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inspiron
post May 10 2009, 02:45 AM

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Ok now, Im adding this reply w/o reading the whole 7 pages.

Cancer patient? I dont know any. But I have read a lot about them. Do you know that most of the time, those seeking help from doctor with chemo, the patient did not die from the cancer itself. But they die because their body is not able to cope with chemo.

When you expose your body with chemo, every cells in your body died. Your hair drop by just touching them, I've not heard of anyone gaining weight while taking chemo coz you wont be well enough to have the desire to eat. All you want to do is just sleep as you're tired most of the time

A close relative of mine got a tumour and have to get it remove. And after the surgery, the doctor ask her to take drugs which make her sleep for 23 hours a day. And the moment she is awake, she seems lifeless

It goes on for 2 full day
On the evening of the 3rd day(something happen on the 3rd day), she was having her walking outside and she she got so many energy left she can't sleep at night (this is from someone who was sleeping for 46 hours for the past 2 days. She still continue to take her medication till it finish)

what happen during the 3rd day was that I gave her something to take. It was a combination of 2 products that I know which contain the highest level of enzyme. Enzyme is the catalyst for our body cell to function. When you take chemo, all your good cell is wipe out. And doctor dont give you anything to replenish that other than more drugs to make your body more sick

For those of you who have anyone with cancer, take my advice. Ask them to take something which is rich in enzyme. Dont just take vitamins. As w/o enzyme, your body would not be able to absorb the nutrient thus it would take a long time to see any result.

As the product I recommend could not be found in normal shop, PM me if you want to know what it is. OK, it is from MLM company but I would only go as far as recommending it to you. As Im not a member myself but only a consumer, you need to go and buy it from others.

Thus pls dont flame me that Im trying to sell you guys things. I only want to tell my experience.

dont take it from me, here, learn it yourself
understanding importance of enzyme
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I was 1st expose to enzyme nutrients from Lifestar company's product. One big difference from the one found from pharmacy is that the one they're selling is 'alive' proven by Kirlian photography. See it to believe it
Is your Vitamins alive?

Sadly, Lifestar is no longer on sale in Msia. Let me know if anyone know where to buy it. One amazing about it is, it is not an extract thus it is not categorily a drug. All other brand name major Vitamins is an extract from something thus considered a drug.


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post May 10 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(inspiron @ May 10 2009, 02:45 AM)
Ok now, Im adding this reply w/o reading the whole 7 pages.

Cancer patient? I dont know any. But I have read a lot about them. Do you know that most of the time, those seeking help from doctor with chemo, the patient did not die from the cancer itself. But they die because their body is not able to cope with chemo.

When you expose your body with chemo, every cells in your body died. Your hair drop by just touching them, I've not heard of anyone gaining weight while taking chemo coz you wont be well enough to have the desire to eat. All you want to do is just sleep as you're tired most of the time

A close relative of mine got a tumour and have to get it remove. And after the surgery, the doctor ask her to take drugs which make her sleep for 23 hours a day. And the moment she is awake, she seems lifeless

It goes on for 2 full day
On the evening of the 3rd day(something happen on the 3rd day), she was having her walking outside and she she got so many energy left she can't sleep at night (this is from someone who was sleeping for 46 hours for the past 2 days. She still continue to take her medication till it finish)

what happen during the 3rd day was that I gave her something to take. It was a combination of 2 products that I know which contain the highest level of enzyme. Enzyme is the catalyst for our body cell to function. When you take chemo, all your good cell is wipe out. And doctor dont give you anything to replenish that other than more drugs to make your body more sick

For those of you who have anyone with cancer, take my advice. Ask them to take something which is rich in enzyme. Dont just take vitamins. As w/o enzyme, your body would not be able to absorb the nutrient thus it would take a long time to see any result.

As the product I recommend could not be found in normal shop, PM me if you want to know what it is. OK, it is from MLM company but I would only go as far as recommending it to you. As Im not a member myself but only a consumer, you need to go and buy it from others.

Thus pls dont flame me that Im trying to sell you guys things. I only want to tell my experience.
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Very useful sharing. You should be thanked, not flamed.

This is exactly what I was talking about - an alternative to surgery, radiation and chemo. Lifestar has a protocol called Lifestar Restoration Protocol for cancer patients that seems to work very well, even for certain 4th stage cancers. I did not cover diet or what you should be consuming to help your body fight cancer (it will take 5 pages to write) but enzymes are a must. Organic shops today are flooded with all sorts of enzymes but not all of them are helpful. Do your research, ask around - just don't be stupid enough to believe that anything from a so-called organic shop is really organic or healthy. BTW, in Malaysia. when you buy an organic vegetable of a fruit, chances are it is only certified organic at the farm where it is grown. How this vegetable or fruit is packed, stored and transported to the organic shop may not be organic at all. In Europe, certification is given all the way - up to the the time the organic product sits on the store's shelf. Much more genuine.

And yes, most cancer patients do not die of the cancer itself. Inspiron is partly right in blaming chemo for the patient's death but this is only the indirect reason. The direct reason is the body's weakening immune system, made even weaker by the chemo, that leads to the body's organs to shut down, one by one. And this ultimately leads to death.

This post has been edited by goodkarma: May 10 2009, 01:29 PM
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post May 20 2009, 01:13 AM

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Here is something ironic for cancer patients:

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Cancer drug linked to fatal brain virus

WASHINGTON: The 57-year-old lawyer had completed the tough New York Times Saturday crossword puzzle for years. But one Saturday morning, he just
couldn't find words to fill in the squares. He had been attacked by a brain virus.

In Chicago, an 83-year-old woman began parroting the same phrases over and over. When her doctor asked her how she was, she replied, "I am fine. I am fine. I am fine."

The symptoms of the New York lawyer and the Chicago woman could have been mistaken for early dementia. But an MRI brain scan and biopsy revealed like their brains had been eaten away.

A brain biopsy and a spinal tap confirmed the diagnosis of a swiftly moving and often fatal viral brain infection called progressive multifocal leukoencephalitis (PML) that attacks the brain's white matter.

Both had lymphoma and had been taking the popular cancer drug rituximab (brand name Rituxan) before they developed the brain infection.

read more here: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Health-...how/4551813.cms

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post May 20 2009, 01:32 AM

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D.R.U.G,

afterall it is your choice to believe what you believe. Believe something that is natural to body or synthetic to body, up to you.
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post May 26 2009, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(suzzan @ May 25 2009, 10:59 PM)
My friends grandmother had a mouth cancer, from last 6 months she was suffering very badly and only last month she passed away .... nothing was their that even the best doctors could do to save her
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Doctors could only stick to standard regimen.


Cut, burn, poison.


Success rate very low.


If you even try alternative, be ready to be branded a quack.

Cancer is a pharmaceutical monopoly on treatment. Even if they have the cure they wouldn't sell it to you, because one time sales is not as good as multiple treatment regiments to strip you of your money.


While I do not advocate dangerous alternative treatments, there're a few you can try which you got nothing to lose even if it does not work. If everything else not working and you decided to stop chemo/radiotherapy... you can try


1. Baking soda gargling (if mouth/oral cancer)

2. 1 teaspoon of baking soda mixed with maple syrup and heated to bind the element to the 'sugar' syrup. Ingest it. Cancer likes sugar. But once it is tricked to consume sugar (loaded with alkaline baking soda) it will end up like how Troy fell to a trojan horse.

3. Starve yourself of sugar to make body more alkaline. Raising PH will prevent cancer cells from accumulating, since they need acidic PH to proliferate.

4. RAW Juice fast, make juice/veggie smoothies with tons of antioxidant greenies such as celery, broccoli, kale, broccoli sprouts, carrots, mix some papaya and papaya leafs. Do not take any dairy products, or fatty food.

5. Please exercise, walk 2 hours daily.

6. Drink a lot of water.

7. Learn taiji and meditation.

8. Boost immunity, take certain supplements that are high in doses of Vitamin D3.

9. Eat brown rice with raw garlic, raw onions, raw veggie, totally vegetarian diet, avoid all meat, for at least 6 months.


Hey you got nothing to lose anyway!

inspiron
post May 26 2009, 02:45 AM

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To support what Perseus have just posted,

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In 1945, at the time of the atomic bombing of Japan, Tatsuichiro Akizuki, M.D. was Director of the Department of Internal Medicine at St. Francis's Hospital in Nagasaki. Most patients in the hospital, located one mile from the center of the blast, survived the initial effects of the bomb, but soon after came down with symptoms of radiation sickness from the fallout that has been released.

Dr. Akizuki fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets.

As a result, he saved everyone in his hospital, while many other survivors perished from radiation sickness.
Source: Tatsuichiro Akuziki, M.D. Nagasaki 1945, London Quarter books, 1981. (Brown rice, miso, Sea vegetables, Salt)


sos

Dont wait till stage 4 cancer before you want to give it a try. If someone can survive atomic radiation, anyone can survive stage 1 cancer

Learn more about the wonders of raw food.But I do admit, if you dont have the terminal disease, raw food diet is not for you. Why exclude yourself from life's pleasure when you're healthy? But if you got cancer as your opponent, raw food is the way to go about it.
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post Jul 21 2009, 05:28 PM

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Patients who require diagnosis and treatment for any number of cancers will be referred to an oncologist. This type of specialist has extensive education and training specifically in how to work with this disease.hattiesburg oncologist
4Rings
post Jul 22 2009, 11:36 AM

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There is a book worth reading.

http://www.purezing.com/living/books/livin...eakthrough.html
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post Jul 25 2009, 11:46 PM

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Anybody know about Li Fraumeni syndrome?

Li Fraumeni Syndrome is a disease that will change the p53 gene and cause several tumors and cancers. Once a person was found to have this disease, he or she will face several cancers in his / her life, NON-STOP. That means a cancer patient with Li Fraumeni Syndrome, once his / her cancer successfully cured, another cancer will come again. It is also possible that he / she can have multiple cancers at the same time.

Very sad, currently no medical technology can cure this syndrome. And, this syndrome will be inherited by next generation. That means, if you have this syndrome, your next generations, children, and grandchildren will have very high chances to have this syndrome.

I know all these after I watch a Hong Kong TVB drama "The Seventh Day" which the main actress died from cancer at the end because of this syndrome, and then I done some online research after watching.

Ladies and gentlemen, one cancer already can make a patient suffer enough. Imagine a person with this syndrome, ........ (you should know what I mean).

According to my research, beside Li-fraumeni Syndrome, there is another syndrome called "Cowden syndrome" which also cause cancers, although not as serious as Li-fraumeni syndrome.

It is really sad to know that there is such disease exist in this world.

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post Jul 26 2009, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(cshong @ Jul 25 2009, 11:46 PM)
Anybody know about Li Fraumeni syndrome?

Li Fraumeni Syndrome is a disease that will change the p53 gene and cause several tumors and cancers. Once a person was found to have this disease, he or she will face several cancers in his / her life, NON-STOP. That means a cancer patient with Li Fraumeni Syndrome, once his / her cancer successfully cured, another cancer will come again. It is also possible that he / she can have multiple cancers at the same time.

Very sad, currently no medical technology can cure this syndrome. And, this syndrome will be inherited by next generation. That means, if you have this syndrome, your next generations, children, and grandchildren will have very high chances to have this syndrome.

I know all these after I watch a Hong Kong TVB drama "The Seventh Day" which the main actress died from cancer at the end because of this syndrome, and then I done some online research after watching.

Ladies and gentlemen, one cancer already can make a patient suffer enough. Imagine a person with this syndrome, ........ (you should know what I mean).

According to my research, beside Li-fraumeni Syndrome, there is another syndrome called "Cowden syndrome" which also cause cancers, although not as serious as Li-fraumeni syndrome.

It is really sad to know that there is such disease exist in this world.
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In movies cancer is not treatable. But in reality cancer is treatable by alternative medicine. Many cancer patients have been cured by alternative treatments. But too bad they are not recognized by mainstream medicine and the relevant authorities simply because modern medicine has been made standard and controlled by filthy rich drugs companies. And also huge taxes are also collected by the government from the big pharma.
Too bad that the lives of patients have to be sacrificed for profits and $$$$.
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post Jul 26 2009, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(4Rings @ Jul 26 2009, 07:23 AM)
In movies cancer is not treatable. But in reality cancer is treatable by alternative medicine. Many cancer patients have been cured by alternative treatments. But too bad they are not recognized by mainstream medicine and the relevant authorities simply because modern medicine has been made standard and controlled by filthy rich drugs companies. And also huge taxes are also collected by the government from the big pharma.
Too bad that the lives of patients have to be sacrificed for profits and $$$$.
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In reality, we can successfully cure a cancer. But still no way to cure Li fraumeni syndrome. So, patient with this syndrome, when one of his/her cancer successfully cured, another will come again, again and again.
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Hi guys, I'm actually testing out this supplement called transfer factor. It helps boost the immune system. So far i've recommended it to a few people and it has improved conditions of a diabetic patient, 1 foot & mouth disease, ease asthma attack and lower blood pressure.

I havn't recommended this to anyone with cancer but I've heard of cases that it does help. Has anybody tried it before?
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when it come to cancer there are so many so call alternative medicine that have been claim to be miracle cure, but we must be aware of the snake oil salesman that exploit people in their moment of weekest to make money.

These supplement are not subjected to clinical trial to confirm its effect. there is not way you can get definite prove of effectiveness by have people giving testimonial on the supplement. they may all be placebo effect.

Randy Pauch, the Carnegie Mellon professor with terminal cancer that famously deliver a last lecture to his student, have this to day when ask about alternative threatment.

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Have you looked at alternative remedies? —Dr. Julius Kryss Frankfurt, Germany
I've received 10,000 e-mails—that's a real number—many of them telling me about different remedies. But my first filter is, Has it been through any kind of clinical study? The plural of anecdote is not data, so if you know three people that did some alternative cure, that's positive, but it's not the same thing as real, clinically proved data.


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post Sep 4 2009, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Aug 25 2009, 09:53 PM)
when it come to cancer there are so many so call alternative medicine that have been claim to be miracle cure, but we must be aware of the snake oil salesman that exploit people in their moment of weekest to make money.

These supplement are not subjected to clinical trial to confirm its effect. there is not way you can get definite prove of effectiveness by have people giving testimonial on the supplement. they may all be placebo effect.

Randy Pauch, the Carnegie Mellon professor with terminal cancer that famously deliver a last lecture to his student, have this to day when ask about alternative threatment.
10 Questions for Randy Pausch
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Well this is one of the articles that I read in pubmed on tumour.

"Glioblastoma multiform (GBM) is the most common tumour of the central nervous system in humans. Unfortunately its prognosis is poor and because of the lack of efficacious therapies, immunotherapy is a potential treatment. Transfer factors (TF) are low molecular weight dialysable products extracted from immune cells which transmit the ability to express delayed-type hypersensitivity and cell mediated immunity from sensitized donors to nonimmnune recipients. In this study, we determined the efficacy of TF as immunotherapy to treat experimental glioblastoma. We used TF obtained from immunized swine. We evaluated different doses of intratumoral TF (product of 4x10(6), 8x10(5) and 1.6x10(5) cells). The best dose (product of 4x10(6) cells) of TF was also combined with carmustine for experimental therapy in rats with C6 malignant glioma. Modifications in peripheral blood T lymphocyte counts ( CD2+, CD4+, CD8+ and NK) were evaluated by flow cytometry. Cytokine expression in the tumour was assessed by RT-PCR and apoptosis was evaluated using the sub G0 method. Intratumoral TF reduced significantly the tumour size, and increased CD2+, CD4+, CD8+ and NK cell counts, it also increased the percentage of apoptotic tumour cells and the percentage of tumour tissue expressing Th1 cytokines. We observed an additive antitumoral effect when TF was combined with chemotherapy."

I'm not a doctor but the last sentence caught my attention.
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THATs why FOOD is most important in LIFE !

is not the Doctors not the money is what put into your body ..

IF Body to acidic than dieases easy to start but if Alkaline then no worries

(DExtox & alkalne PH body is the key to healthy life )

" Prevention is Better Than Cure !!!"


Added on September 4, 2009, 8:17 pmP.S : every take ..Spirulina, Chlorella powder and now age 33 but ppl say i look so young i.e 25. so far never fell sick for 5 yrs.





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post Sep 25 2009, 11:48 PM

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According to WHO (World Health Organization) seriously adv that out of 135 human basis illness, there are 106 cause by unbalanced calcium of our body.

Did anyone know unbalanced calcium of our body will cause lots of illness ? Cancer is one of the symptom.

Today, if we have a oppotunity to survive and prevent from cancer, would you give yourself and your love one a chance ?

If you are interested to know, pls pm me. TQ.
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post Sep 26 2009, 12:07 AM

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chemo kills all the cell. its reduce your immune system capability.

my uncle have cancer, third stage.

we tried with modern and alternative medicine. Go around Kelantan and meet someone in Pasir Puteh.

We found kenarak or its brand name Kalis T. It is very affordable than the pills.

Since, we know the success rate of modern ways is not convincing, we think it is okay to try Kalis T.

It's work for my uncle.

I would like recommend to all to try this product. it is worth to try it. I am promoting this product because the owner is sincere to save people life including my uncle.

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my dad just passed away last 2 months of lung cancer

when he found out, it was just 2nd stage...but later on spreaded to lymph nod
the whole battle lasted for 1 year plus

Been thru 2 radiotheraphy and 3 Chemo...but of no help at all
He did all these with the oncologist, Dr Christina (UMSC, now in Sunway)
Being my own opinion, i would say she's an unethical oncologist.
She's recommend expensive and not so useful chemo to my dad, and we believe in her all the while.
And if u look carefully in the bill, she charged consultation fee on days even when she did not turn up.

She even suggest my dad to have the Chemo straight after a radiotheraphy. Even the radiotheraphist himself said to my dad, the doctor must be crazy, it's a must for the patient to rest for 2 weeks before he proceed with any other theraphy.

So then we realise and transfer to another hospital. The other oncologist look at the medical record and told us the approach she took was all the way wrong. And since she already use such high dosage on my dad and so many times....there's no use of having any chemo anymore...

We were hoping to try other things like herbal remedy...but that time he was too weak and coughing blood continuously...
it's just too late to try anything...

how could she turn a 2nd stage patient into a dead body
damn her!

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post Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(samantha88 @ Sep 28 2009, 01:25 PM)
my dad just passed away last 2 months of lung cancer

when he found out, it was just 2nd stage...but later on spreaded to lymph nod
the whole battle lasted for 1 year plus

Been thru 2 radiotheraphy and 3 Chemo...but of no help at all
He did all these with the oncologist, Dr Christina (UMSC, now in Sunway)
Being my own opinion, i would say she's an unethical oncologist.
She's recommend expensive and not so useful chemo to my dad, and we believe in her all the while.
And if u look carefully in the bill, she charged consultation fee on days even when she did not turn up.

She even suggest my dad to have the Chemo straight after a radiotheraphy. Even the radiotheraphist himself said to my dad, the doctor must be crazy, it's a must for the patient to rest for 2 weeks before he proceed with any other theraphy.

So then we realise and transfer to another hospital. The other oncologist look at the medical record and told us the approach she took was all the way wrong. And since she already use such high dosage on my dad and so many times....there's no use of having any chemo anymore...

We were hoping to try other things like herbal remedy...but that time he was too weak and coughing blood continuously...
it's just too late to try anything...

how could she turn a 2nd stage patient into a dead body
damn her!
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i am sorry for your dad. i would like to advise, always have second opinion doctor from others organization. most of doctor today are money-oriented especially in the private hospital such as pantai hospital, sungai petani.

u should sue the dr. and its hospital for conducting unethical medical procedure. get help from the lawyer.

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QUOTE(prof.wafi @ Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM)
i am sorry for your dad.  i would like to advise, always have second opinion doctor from others organization. most of doctor today are money-oriented especially in the private hospital such as pantai hospital, sungai petani.

u should sue the dr. and its hospital for conducting unethical medical procedure. get help from the lawyer.
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Sueing the doctor can't bring back one person life. Thanks for sharing anyway.

My friend's grandfather was hospitalised because he fall down and bang his head. Sent to hospital and doctor said nothing serious. Didn't perform any scan on the head.

When I heard about it a few day later, I ask my friend to sent her grandfather to another hospital and perform a brain scan immediately. After that, the result came out and show that there is some blood clot in the brain and need to perform surgery. The doctor say, if this is not done the grandfather would have died.

I agreed, some doctors are really useless and have a don't care attitude.

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