to read last years or last 6 months issue and see what's the hottest gadgets in there.

and it's definately not a hot one anymore now... =)

hahahaha.....

and of cos,if Apple launch their iPhone somewhere around this year, it most probably is not the one selling in US now. May b had upgrade to 3G, bigger storage.. or something else, as reward to their loyal customer. Hope so

My favourite quote/phrase of the year 2008. Courtesy of Hanxz.

Based on apple's marketing trend, even if Iphone does make it to our shore, most likely will be tied up with one of our local telco. Another dilemma awaits whether to switch telco for the sake of having legal Ipod. Again, a BIG IF it ever comes here.

IF story will never end....i personally dun like awaiting game...dun like the feel of unconfirm things...jus grab de opportunity when it occur...coz we never knw wat gonna happen in future

Just do it and just grab it ...
But for me,now still kinda expensive for me

From MacWorld:


Nvr mention our pity M'sia pun. haha

This post has been edited by strawberryee: Jan 1 2008, 07:19 PM

That really sounds like bad news for people who are anticipating the official version of iPhone...

毫无目标的等待是痛苦的 。。。
help me translate it ..

just do it

of cos it won't mention about malaysia la. Got chance also singapore. Malaysia? Apple need to think twice

if Apple mention Indonesia first B4 Malaysia i will kill myself

shud i ask my fren to get iphone for in Aussie?? hmmm

lol.. probably Thailand before M'sia.

hey bro how is viewty compared to the iphone?
i love to listen to some first hand experience

come to think of it, this statement stands out. waiting is futile.

singapore has an Apple Store and Msia doesnt. we dont even have a genius bar but we have those trying to be genius.

i doubt it will even reach malaysia in 2 years time. so far only 3 countries in the europe has the iphone released.

your patience for the iphone to be released in msia is just an illusion my friends. Apple isnt big enough in msia.

i m preparing $ for iphone GEN. 2

hehehe

i just got da iphone about 2 weeks ago n got romours of 2nd gen n 3g version commin out... aiyoo...

i was wondering.....

after hack my IPhone can buy ACPP for IPhone ka?

Nope u r not eligible. Read below. Extracted from ACPP for Iphone HERE


1iPhone comes with up to two years of technical support during the term of your AT&T wireless contract. AppleCare Protection Plan benefits are in addition to any legal rights provided by consumer protection laws in your jurisdiction.
Most of us are not AT&T contract kan?

2This plan extends your service coverage to two years from the date of your iPhone purchase. The plan must be purchased while your iPhone is still under its original one-year warranty. Service coverage may be subject to certain restrictions.
We don't even covered by the original warranty haha



This post has been edited by aRRrgghh: Jan 4 2008, 01:43 AM

come talk more in the new forum

haiyak..
now so many places to read now.. anyway bravo malaysian iphone community

This post has been edited by trixx316: Jan 4 2008, 05:14 PM

bro pls support !

I second that...where are all the mac "geniuses"? very likely, you already know more than those quota-minded apple guy in the shop.

I almost had an impulse to buy an iphone for myself... but later I parked it aside knowing I have to go through the cycle of new firmware bricking my iphone and waiting for new hacks to surface.. this will just keeping going over and over again

i have some questions .. i read from somewhere saying that iphone can be upgraded once connect to iTunes and it is free... and because we need to unlock the iphone ourself and it cost us to pay for the upgrades (if we want to upgrade)

and.. once we unlock the iphone .. the warranty void ?? (to confirm)

This post has been edited by -z-: Jan 19 2008, 12:02 PM

For updating the firmware, there's no any charge imposed. It's the iPod touch that if you need to gain 5 more apps that originally came with iPhone. So nope, no charge for upgrading the iPhone. But make sure the firmware is safe (unlockable) before doing the upgrade.

Once the iPhone is unlocked, it will void the warranty. If you done hardware unlock like the GeoHot method, surely it is. But if you only doing software unlock such as AnySIM, you can revert back the baseband before sending for warranty. But remember though that you need to send the iPhone to the country of its origin. Furthermore there's no official iPhone release in Malaysia. Also note that the warranty is covered partially on AT&T and Appple (for US version) so maybe you can send it for warranty, or maybe not (considering that you unlock it and not using AT&T).

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Jan 19 2008, 01:44 PM

You going to buy one? I was planning to do the same except I can get it cheaper because I have someone to buy it from USA so I get to buy it directly converted from USD into RM.

As for your concern, no, if you take the precaution. The unlocks are purely software and you can restore it using programes which Apple can't tell at all.

hi guys, since it is quite impossible 2 send bak de iphone 4 warranty, do u guys found or know any expert tat know 2 repair iphone?n do they hav de spare parts? another thing is de battery of de iphone, it cant b replaced by our ownself rite, yet like hardly 2 find any after market battery also....how if one of u is de unlucky one?touch wood...
jz wan 2 think n consider carefully b4 i can pursuade myself 2 get 1...tq

i will say wait for the 3g version

unlimit waiting would be ...

If you decided to get new iphone now, dont get the unlocked version or try to unlocked the phone. It is because apple going to have an iPhone SDK in developers' hands this February 28 2008.

The purpose of this iphone SDK is creating a vibrant third party developer community around the iPhone and enabling hundreds of new applications for the users. Getting all the dogs n cats together.

For those with locked iphone, get xxxsim to unlocked the phone. Dont do any hardware/software modification for the moment while waiting for the SDK.

More info at ......http://developer.apple.com/iphone/devcenter/

It seems that firmware 1.1.3 is already breaks the unlock by sim solutions such as psssim or turbosim. So if u use the 'white' version of the firmware 1.1.3 iPhone, u can't unlock it by sim solutions anyway.
It is also not a harm if using software based unlock. If there's need to use clean version of phone, we can just revirginise the phone and hence, reverts the modified baseband.
Also the jailbreak method doesn't work anymore with new firmware. But they already got the way but it is not released to the public yet as to avoid Apple from revising their firmware so the new jailbreak doesn't work on the SDK enabled iPhones.
Hence, i think there's still need to unlock and jailbreak the iPhone. The SDK is a sandboxed environment and it surely not directly touching the critical processes. But in the other hand, the jailbreak can serve its purpose in allowing critical services to be touched, therefore enabling software based unlocks. If there's no unlock, even the sim solutions can't be used on firmware 1.1.3. Yeah the cat and mouse game continues. And it's best to get both sides : get the jailbreak + get from SDK. That's sweet.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Jan 20 2008, 07:04 PM

hardware unlock seems dangerous though.. can't do it by yourself if your not pro.. must call those experienced people to do it.. but can't get warranty after that. =/

yes best time get now>..
i waiting for you

will get my i phone soon, where can unlock it, pls email me email la. ohaiyoloh@yahoo.com

Anytime is a good time to buy an iPhone !!

Just remember, if you buy a "week 44" or earlier iPhone ( can tell by the serial number punya 4th and 5th digits). you're very lucky!!

If you bought a week 45+ iPhone (aka 112 OTB aka 4.6BootLoader version or any European iPhone), you'll need a SIM proxy device to "trick" the iPhone into thinking your DiGi/Maxis/Celcom SIM is still a "AT&T" Sim.

Most sellers of week 45+ iphones will bundle that SIM thingy with the deal, of sell the iPhones slightly cheaper , but you'll need to get the thingy yourself.

On how to unlock / jailbreak the iPhone so you can install 3rd party apps ... Google is your best friend (but beware, alot of scam sites as well, trying to sell you stuff and all).

Best place to start are:

http://iphone.unlock.no

http://www.hackthatphone.com



BTW, i happen to have a spare one of those SIM thingies. if you're in need of one, pls PM me.

(How I ended up with one ... sad story .. kena FFK by some people !)

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Added on January 25, 2008, 7:21 pm1.1.3 jailbreak available already... thanks to Nate True (the guy who brought us iBrickr)

http://cre.ations.net/blog/post/iphone-113...lbreak-released





This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Jan 25 2008, 07:21 PM

Yeah it's newly available. Haha...just updated my iPhone to 1.1.3. Nice, the unlock survived the firmware update, thanks to the new method that excluding update on baseband firmware.

And yes, you need unlocked phone on fw 1.1.1 or 1.1.2, only after that you can do the update. And yes, still if u done clean 'white version' update to 1.1.3, it can't be unlocked even with sim solutions.

And also, OTB 1.1.2 can already unlocked by hardware method (involves opening the iPhone). maybe not long from now, the software version will be made available. Yeah!

Announcement:
an Apple MacBook LapTop has been stolen but the thief did not take the charger. Since apple charger is a bit unique and not many Apple reseller around. kindly take note. For those who come across people wanting to sell an Apple MacBook LapTop with serial#" 1PMA700ZA/A (N) or wanting to buy a charger for Apple Laptop... They are possibly the thief or related to the thief or harboring the thief. So kindly send me the necessary eMail (pleassssssseeeeeeeeeeee). I have made report to the police station on this.
Another thing since MacOS is hardly pirated, I am pleading to anybody who knows how to block using any technique possible.
Thanks

Anyone know how much an unlocked IPHONE costs in Malaysia?Can we unlock IPHONE without using the Turbosim?

It depends on who you're getting the phone from. The forum traders now have them going for at least RM2.3k together with the xSIM unlocking solutions. The necessity of the xSIM methods depend on the phone's bootloader and firmware. Anything that came with Bootloader 4.6, AKA 1.1.2 OTB and above can only be unlocked using the xSIM method or the recently added hardware mod.

ok...let say now i bought an Iphone from US,can I upgrade it to the latest firmware without using any xsim?

Well, without an xSIM, you'd have one very expensive iPod Touch. Even then, it depends whether you bought yourself an OTB 1.1.2 or 1.1.3 unit. If it's 1.1.2, then you need to get yourself an xSIM to use the phone and SMS features. If it's an OTB 1.1.3 unit, you'll have to wait for the soft-unlock by the iPhone Dev Team after the SDK is released by Apple. Get the idea?

Not really, if you purchase from US at US$435 ( US$399 + tax ) when converted to RM is RM1450+

The ipod touch is selling in Malaysia for like RM1300+. So it it only like RM150 more expensive for the phone functionality + bluetooth + camera ( yeah crappy camera from apple )

I read in SG Newspaper that it would be a loooog time before legal iphone hit our shores or SG shores due to the following reasons :-

- SG IDA do not allow phone to be sim Locked.. I think same for Malaysia

- Apple wants like 20-30% of ALL iphone minutes revenue from the iphone. I do not think Telco here or in SG would agreed to that revenue sharing agreement

- Our market is too small for Apple to focus compared countries like China, Japan, etc..due to small population.

So after the above facts, I decide to go ahead and get myself a unit.

The iphone is cool but the innovative apps are even cooler like those accelerometer apps, touch screen apps and really nice to read news & articles on the iphone as an Internet device, zoom in and out using the touch screen.

The only drawback compared to US is that most of our wifi hotspot are NOT free... so for US ppl, 3G is not important as long as they have wifi..

haha...actually this is not the real case that he wants to mention. What he really wants to tell is that if u don't unlock it with sim solutions what u will have is a very expensive iPod Touch.

owww...btw u can get a Touch now at around RM14xx for 16GB version. huhu...

ok...so I just have to get an OTB 1.1.3 Iphone and wait for soft-unlock by the iPhone Dev Team then i can use the Iphone with xSim ,right?
Anyway are you an iPhone owner? Is there any service centre at Malaysia or profession who know how to fix an Iphone?

even if those guys were here, i doubt they'd advertise and risk being known by Apple Malaysia.

Mmm...if it is fw1.1.3 OTB myb it will be a little prob. Ok let's consider this case :

Fresh 1.1.1 OTB = can use xxxSIM
Fresh 1.1.2 OTB = can use xxxSIM
Fresh 1.1.3 OTB = reportedly can't

Unless the dev team can develop a way to make it unlockable again via xxxSIM using special utility, or u need to revert system firmware and baseband to 1.1.2 and then perform 1.1.3 softjailbreak.

Ok as for the software unlock, they need to extract secpack from a newer version of fw and then apply that to make the predecessor version unlockable. Ok consider this matter, only after fw1.1.2 is released, the OTB1.1.1 can be unlocked. This also considering there's no further encryption method that makes it harder to be unlocked. That's the case of 1.1.2 now. So for OTB 1.1.3, maybe we need at least 1.1.4 or 1.x.x to be released first.

Or maybe there's another way. If they can make software modification of bootloader, or maybe a custom bootloader, there's no problem. The latest method of hardware unlocking is to achieve downgrading bootloader 4.6 to 3.9 by force. Only if that can happen by software-only means, there will be more possibilitoes on next firmware revisions.

Yeah..No Need to wait, Get a iphone from 'garage sales'
Just have fun with it, show of abit...
Its just sum big boy's toy u wanted to impress around..
So think about it boyy..

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Added on January 30, 2008, 4:26 pmYeah..No Need to wait, Get a iphone from 'garage sales'
Just have fun with it, show of abit...
Its just sum big boy's toy u wanted to impress around..
So think about it boyy..

This post has been edited by adriantai: Jan 30 2008, 04:26 PM