I also first time hear this...but he showed me NGK brand...2 types...
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the viva drifting?
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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Dec 27 2007, 01:56 AM) the viva drifting? viva understeer with extreme bodyroll... |
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another kancil alike flip turtle? can't really understand why they use these cars as track cars.
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 26 2007, 07:38 PM) oh joy...some mechanic my friend introduced said that I got the wrong spark plug. There's a type of spark plug for carbie engines and another type for EFI. Izzit true? maybe the mech wanna try con u to buy another set of spark plug?neways,the viva bodyroll is damn scary man! like wanna turtle d  |
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QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:57 AM) maybe the mech wanna try con u to buy another set of spark plug? ninja turtle. the viva spray turtle airbrush den can act ninja turtle d... neways,the viva bodyroll is damn scary man! like wanna turtle d  |
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 26 2007, 07:38 PM) oh joy...some mechanic my friend introduced said that I got the wrong spark plug. There's a type of spark plug for carbie engines and another type for EFI. Izzit true? Yes there is a difference. If you are using EFi engines, you need to get spark plugs with resistors to prevent electrical damage to the ECU. These NGK spark plugs are noted with 'R', for example BKR5E-11, the R stands for resistor.Carb engines do not have sensitive electronics like the ECU and can use any plugs. Added on December 27, 2007, 9:12 am QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:57 AM) maybe the mech wanna try con u to buy another set of spark plug? No, there are 2 types of plugs for engines with and without ECU.neways,the viva bodyroll is damn scary man! like wanna turtle d This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Dec 27 2007, 09:12 AM |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:57 AM) maybe the mech wanna try con u to buy another set of spark plug? nah, he didn't push the sale.the Viva looks more like its doing a 180 drift...there's a barrier just in front of it. |
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2007, 09:11 AM) Yes there is a difference. If you are using EFi engines, you need to get spark plugs with resistors to prevent electrical damage to the ECU. These NGK spark plugs are noted with 'R', for example BKR5E-11, the R stands for resistor. thx for explaining it...Carb engines do not have sensitive electronics like the ECU and can use any plugs. Added on December 27, 2007, 9:12 am No, there are 2 types of plugs for engines with and without ECU. |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2007, 09:11 AM) Yes there is a difference. If you are using EFi engines, you need to get spark plugs with resistors to prevent electrical damage to the ECU. These NGK spark plugs are noted with 'R', for example BKR5E-11, the R stands for resistor. so, should I just change the spark plugs?Carb engines do not have sensitive electronics like the ECU and can use any plugs. Added on December 27, 2007, 9:12 am No, there are 2 types of plugs for engines with and without ECU. I have to look for spark plugs with the 'R' is it? Does Bosch have spark plugs with resistors too? last question - what kind of damages will incur if I keep using this normal spark plug on EFI engine? This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Dec 27 2007, 10:18 AM |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Dec 27 2007, 01:56 AM) the viva drifting? QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 27 2007, 02:03 AM) viva understeer with extreme bodyroll... actually that viva joining GRA(?) at putrajaya. |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 27 2007, 10:16 AM) so, should I just change the spark plugs? You'd fry the ECU... slowly. The R notation is only applicable for NGK as they are OEM for quite a lot of cars and some manufacturers have 2 same engines with and without ECU, example, our 4G13 carb and EFi. Sparkplug still same code but ECU will use the one with R. I have to look for spark plugs with the 'R' is it? Does Bosch have spark plugs with resistors too? last question - what kind of damages will incur if I keep using this normal spark plug on EFI engine? Other brands will either indicate that it is a resistor plug or have specific models for ECU engines. |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:43 AM
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dear god...my parents used the car last weekend to go back Johor. Its already almost 1000km since the last service...a week ago!!
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Dec 27 2007, 10:48 AM
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Hehe..normal la that one. This month i already drive the for >3000km start from 1 dec.
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Dec 27 2007, 10:55 AM
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I'm now wondering if the Bosch super 4 spark plugs I got last time were resistor plugs...cha dou man...
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Dec 27 2007, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 27 2007, 10:55 AM) I'm now wondering if the Bosch super 4 spark plugs I got last time were resistor plugs...cha dou man... The question is actually... did you buy the right plugs for your car? If the plugs are for your engine, then there is nothing to worry. If the engine needs resistors, then it would be built into the plug for the engine. However, if you accidentally bought the plugs for a carb car, then there is a good chance there is no resistor in it. |
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Dec 27 2007, 01:30 PM
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really no idea...the spark plugs have been replaced...there's no way I can check if the Bosch Super 4 I used last time had resistors or not. Will go and replace the spark plugs right after work. Thanks man.
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Dec 27 2007, 01:33 PM
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Btw guys,is sidegapped spark plug better than normal spark plug?
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the car oledi siap...but cannot take pic...
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