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siutimtim
post May 2 2008, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 2 2008, 10:43 PM)
@candy_chl,
I'm actually surprised U had so much issues with HSBC.  It took them less than 5 working days to send it out; I put in an application last Thursday evening and received the card via courier this morning.
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wah,why your so fast.I wait 3 week already today only they call me verify.

Do they call you verify?Is the credit limit higher your other credit card or same?
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post May 2 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 2 2008, 11:10 PM)
Emmm...I seriously don't understand and don't bother about credit limit given by bank....what's the point?!Some of you will spend until that much in a month???
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yah.i buy one notebook finish already.that day hsbc one offer me 30% higher credit biggrin.gif
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post May 2 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ May 2 2008, 11:13 PM)
credit limit might not mean much, but let's put it this way

Dad issued a supp cc to his so that he can use it when there's emergency, but he's afraid that he will mis-use / lose it. so he put a RM 50 monthly limit on his kid's cc.

And another scenario, u saw a laptop on dell's website and u need to buy it, later u realise that ur cc limit is short of a few hundred ringgit and the online offer will only last a few more hours.

childish examples but oh well u get the picture tongue.gif.
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I am no clever but I also donnu what you talk about.Where got credit RM50 tongue.gif
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post May 3 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 2 2008, 11:20 PM)
Emmm....I get what u mean as I see it quite useful for emergency also bcoz all along I don't spend that much and yet bank giving me 40k credit limit.....
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wah.. rm40k credit? you put fix deposit in the bank? my only rm4k sad.gif
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post May 3 2008, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 3 2008, 11:43 AM)
yeah....not only FD...I used to pay the payment promptly and use their online facilities lots.
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RM40k is plat card is it? you got hsbc plat card?
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post May 4 2008, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 3 2008, 04:45 PM)
@vin_ann,
U could always verify through UOB's website; I'm sure it'll be posted on their website should they have such promotions/contest.  Well, I hold a UOB credit card but I haven't received such SMSes.  I'll check with sis if she received any when I see her later.
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uob got auto upgrade from gold to plat or classic to gold like citibank or hong leong? my friend eon bank also got auto upgrade gold to plat.
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post May 4 2008, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 4 2008, 12:37 AM)
@siutimtim,
Yes UOB does upgrading too like the rest of the other banks.  I was upgraded to the next tier about a year and a half ago.
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so uob classic plat not so high class also?I see requirement is 96k. How about alliance bank?they need 120k! or they will auto upgrade like other bank also?
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post May 4 2008, 11:09 PM

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Apply card and cancel after approve will make our record bad?Why never hear people say that.How they check record?My friend apply HLB card after approve cancel.Now apply after donno how many month after also can get de. hmm.gif


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post May 5 2008, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(lwb @ May 5 2008, 12:39 AM)
every transactions, including activation, suspension, and cancellation leave a record in a unified system.

there's a bunch of highly specialized analyst behind these system whose work is to analyse and provide their findings whenever a decision/qualification on loan/credit facilities are provided.

there's alot that tells of a person behavioral pattern when it comes to handling credit(or loan, should it use them interchangeably here).

it's therefore erroneous to think that i'm just referring the impact to credit card. what i referred to was your credit ability.
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Wah,got so high tech system?I only know bank refer CRIS or CTOS only.CRIS where got say you cancel card record?Any reference we can read more?


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:02 am
QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 4 2008, 11:20 PM)
my fren who is in CC sales told me that, in order for him to get the commission, the card must be active for 6 months. on 7th months u can cancel it.

he so crazy about his CC sales, keep asking me apply this card n that card.
ended, no card applied with him. haha

btw, u mean ur fren applying back HLB card? or other bank CC?
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6 month only get commision not possible la.their basic so low already you think no need eat?Last time I also go citibank credit card sales inteview they no say need wait so long.But basic offer RM1200 only.



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post May 5 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(hye @ May 5 2008, 01:26 AM)
Apparently you seems to know more than what most of us do. Rather than you give us information that require us to deciphering the hidden information beneath it, why don't you be more forthcoming with your knowledge? After all this is what the forum is all about.

Give us real life examples, etc. It's not rocket science to what you have mentioned but the way you have put it sounds like the guys who handles loan approval are "Men in Black". I'm sure that they do not want to be labeled that way. If what you said is true then all of us are affected - very little in society today lives without debt. What you just said ... refers to a risk management model - correctly me if I'm wrong (any actuarial science people out there), the model does not intends to punish you. Too tight and the banks might as well don't give out loans to anyone (Banks makes money from mainly giving out loans to people) and too loose then NPL will go up.  rclxub.gif

A lot of the folks here are well educated my friend, I'm sure we can understand what all this is all about. Again ... (no offense) but I detect a lot of hostility in your last few statements. What's the anger all about ?  unsure.gif If you don't agree with us, just be straight forward. Ambiguity is not going to help anyone here.  unsure.gif
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I agree.You say got system but we all no hear before.Maybe can share if what you say is true.
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post May 5 2008, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 5 2008, 01:05 PM)
@siutimtim,
Yes it's true that credit card sales people only earn their commission after the card's been activated for X months [how many months I do not know - this is to prevent 'fraud' cases] but if u want to help ur friends who's in credit card sales, u could always take a credit card and cancel it after 6 months *grins*

I mentioned previously I been thinking of canceling my HSBC card except I don't want the salesperson who attended to me to lose his sales commission so am thinking if I should just keep the card for a couple of months before I cancel it.  I've had the card since Jan '08 so it's just another 2 month wait.

@yks8845,
Yeah I had to explain that to me sister when she complained about being rejected by OCBC twice for that Titanium card.  And her only reason for wanting that card; Buy 1 Free 1 at Cineleisure!  She's 'blacklisted' OCBC for that *grins*  rclxub.gif
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If apply already no activate then I cancel.Do I need return card to them or they will charge me money or not?

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post May 5 2008, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 5 2008, 01:24 PM)
@siutimtim,
I actually don't know if we're charged if we want to close our account; i'd never closed a credit card account before - i'll let u know when I close this HSBC of mine except I probably make a lot of noise if I was charged as I'm just consolidating my expenses to another card HSBC issued.

Also, I don't think the bank will ask u to return the cancelled card; instead ask u to destroy it.

PS: I might even find it too troublesome to cancel the card and leave it at the end of the day *grins*.
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my friend apply citibank shell card only then automatic they give air asia card also.. my friend say they like want you to pay more annual fee and etc so he want to cancel all the citibank card not yet activate donno got charge or not?He say now give free also don want. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Dyong @ May 5 2008, 02:21 PM)
Whats the point of having so many credit cards when it's all on combined credit limit?

Profiteering perhaps.
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Correct.He say same thing also.Why need so many card from same bank if credit also same or you don need so many credit.
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post May 6 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ May 6 2008, 01:45 PM)
just checked wif my dad's cc statement...seems like Direct access master cards can get 2% petrol rebate at any petrol stations PLUS mesra points at petronas. im just wondering if this is the case, what's the use of launching cimb petronas co-brand cards.
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direct acess is to degree holder only.no degree can not apply.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 6 2008, 07:05 PM)
The blacklist is to make you difficult to get a loan from other banks, basically it would appear in your CRRIS report maintained at Bank Negara. After some time, it could become "Hard core " borrower. The bankers are concerned with these borrowers.

If you are into business, your company may not get a loan because of you. Other shareholders could be at odd with you. It could be years later and you would wander why the banks reject your loan.

Do not mean to frighten you.
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Haha,where got such thing.Blacklist because you cancel credit card? doh.gif maybe own bank record yes la
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post May 6 2008, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 6 2008, 09:48 PM)
When the annual fee is defaulted. It goes automatically to CCRIS's report.
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That is if you owe them money not because you threaten them to cancel card la.That is big different shakehead.gif

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