geng...u got all in hand??

Are betting counters like BJTOTO and Magnum attractive for the next 5 to 10 years?

Everytime I see people who buy toto are uncles and aunties.

think another way.... we also can anytime turn to uncle and aunties

but, with the level of education u have...u should know, 4D is a sucker bet

U still will bet 4D when u become an uncle?

And, when I bet (which is seldom), I'd rather buy from...underground

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 30 2014, 11:02 AM

but you never know when you turn lucky. imagine 30 million jackpot

1 lucky Ppl fr Muar just won RM25.2 mil via Magnum Jackpot on 26/10
Anyway, both Bjtoto n Magnum is inside my portfolio

Where is Dividend Warrior? He's a source of inspiration

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 22 2014, 10:50 AM

Millions of unlucky people just collectively lost more than that

This post has been edited by wodenus: Nov 22 2014, 05:00 PM

If you bought both at this date :

MAYBULK (2007-2014) : -44.84%

BJTOTO (2007-2014) : +12%

FD at 3% (2007-2014) : +21%


Better than putting it in FD?

This post has been edited by wodenus: Nov 22 2014, 05:01 PM

hi, is your 12% return for bjtoto already factory in the dividends and share splits
bjtoto payout for div per year
2007 -32sen
2008 - 25.9sen
2009 - 25.21sen
2010 - 20sen
2011 - 25sen
2012 - 27sen
2013 - 22sen
2014 - 22sen

This post has been edited by repusez: Nov 22 2014, 08:16 PM

http://dividendsrichwarrior.blogspot.com/2...l-thoughts.html

he's no longer in the scene

blackjack and baccarat is also sucker bet???

博彩之於蘇樹輝 Dr Ambrose So，只宜遠觀，卻從不接近，但置身賭場多年，難免有旁人問起：有否贏錢秘訣，他堅決說道：「沒有。久賭必輸是不變的定理。」這種說法，豈非幫賭場倒米、趕客？他卻泰然道來：「這是真話，大家都知道，只是有人以為自己能夠掌控賭局而已。賭錢本身，賭場是長贏客，而賭徒卻是十賭九輸。」

　不愧是讀理科出身，蘇樹輝 Dr Ambrose So用科學數據來印證自己的說法：「賭場要抽水，而且限制了最高投注額，輸贏機會並非均等。像賭大小Tai Sai，賭場是不會賠足的，以買三條一為例，機率是1比216，也就是說你買216次，總有一次中，但賭場只賠1比150，中間的差額便是賭客輸了的。買二十一點也是，誰先爆誰就輸了，賭客先開牌、要牌，莊家最後，這當中便有不公平。」

http://paper.wenweipo.com/2003/10/19/AZ0310190003.htm




The King of Gambling,Dr Stanley Ho (age 93(2 more days), 25th november is his birthday), the founder of Macau casino operator SJM Holdings and its predecessor STDM, will celebrate his 90th birthday next month. But he’ll be doing it quietly in his birthplace Hong Kong, not Macau said SJM’s Chief Executive Dr Ambrose So, who has worked for Dr Ho since 1975.

Calculation (price adjusted for splits) :

Price at Dec 28 was 4.46.
Price at Nov 21 was 3.50.

Total loss (price only) = 4.46-3.50 = 0.96

End of 2007 there was only one div for 0.0714 (Ex date 26/12, he bought 24/12 so won't be in time for T+3, so no divs for 2007.)

for 2008-2014 = 25.9+25.21+20+14+27+22+22 = 1.5611

Total gain = 1.56-0.96 = 0.60 per share.

Total percentage gain = 0.60/4.46 = 13.45%

So percent gain per year = 13.45/6 = 2.24% per year

Compared with 3% a year for FD, still a loss


If you invested Rm9,812 at that date :

2200 shares at 4.46 = Rm9,812

2200 shares at 3.50 = Rm7,700

Total capital loss = Rm2,112

Add brokerage costs = Rm2,112 + 43.26 = Rm2,154.26

Total dividends = 2200 x 1.5611 = Rm3,434.42

Total gain = 3,434.42 - 2,154.26 = Rm1280.16


If you deposited Rm9,812 in FD at 3% p.a :

Rm9,812 Compounded Annually at 3% for 6 years = RM11,716.04

Total gain = RM11,716.04 - RM9,812 = Rm1,904.04



Total difference = Rm1904.04 - 1280.16 = 623.88

This post has been edited by wodenus: Nov 24 2014, 08:33 PM

f u

Amway is up about 80% from 2007



Tenaga just about double too.

bjtoto ? ok to in now?

thanks for the detail calculation and writeup

FD now should be higher than3% yes? with opr 3.25

Yes it was raised recently, but it was 3% for a long time