Hey Hwoarang, I wanna ask something about the S2409W.

It seems that I've been hearing that buying the S2409W from the Dell Malaysia website, the monitor doesn't come with a HDMI input? That is only reserved for foreign models instead?

I assume you bought it from Dell Malaysia though, just want to make sure.

Both BenQ V2400W and FP241VW aspect ratio is 16:10. Although both have 1:1 pixel mapping. So it does solves the stretching and cropping problems albeit with black borders.

16:9 monitors don't really need 1:1 pixel mapping though. Atleast so far not yet since even currently the budget priced Dell S2409W has a great 720p scaling capabilities with it.

Check out Hwoarang5's review: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum...pic.php?t=14311

Did you even read the review?

Infact, just looking at the specs tells you the obvious: 1920x1080 = 16:9 ratio.
Want more confirmation? Go to Dell's website page for the S2409W, promoted right on the page 16:9 aspect ratio.

Finally, one more last confirmation. I just seen the monitor a few minutes ago and yes, IT IS 16:9 aspect ratio.

Asus MK241H is better. Its 19x12 res is absolutely stunning, the bad thing however is that its scaler is really bad. So older PS3 games which are locked on 720p is bound to look like crap.

Just got news that BenQ's upcoming E2200/E2400HD and M2200/M2400HD WILL have 1:1 pixel mapping!! Old PS3 games like Uncharted, R&C: ToD, Heavenly Sword all didn't have 1080p support. Not a freaking problem anymore now, pure 720p unstretched and uncropped visuals is not a problem!

Price not confirmed yet but BenQ is looking at placing the E/M 2200HD at around RM900-RM1.1k where as the E/M2400HD will be around RM1.5k-1.7k.

Yes it will. The 1280x720 res will be letterboxed on the screen.

You can always turn off 1:1 pixel mapping if you want, the image will then just go full screen. Of course expect some stuff to be blur, but its hard to say for now. We may never know how good BenQ's E/M 2200/2400HD scalers are until its out. But judging from pass experience with BenQ monitors, they usually have some of the best scalers around.

They are also one of the very damn few LCD manufacturers which uses proper DCR on their panels. That means, their DCR actually freaking works unlike all those bullshit by Samsung and Viewsonic.

So, just 2 more weeks till the end of September. Lets see how good BenQ's monitors are. If they nail it right, its going to be awesome.


Its an S-PVS panel, what do you expect? You pay more than RM2.5k for it even. For that price you can easily get a 32" Sharp Aquos.

E and M series uses HDMI 1.3. No worries there.

And yes, since day one the PS3 has supported HDMI 1.3. There is a deep color option(or rather in the PS3's case, Full Color) under the display settings.

BenQ's E2200HD has just been released in India. After conversion, the price is about RM770 here which is a freaking sweet deal for a 22 incher. Of course, you'll need to add in tax, localising price and what not. But I'm ready to bet that it wouldn't be more than RM900.

S2409W is using HDMI 1.3 port btw.

Good choice either ways, because I'm sure the E2400HD will be more than RM1.1k mostly. If its lower, I'll go up to BenQ Malaysia and tell them that I'll rename my name to BenQ

Not sure if I'll pick one up yet. I'll need to test the unit first, so far what BenQ has said on the monitor is all but promising. It has 1:1 pixel mapping, or so they say. The great thing of course is that BenQ's scalers are one of the best on the market today(can even rival LG actually), so thats freaking nice to hear. I just want to see how much is it when it is released.

*EDIT*

A protoype of Dell's S2209W has been spotted!



Don't know if it'll be 1920x1080 res or not, but it most probably should. Since I am taking that this will be the direct competitor to BenQ's E2200HD.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 25 2008, 01:44 AM

Yes thats the difference.

Though E series is black color only with no webcam, and M is white only with webcam.
Other technical differences, they are the same. They use the same panel as well.

BTW, theres also the E900HD.
http://benq.com/products/LCD/?product=1375...=specifications

Though I don't know why this hasn't arrive in Malaysia yet as it has been released for well over a month now. The very nice thing about this monitor is that it stays on the tried and true standard of 720p(or 1366x768). Its nice then as all PS3 games has support for this resolution either ways(be it even if the games itself not being native 720p even).

Bad news of course, screen size being only 18.5", no HDMI input(which also means theres no support for 1.3, you can forget about Deep Color). The 5ms response time is also rather saddening, as thats only GTG. Other than that, it has a lousy built-in 2w speakers.....

Its ok for a bed-side monitor, but for gaming.... I don't think its that good. Either way, don't know how much this monitor is selling, if its RM600 or less then it'll be a worthwhile purchase. If not.... E2200HD is the way better option here.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 25 2008, 01:20 PM

I just heard from BenQ Malaysia that they are choosing now to either bring in the E or M series, not both as opposed to originally planned. Unless something changes, we will only see either E or M on sale then.

I want the E series more as I am very sure the M will definitely cost more because fo the webcam.

Most probably because they aren't sure which consumers will buy more. Probably if they bring in only one, then everyone is forced to buy that one only. If theres a big enough demand, they'll bring another one probably.

This isn't confirmed news though. They may just end up bringing limited quantities for both the E and M series and see which sells out faster then concentrate on the one which is more popular.

I'm not working in BenQ.


No price figure yet by estimation for E2200HD is RM800-900. E2400HD would be around RM1200-1400.

Since when was BenQ LCD monitors low quality. For the price you are paying, you are getting some of the most worthwhile TN panels. Infact, if you want to compare TN panels, BenQ is arguably the best now.

Don't go comparing them to S-IPS or MVA.

He's probably worried about not having 1:1 mapping on an outsource, like some PS3 games being locked in 720p only.

I tried to contact BenQ about the RM1199 pricing for the E2400HD, and I didn't get a response yet.

The M2200HD should be cheaper than the E2400HD however.

Do note that the M2400HD and E2200HD have also been released, don't know why Star didn't publish them up in the news.

All E/M series has intergrated speakers. Nothing to shout about really, I'd be suprise if they actually perform well.

Well if you don't mind paying more and don't mind black borders, the E248WFP is a more advanced monitor.
I'd still suggest the S2409W though.

BTW, an update on BenQ's E/M 2k series monitors.
Currently stock is extremely limited in Asia, theres no shipments of the monitors to Malaysia yet sadly. Price is still up in the air though.
I'll keep a look out for you guys on when it'll arrive, I am myself eagerly waiting for it too!

Depending on your budget really...

I'm using the Edifier E3100 and it has an audio input via a Y-splitter. I can of course directly use a headphone and connect it to my speaker to get the sound to my headphones as well.

RM699 from Startec, now already out of stock. That was only for 3 units....

Don't ask their cust. service, they are really slow in being updated. E2200HD is available in m'sia already, just that stock is extremely limited at the moment. Price is less than RM800 for sure however.

Rezuan congrats on your purchase of E2200HD. Can you kindly take some shots of 720p only games? Like Uncharted and Heavenly Sword.

OMG! Freaking sweet rezuan!! Thanks for the pic, now I can see that it absolutely scales with 720p resolution very well!

Any AA issues btw? I think you already know that playing on a 16:10 monitor will always make the image on the screen look very jaggy due to it being stretched. No issues of that sort I think atleast from the pictures you took, but just want to reconfirm with you.

Thanks a bunch bro!